total cough $61 billion smackers. the president wants it even for folks who do not make enough money to pay taxes and say what you will about extending the bush tax cuts for upper income my guest those at least those folks pay taxes and it has former godfather c.e.o. raising trouble. and at the white house we are waiting and it is possible that the negotiators will come out and talk to the press. there a microphone set up . and i fine it surprising if they pass a microphone but you never know. so, we could have a fly in the ointment. guest: the most point thing is to extend the tax cuts for everybody. and if the . neil: at all costs. guest: exactly the biggest danger of not passing the rates are the small business people that will be exacted who make