and i think that the circumstances in the country present the challenging candidate with all kinds of opportunities. mitt romney was on his game and he took advantage of those opportunities. the president is saddled with weak circumstances and therefore a weak case. and it is not surprising to me that he didn t argue it very well and the other thing is despite his reputation as being this world class orator, maybe he is with a set piece speech. there was not a lot of evidence in the past that he was ever a great debater. i don t think this thing was as big a shock as the president s supporters on the left feel. i think they all thought he was 10 feet tall. he is not 10 feet tall. never has been. chris: about the specific issue of the truth squadding, fact checking of romney, and they continue to press. i don t think it is a very accurate thing, the $5 trillion tax cut and talk about well in fact his plan would cut pell grants and aid to students. is that a way to go at it to say well
can justify raising taxes on the middle class who have been buried for the last four years. you know the phrase they always use. obama and biden want to raise taxes by a trillion. yes, we do in one regard. we want to let that trillion dollar tax cut expire so the middle class doesn t have to bear the burden much all of the money gone to the super wealthy. that is it not tax raise but fairness whether i came i don t know where you come i thought it was delaware. where i come from, it is it suck in the gut on taxes, joe. couple of thoughts. there was a movie with war know beauty and it was a movie bull worth. he told the unvarnished truth and spit it out the funniest movie.
can justify raising taxes on the middle class who have been buried for the last four years. you know the phrase they always use. obama and biden want to raise taxes by a trillion. yes, we do in one regard. we want to let that trillion dollar tax cut expire so the middle class doesn t have to bear the burden much all of the money gone to the super wealthy. that is it not tax raise but fairness whether i came i don t know where you come i thought it was delaware. where i come from, it is it suck in the gut on taxes, joe. couple of thoughts. there was a movie with war know beauty and it was a movie bull worth. he told the unvarnished truth and spit it out the funniest movie.
yes, we do in one regard. we want to let that trillion dollars tax cut expire so the middle class doesn t have to bear the burden of all of of that money going to the super wealthy. chris: does that help or hurt the president? i don t know. look, i think there is an interesting strategic decision that has to be made by team obama for the debate. if biden spends his time attacking paul ryan s plan, ryan will make it clear that is not the plan they are running on and if he spends a lot of his time attacking paul ryan and has a great night doing that, it won t make any difference. what i think biden has to consider doing s using his time to it attack mitt romney to take him down a peg after his performance in the first debate. that is the most urgent need it seems to me the obama campaign has s to undo some of what mitt romney achieved. chris: and wherey would you suggest that he go after romney?
sure that the three principles stay clear that he is going to give relief to the middle class. that he is going to make sure that we are more competitive, of course, creating jobs because so many small businesses file as individuals that. that higher income individuals will not be paying less and it is not going to impact the deficit. chris: you were about to talk about the president s vision. the president s vision for the country the best weigh you put forward a vision is a budget and he talked about at the debate his so-called $4 trillion plan to reduce the debt but you what that really s is this budget the budget that he put forth one of the most shocking things about the lack of leadership in washington from this president is that in three years not one member of either party would vote for his vision, his budget. why? it is the worst of both worlds. a massive tax increase that hurts job creators and brings us to $25 trillion in this debt. so that is the vision so we can expec