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welcome to the show. i am susan sikora. chris matthews worked here in fran at both the chronicle and the examiner. he also worked in the capitol in the 80s as a top aide to the speaker of the house, chip o'neill. he had to work with conservative president president ronald reagan. he had to work on an embattled economy. doesn't that sound familiar? well, so, why are we not making that difference now? chris dissects new dynamics in his book when politics worked. >> how can there be a time when two opposites knew how to pray together, represent the country together, do business and get things done, even they disagreed a lot. >> the subtitle of this book -- . >> you mean idea the book came out first and then the government shoutdown? [ laughing ] bill o'reilly is the burning bush. he talks to god. >> we won't even go there. we know he is alive. when politics work is your subtitle. >> i am not going to be partisan, but the problem right now is this 30 or 40 members of the republican caucus eventually saying no is the philosophy right now. we are not dealing with the other side. if it has obama's name on it, we want to say no, we want to kill it. tip and reagan were 180, but they believed in deadlines, they believeed in the law and played by the rules. in other words, a president gets elected. he or she in the future should have their bills voted on. there should not be foot dragging, filibusters and all the stuff that goes on now. when obama was elected the first night, they were meeting in washington with a plan how to bring them down. the number one goal was how to get rid of this guy? that should not be the goal. you should know how to debate him, make votes in congress and move on. >> it seems to me right now compromise, boys are these guys media trained, you hear the same words over and over. >> i was watching stewart last night where they repeat the exact words over and over. >> is compromise considered weakness? >> i think boehner had said compromise is a bad work. compromise doesn't mean agreement, but it means you want this, we want that, if you put it together with what we can do, you can figure out how to negotiate what you want. with tip and reagan, they didn't agree on everything, but they wanted to fix social security, so they had means testing, people with a lot of money, they had a social security benefits tax, delayed it three months and compromised on tax reform. tip and reagan gave us a 28% comp rate. imagine that. but the same tax for earned income is equity income which made the liberals happy. giving some of what you want and pushing onto the next challenge. today they stop every time and say we have been on this boat since 2011. this thing isn't new, we are not going to deal. this time they made a big mistake. they thought that obama would give up on his baby, just like the democrats for a while thought reagan would give up on his tax cuts. you don't give up on your baby. you fight for that. >> plus, the fact that affordable air is the law of the land right now. -- affordable care is the law of the land right now. wouldn't it be nice if they could have one bill and one issue. >> yes. ted cruz, this fire brand, came up with an idea we can stop the whole train if we go with health care so it was like if we come up with health care you are a bad guy, revolutionary. i have never seen anything like it. >> it seems like they are almost going back to the thing that is the common people need, the everyday working person needs. think about social security for a minute. most people on that and depending on that are older. there are others, but i am saying they are older. their employment opportunities at that point are very limited. >> let me tell you, ronald reagan was one of the critiques of social security. he wanted to make it optional in the 1960s but then they finally agreed medicare is here too stay. but now people will like health care. people that never had a chance to buy health insurance at a reasonable rate will like it. ted cruz says my fear is they will get addicted to this and they will not be able to get rid of this. his fear is that people will like it and he said it himself this year. >> it seems if you are old, sick and poor in this country you are kind of expendable. nobody say that is word in washington but i feel like a lot of people feel that. >> i don't think enough do. i think is company is okay. old people have a little clout themselves. the trouble is people who are benefiting from obama-care are not the very poor. they have medicaid. it is the guy who catches the bus in the morning, goes to a job that doesn't pay much and doesn't have enough money and the income they have left overfor payroll taxes to buy insurance. they put it off because they would rather eat, for example, pay the rent, or the kid's tuition, transportation to go to work. they put their cash to work to get to work in many cases. they say, let's help you stay healthy and go to the emergency room if you have to. that is the practice of people. it is two or three hours. so many people are there out of need. not emergency but need. they have to give those people an opportunity to get affordable health care or they won't get it. then hospitals have to pay in the end. >> so everybody ends up paying. >> the extraordinary decision by the republican leadership not to offer alternatives. they don't think they even need to make it look like they have alternatives. you say what do we do about the 40 million people sitting in emergency rooms -- they think all their votes come from the 47%, the people in the second half of the committee economy. they come from the first half of the economy. i am not sure that is true for all republicans. >> they work for us, don't they? >> they should. when we come back, we will find out what the present leaders with learn from tip and the gipper that worked for them, that made them able to talk. 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matthews. this is the third time you are here on the show. i like when you come back. his book is called tip and the gipper, when politics worked. i skimmed through in and got into the page turning big time. you talk about the president and o'neill and they got into a thing saying it is after 6. if i call you and i say it is after 6, we can talk. we tonight have to fight. >> the first time i heard about the 6 thing i heard it from reagan himself. i walked up to him and said mr. president, welcome to where we plot against you, he said oh, not after 6. we are friends after 6. so i then read it again in tip's memoirs. they didn't talk about it to other people but they had this sort of open line between the two of them and they did jump at the chance when the time came to cut the deal, so they were always able to do it. i can't explain exactly the president had a meeting this week with boehner, we don't know where this thing is going but it is probably going right up to the deadline. >> i understand it and i will be full disclosure here, i agree with the president, i don't think he should have caved necessarily in the affordable health care act because it is done, it is a deal. let me ask you a quick question. what do you think hillary would have done if she were in the white house right now? >> well, i think she would have more fear in the hearts of ore opponents. i think hillary will scare them. >> i would say they wouldn't want to mess with her. >> and the president said when he broke the wildcat strike he said if you don't come back to work you are never working for the government again as lodge as you live. they heard in from moscow. they thought reagan was for real and impressed with him, because of that, the one thing that said i am not jimmy carter. >> yes. >> i don't think they are afraid of obama on the hill. they should never have gone after his baby, health care. they should have known from day one that is one thing they will never deal on unless you want it to explode. terrible credit markets, everything, interest rates flying through the roof because it in in the end will kill obama. he probably figured win-win. that is the scary thing, not caring if the other side fails. >> what weather reagan first got to washington -- when reagan got to washington with nancy, they smogged. she went and she went to these things and he went to these things. that gives you a little good will in the bank when do you something. >> yes, there is no program, just to get together. all these guys sitting around a table together. they come back from years ago, even if they are defeated, they come back and have this gem dinner with everybody else. i go to my first one and i walk in the room and there is ronald reagan, he showed up with bush. he says -- he is there shaking hands with every democrat in the room. they were lining town get their picture taken with him. not for the newspapers or tv. it was a closed event. reagan says in his diary, went to the gem dinner, stopped by, carter never went. he was so proud of the fact he went as a lobbiest and knew how to do it. >> obama would never go to a gem dinner. >> he is smart. he has that good looking factor. reagan had it, and the difference in how the speaker felt a little inhibited about it, he thought he was not media genic. but here is reagan who is like a movie star. >> yes. and tip would say in his memoir that is reagan was the bestplasm speak inner history if he had a script. -- platform speaker in history if he had a script. he called up the white house and said who wrote the speech and called up peggy newman and crated him on the speech. to the end reagan was the main speaker at tip's retirement party. they had drinks together, birthdays and toasts. >> one thing at a time. i have to ask you this because there are so many other things i would like to talk about. the women. do you think if we had more women in congress things may be a little difference. the book years ago was 9 and counting, when we had 9 women in the senate. women moving back and forth on either side of the table arguing and at the end where are we going for dinner, how are your kids and all that. >> they are much more collegiatal then member. there are a lot of theories about this. california had two women senators for a long time. washington state, the east coast, maine, new york. the whole thing it is a fact women do better in congress. it is not just that people are liberal but the whole nature of the industries. >> can you give me a quick one liner. >> the cowboy will be ahead of the curve in women's rolls. they just will be. >> but if you could get them back from heaven or the dead or whatever, chip o'neill, what would he tell boehner right now and what would reagan tell obama right now. >> he would tell him to lay off health care. you are not getting anywhere and tell your troops find another opportunity. push on something that reduces the debt or push on something that helps business. corporate tax cuts or some kind of reform, title reform generally. it is too late this coming week to try to get something done legislatively. make a commitment. >> what would reagan tell obama. >> make a commitment. don't buckle on health care. >> maybe we should throw a poker game on friday night. >> you have to want to deal. those guys did. reagan is a little kept cal, but listen. >> there is a lot of great stuff in here including the fellow cop that said to you, you asked why does the little guy believe in this country. >> because it is all he's got. >> yes. >> rich people with wives, money and big houses, they have a lot going for them. but the guy that doesn't have much will always have the flag. it is so vital we have to understand that. >> chris matthews i hope you will always come back to this table. tip and the gipper -- it is good reading. i have to say. thank you so much. ,,,,,,,,,, . welcome back. you are seeing a lot of pink ribbons and fundraisers all in the quest for a cure for breast cancer. we have dr. mindy goldman here, with a special interest in women with breast cancer. she has a fund, a nonprofit group helping women with breast cancer access complimentary treatments to their medical care. dr. goldman, welcome back. >> thank you. it is nice to be here. >> every year you are in pink today. it is october. what is new since last year? >> i think there are so many things new in breast cancer. one of the things is for people diagnosed now compared to 15 or 20 years ago. there are so many more options. the days are long gone where we would say you have stage 1, you have stage 2, you have stage 3 breast cancer and you are treated like this. there is much more of a push to do individualization of care and look at the biology of someone's tumor to help decide what is the appropriate care for them. so, giving chemotherapy to people who really need it, but maybe having chemotherapy be avoided for people that don't need it. so, for example in the past, people who had a large tumor, 4-centimeters or more almost always got chemical therapy. now if the biology about their tumor suggests it is low growing and may not have a high occurrence rate, those people will not benefit from chemotherapy and may not need it. so there is more of a push to look at the individual, the features of the tumor and decide how we should be treating them. i think it is really exciting. >> has the profile for those at highest risk change? >> i think we are learning more about who is at highest risk. we are looking at factors associated with risk. we have always known about family history and people who have had prior biopsy that is show atypical change. there is more and more research looking at breast density. breast density is now thought to be a risk factor for breast cancer. i think what is changing is trying to say for those people that have factor that is suggest they are at increased risk, maybe they should be follows differently. one of the things very exciting is we have a very large study at ucsf that involves all of the five uc medical centers throughout the state called the athena breast health network. that is a program bringing together researchers and clinicians to help us find innovative ways to look at prevention, screening and treatment. it is a very exciting study. i think it will be what the framingham study was for heart disease, i think we will be for breast cancer. >> okay. we hear things about watching your weight and keeping the exercise up and all of that. we hear conflicting things about alcohol. it seems one day you should drink red wine. the next day you should not touch alcohol. so, what is the story, what do we do? >> well, i think it depends on what you are looking at. if you are talking about breast cancer, there is increasing data that says alcohol is not a good thing. >> at all? >> probably in limited amounts alcohol may be okay, but there was data accomplished just last december that -- published just last december that showed for women that had only three to four weeks a week it could increase their risk of getting specifically positive hormone breast cancer, the most common type of breast cancer. >> i heard three a week. is that too much? it is estrogen given? >> for women would have had breast cancer, we know there is a lower risk occurrence for those that drink less. our best guidance is say limit alcohol. the you had drink everyday, cut back to two or three time as week. everything in moderation. if you look at the number one cause of death, heart disease, but at least one glass of red wine is good for your heart. >> right. talk about the two celebrity that is have been in the news with this repeatedly and i am concerned with what the affect is. angelina jolie and robin roberts. angelina jolie did the double mastectomy with reconstruction, but what is your opinion on that and have you seen more women walking that because of the angelina affect? >> sure. first of all, if you look at breast cancer, 90% of breast cancer just happens. about 10% to 15% of breast cancer is something that may run in the family. of that 10% is actually due to known genetic mutations, the most common being mutations in the brca genes which is what angelina jolie had. i think what she did was wonderful for two reasons. one is i think it raised awareness that if you have a family history that is suggestive of possibly carrying one of these genetic mutations, go in and talk to your doctors about what are your options because those people have different screening and prevention options compared to the general population. so she raised awareness about that so hopefully more people are going in to talk to their doctors. the other big thing when, someone like a sex symbol like that can have their breasts removed and still be a sex symbol, i think it shows people you can do thing that is save your life and still be feminine. >> and robin roberts had a preleukemia condition where she had to have a bone marrow transplant after key therapy. was the chemotherapy the cause of that or are they getting it after? >> she had a disorder that can occur after chemotherapy and radiation. it is still very, very uncommon. but i think anyone that has gotten chemotherapy or radiation will be followed closely by their doctors. that type of disorder is done with blood tests and done as part of follow-up. >> i know you do a lot with the fund, the nonprofit dedicated to help women use complimentary instead of traditional medicine, complimentary alongside, right? >> yes. it is set up in honor of my closest friend who dayed. we have been around for 13 years. we give money to breast cancer patients to use for any sort of complimentary care to improve quality of life. >> okay. and the fund bike ride will take place this saturday, october october 19th. for more information you can go to their website. you can learn more about dr. goldman and women's health programs on their website, as well. the 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Transcripts For KBCW Bay Area Focus With Susan Sikora 20121007

welcome to bay area focus. i'm susan sykora. october is breast cancer awareness month. a study reveals key facts, facts that can lead to more precise breast cancer treatments. to explain, we welcome back dr. mindy goldman. she's director of the women's cancer care program at ucsf and has a special interest in women with breast cancer as well as alternative therapies for menopausal symptoms. the program means the long-term needs of breast cancer patients. welcome back. good to have you here. >> thank you so much. >> and this now study was out and i don't think that it's a month old, i guess, in terms of the results and the nature? >> yes. >> and show had a piece recently, saying the news is electrifying the field. >> sure. >> and is it that exciting and why? >> i think it's exciting and we're treating the breast cancer the same for years in terms of dividing it up into stage 1, stage two, stage three, stage four and depending on the size of the tumor, you had standard treatments of timeo -- chemo therapy and hormonal therapies to block the production of estrogen. what this study is showing is that not all breast cancers are the same and we should be doing more to individualize the therapy. . >> in other words, they tell you why stage one instead of stage four? >> not necessarily the different stage but the interest features of someone's tumor. >> uh-huh. >> and so can you target therapy individually. not just treating someone based on the stage of the tumor but based on the features about their tumor. >> uh. >> and it turns out that east breast cancer tumor has genes that code for certain proteins that are expressed on the surface of the breast tumor. >> you said genes. i'm wondering. we have heard is there a history of breast cancer in your family? you answer it on every questionary i am through it and i am thinking no, whatever. and what they say to you is don't let that stop you from getting the regular mammograms and so forth. and that, is any of that impacted by what we know in from the study? >> and that is different in terms of there are joins that people carry that increase the risk of breast cancer and that is a small% of breast cancers and that might be due to known genetic mutations in people's jeeps. most people have a strong family history of breast cancer and you often times see ovarian cancer in the family and what this study was about is looking at the breast cancer tumor itself. looking at the pattern of proteins expressed, what is express on the surface of the tumor to allow us to target new treatments in a biologic fashion targeting them specifically for the type of breast cancer someone has. >> they evened, i think in the study, work -- correct me if i'm wrong, that some of the cancers might be similar to something look's lung cancer or other kinds of cancers. what they may give you for lung cancer, they can give you for breast cancer? >> sure. what they were tacking about is one of the four types that they looked sat called triple negative cancer which, is not sensitive to hormones or estrogen, progesterone or another marker called her2mill. and they tend to be aggressive. what they're finding, what they found in the study is that behave not like the typical breast cancer but like ovarian cancer and that may lead towards looking at treatments that we typically use for ovarian cancer that might be useful to this specific type of breast cancer and that is targeting the individual and targeting the treatment towards the type of breast cancer they have and not just saying breast cancer. >> you said it may and that is the magic word i am hearing. says azsomeone who is a survivor other and women who are diagnosed soon or now, and you tend to wonder when will this technology, this information be implemented so that i can take advantage of it? >> yeah, i think that this leads to many areas to be researched. and if you look at the triple negative tumors, i think that soon we may see breast cancer physicians, oncologies try using treatments that are typically used for ovarian cancer and realize that this is still preliminary and may take awhile before -- . >> yeah. >> we learn about this and this is still very -- . >> soon and awhile -- yo yeah. >> in the medical community and think that, and think next weekend, you would probably think, what a couple of years? >> and that might be southeastern. i think breast cancer research is happening rapidly and the findings get translated into clinical care at a fast rate and this is exciting. and it helps us understand more about how we should be treating people better, and i think that we'll so it fairly soon. >> will we have an impact on people coming through breast cancer who are survivors and treated, lumpectomies, mastectomies, or any of the above cocktail and are hoping that that will come back. >> sure, as we learn about individual tumors, we learn about how to best treat them and there is still research ongoing and helping us to understand how long should we be treating hormoneally treated breast cancer sent it five or 10 years? and research may help us understand someone's individual time and are -- tumor and risk. >> we'll go through who should do what and when and how often and there is a glimmer of light and hope and something called 3d. there is a 2d and that is 2d, all right? what is that, left and right? front and back in. >> and. >> it allows physicians or majoritiographers to look in a 3d physician and -- fashion. >> there is talk about an mri and can you do that, too, where you lie down on the machine and yes? >> right. >> mris are done in certain situations. it's a very, very sensitive technique for detecting small invasive breast cancers. one of the problems is that it has -- it's so sensitive that it has a high false positive rate. >> uh. >> and that is not and shouldn't be used for all women but high risk for breast cancer and who may carry one of the jeep mutation. >> and you get more people called back for recreeping? >> right. things that make them anxious, nervous, painful tests, biopsies that turn out not to be necessary and may cause scarring to make examsence isible. >> yes. >> and the 3d is early. >> uh-huh. >> and has been fda approved and one of the problems is that it also seems to have a higher false positive rate. >> and when might we see it in san francisco? >> it's hard to say. and i think one of the years where 3d is useful is for younger women who have dense breasts and so the studies that have looked at that are suggesting that 3d mammograms, which, again, look at the breast from different dimensions and have a machine that goes over the women's breast and to give a better picture of the breast is useful, particularly in women who are younger with dense breasts. >> huh. >> and and i think there needs to be more research looking at this before it's adopted widespread and as a basic screening tool. >> okay. we're going to take a break and come back and have more including the standard of treatment right now and what you should be doing. can you prevent breast cancer and what you should be doing at what age. when we return. . >> welcome back. we're talking with mindy goldson and in addition to her practice, she has the fund which provides women with breast cancer. she would like us to say not alternative but complimentary options to improve the quality of life and we'll talk about that in a second. first of all, just a couple of quickies here. we heard in just about every conversation that i have had in this show about breast cancer with any doctor and that is always the peak that -- and women get this more so. is that still true and do we have an inkling as to why or is that still a mystery? >> that is not clear and there is some hypothesis raised and one is alcohol. and would have there been more and more studies suggesting that alcohol use, and particularly higher levels of alcohol. -- >> marin county women are drinking to much, huh? >> and close to napa. >> huh. >> and why wouldn't it be that they get it more? >> that is a good question. >> we see it in certainly socioeconomic groups, higher educated and who don't have children or delay child bearing and turns out that marin has a higher preponderance of women who fit into that category. >> uh. >> and the other factor might be wine, might be one issue and one of the other factors might be and they have their ovaries out, they may go on estrogen to alleviate menopausal symptoms. >> uh-huh. >> and if they don't and decide to go on hormone replacement therapy to alleviate menopausal symptoms, they need to take a combination of estrogen and progesterone -- . >> not to send it into next week? >> and that is used to protect the uterus from routian cancer. >> huh. >> you don't have one, you don't need it. >> and what if you have it out and didn't have the ovaries out? >> you may need treatments and the symptoms are severe. when you are looking at hormone replacement therapy, times -- seems like it may have more negative effects on the breast and one of the things that is common in marin is fewer women have hysterectomies and that might be part of it. fewer women having hick the rest -- hysterectomies and if they need hormones, they need the progestin and maybe the proximity and napa and more alcohol, other factors that we don't know. >> okay. >> and treatments now. and treatments now. i assume chemotherapy is one done. lumpectomy or mastectomy. the women are having mastectomies and i had a cousin who elected to have the double mastectomy. >> sure. >> and i had a lumpectomy. >> yeah. >> and she did it for, i guess, other reasons and how do you feel about women doing this? >> or goal is to guide people about outcomes and talk toem about outcomes of lumpectomy versus mastectomy and lumpectomy has similar outcomes and a big thing is patient choice. >> uh-huh. >> and patients have to decide what is right for them. there are many people that may decide based on a family history and their desires, they want a double lumpectomy, or mastectomy. radiation, hormonal therapies, herceptin. i think some of the exciting things that are going in treatment really come from that article what, it talked about and we're doing more individualization of therapy, figuring out who needs it and who doesn't so we don't overtreat people who may not have an aggressive tumor and be a higher risk of occurrence. >> okay, you have that up. >> yes. >> and that is a group that is dedicated to comp limitary options such as? >> reporter: what we do, is this is set up 12 years ago. her hawaiian name is ewilani and she had an aggressive tumor and found while going through treatment, if she did complementary care like chinese herbs, it gave her the energy to work out in the gym. and in the end, acupuncture and energy work alleviated the discomfort and after she passed away, a group of us got together and formed the fund in her memory and provide funding specifically for complimentary care to improve call the -- quality of life of women going through breast cancer treatment. >> huh. >> and we're proud that after this year, we have given away 200,000 i can promote -- . >> and this is october 20th. >> uh. >> and we do a bikeathon in the santa cruz area and that is along the coast, inland and along watsonville and we have a 25, 45, and 65-mile opposition and. >> and that is on the screen. >> we're looking for ankles, too. >> okay, sounds good and that is a great time of the year and if you're in need or someone who does, at ualanifund.org. and we go want get to the mastectomies and win and pretty much we know, don't we? >> and -- . >> whatem every year? >> forty to 50. >> check with your doctor and go in. when in doubt, ask and do it. it doesn't pay. dr. mindy goldman, thank you for being here. stay with us, more ahead. . welcome back. domestic violence leads a life of fear and makes every day a nightmare. 35 years ago,la casade las madres offered help to victims by becoming california's first and the nation's second shelter dedicated to women and children escaping a dodomestic violence and meet cathy black. her book is her story of dealing with abusive relationships and overcoming low self-e steve. how prevalent or common is domestic abuse in the bay area? >> 75% of the population -- three or four of us know someone who is a victim or one in three women. >> and when you say domestic violence or abuse of relationship. >> uh-huh. >> a lot of people think, oh, that must mean getting hit, i'm getting smacked around physical. >> right. >> and do you broaden that definition? >> absolutely. it's intimidation, environmental, spiritual, economic -- very so -- there are so many different -- verbal abuse, psychological abuse -- it comes in many forms. >> uh-huh. >> you think people in this situation if they're not getting visually beaten. >> uh-huh. >> dismess all of the other definitions because that is a nice way to deny it's happening to them? >> right. i think the more education that is done, the more people are reaching out to explore what their options are and they hearing these two are acts of family violence or relationship violence and might be calling to explore what their options are and we say you don't have to leave your home to come to hours. we want to encourage victims. >> and that is veriesome. and we heard that before and i am surprised it continues and girls today, they're savvier and more performed and have that technology. they're in connection and communication. why is this happening? >> i think that, you know, so much of it is about what wering what the healthy relationships are. if you're in a home where domestic violence is happening, you might think that is the norm. we're beginning to do a better job at a very young age. there are great programs in the school systems and stawing to kids about building healthy relationships. that is critical. again, one in four teens experience some sort of intimate dating violence and in their lifetime also. >> uh-huh. >> and you have written a book about this and work with women who are in these situations? >> yes. >> okay, before we get to the work you do, tell me -- tell me a little bit about your sister story? what happened, briefly if can you. >> to make a long story short, i remember being at the end of a barrel of a gun. >> oh. and having my boyfriend at the time saying nobody will love you as much as i do. >> and he was pointing it at you? >> andy remember thinking the truth and that i hit the left bottom. >> did you know the relationship, did anything in your gut say this is not the thing? >> uh-huh. >> is that common? >> you would wonder, why would you get into a situation where with a person who is abusive? >> and i think it's common. we're tapping from ways to reach individuals and have this great 35 lessons and we didn't have the kind of social media access we have to -- had to use in young women and women in relationships in the past there is a changing world. i think there is hope getting the red flags out there and talking about the situations so that other people don't end up in the same situation as anita. >> when they first started, and people brought it into the ocean, and she was afraid to leave, had has any of that changed? what are you hearing when you work with them? >> i am hearing more and more the negligencor emotional abuse. >> and what would be financial abuse in. >> no access to the financial resources that is not uncommon for us to see the victims come in who don't have a access to their checking account. and going into an account and they have no way to access it. >> and partnership controls. >> you want money for groceries, you ask me. and whatever -- . >> okay. >> right. >> and going to the grocery store with that and so much so that they aren't allowed to shop on their own. >> and a couple -- opened 24/7. >> yes. >> year round. >> and you offer help to women who were not in crisis. if a woman calls you and how soon can you get her to years in danger to what you would give her? >> immediately. >> and that is 24/7, and we, obviously, if it's dangerous, we say hang up and call 911. >> yes. >> and the alternative is we transport someone to a place immediately. >> and that is confiddennual. >> and that is difficult. >> part of that is when a victim gets to us and susound -- surrounded by other individuals in the same situation as they are and realize they not alone. >> uh-huh. >> they don't want to do anything that is jeopardizing someone else. >> does this cost anyone anything? >> no. >> 100% free. >> and the funding is from? >> and that is 50/50 public and private. so, we have some public grants and raise a lot of money presently. >> i wish we had more time. but thank you. her book is a woman's gurney from self-loathe to self-love. it happens with low self, steve. for more information aboutla casade las madres, go tolacasa.org and there are phone numbers on the screen. you will notice one there,en to crisis. the line is on the screen as l. for more information about anita ross' workshop for adults, go to her website at anitaross.net. and we want to let you know there is a few weeks left at the yerba bueno gardens festival. we leave you now with some performers. thank you for watching.