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The very next step either tomorrow or friday is were going into court to enforce -- to ask for the grand jury material and to enforce the subpoena against mr. mcgahn. and thats particularly important because the excuses, and i wont call them reasons, the excuses that the white house gives for mcgahn not testifying, the nonsense about absolute immunity, et cetera, are the same excuses for all the other fact witnesses. and if we break that, well break the logjam. >> its not clear whether muellers ...

Consequential day of testimony in recent years. in your view what was today really? >> well, theres one unassailable truth, which is that donald trump engaged in a massive cover-up to hide the fact that his campaign knowingly received support from the russian federation. just that one sentence, brian, as powerful, as alarming, as arresting as it was, never came out of the mouth of the key witness, bob mueller, today. instead he gave one word, staccato, sometimes monosyllabic answers. he wanted t...