Hes held all the command billets from lieutenant all the way up through Division Commander and the like and later of course he was the first commander of the Africa Command you talk to us about today. Now hes the president and coo of a very Interesting Company in the corporate world and we were chatting a little bit earlier before this thing started and i said you know, some of the leadership things that you picked up in the military are apropos in the commercial world as well because still, its all done by people and we need to learn to take care of them and he agreed to that. We were also chatting before, he was born, i graduated from high school in 1945 and at 17 and i play football and the light and my best friend was from Manasquan High School across the river and they were our traditional rivals and he and i had grown up, known each other a long time and later he went to the same school, morgan state only he was a freshman there in 1946 and thats back when we had back good athlet