an emotionally charged news conference in charlottesville, virginia wrapped up not too long ago. the police chief there publicly naming for the first time their person of interest in the disappearance of a university virginia student. i'm harris faulkner, this is the fox report. there has been a ripple of fear across a quiet college town where 18-year-old hanna graham vanished. students sticking together walking in pairs at night and so on. you may not know this, but at least three other young women have vanished in that same area in the past five years, although police say they do not think hanna graham's case is linked to any of those. more than 1,000 volunteers have gone out this weekend looking
for hanna graham and now police have issued an arrest warrant for jesse matthews. matthew was actually at the police station at one point in charlottesville but left after asking for an attorney. >> i have made no mistake about it, we want to talk to jesse matthew. we want to talk to him. we want to talk about his interactions with this sweet young girl that we can't find. >> so he left that police station driving erratically, that charge is out on him. leland vitter is out in charlottesville tonight, and lee land, this is pretty bizarre, take us through it. >> reporter: obviously a lot of us haven't heard about a case like this, matthew shows up, he knows he's been under suspicion for the past 48 hours and all of a sudden sped off. we also learned about that interaction with police where he
asked for a lawyer, there were federal and state investigators who had him under surveillance. he was driving so fast, according to police they had to give up the trail because they were worried about other people on the road. the past 48 hours, we have also learned a lot more about matthew, including what kind of car he had, and this is pictures of the car the police seized, they say they have searched it for evidence, that evidence is at the crime lab right now and they have released pictures to the public saying they want to talk to anyone who saw that car over the past week in the area of charlottesville to figure out what matthew may have been doing in that car. remember, police have also searched matthew's house and despite taking a lot of evidence out of there, say they still don't have enough evidence to charge him with a crime in connection with hanna's disappearance. >> i believe that jesse matthew was the last person she was seen with before she vanished off the fates of the earth. let me say that again. i believe jesse matthew was the
last person she was seen with before she vanished off the face of the earth. >> and this is the surveillance video of jesse matthew, a big guy, 270 pounds, with dreadlocks, he walked up to hanna, about where i am standing right now, put his arm around her, walked her a block and a half to a local winery got 1:30 saturday morning and had a drink with her and at that point, they say, the trail goes cold. >> outside of that police chief who obviously was very emotional during that news conference. her parents showed up, leland? >> reporter: they sounded desperate as anyone would be to try and find their little girl. they talked about 18-year-old hanna graham, sophomore at the university of virginia, a nursing student they say gave up her summer break to go and help rebuild houses and they say it's more than just her angelic smile
that's leading so many to be concerned about where she is. >> it's every parent's worst nightmare. i'm certain that everybody in this room and those watching knows that what happened to hanna could happen to their child. >> and a little bit over 1,000 people spent their weekend searching for hanna all over, we saw them walking down railroad tracks, ravines, into ditches, all over the place trying to find her. and a lot of girls here on campus said, look, i walk home at night, this could have very easily have been me and you really get a sense here on the streets of charlottesville, a charming innocent college town that things have changed here and there is a loss of that college innocence that so many feel across the country. >> and a lot of those women are reminded they have gone through this at that campus before, in
separate cases. leland vitter, thank you very much. the search leading crews through wooded areas in the pocono mountains. police have recovered from items they believe were abandoned or possibly this man tried to hide, including ammunition and a rifle. verlts say eric freen -- they say he shot and killed one trooper, wounded another. >> reporter: the pennsylvania state police say they believe that 31-year-old eric free is 450id hiding out in this area, very close to where he lived with his parents, but they say the survivalist is very close to being caught. >> we believe we are closing in on him. up until now his advantage has been that he knows his backyard.
the area he once felt safe in. we are pushing him hard, he is no longer safe and i am confident that he will be apprehended. >> the search area is now about 200 to 250 square miles, it's concentrated on the borders between monroe and pike counties. police say hundreds of tips including reports of possibly sightings of freen have narrowed the search area. earlier today we saw police officers with a blood houngd hound, leaving frñssñ home that's obviously there to pick up freen's scent. and also items that were abandoned by freen, including some ak-57 style weapons they say freen had on him at the time of the shooting last friday. police reiterated they have not exchanged any gun fire with freen and he has not made any
contact with his parents. harris? >> you know what? i've been reading about how well planned they think this attack was. >> reporter: yeah, police say they believe freen has been planning this for months, maybe even years, they have spoken to people who have claimed that freen had conversations, but they didn't think he would act on attacking law officers. he had a very specific grudge against pennsylvania state troopers. they want people to remain vigilant, keep their lights on outside. this is a very wooded area, remain vigilant, but understand they don't think there's a real risk against the general public because they believe he's after the state police. they also said that freen surveyed the blooming grove barracks in the days or weeks in the time before the attack last friday. nerves are still on edge but they are as confident as ever they are going to get this guy.
now to the big international story breaking wide open on this sunday, fighting between rebels backed by iran and the u.s.-backed government in yemen. although now we're learning of a possible peace agreement signing in all of this. and this follows months of violence which spread into the capital city tonight. in fact the u.s. has spent years trying to counter the terror threat there. it was somewhat of a hornet's nest for terrorists there. the campaign against al qaeda in yemen began in 2002. since then we have carried out morn 100 air strikes killing 500 militants. >> reporter: harris, after several days of violence, the yemeni government and shiite rebels have reportedly signed a deal to end the fighting. the fighting very much raged on between sunni rebels and many golf forces. the battle centers around the military base in the country's
capital. that's where u thousands of people have fled their homes and an estimated 140 fighters have been killed though that number is likely to be even higher. all of this as yemen's prime minister resigned today amid the chaos, basically saying he wanted to step out of the way to make it easier for the u.n. brokered deal to be signed between shiite factions and the sunni majority government. the u.n. representative said the deal, quote, will lay the foundation for national partnership and for security and stability in the country. but as we know, harris, yemen as volatile and unstable history, being a base for al qaeda and islamic militants. harris? >> yeah, we only hope that peace deal can hold. yemen a terrorist hot spot in the world. let's bring in steven yates to talk about all this.
former deputy assistant for national security affairs for vice president dick cheney. stephen always good to have you. a lot to get to here. it seems like the middle east has always been, well, a dangerous mess. is it worse now? >> i do, harris, believe it is getting somewhat worse. we have the spread of instability and radicalism getting more broad based and the news out of yemen is cautionary i think on two fronts. one it reminds us that our narrow focus on iraq and isis is not sufficient in terms of looking at the threat that we face across the region. the other area is that these measures that have been used against yemen over the years are the building blocks that the president plans to use against iraq and syria. if we ski yemen falling back into political disarray, is that a foreshadowing of where iraq and syria will go even after our intervention. >> talk to me about how yemen
fits in in all of this, i mentioned that this government is u.s.-backed and fighting on the other side, technically i guess you could say iran. >> right, well, iran has been a very active force in the region, supporting islamist groups in multiple countries, it's been a part of basically a sectarian civil war, wherever fighting has broken out. yemen in particular has been a problem because of it's strategic low kracated on the w ways. but it's been -- underwear bomber and the printer cartridge attempt at terrorism here. so yemen has been a training ground and a hot bed of instability for some time. and these intelligence cooperative measures and drone strikes limited moves haven't really moved the needle fundamentally there. >> you said the focus on isis has not been sufficient.
why do you think that is and how do we know that for sure? >> i look at two contrasting styles of presidential leadership. when president bush looked at the world after 9/11, he defined a global enemy a threat, he developed broad based strategy for all of our policies around the world and then he delegated those strategies to regional experts and his cabinet. president obama hasn't really provided that kind of strategic definition of an enemy or a strategy. e> have isolated strategies for isolated developments. so what we're doing in isis in iraq, isn't necessarily tied to a broader regional upheaval which we have all witnessed since the arab spring. >> our eye on a group, and this is a report that there may be a group in syria that may pose a bigger threat than isis. your quick thoughts on this?
>> it is a group that has had very little focus and discussion. the civil war has been going on for a very long time. it's been a magnet of many different kind of foreign fighters. isis is the one we focus on white hot, and justifiably so, but it's not the only group and the only actor. this is a very complicated region and air strikes on isis are definitely not going to deal with these other groups. >> they have taken more than land, they have taken a couple of american lives very publicly. we're now learning more about this weekend's alarming security incident in our nation's capital. an intruder, seen jumping a fence, running through the doors of the white house and we know more now. and crews trying to knock down an inferno that shows no sign of slowing down. stay close. breathe through you. suddenly you're a mouthbreather. well, put on a breathe right strip and instantly open your nose up to 38% more than cold medicines alone.
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the u.s. is trying to built that broad coalition to destroy isis. more countries are now pledging support, although she refused to name them or detail hoich support those countries would actually provide. but she didgvy reiterate presid obama's pledge that there would be no boots on the ground. speaking taking in albania, his holiness saying, quote, to kill in the name of god is a grave sack rill ledge. a man seeking to enter the white house -- the cell phone video shows that person running across the north lawn. this was friday night. police say he had a knife, and made it all the way inside.
inside, before security eventually stopped him. they have identified the suspect as 42-year-old omar gonzalez, a decorated iraq war veteran who was hired because of his disability. >> federal documents show omar gonzalez has no prior convictions or arrest warrants, he was not under the influence at the time of the incident on friday. we also know he served more than a decade in the u.s. military, including three tours of duty in iraq, even receiving a medal for his service before requiring back in 2012. gonzalez is scheduled for -- while carrying a deadly or dangerous weapon which does carry a punishment of up to 10 years in prison. he was carrying a 3 1/2 inch serrated bralade when he entere an unlocked door in the white house.
>> as i understand it, this would be the first time that someone gained access into the white house in this way. >> gonzalez should not have made it to the north doors, an alarm system should have sent warnings to guards on site. lawmakers say they're going to hold hearings on the breach and some say the breach was easily prehaven preventab preventable. >> the reason he wasn't brought down because it was dpeemed he didn't have a weapon. so this demands a full investigation. >> i can tell you the fbi is laughing at this and really horrified at this incident, laughing at the secret service cover-up about what happened and that cover-up is secret service saying that the agents, the informant officers exercised admirable restraint. >> the secret service immediately ordering a comprehensive review, in the meantime, officer patrols and surveillance los angeles
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nearly three dozen buildings and at this hour we're told it's threatening thousands more. crews are showing up all the way from alaska to florida to help put this out. the fire is over 30 square miles and is only 10% contained. meanwhile the mana accused of starting the fire has been charged with arson. someone used the first day of school to carry out a vicious plot. it's our top story as we go around the world in 80 seconds. >> reporter: egypt, a roadside bomb went off killing two police officers and injuring people outside the government's foreign ministry building in cairo. nearby schools were evacuated on the first day and while no one has claimed responsibility, it's worth noting egypt will face is violent campaign over removal of
the muslim brotherhood backed president. kenya, a nation pausing to remember, 6 people killed when terrorists stormed the west gate mall a year ago. relatives read the names of the victims as survivors lit candles. al sabab violence. russia. an inferno as firefighters try to tackle a massive fire in a 25-story apartment building. hundreds of people ran for their lives as the fire spread from floor to floor. flaming debris rained down setting cars on fire on the streets. germany, an armed gang tried to cash in on the phoenix own frenzy by robbing a security guard who was carrying a huge box of cash out of the nation's largest apple store. the getaway car was found on fire about a mile away, but so far no arrests. that's a wrap on this fox trip around the world in 80 seconds.
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action to combat climate change. the march in countriesaround the world comes two days before the start of a special u.n. summit on climate change. turkey, 700 refugees have streamed across the border and that number could be as high as 100,000 all together as families are fleeing the years old civil war. turkey is providing humanitarian aid but so far is not taking action against the terrorists killing people. and yemen may enter a peace teal with iranian backed militants. political unrest and terrorism like we have never seen it before. much of the middle east apparently on the verge of collapse, including yemen. and of course the situation in iraq and syria. all this taking place not long after the u.s. withdrew from the region.
supposedly leaving behind a more, quote, stable iraq. remember the president said that. so how did we get here? who takes ownership for this? the fox news political insiders are here and you can join the confrontation on twitter, at harrisfaulkner, and i'm already talking with some of you. brad boykin, joining us from washington, pand doug shown. overarching, the bus has arrived at a very dangerous middle east. that's probably not breaking news because it's been a mess for a while. but this is new relatively speaking, why? >> well, it is the failure of leadership of the united states. i don't see this, harris, in strictly political terms, there's plenty to blame president obama for, for goodness sakes why we couldn't
get a status of forces agreement in iraq to stabilize that country is a question i continux to ask. but it's deeper and bigger than that, it's a question of the bush administration and the ill advised decision to go into iraq in the first place and the failure of us to have a strategy to deal with unrest, instability and, yes, terrorism in that region. >> brad, i want to come to you with the question of, you have got the midterm elections coming up november 4. is this going to be one of instances where it isn't going to be the economy, stupid. maybe national security issues may pull people to the poll, is that possible? >> i think it's going to be a come bin nation of the way people feel, as we know, a high percentage of americans believe that the country is going down the wrong track, it's going to be how they feel economically and their security, especially with isis beheading two americans, we're seeing now the increase in violence in the middle east, now we're seeing it
rising again in egypt and yemen and elsewhere. so i believe this is going to be a two pronged election, the economy and nashviltional secur for sure, those are going to be the two issues. but also the republicans have to focus on the other issues that are also going to be important regionally in their races. >> americans are saying they feel now more unsafe than ever and they feel like their voice is not being heart or carried out the way they want in washington. >> they are disenfranchised, that they are not the solve republic sovereigns of this country, but slaves of the -- it's not just, i agree with what doug said, bush's ill advised invasion and even worse occupation of iraq. obama is wanting to get out, and getting out too soon, which
tonight, leon panetta, his secretary of defense is saying he was against, as was, i think hillary clinton sort of as far as i can tell. the president shall be ohas bee hiss own. even jimmy carter says we should attack isis, the only person who says he should and we don't is the president. in you can crane, they held a democratic fund-raiser, libya, the country liberated a few weeks ago, airplanes have a disappeared, we have had to abandon the country diplomatic. we are joining with iran to join a coalition? they are the enemy, and we have the person who negotiated, wendy sherman, the deal with the koreans which was a disaster on nuclear proliferation, she's there now giving even more
concessions. what is going on hiere? >> you know where i wouldn't want to be in an administration under this fire week, at the u.n. this week from the general assembly is meeting. have we made grounds in any place that you can see. >> we have lost ground and, harris, as i said i think last week, and i have had a chance to think about it, when i was in korea, when i was in ukraine in the last week or so, the question i got was where is the united states, where is the united states leadership and what do you people stand for, where are you and what are you going to do? >> what do we stand for? >> right. because we don't articulate, harris, our core values and who we are as a people. >> that's particularly sad. >> it's very sad. >> we said we would stop the syrians with a red line. now we find out, by the way, after the administration has been crawling after the deal they got after they screwed that up, now we find out that john
kerry, the secretary of state says they used chemical weapons again, those stockpiles are not gone. we have four people and prehelpeded at the border, who apparently have terrorist ties trying to come over the border. and the department of homeland security says i have heard something to that effect, but it hasn't checked out yet. >> so whenever i bring up the topic of our border and all of the illegals that are crossing it. i get tons of tweets that says the border, you get back to wherever. we can't ignore the border issue. these people are hunting us and there are a porous road for them to cross over. >> we haven't had secure borders since the founding of our country. and now more than ever -- look, how is it possible that we can send our troops to far away lands to secure their border, but somehow it's inappropriate to secure or own? we must secure the border not only for our own integrity but for our own safety. republicans and democrats, that
should be a uniting issue, but the problem is the president has pushed a comprehensive omnibus immigration package instead of smaller packages, first securing the border, moving to legalization of those who are here illegally and taxation and visas a and the whole nine yards, we have to start with secure borders. >> i had asked this on twitter, we asked it inside the fox report, should america have a draft? charlie wrangle is saying yes. >> i think we need to consider something because we are ill served by a budget that is inadequate to meet the purposes and a fighting force that is inadequate to meet the many charges. >> you've got between a million and 3 million people trying to save the freedom for 300 million of us. >> and it's a small world actually. we have a navy that is smaller than it was in world war i. we have an army that hasn't been this small since before world war ii. and we have an air force -- >> is draft the answer?
>> well, it's a budgeting issue, we certainly had the forces in the 1990s for the volunteer service. i think before you get to draft, you have to decide you have a war. we don't know we have a war. one thing i want to point out today, that's sis, speaking of why we're not taking them on. they are going door to door in those towns, these areas they control and in christian homes they're printing the letter n which means nazarene, then the troops come along and they ask you, either are you converting or do you want to be crucified if they're there. and they do that children. >> and we don't even know this. >> well, we'll talk more, stay with us, we'll be right back. ♪ [ male announcer ] when your office is 1,500 acres, it's good to have the right help. with models up to 62 horsepower or 1,400-pound payload. go tough. go strong. go gator.
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fi fire -- department representatives defending themselves before the house select committee, the very first one on benghazi, arguing security has been a top priority since the attack left four americans including our doron at the u.s. consulate two years ago. some critics place the blame squarely on then secretary of state hillary clinton. brad, i want to go to you first. you know, i criticized a little bit, based on what i saw and heard last week that it felt like this was the seventh hearing and not the first, that there wasn't a lot of that emotional fire at that hearing. your thoughts? >> well, it's important, you know, it almost took two plus years to get to the bottom of watergate. and the american people understand, we know that from polling that something stinks in benghazi, it did not go right and there was a cover-up.
and hillary clinton, the buck stops with her, as the president, she was the secretary of state. having said that, this is going to be an issue, and i agree with senator rand paul that benghazi is tied at the hip to hillary clinton, whatever she hasn't answered now, she will have to answer if she runs. she cannot escape her complicity in what happened in benghazi. >> all right, so there's a new reason to watch what's going on because of what pat mentioned that's happening now in libya, the fact that terrorists have taken over the government posts in that country and they are backed biby eier iran. >>uñ you remember the people we were going to bring justice? that's the same -- look, i had said over and over and over and we have been carrying the for of fox and on this program particularly, for almost two years. this is the greatest cover-up in the history of america. it's the worst decision making,
and it is the greatest political cover-up and there are many people in my party, unlike watergate, some republicans were willing to stand up, many of them against richard nixon in the corruption. here no one speaks out and i'll tell you, i'm hoping that first day was just laying down a base at the former policy. it was so boring, if that's what they're going to do, this is a waste. i want those men in the documentary, 13 hours, which opened number one on the "new york times" best seller list before it was in bookstores. you put those people up, and then you get the people in the state department and let's get down to starting with the lies of what happened that night and then also where our president was and who invented the video. >> so when i criticized that there was not enough passion, the other people on our couch said, no, no, it could just be a strategy, and as pat said, okay, fine, but then what's next? >> a hurried strategy.
>> republicans are afraid of overreaching. bipartisan. our need, our hunger to know what happened there should be everybody in the country. >> it should be, but this is 45 days before an election. the democrats are at a stall, the republicans are afraid to blow a victory that they think they have, but rest assured, it's not yet locked up. >> we have all the ammunition, we have it on benghazi, that we need to really step on it with these hearings. and there's a sense of, wait, wait, let's just go slow, everybody's trying to get past november. and that's not a very good strategy, we're seeing it not only in been gas si, we're seeing it in national security interests, we're seeing it on the economy. as far as i'm concerned, as a republican, it's every man and woman for themselves. there is a national strategy for this election and that's what we're missing. >> let's talk to senator rand
paul about this tying it to secretary of state clinton. >> i think she didn't answer the phone, and i it should absolute precluder from being considered for higher office. >> we talked about this a little bit previously last weekend right before it was about to happen. in iowa, she came right back on the scene, and then this hearing comes up. >> i think she's overstating the case, but we did learn this week, that a credible source that has to be taken seriously has made allegations that hillary clinton's chief of staff and key staffers were pulling documents out so that they didn't go to the accountability review board. harris, there are a lot of questions that hillary clinton will have to answer. >> that sounds really serious. and i want to say that sheryl t atkinson was doing the reporting on this. this was somebody who was cast with leading the department and was not invited to the basement
where this was going on. >> this is not the enemy of the president. >> he's also a disgruntled employee as well. >> they're trying to blame him for benghazi, the innocent are blamed and the guilty are going free. >> tell me what this does to hillary's aspiration, is rachnd paul overstating when he says she's done? >> i don't want -- mr. rogers intelligence committee, who said, who he was joining the democrats trying to suppress any benghazi hearings, as his wife works security industry, and if that's not enough, he is, you know, he's the one rogue reporter, his committee saying they did everything they could that night, there was nothing they could do, directly contradicting now we have people who after being hidden are out there. she is a hostage to this. the fate will be what happens. but the problem is, everyone, as
brad said and doug said, it's about elections, it's not about the country, aren't you people tired, americarawu the politics coming often? the president is going to grant amnesty to 5 million to 11 million people. i don't see the republicans raising that issue. >> the republicans have the vote. >> brad, i want to get you in here. >> i got to say, i agree with my two democratic friends, that republicans have been completely silent on immigration, on health care, on the economy, on jobs, on debt, why? because they're banking that the american people will be more concerned about isis and foreign policy than they will about the economy. >> are they right? >> they're not right, no. they're not right. and things are going to have to turn around the next 30 days or so. >> all right, we're going to take a quick break, stay close. there's a reason no one says
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i just want to very quickly touch on domestic violence for a moment and the nfl under fire for its hand lgs of abuse of women and/or children. we saw some lawmakers over the last week or so, a bipartisan group of lawmakers getting together and calling for different penalties for athletes and so forth. but something pops up. i'm curious to get the panel's point of view on this. not the same treatment, and it's outside the nfl, it's in the world of professional soccer. but just real quickly, some of the criticism that i have seen is that she shouldn't be on the field right now either but we're treating men and women differently. >> i think there's a different issue and a larger one is that the american people want fairness in the administration of justice. why should soccer players or nfl
players have different standard than we all have, and why should roger goodell speak for 44 minutes saying nothing and keep his job and get $44 million? none of that makes sense. >> this thing with the nfl, i know it's important, but right now the world is blowing up, we have a country where three-quarters of american people believe their children will not have a better future, which is a moral issue. 60% believe the country is in declid decline and the news media wants to spend its time on this. i want to know how you can't get three fbi agents in benghazi, while all the evidence is being blundered. but you can send 40 of them out to missouri in a couple of hours. >> and the nfl can't get to the atlantic county prosecutor's office to get video footage, apparently. >> you guys feel strongly. brad, real quickly? >> i'm on the board for sports fan coalition, we fight for sports fans, my partner on the
board is a good friend, a senior advise for to clinton. the nfl has gotten a way with a lot over the years, it's nonprofit status, there's a whole bunch of issues where they have been protected. whether it's baseball, football, professional sports, they should be held to the same standard as everyone else. >> it's been something you've been talking about on social media. >> i just want to say the same team that came up with is not winning states in the 2012 senate, but losing seats. to establish republicans victory, lost in states, in montana, in north dakota, carried heavily by ronald reagan because of a republican message and no narrative. we have another election where the country nationally has looked at polls and saying this election is going the explode and i think they may snatch
defeat from the jaws of victory again. >> harris, the issue is not money, it's message. as brad said correctly, they need a message on immigration, on the economy, on terror. what they would do and what the president's failing to do so far, they're mia. >> brad, last word. >> harris, it's not enough to be against something, you got to stand for something, we should have had a 10-point plan for republicans in every portion of the country. take seven of the ten that work in your area, whether it's economy, debt, health care, and national security, immigration and work those issues to the benefit of your campaign. >> that's why you're not getting dullard's they're not appear either. >> we wonhich is why kansas is blowing up, folks, because an independent is winning there. >> so many issues of concern for this country. certainly looks like politics. more important perhaps to the president. thank you for joining us,
gentlemen. brad, thanks for sitting in tonight with the insiders, it was a pleasure to have you. thanks to all of our viewers who chimed in on twitter. we'll get more from you next time, hopefully. next is the fox report.
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live from denver tuesday, october 7th. no promises on the raps though. that's it for "special report," fair, balanced and unafraid from lake charles. greta goes "on the record" right now. we'll see new washington tomorrow. this is a fox news alert. isis a threatening attacks on subways an trains right here in the united states. the iraq prime minister tipping us off warning the terror threat might be imminent the most terrifying part of this warning is the attack has not been stopped. fox news chief intelligence correspondent catherine herridge joins us. >> what's scary about this story is the details provided by the iraqi prime minister are extremely specific. he said he got information from baghdad that individuals had been arrested. they were members of isis. there was a plot to attack the subway systems in paris and also the united states. and that the operatives who are not iraqis, they were american and french nationals. once this hit the wires, what you saw here in
washington was a pretty rapid response this information had not been passed to the u.s. government formal channels and they were unaware of this information. >> has everyone been arrested in this little group that had no idea? >> the iraqi prime minister, again, this is what has my attention is the the specificity. when people speak very generally, there is not always a lot of truth to it. but he is talking with a number of specifics. he says we have arrested individuals but they are part of a network. so we don't believe that the threat or the plot has been completely thwarted. >> why doesn't the united states know about this? sort of a. >> there are a couple -- sorry to just jump. in there are a couple of explanations. one that it's just bogus information, okay? it's bogus information -- >> -- and we're vulnerable to that right now. >> well, it's bogus information and because of that it was not passed through these proper or traditional government channels. number two is that there could have been what i would
call sort of a ships passing in the night situation is which is the iraqi prime minister gets the information from baghdad. is he is at the u.n. he is surrounded by reporters. and there is not really a filter. he releases the information, and it hasn't had a chance to get into the government channels. but the bottom line is that episode underscores the fact that everyone understands isis, their ambition is to hit the united states, if they can and do it domestically. >> catherine, thank you. >> you're welcome. >> so, why haven't u.s. officials confirmed the isis terror plot to take place on u.s. soil? and what does iraqi intel know he that we don't? representative peter king is on the homeland security committee, he joins us. good evening, sir. >> hi, greta, how are you? >> very well. prior to today's announcement from the iraqi prime minister, had you heard anything about a plot to hit new york or paris subways? >> no, i didn't. and from talking to everyone that i know in the intelligence and law
enforcement community today, it seems to be no evidence to substantiate what the prime minister has said. and i mean, there is nothing coming from iraqi intelligence, as far as i know, the fbi, homeland security, nypd, now this would have involved a subway attack in new york, remember, we have 140 government leaders in new york this week, including every major world leader has been here. and so obviously you would have thought that somebody would have contacted the nypd and baghdad would have made this known. right now it appears it's misinformation. obviously it's going to be examined and you can be sure that our people are in very close contact with the intelligence agencies in baghdad. >> i guess i would love to believe that and then i sort of think is this bogus? but then i think look our intelligence people didn't catch 9/11. they didn't catch the terror plot in times square until that happened. the underwear bomber, he was allowed to bomb a plane with buying a oneway ticket without any baggage. it's like on the one hand i
don't want to be an alarmist, on the other hand, there is some really bad things that have slipped through the cracks with our intelligence service. >> oh, no, that can always happen. you don't know what you don't know. but, in this case if there were more to it, you would think that baghdad intelligence would have immediately told our intelligence agencies and they have their own prime minister in new york the city that could have been attacked. you would have thought again what should have happened is and in fact happens the 8999 out of 1,000 times. when a nation finds something like this or thinks they find something, even if it's a tip or hint, they elm my i can't tellly pass it immediately pass it on to the intelligence communities affected. what i can find out the cia, fbi, homeland security nobody was notified by baghdad of anything. in fact, their prime minister was in the city at a time when they felt, according to him that there could be an attack on new york. it doesn't add up. but, again, everything has to be checked out. >> all right. well i guess it would make a big difference to me i sort of guess as to whether this is real or not.
frankly we are in a position where we have to guess, regrettably. does the u.s. get like a bunch of these scary alerts like five a day so that this is just one of many or is this unusual so that maybe, you know, give it more attention? >> no. we get quite a few. you get people who come to embassies around the world. some have been reliable in the past. some haven't. they will come in and say they think there is going to be an attack in such and such location. that happened several years ago before 9/11, the 10th anniversary of 9/11 we got information there was going to be attack on ground zero of 9/11 itself. it was all person alert in new york for those two days before and the day itself. and as it turned out it was either bogus or the plot was called back. but, again, we can't take anything for granted. every hint, every tip is tracked down. and in addition to that though.
comes too late. certainly the christmas day bombing. the times square bombing. we should have certainly with the christmas day bombing we he should have known more. but, again, all annualized and is looked at and also for the prime minister to -- the last thing he should have done is mentioned it publicly before he had told the american government. you would think something as serious as this he wouldn't mention to a bunch of reporters on a street corner. >> that is curious indeed. thank you, sir. >> thank you, greta. >> very unnerving subway plot in the u.s. what could be done to prevent these attacks? next agent terrorism task force jonathan guilliams. thank you, sir. >> good to be here. >> says this is a specific attack on a subway in new york and paris. how do we find out whether this is the real deal and what do we do? >> well, contrary to what a lot of people would think actually have a specific threat will help the
investigation because it gives us specific sources that we he can query. it let's us look at specific groups that the threat may be coming from. so, basically what you will see now is ramp up the sources that data base checks and we'll see overall the joint terrorism task force, the dod intel groups will see if they can find any chatter or sources that they may know about this. at the same time see state and local law enforcement really amp up if they need to their security at those specific sites. >> what i find troubling right now is i think we are particularly vulnerable to panic. we just had two americans beheaded. a tourist has been beheaded. an aide worker has been beheaded. there has been a woman in iraq. human rights activist who was just tortured and killed. we are pretty vulnerable and dropping bombs in syriaened a iraq. who do we know? i mean, how does law enforcement, you new york, i can'te you get lots of
chase everything down every second. what do we do? >> let's look at it in a way everybody can understand. bank robberies happen all the time in the united states. but you're not -- you don't see people panicked and running out of a bank because of fear. you have to be smart. you have to know that these things can happen. it's a gambling game. you know, the terrorists, they have the odds in their favor because no matter what defense we set up, they have the ability to wait, look at it, and go around it you know, it's similar to a bank, you have to it be aware when you go in there there is always potential but you have to go there. if you have to go to work and take the subway. beaware. i'm sorry, go ahead, greta. >> you can be on a subway and 30 feet underground and between two stops and all of a sudden you think the person next to you has a package of c 4 plastic. you are really out of luck at that point. >> however say you are not out of luck like in spain when the bombs went off. you had individuals getting off. this is on video, they are riding the escalator.
turn around and look. i hear a bomb go off i'm running, unfortunately those people the next bomb went off and killed them. >> and, of course, it's not the old days where you need a big fighter plane or bomber who drop a bomb on something. one person can do an awful lot of damage. >> one person seeing it and notifying somebody be can always make or break that know it, nothing can beat an aware human at beating a terrorist attack. >> we all feel deposit pew advertised by 9/11 to speak up or i hope so if we see something peculiar. thank you, sir. >> thank you, greta. >> british counter terrorism officials announcing the arrest of nine suspects in ongoing investigation. grn reporter chris walker joins us right now. chris, what happened in the uk? >> well, an early whoop, 18 houses. one of our leading muslim
fanatical preachers arrested. and strangely, in comparison with you, i mean, we have got the arrest but we haven't got the targets. nobody has been suggesting there is an immediate attack threatened on the london underground, though that has happened before. but these people have been absolutely outspoken in support of isis. really saying the most terrible things in public about how they are not going to defend our hostages still alive and how muslims should kill christians and such like this has been cleaning up operation. i think it's probably not circumstantial that's it's happened along with what's threatened in paris and washington there is bound to
be blow back. next 48 hours it looks like. i suspect we will be getting our threats too. >> chris, we only have 30 seconds left. i'm curious why does the uk seem to be such a breeding ground for a lot of these terrorists? >> very good question. the answer is i think we have got very little control over the mosques. there is the language, of course. and in fact, we have got huge numbers of them who live here. and seem to be very, very unrestricted in their movements. there is a growing feeling about this. how is this happening? we have heard three killed by us air strikes in iraq and syria this week. that's three brits. that's a huge percentage. chris thank you. breaking now, barbaric masked man speaking english with british accent and
blaming the united states and england in the video showing beheadings of a two americans and. they will not reveal the executioner's name. the u.s. and allies still pounding isis, launching at least 200 air strikes targeting isis in syria and iraq. the troubling question, is this enough? >> baghdad is still relatively secure. i mean, there has been a couple of minor ied attacks inside baghdad, but the isf, the iraqi security forces in and around the capitol are still defending the capitol. it's not like isil has not posed a threat there. >> oliver north good to see you. >> good to be with you. >> i'm concerned with us and isis and whether it is spreading. >> i think catherine's comment about how we came to know this threat about washington -- new york and
paris transportation infrastructure is always going to be a prime target visuals are compelling. they are savvy knowing how to use that to their advantage. if you are riding in beltway. silver lining goes out. goes over the beltway and if you think about somebody getting something like two brothers, assembled in boston before a marathon and carried that on to a subway leaving town. you would have a visual that would be very, very effective as a recruiting tool for the most radical jihadists on this planet. here is the problem with what we are doing. we are giving them a safe haven of 15 to 16 hours a day because we're only bombing at night. now, the idea, of course, is to take out targets of opportunity. what we really need to have is 24/7 coverage up over top of syria. if we are going disrupt and
disable and eventually destroy isis, you can't just do it with nighttime strikes. >> then why aren't we doing 24. >> i'm hoping somebody will ask admiral cure buy that because he is after all an admiral. why we don't have a second strike group out in the mediterranean and the persian gulf. you cannot maintain a sustained air operation. the talk missiles being launched on the screen. you can't do it without more ships. >> we're also told you can't do it without boots on the ground. i'm not advocating that if you are saying we don't have a 24/7 air power and even if we did that wouldn't do the job? >> no. ultimately, someone, rough men with rifles have to go to take terrain, capture bad guys and free hostages. cannot do it with airplane. unfortunately, we have got a mystical belief in the power of aircraft dropping bombs precision guided munitions. i mean, look at those visuals that we are getting out of the pentagon. i mean, goes right down and
takes out the antenna. building kind of stuff. the bottom line of it is if we are going to take the fight to disrupt them before we destroy them, somehow with 5,000 people trained in 10 to 12 months in saudi arabia. will now have to go back into the fight against not only isis but also against al assad. i don't see how this works. i mean, i had it described to me yesterday by a former marine general as there is not a snow ball's chance in hell of this succeeding the way it's being fought. >> that's encouraging, i say very sarcastically. >> sorry. >> thank you. nice to he see you. >> and developing now, those barbaric islamic exextreme i.s, strike again. not a journalist, an aide worker or a tourists. isis in mosul, iraq, kidnapping, tortures and publicly executing a female iraqi human rights lawyer. her name is samira. executed the wife and mother
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numbers from tanking further? >> well, first of all, forget the numbers. stop looking at them. the president. >> maybe he isn't looking at them. that was just, you know, my. >> yeah. well, if he is, and i'm confident he is this president polls too much. pays too much attention to the polls. stop looking. is he a war time leader. whether he likes it or not. his numbers are bad because, and they are not recently bad, the last time his favorability outnourished unfankt was essentially 53 weeks ago. and the president has been upside down since then. when putin moved in to crimea and then began messing with ukraine. when isis spread across northwestern iraq. president obama began to have real deep problems with how people viewed his ability to handle foreign affairs, terrorism and whether or not he was a strong leader. so, excuse me. his problem is that people
are looking at his policies and saying they don't work and he is not a strong leader. work on getting the right policy and be a strong, effective leader and the poll also take care of them. it's been a long time coming it will be a long time getting out. tell me if i'm right or wrong on this. when there is a foreign policy crisis, the party in power does a little bit better. i mean, that's a terrible thing to say. a crisis and foreign policy and americans sort of rally behind the leader. >> yeah, there is temporarily and i suspect the president is going to see a little bit of upward movement at some point but probably not a lot and maybe not at all for the following reasons. people don't think that he is a strong leader. he has got this great irony that about 60% of the people support bombing syria. 70% of the people support bombing isis in iraq. 60 o% think the president is not stroong leader and 38% approval rating on handling foreign affairs and a 41% approval rating on handling terrorism. there is a gap between they
sort of like the policy but they are not certain it's going to succeed. but they think he is weak and feckless and not a strong leader and those things are going to take a long time to change because they have been basically six years in the making. >> what is your thought on attorney general eric holder announcing that he will be resigning as soon as the president finds a replacement? >> i think it's good for the country, good for the justice department. attorney general holder has been a partisan hack. he has not been the independent attorney general that we are -- or somewhat independent attorney general that we expect. from the moment that he came into the office, until the moment he finally departs. he has done very little except things that advocate -- advance the political agenda of the administration. and pit american against american. i cannot believe that one the first things he did when he came into office was to dismiss the lawsuit against the black panther party which was caught on video brandishing clubs and threatening voters outside
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deal over iran's nuclear program that they would never give up uranium enrichment and that he wanted more concessions on the pressure having been put on iran over sanctions and other restrictions. so, i think he sees that the white house is so desperate for a deal on the nuclear front that they will make these other concessions. i very much fear he is right. i listened to the speech and read the transcript mr. nice guy and iran nice place and how everybody else is so violent and awful and, of course, meanwhile they have got a christian pastor, an american sitting in prison because he won't convert to islam. it was such a contrast reality all his right rhetoric play to domestic audience. europe and the united states. much of his comment outside of the nuclear program was blaming outsiders westerners
and u.s. in particular for being part of the cause for islamic extremism. he said basically it dealing with isis was not something that outsiders could do. and that indeed it was our actions initially that had given rise to isis. so i think it was a very well done propaganda job. >> well with, israel paid a lot of attention to this phrase. and the whole world would be. we are committed to continuing our peaceful nuclear program including enrichment and enjoy our full iranian rights and soil within the framework of international law. there is no way in hell that they have any intention of banning their program working on a deal with us. >> they haven't had intention of doing that for 30 years. obama administration, i have to say last couple years of the bush administration in their efforts to cut a deal with iran over the nuclear program have have been pursuing a fool's errand. it's given iran both time to overcome the difficult technological obstacles between them and deliverable
nuclear weapons and given iran legitimacy. what rouhani was really searching for today was additional paths to legitimacy. we have seen british prime minister, david cammeron meeting with rouhani in new york. a big mistake. we have seen the secretary of state john kerry desperately looking for some way to bring them into the anti-isis fight and we have seen the president as over the past couple of years looking for that photo opportunity he could have have with rouhani. i think he knows his mark and he is playing it. >> i'm anxious to hear what prime minister netanyahu has to say when it's his turn it. anyway, ambassador, thank you, sir. >> thank you. >> from fast and furious to ferguson to accusing the president's critics of racial animus. attorney general eric holder is no stranger to controversy. well, you now he is stepping down after a rocky tenure as america's top law enforcement official. >> we will make the department of justice into what it was and into what it always must be.
eric holder sworn in as attorney general and making promise six years ago. >> the nation is potentially at hand. >> days after taking office holder shocked the country. >> in things racial we have always been and we, i believe continue to be in too many ways essentially a nation of cowards. >> it doesn't stop there. may, 2009, holder drops charges against three black panthers accused of intimidating voters on election day. november of 2009. holder announces plans to try khalid sheikh mohammed the mastermind of the 9/11 terror attacks and co-spirits in new york city. >> they will be brought to new york, to new york to answer for their alleged crimes in a courthouse just blocks away from where the twin towers once stood. >> july 2010, holder's justice department sues arizona over its immigration law, the goal: to stop police from checking immigration status at traffic stops. and who could forget this? june 2012. the house of representatives holding the attorney general
in contempt amid the fast and furious gun running scandal. >> we're only asking the attorney general to turn over documents directly related to false statements made to ghong a coverup. >> accusations that attorney general holder brushed aside. >> truly absurd. truly absurd conspiracy theories. >> may 2013, the justice department caught with phone records from the associated press and days later, fox news james rosen named as a co-conspirator in a leak investigation and just weeks ago, the attorney general calling himself an activist saying is he proud of it and then, sparking outrage one more time with these remarks about his critics. >> there is a certain racial component to this for some people. i don't think this is the thing -- a main driver but for some there is a racial anus. >> and now reverend al sharpton claiming is he advising the white house on the a.g. holder's replacement. is there any truth to that joining us weekly panel john
mccormick and "the washington post" jackie kucinich and byron york. that's what he he puts first, byron, on his web site today national action network he was engaged in conversations with the white house about the successor. then he backed down. >> hope that's not true. >> i think a lot of people probably hope that's not true. >> i think that is the case that eric holder who is an historic attorney general, first black attorney general will go down as the civil rights attorney general from. >> over bobby kennedy? >> yes, i think so. from the very beginning. >> i don't think so. a picture of him hung in his office. >> from the very beginning with the nation of cowards remark. all the way to ferguson at the end. this has been something that the attorney general focused on the civil rights division. some of his most memorable actions were in that area. including not enforcing the law. remember, he chose not to enforce the defense of marriage act. he took arizona as you
mentioned in the piece to court to stop the enforcement of the immigration law. so he was somebody with an an agenda and when that involved not forcing the law he didn't do it? >> i don't think he will go down in history as the civil rights attorney general. i think that goes to bobby kennedy. i debelabor that which the justice department is named after. your thought on holder. >> one of the things you mentioned bobby kennedy he called ethel kennedy bobby kennedy's widow to tell her he was stepping down that was one of the people. obviously he was very much following bobby kennedy's legacy and i think among certain people i agree with byron go with sentencing reform what did he to calm down ferguson, missouri when he went there. of course, there is the other side of this. a lot of the things you mentioned. >> what about, john, is al sharpton, could he truly be involved in part of this discussion of who the next attorney general is? >> i have no idea.
but the big -- >> -- he thinks he is apparently. >> the big criticism of eric holder is that he was one of the most politicized and partisan attorney generals in history. there are a lot of scandals out there and controversies. i think the very worst from a legal standpoint was his decision not to vigorously defend the defense of marriage act which was a law signed into law by the president. the job of the attorney general isn't to be a judge. it's to be the advocate. he failed at that in 2009. the defense didn't really give a vigorous defense and again in 2011. independent at all. as attorney general you are not supposed to defend the laws that you like or the laws that your donors like. you are supposed to defend the law. he didn't do that that's a terrible precedent going forward. >> we should throw the irs in there too. just last week lois lerner gave a long interview to politico. i believe she would not have felt comfortable doing that had she not been pretty sure that the justice department was not really on her tail. and the justice department ended that investigation
apparently gone absolutely nowhere even as congress has found out all sorts of damaging revelations about it. >> all right. well already we got a statement from the attorney general the state of california she says she is honored to even be mentioned. apparently her name was out there. basically she says she wants to stay in california. i don't know why we got a statement from her. i'm going to issue my statement next. anyway, thank you all. >> let's all go off-the-record for main. this is really messed up. i had no idea about this until yesterday, that the white house, not the press, but the white house distributes the white house print pool reports. here is how it works. each day, the print pool reporters follow the president around and write reports to the entire media before the entire media gets those reports, the white house reviews them and it is the white house that sends the reports out to everyone in the media now, i had no idea. i thought the pool sent the pool reports directly to everyone in the media but why is the white house seeing or reviewing the
reports first? that's a little bit like sending the fox out to guard the chicken coop. i learned even more. on occasion, it could be rare, the white house doesn't like some of the condition tent in the pool reports. the white house pressures the print pool to change them. and in some instances, the pool has. that's really bad. that is so messed up. so much for freedom of the press, right? and besides the review, why is the white house in the business of distributing pool reports? it can't be costs? media organizations are so rich they can pay for it themselves. it sure can't be white house technical know how. remember healthcare.gov? i don't know but. i think this is really messed up we wonder why no one trusts the media? that's my off-the-record comment tonight. and an american pastor beaten and in prison in iran just for being a christian. locked away for 700 days now. the pastor's wife and reverend franklin graham are here now with a plan to get him out. this is holly.
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an american pastor sitting in prison in iran just because is he a christian. tomorrow marks two years since the iranians grabbed him and locked him up. now reverend franklin graham is joining the pastor's wife in leading a prayer in front of the white house. they are calling for the american christian pastor's release and urging president obama it to help free him. reverend franklin graham and reverend abedino joins us now. have you had any contact with your husband at all in prison, lately. >> his family gets to visit him every wednesday and last i heard his mom got to visit him. >> his condition is what? >> he couldn't sit through the whole 20 minute visitation, which is rare. last time they saw him last week and he had to walk out halfway, about 10 minutes into it because of internal pain he h he still has some kind of wound or you ulcer that keeps opening up and injuries that have happened mainly because ever first few months of beatings because the first few months of interrogation that he was
told if he denies christ, and returns to islam, he would be he freed. >> reverend franklin graham, he is just a christian. i mean, that's the whole reason he is sitting in prison for years. what do you want to do? what do you hope to accomplish? >> he is in prison because he believes that jesus christ is god's son and that jesus died for our sins upon the cross and was buried for our sins and that god raised him to life and because he believes this, he has been beaten, he has been tortured, imprisoned for two years. and he is an american citizen. he is born in iran but he is an american. and they are torturing him and beating him and trying to get him to recant his faith in christ. and i'm wanting to help, greta, to draw attention to this. i'm so grateful that you have allowed us to come on your program today to talk about it. >> yesterday, president obama was before the u.n. general assembly and he had praise for, i guess, what he would call moderate muslims.
and he -- then he spoke about extremism as well. what's your thought about whether or not president obama can help in a situation, whether he is helping? >> no question he can help. he is the president of the united states. and he does have great power and great influence. right now, america is trying to get iranian support for their fight against isis. we need, bto talk to the iranians about support for isis. we need to say hey, we want all the americans to come home. sid abedino is one of several being held there the president can do it and we just, i think, the white house responds to pressure. if there is enough people who pick up the phone and call, if enough constituents pick up the phone and call, send emails, it will get the attention of the white house. otherwise, they don't seem to be bother him. >> it's been two years though. tomorrow marks the two year date when her husband was picked up by the iranians. >> again, greta, it's for his faith.
no other reason. the president has said that islam was a religion of peace. he said that yesterday in his statement before the general assembly. if it truly is a religion of peace, then why are they holding a man and beating him and torturing him because of his faith in jesus christ? if islam really is a religion of peace i call on the iranian president to let him come home to his wife, to his children and quit torturing him. quit beating him and traying to get him to renounce his lord and savior, jesus christ. >> and you nod your head yes. >> i agree. it's been two years. to some it's been over 700 days for a family seeing my kids cry every night. reverend graham has been a father figure for the kids and i, a great support. i can't say enough of his support. but it's time to get him home. two years a long enough. we are talking to the iranians. they are condemning isis for
beheading christians but they are holding someone, an american citizen in their prison simply for being christian. it's time to bring him home. >> well, reverend graham, good luck and i hope that, you know, two years is way too long. two years is too long but right now it's like i don't, you know, i wish we could do something more for him. >> thank you, greta. >> thank you. >> and tonight, major developments in the case of missing uva opportunity hannah graham. our team son the ground. a live update is next. introducig
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here, 32 years old. came through the local public schools. working locally at the university of virginia hospital as a patient technician in the operating room. a football player in high school and then beyond. involved in the sport and playing for a local adult league, a semiprofessional team. also was a volunteer coach for a private christian school nearby. so, that is something that we have learned about him. well known by a lot of people. i have been speaking with some friends who are describing him as, you know, a nice guy. somebody that they have spent a lot of time with over the years. >> he was involved with a high school football team? >> he was involved, right, with the covenant high school team. it's a christian private school. has a pretty good football team. a number of people on the coaching staff. my understanding is he was a volunteer assistant coach. >> what do you want to have answered the most. >> the biggest thing everybody wants to know is where is hannah graham. of course we all would do anything to make this case come to a happy ending and
find her and have some miracle, you know, happen where she is okay and family gets her back and university and friends get her back. that is obviously what we would all like. a resolution to what happened regardless i think is also important so that people can move forward. >> but the horrible question remains where is hannah? "on the record" ted williams is live with the latest in charlottesville. what is the latest in the search for hannah graham? as you know they all have jesse matthews found 1300 miles away from here. he has waived extradition. on his way back here.
maybe will help out in this investigation. of course us a you know, greta, he has already lawyered up. >> ted, the chief of police mentioned in news in the car indicate whether she was in the car or whether she might have been hurt in the car? >> no. greta, that was asked of the chief of police and tim longo, who is a superb chief of police is keeping a lot of information rightfully so close to his vest. but he is doing all he can to put out information. there is now a$100,000 reward for anyone who can help bring hannah home. >> and in terms of the search still searching the whole area or abandoned search? >> absolutely not. they are searching everywhere they can. buildings, streams, water ways. is he asked the various farmers to walk their land and see if, in fact, they can find hannah graham or if
she is there on their land. it's a blanket search, greta. >> ted, thank you. >> and coming up, two marines are doing what they can to make sure fellow marine sergeant andrew tahmooressi is not left behind in a mexican prison. find out what the two marines did. that's next. don't forget to watch hannity tonight at 10:00 p.m. eastern. democratic congressman adam smith debates two benghazi smith debates two benghazi security team members., hannity. e starts to relieve my pain in 30 minutes. plus, sensitivity to light and sound, even nausea. excedrin migraine works. know that chasing performance and fewer choices in retirement. know that proper allocation could help increase returns so you can enjoy that second home sooner. know the right financial planning can help you save for college and retirement.
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where is president obama? we have a crisis. ebola. and now there is even more chaos and it isn't even as though this is a big surprise. the world health organization tipped the president off about ebola in march and then again in august. yet, we still don't have consistent policies that all states, all cities and all hospitals are following. ebola is real. it's dangerous. it's contagious. what happens if it hits your hometown? who is going to make the decisions? is it president obama? how about your governor? your mayor? well, start guessing because no one has any clue. >> we believe it's appropriate to increase current screening procedures for people coming from affected countries. >> common sense approach that the federal government
wasn't taking. >> i think it's common sense. >> person could require a mandatory 21 day quarantine. >> people who are a symptomatic do not transmit. >> i'm the governor of the state of new york. and my number one job is to protect the people of the state of new york. >> nurse casey i had -- hickok says she is being treated like a criminal. >> the moment she was no longer symptomatic. >> service deserving of praise and respect. and having her submit a tent for two or three days. >> we need to find a way when they come home that they are treated like conquering heroes and not the work they have done. >> i want to be safer than cdc says. >> there are other steps that you can protect american people based on the scientific evidence. >> i disagree with the cbc. >> go with the science.
>> so far at least nine states have issued stricter guidelines than the cdc. should we have inconsistent policies? should president obama step in? governor sarah palin joins us. good evening, governor. >> thank you, greta. >> governor, it seems, first of all, where do you fall on this to put people in gawrn teen or not who have no symptoms coming from the hot zones? >> >> i do think that there needs to be that quarantine but, see, this is par for the course that obama's incompetency, his administration's incompetency is really shining bright in this one. if only president obama would put america first. this time. we know that the most efficient and effective level of government is that which is closest to the people, obviously state government, leadership there is more connected and much more efficient and effective than far off bubble, washington, d.c. trying to call the shots for these governors. there is a void of leadership here. and the governors need to step up and step in. >> all right. well, governor christie and
governor cuomo whether one agrees with them or not they did step up. governor quinn of illinois as well has said it. if you were still governor of alaska, what would do you? >> you know, i would talk to the other governors. and i betcha we would come to the conclusion that you can't trust the obama administration to really do much of anything right so, yes, we would take it upon ourselves to exercise our tenth amendment right and that is states rights, taking over some of these issues, especially that is proven that the federal government isn't able to do. but, also, a big picture here, greta, that i don't hear a lot of people talking about right now is we know that liberals will capitalize on any crisis. in fact, this administration, some characters within it have advocated for and even advertised their desire to capitalize on crisis. they are not going to let it go to waste. those are solenski tactics, rules for radicals, one of those rules is yes you capitalize on crisis. a fear mode that they don't
mind the people of america being in so that the people of america would think that they have to rely on big brother government to answer the questions for them and solve the problem. >> i have heard every expert in the area of medicine on ebola saying that you are only contagious if you you are showing some symptoms. i have heard nobody suggest -- all a though i know people are panic strickenned somebody around that area treating ebola patients. what do we do basically quarantine everyone who comes off knowing that the experts say that they are not contagious if they don't exhibit any symptoms? if we really at the present time to make sure this virus is contained and cannot rely on the federal government getting their stuff together and getting politics out of this issue and allowing the medical community to tell us what it is that needs to be done in each state with each airplane landing that would have passengers in there, perhaps coming from west africa or another nation
that is suffering from ebola, we're going to have to demand of our leadership in washington and on the state level to get politics out of this and allow the medical community to tell us factually what needs to be done. >> i don't even know if this is politics. i think it's more asleep at the wheel. in some ways i don't blame the governors for trying to just do something about it because, look, last march, the world health organization warned about ebola. they did it again in august. and, you know, it does require leadership to set some sort of standard. this is the problem. this is what we are going to do. this is what we have. instead, we are playing catch up this whole time and throwing everybody into chaos and people into panic and we can't each make good decisions because everybody is so freaked out because we have no sort of leadership on this. >> that's exactly right. and this isn't the first time that we have encountered ebola. look in the last 40 years, how many times this cropped up. along with other viruses, too. remember, samaritan's purse,
the doctor volunteering there. that was a long time ago relatively speaking, greta, where the issue was at the forefront of america's mind because you were covering it and others were covering this doctor who was going to be suffering from ebola. you would have even thought those weeks ago that the obama administration would have gotten their stuff together and been able to help advise, of course, american citizens what we're going to do. remember, too, this is an issue, though, of not -- we don't want any level of government to practice overreach because what, again, a liberal administration would want to do is promise the people that if you give up a little bit of your freedom, we will give you a little more security and in the meantime you will lose both. state level, federal level. we have to make sure that it's scientifically based. medically based. solution to the problems we are facing with ebola. not allow politics to creep in and the capitalization on a crisis because we're going to lose our freedom and a
security if we continue down this roads. >> governor, thank you for joining us. >> thank you. >> and governors and the white house are practically at war over ebola. is the government that dysfunctional when it can't get on the same page with the. joining us our guests. byron, like nobody is on first. >> i think the president has a policy to not have a policy about this. because i think he does think that the top priority for for the u.s. government in fighting ebola is to fight it in west after infantry -- africa. >> the governors have a smaller horizon on this. they want to protect the people in their states. by the way the pentagon has a different horizon because we now know that the pentagon is subjecting u.s. military people who have come from the hot zones in west africa, putting them in some sort of isolation before they return to the united states. but i think what you're
seeing this kind of crazy quilt of each state doing its own thing is a result of the president's policy to not have a policy. >> alexander, the whole idea of being the leader is to be the one in charge. this requires a comprehensive solution. we have to fight it in africa and fight it here but we all have to be on the same page. >> you can fault the president for not having a plan to keep the governors on the same page. at the same time, if you look at the jockeying that we are have seen from governors over the past few weeks, he they are clearly, you know, they have politics at play at well in a way that. >> in what way? >> for instance, governor cuomo who on friday stood bye bye side governor christie and expressed support for strict quarantine rolled that back and basically said that healthcare workers can self-quarantine after faced criticism not just from democrats and republicans but his opponent in a tough re-election fight. it was clear there was some consideration about the potential backlash might face there i think that's informing a lot of governors across the nation. >> look, i understand why people are frustrated with the obama administration.
i'm frustrated with them. i understand by people are concerned and worried and even afraid as ebola. so as me and members of my family. you are an attorney. step back and think about what we are cooking can and listen what the governor is saying there. we are seizing people's rights paced on a threat that right now has killed one person. you heard d the governor saying you have to be careful of the government because it likes to take away your freedoms from you in promising your security. that's what we are doing here, we are taking away. >> ron, i asked about the question. if you don't have the symptoms you are supposedly not contagious. the lack of policy that's put people into a full scale panic which is why that nurse who came in with no hours of sleep on that plane. >> which is my point. when we lose faith with our institutions we do draconian dangerous things. when we take a nurse who is not symptomatic and tested negative twice and we take away your civil liberties. we are on a slippery slope. >> that's a lack of leadership at the top. that's the problem. >> but, when we have people like sarah palin saying we need to quarantine people even when they're testing negative, we he all have to
be responsible. think about where this would lead. be very easy for the government to come up with another crisis or threat more pernicious than one person dying and seizing our guns a and liberty. it's a slippery slope. >> it's a situation where healthcare worker comes from hot zone where she has had contacts with patients. she has a fever, and you have to do something. now, if you come back and you have absolutely no signs or symptoms of anything, maybe you are told to self-monitor. >> she tested negative. >> after that. >> no, she tested negative twice. >> she is taken there first with a fever and that's something that healthcare officials have to be concerned about. if you if you don't trust government it's scary what we are doing here. i'm not defending the obama administration you know me better than that we are taking away rights. >> we need leadership from the top to tell us what we are doing so we are not all fighting with each other. >> i agree. the answer for us isn't to say quarantine everybody. >> answer from the top. panel, i did take the last word on it thank you.
isn't just doctors and nurses and travelers at risk it's also the military. growing number of troops being deployed to the ebola infected area. congresswoman blackburn joins us. what is the plan for our military? >> well, we are hearing that they are goods going to face a 21 day quarantine. we're very concerned about that i was at fort campbell last week and met with the command team. got some great information. came away with at love questions and have a letter in to the dod secretary. secretary hagel right now trying to get some answers there but we are hearing a 21 day quarantine is going to be an order for all of our military. >> how do you figure that? throw one nurse in a tent. 1500 over there 1500 little plastic tents to put them or i mean exactly, has anyone thought about this? it sounds great that's the problem with this administration no one thinks it through.
how are we doing this? has anyone planned it. >> no. that's part of the problem. we don't know the scope of the mission. we do not know exactly how long they are going to be there. we do not know what the process is going to be. when these men and women come home from that deployment, they need to be able to be home be with those troochings. if we are going to fight we would quarantine in west africa and any of those individuals who were citizens of those countries in the hot zone that want to exit, they would go through a quarantine. >> put 1500 of our military in one room in west africa where they spread it to each other? do we get 1500 plastic tents? i just don't know how to do. this right. that's exactly right. what you need to look at is the opportunity for something like a forward operating base. our men and women needs to know how this is going to be dealt with they need to know what level of risk they're
going to face. if they are out working on a construction site. that may be one level of risk. if they are going to be be training medical personnel that are liberians that would be another level of risk. we're concerned about who is vetting those individuals. we're concerned about the. >> let me tell you something scary. dr. brantly will be joining us soon. i have spoken to him a number of times. he believes that he did not get ebola taking care of ebola patients. he thought that he got it taken care of other patients that weren't in the ebola section. this, i mean, and our members of the military will necessarily come in contact with people. i'm hoping they don't get ebola. but, you know, it is -- it's infectious virus you are right. that's why we are seeking some of these answers. health security. personal security of some of our troops is going to be imperative. there are answers about this mission that we want to know the families want to know. we are in very close touch with those families. you need that comprehensive
strategy that you just mentioned. and you do not have it. you can't treat the military one way and treat individuals that are health workers coming out of the region another way. and, liberian sierra lee own guinea citizens another way. >> totally agree. leadership at the top to tell us what we are doing and how we are going to do it. congresswoman, thank you. >> thank you. >> this is a fox news alert. just moments ago, test results came back for a 5-year-old child who had ebola symptoms. fox news senior correspondent rick leventhal is outside new york's belleview hospital, rick? >> greta, it's good news for the family of that a-year-old boy who was brought lehr to bellview hospital last night with ebola-like symptoms. the test results came back negative but that boy will remain in isolation here at belleview and be retested in the days ahead to make sure he is in the clear. also tetsed for more common respiratory viruses.
returning from new guinea in west africa. one of the hot zones. they dispatched ambulances with e.m.s. workers in hazmat suits. his family also placed in quarantine will likely remain home for the next three weeks just in case. so, dr. craig spencer remains new york's first and only ebola patient still being treated at bellevue in isolation in serious but stable condition, possibly helped by a transfusion from nancy writebol, one of the nurses who contracted ebola and survived. doctors believe the mazda that treatments are helping these victims recover. then there is nurse casey who was released today and on her way to maine after being held in isolation in newark over the weekend. she was detained friday after returning from treating ebola patients and said she had no symptoms and said she was held in captive in prison like conditions.
she will be quarantined at home now and the debate how best to handle these possible ebola patients continues coast to coast, greta. >> rick, thank you. great news to for that childs. to gawrp teen wanted or not to gawrn teen. leaders can't get on the same page. no one seems to be in charge. all of it starts when dr. returns from west africa. spent a few days out in public before getting a fever and testing positive for ebola. tonight "on the record" retraces his steps in those hours just before he checked into the hospital. >> testing is a term that a patient here in new york city had tested positive for ebola. >> a doctor treating ebola patients in west africa can a bringing the deadly virus to america's largest city. >> this is new york city. it's one ever the capitals of the world. >> dr. craig spencer self-monitoring, taking his temperature every few hours but despite the risk, the doctor ren temperatured out into the city just hours before checking in at bellevue hospital in midtown, manhattan.
but are people at risk? "on the record" senior producer justin wells lives just blocks away from dr. spencer. he hit the ground to trace the doctor's steps. >> dr. spencer lived on this floor. residents here are very concerned. maybe it's a good idea when you come home you are in garb -- in quarantine for the incubation period. >> lives across the hall from dr. spencer. is he not happy with the government's response. >> living near a person with ebola does not put someone at risk. >> it's not sealed off and still not sealed off. >> mayor de blasio went to great lengths to say it was sealed off. >> it was not sealed off. >> now a hazmat team sanitizing dr. spencer's apartment. >> they have already put down some chemicals in order to clean out any bacteria or anything in the area. then two people are going to enter the apartment in hazmat suits and they are going to wipe down everything some neighbors
are ready to move out. >> more than likely when when my lease is up. >> may be your last. >> the risk goes beyond dr. spencer's apartment. the day before his diagnosis the doctor take as three mile drive down. he walks through harlem a densely populated neighborhood. 5:30 p.m. he leaves harlem and leads to brooklyn on the new york city subway. >> >> dr. spencer rode this train on the eve of showing symptoms of the deadly ebola virus. millions of people take the new york city subway every day. 15 minutes from his home. is he all the way in midtown. >> his final destination? a bowling alley all the way across the city. >> he we are at the gutter in williamsburg, brooklyn where dr. spencer showed up at about 6:00 p.m. on wednesday on the eve of being checked into the hospital. >> 8:30 p.m. ', hours before testing positive for the ebola virus. dr. spencer heads back to harlem. >> dr. spencer came out on the eve before he was
checked into the hospital of this bowling alley. he held an uber on his phone and then made his way back to upper manhattan. >> and straight ahead, dr. kent bradley the first american to get infected with ebola survive. what is it like to have ebola. dr. brantly will tell you coming up. also a man deported from america twice now accused of executing two sheriff's deputies. shooting both in the head. how did this man get back into the united states twice? laura ingraham in here. >> senator rand paul is here to go "on the record." you're like "nothing can replace brad!" then liberty mutual calls. and you break into your happy dance.
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in isolation fighting ebola. and tonight the first american doctor who contracted ebola is going "on the record." what it was like for him the day he stepped off that plane in atlanta. here is dr. kent brantly "on the record." >> patient for seven weeks and i woke up on a wednesday morning just feeling bad. i felt warm. nothing specific. and, in fact, i didn't even meet the fever criteria that we use for screening patients. but i knew i just didn't feel right. >> so what did you do? >> i stayed home that morning. i called my team leader, dr. lance pyler and i said i think i need to stay home if i felt better by lunchtime. we agreed to touch base later in the day to see 50's getting better. >> doctor showed: so, fever got worse.
it did. lunchtime that day my temperature was 101.4. over the next couple of days climbed to 104.5 and really persisted for 12 or 13 days without coming down to normal temperature. >> i take it you or you suspected you had ebola? >> i did. i didn't think i had ebola. but i was not naive enough to think it was impossible for me to have ebola. >> then your condition continued to deteriorate? >> it did. i stayed in liberia for nine or ten days after i got sick. and by that 8th or 9th day i was near death. >> what -- i mean, you have horrible diarrhea, right? you lose all your fluids, i mean, you hear these horrible stories about people essentially bleeding out. >> i had almost every classic symptom of ebola except existential bleeding. i had the high fever, headaches, muscle aches, extreme fatigue just being really weak and tired.
but i also had blood in my diarrhea. i vomited blood. i had a rash that's classic of ebola. my eyes were bloodshot and red. all the things that you think of when you think of ebola except maybe i didn't have a nose bleed or anything like that. >> now, a doctor who gave you the z map has been on our show as well. did you even know that you were getting it? it was experimental drug? did they say to you we have something that we could try. >> we discussed it a few days before they gave it to me. when they found out that it might be available we discussed it i was able at that time still with a clear mind to say if that's available, yes, i would be willing to receive it understanding that we didn't know if it would kill me or make me better. but then the day that they actually gave it to me, i was so sick and dr. lance said, kent, i want to give you the antibodies and i said okay.
>> and the doctor gave it to you. >> she was the one who was actually in my room taking care of me at that time. >> we all watched when you landed. and the fact that you could walk, that was a big deal. do you remember walking off the plane? i do. i had a high buffer. a lot of people asked me about this. why did you walk out of that ambulance? what message were you trying to send? >> greta, i had no idea that people were watching me. >> here you are walking. you are walking not at a fast clip, the fact that you were vertical was a big deal. >> the person who deserves the credit for that happening right then is that paramedic into was walking with me. he said do you think you can walk into the hospital? i said how far is it? he said well, it's just right here. it's not very far but there are some steps. i said how many steps? more or less than the plane he? said well, it's more than the plane but think are not as steep, not as big, he said if you can't do it, that's fine. we will wheel you around another entrance. if you can walk we are right
next to the door i said okay. let's do it. >> so why does dr. brantly think thomas duncan who died of ebola did not sur is revive at a dallas hospital? much more of my interview with dr. brantly go to gretawire.com. get that answer and more. up next, two police officers executed both shot in the face. their alleged killer illegal immigrant and it gets worse. he was deported twice but he got back in and killed twice. that's next. also, father takes his son to a bronchos game thursday night and at halftime the father vanishes. "on the record" investigates his bizarre disappearance coming up. t. that would be my daughter -- hi dad. she's a dietitian. and back when i wasn't eating right, she got me drinking boost. it's got a great taste, and it helps give me the nutrition i was missing. helping me stay more like me. [ female announcer ] boost complete nutritional drink has 26 essential vitamins and minerals, including calcium and vitamin d to support strong bones and 10 grams of protein
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then he was deported back to mexico again. at some point in time he drossed the border. we don't know. when again, the authorities don't have any information. he operated under multiple identities. he has at least two different identities. and the police at this point believe they know who he is from the fingerprint data base. they are referring to one particular name although he has used aliases in the past. this is what happens all too often in our country and gets little attention. convicted criminals either get deported come back to commit other crimes. or they are released from federal custody for special circumstances as we saw last year and thousands of criminal alien, some violent criminal aliens, including kidnappers, men accuse of sexual asought and people even people charged with homicide come back in our society to commit future crimes. very few people in the media will touch this. >> how you cannot touch it? two police officers are
executed. >> dead. >> separately within -- wasn't even the same incident. one's father was a police officer deputy 26 years to the day was executed himself. >> apparently their families don't count because we have lives turned upside down and lost in this country almost every day sadly at the hands of illegal aliens. it doesn't mean before everyone says are you saying every illegal immigrant commits a crime? no, i'm not. i am saying when you have a porous border and sketchy immigration enforcement and aren't serious about it across the board you are going to have who are risk circumstances. republicans where are they on this i haven't heard any except jeff sessions. >> what do you think about this south carolina democratic state senacalled governor nikki haley something. wait until you hear it is he running against hailey for governor and this is what he called her. >> we are going to he is court wore out the door. we are going to escort her out the door.
[ laughter ] >> think about it y'all. >> called a woman governor a wore -- whore out the door. he did try to walk it back as a a gaffe. >> we are going to escort whore out the door. we're going to escort her out the door. >> >> imagine if you or i said something like this on national -- you made a slip, you would be -- i would be be horrified oh my gosh i did not mean to say something like that. ha ha ha isn't it funny. the little smirking and laughing. nikki haley gone through vicious attacks in the past. and this is kind of a ha ha, isn't it funny. just reminds me what they did with the palin deal, palin tape. and a ridiculing bristol palin or michelle malkin. >> where are the women on this? republican women? democratic women, everybody,
calling a woman governor. >> imagine if rick perry said something like that or scott brown in new hampshire. they would not let him get away with ha ha ha ha. why didn't you shut down those people who were laughing? why didn't you say something about how they shouldn't laugh. boy didn't you pick up the phone and call governor so and so? >> i want to every woman who has used the mantra war on woman to stand up and defend governor nikki haley? it doesn't matter if she a republican. >> conservative women, you are smart, they aren't really women to left wing idealogues they are second class trash because they collaborate with the enemy. the enemy happens to be conservatives or the tea party. >> did he apologize to her? >> i didn't see it if he did. i missed the apology. >> he anyways,. >> conservative women aren't real women to the left they don't count. great being here. >> great radio show. thank you, lauer. >> thank you, love you. >> father and son went to last thursday's game. then the father suddenly disappears at halftime. show one has seen him since.
fox denver reporter mark meredith joins us. mark, absolutely no word? what happened with this father. >> greta, that's a great question. that's what everybody has been trying to figure out since thursday night's game. as you mentioned, this father was at the game with three other people, including his 20-year-old son and then he just vanishes during halftime. today denver police told me that they have witness spotted the man during the third quarter. also from a small town in colorado. he did not have his car down here. he also did not have his cell phone at the game. is he a 53-year-old guy. he wasn't supposed to be very tech savvy so they didn't have any way to get ahold of him. the family that with as with ash with him didn't get suspicious until the end of the game. thinking he was out getting a beer or somewhere else on the concourse. sports authority field. they are starting to get desperate. reached out to media in denver. working with investigators. right now they just don't
have a lot to go off of. >> mark, thank you. it certainly is a bizarre story. thank you, mark. >> and up next, senator rand paul right here and "on the record." senator rand paul is making a big midterm push. who is he fighting for. senator paul will tell you. plus he has something to say about secretary of state hillary clinton going to his home state of kentucky this saturday. that's next. and we are going to take you to the scene where college co-ed hannah graham's remains were found. we are looking for clues left by her killer. the "on the record" team just got access to the area. that's straight ahead. but it doesn't hold me back. i go through periods where it's hard to sleep at night, and stay awake during the day. non-24 is a circadian rhythm disorder that affects up to 70% of people who are totally blind. talk to your doctor about your symptoms and learn more by calling 844-844-2424. or visit my24info.com.
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congress and the american people. november 4th obama's policies are on the ballot. vote to keep u.s. terrorists off u.s. soil. vote republican. >> senator rand paul joins us. before we get to the question, president obama's foreign policy on the ballot. you have an ad coming out for senator pat roberts of kansas. not kentucky but kansas. you are going there tomorrow. why? >> well, the thing is i think most american people would be horrified to know that their tax dollars are sent to countries that late us. so i had an amendment that would have cut off aid to the muslim brotherhood and not that many people supported it. surprisingly up here. pat roberts was one who was a strong enough conservative say, you know what? we shouldn't send any tax dollars to countries who hate us and burn our flagging. >> are you going there tomorrow to campaign for him. >> i will be there tomorrow putting on had ad. six figure any kansas. we produced this ad and it will be on display starting tomorrow in kansas. >> it's a tight race right now. at least one of the sunday nbc marist policy down by one which is the margin of error with mr. ormond, it is
close. people are fooled into thinking he is independent. i see him as someone who isn't being forth right. is he going to vote for harry reid? if he votes for harry reid that means you will never get any taxes lowered and repealed and frankly the economy will still continue to stagnate as far as i'm concerned. >> whether president obama's policies are on the ballot. >> i think absolutely. even he said it the other day. i think this will be a referendum. i think the reason why this election is going to go so poorly for the democrats is it's going to be a referendum on the president's policies and frankly, everything he has touched this year has turned to stone. we still have less jobs in ken can ken than we had six years ago. so, we're not too happy in kentucky. make a difference in kentucky as well. >> what happens if the republican does take the senate. take the house, assuming you keep the house, and the senate what happens then? >> one thing you will see and i see senator mcconnell
at his word we will pass legislation. we will put legislation on the desk of the president and we will see frankly what he will do. some of it frankly will be part way towards what a lot of people in the country want. will there be some immigration reform? yeah. will there be tax reform? yes. will there be regulatory reform? yeah. maybe bringing some jobs home from overseas by lowering taxes and letting american companies bring jobs home? i think all of that will be put on the president's desk and we will find out is the president going to be a lowered or is the president going to be obstructionist. >> back to home state on saturday kentucky. hillary clinton is going there to campaign very close race between senator minority leader mcconnell and alice lund grin grimes. she is well liked in kentucky, right? >> a little too toottle too little too late. there has never been a majority of kentuckians who
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missing uva co-ed hannah graham remains found in a wooded area. former d.c. homicide detective griff jenkins and ted williams investigating. >> here we are on the side of the road where are hannah graham's remains were found. the body was found in the woods behind this cabin which is part of the larger property. this property is for sale. it's owned by a grandma. and we are now getting a first look. walk me through what investigators may have been interested in. what they were looking for and what they were trying to process here. >> if you are dragging a body, you are going to leave certain indentations, with your shoe. if you are carrying a body, there is going to be hairs and fibers that are going to be left on your clothing
hannah was not petite. jesse is a big guy but hannah is not at petite. >> hannah was approximately 6 feet tall right around that. she was rather tall. and if you had to carry her back here, that's certainly carrying a pretty large person back here, especially a person who is limp and perhaps unconscious. so, that is the reason that you would look for the various inten accommodation. if you were carrying, you would see a pulling of the debris, almost a path? >> absolutely. >> did it would have been gone from the small cabin to where the body was found? >> griff, if you are pulling the body, you are dragging the body. you are going to leave path but, at the same time,
you are going to leave physical evidence because as you are doing this, you are shoes, are emerged into the soil. and then you look under the shoes, every item, every item of clothing, every shoe that the authorities know that jesse matthew may have had in his possession, they are checking those shoes because what they want, griff, is they want to be able to find this kind of sole, this kind of material on the clothing of jesse matthew under his automobile. forensically scrubbing those things to try to find a nexus between this area and jesse matthew. >> ted, do we have any sense for whether she was covered
up? hid in anything. creek bed. it's not a creek bed but could she have been under these leaves over here kind of covered up? or was she just out in the open? >> it's my understanding that the deputy sheriff and his team that found her found her out in the open. they observed skeletal remains and observed items of clothing in this area. >> and a nurse thrown into mandatory quarantine in new jersey is out but angry about how she was treated. should she be? i will take this issue off-the-record next. no, that can't happen. that's the thing, you don't know how long it has to last. everyone has retirement questions.
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main roadway. people in the town are facing evacuation. fox will continue tracking this breaking news story let's' all go off-the-record for answer m kaci hickox is not a terrorist. she is not a shoe bomber but a nurse who went to sierra leon. tried to stop ebola from spreading. she risked her life. she obviously has a big heart or she would not be doing this type of work. i have been to refugee camps and cholera camps. those volunteers work 24/7 in the worst possible conditions. my guess when nurse hickox landed at newark airport she was worn out physically and mentally. no doubt had flown all night. then greeted by dysfunctional and panic stricken government. instead of being thanked. she was treated like a criminal. yeah she got mad. do you blame her? i blame president obama and lesser degree governor chris christie. had nurse hickox been
tweeted with the respect she was due instead of a person with the plague i suspect she may not have gotten mad. she may have understood the panic. why the pan nick? presidentgets a good share of tt blame. he didn't do thinks job. he sat on his hands and ignored the world health organization in march and again in august. if he was doing his jobs, he would have put strong rules and policies in effect to meet the predictable crisis. instead we have chaos. that is what nurse hickox walked into when she got off that plane and that's my off-the-record comment tonight. thank you for being with us. see you again tomorrow night right here at 7:00 p.m. eastern. if you can't watch live, you know what to do. dvr. fox news go on the fox news app. watch this any time where fox news go.com. check it out. right now though, go to gretawire.com and answer. this should people return be gawrn to an end or not? >> tell me what you think of my off-the-reported and the
>> scott says publicly shaming for sure. don says used to be going to jail was public shaming. >> amy says i prefer neither. that's why i follow the law. >> very good, amy. >> "fox & friends first" is going to begin shortly -- >> "fox & friends," you mean. >> thanks for watching. good morning. it is monday, september 22. i'm elisabeth hasselbeck. we begin with a fox news alert. police issue an arrest warrant for a person of interest in the case of missing university of virginia student hannah graham. >> i believe jesse matthew was the last person she was seen with before she vanished off the face of the earth. >> plus this morning her emotional parents speaking out for the very first time. >> meanwhile, another fox news alert. three afghan soldiers who were visiting a military training camp here in this country in massachusetts are missing this morning. where are they?
and what kind of a threat do they pose to anybody around there? >> plus this will make your monday. a look at what happens when dogs go under water. yeah. they keep their eyes open, one thing is clear. mornings are better with friends. watch this animation. >> welcome aboard, folks. it's official. say so long to sun screen and hello pumpkin spice latte. today is the first day of fall. >> you make it sound good with the latte. >> put it this way, if you were outside yesterday i think it's time to keep your muscle t-shirts out and your tight little shorts available because i believe that the weather is not giving up on the summer. >> you think there's still tanning potential? >> that's what i'm saying. if you wear your liner in your jacket, i think you're going to be sweaty. >> where did you spend your
sunday? at hooters? >> just sayin'. >> i'm just sayin' too. keep your tight little shorts? >> don't judge me. >> it is the autumnal equinox today, first day of fall and we start with a fox news alert. that person of interest in the case of missing student hannah graham now a wanted man. police in charlottesville, virginia, issued an arrest warrant for jesse matthew. ainsley earhardt joins us with the details. ainsley, didn't the police talk to him for a minute? >> yeah, they did. but now the virginia state police, they're on the hunt again for this guy. his name is jesse matthew. they have a warrant for his arrest charging him with reckless driving. police say over the weekend matthew, who is a person of interest in the disappearance of university of virginia student 18-year-old hannah graham, walked into a police station, spoke to a lawyer, then got into a car and
sped away. police looking for anybody that might have seen this car last friday or saturday. meantime police still know very little about matthew's interaction with graham the night she disappeared. >> i believe jesse matthew was the last person she was seen with before she vanished off the face of the earth. because it's been a week and we can't find her. but somebody knows where she is. >> graham went missing more than a week ago. she was last seen on surveillance video walking into a restaurant with a man believed to be matthew. hannah's parents making an emotional plea to the public. >> this is every parent's worst nightmare. i'm certain that everybody in this room and those watching knows that what happened to hannah could happen to their child. >> more than 1,200 people spent their weekend searching for hannah. police say they will keep
searching until they find her. the miss chief, chief longo, says he doesn't want to get tunnel vision just focusing on one person, on matthew. the chief adds he believes someone knows where hannah graham is and hopefully they will find her. back to you. >> family holding out hope. this also developing yoaf night. a search underway at this hour for three afghan soldiers who disappeared while visiting the united states. peter doocy is live in washington. good morning to you, peter. what and how much of a threat does this pose at the time? >> elisabeth, nobody has seen these three afghan soldiers since saturday night when they were spotted about 20 miles from joint base cape cod at the cape cod mall in hyannis, a normal enough collection of stores that also has a movie theaters and chain restaurants. one of the missing soldiers is a major. the other two are captains.
they were in the united states for u.s. central command regional cooperation exercise, which is a big event that involves 200 people from five countries including 12 soldiers from afghanistan. this event has been going on since 2004 but right now the military is working with local police forces to figure out where these three are. >> each hour that goes by gets a little more concerning. finding out why you can't get in touch with them, why they haven't reached out to somebody, as time goes on it gets more concerning. the other thing is are they the victims of some t violent act. hopefully they extended their weekend and at some point will show up at the base tonight or be found by folks. >> so far we don't have any reason to believe these three missing afghan soldiers are dangerous. they arrived on september 11 in and a massachusetts national guards spokesman
is saying these are senior-ranked soldiers who had permission to come to the u.s. for this event. >> peter, there's always the possibility they simply don't want to go back to afghanistan; right? >> nobody knows. all that they know is they were at the mall. they could have been doing anything. they got stuff from abercrombie to chipotle there. they could have been going for dinner. nobody knows. >> i'll take cape cod over kabul any day. maybe they're realizing that. >> let me ask you this question. what do hillary clinton, former c.i.a. director, chairman of the joint chiefs of staff and now former defense secretary leon panetta have in common? they all suggested president obama arm syrians back in 2012 to avoid the situation we are now in called isis. leon panetta spoke on "60 minutes" about how he now is being vocal and why
president obama's foreign policy is not sitting well with him. >> the real key was how can we develop a leadership group among the opposition that would be able to take control. and my view was to have leverage to do that. we would have to provide the weapons and the training in order for them to really be willing to work with us in that effort. but with virtually his entire national security team unanimous on this, that's not the decision the president made. >> i think the president's concern -- and i understand it -- was that he had a fear that if we started providing weapons, we wouldn't know where those weapons would wind up. my view was you have to begin somewhere. i think in part we paid a price for not doing that in what we see happening with isis. >> the free syrian army needed to be supplied. senator john mccain, lindsey graham said that. it turns out heend --
behind the scenes his whole staff was saying that and the president decided not to do that after taking a walk with somebody. i think it might have been valerie jarrett. so leon panetta, as he sells a book -- i'm interested in that book because he has been a voice of reason in two different situations in very important times. however, you wonder if things had been different if he found a way to do what colin powell did, leak his views through the press. >> leon panetta in the premier of "60 minutes" said we should have armed the rebels back then. he also said he wishes we would have had a residual force there of 8,000. that would have turned the tide and prevent maliki, the guy running the country, headed in the right direction. he went off the rails and now we're all screwed up over there. meanwhile, king abdullah, here in new york city for the u.n. general assembly that starts this week, told
scott pelly as well that isis could have been stopped. listen. >> could the rise of isis have been prevented? >> they could have been prevented if the international community worked harder together to make sure that funding and support to the original groups in syria were not allowed to get to the extent that they were. >> the international community, the united states intervened too late? >> i think we could have done a better job in making sure that earlier on it was identified who the bad people were and action by the international community was taken not to allow that to happen. >> a haunting statement right there by king abdullah. when you hear leon panetta say this will take a long time, reiterating the fact that it will take years and years, perhaps longer, to get rid of isis, they're still funding, they're taxing, receiving donations. they have troops of 40,000
being aided by up to 100,000, according to kurdish intelligence collaborating with them. and that is why the time is now on the other side. >> here's the other thing. jordan almost doubled their population with the syrian refugees and they set up this village in the middle of the desert in between the two countries so it's directly affecting them. if king abdullah said that -- and i understand the president's view that he's afraid of arms getting in the wrong hands, clearly now it would have been a lot better to take that risk. let's see jordan take some troops. let's see egypt take troops. let them start fighting. saudi arabia has to do more than have a base area where the syrian army can train for a year. >> allowing the sunni force to take over; why aren't they doing more? you would expect them to. >> iran wants nothing to do
with the rise in sunnis but iran would like to see the goodbye, the isis exit as would hezbollah. complicated situation. >> yes indeed. about 11 minutes after the top of the hour on this the first day of fall. the equinox. and look who's here. >> the temperatures are matching it. hope you had a good weekend. we have a huge break to tell you about in the case of an accused cop killer on the run. an assault rifle was just found stashed in the woods in pennsylvania. it is believed to belong to eric frein. police believe he was planning to ambush for months, maybe years. it is believed he murdered one state trooper, and injured another. people in the poconos are being told to stay inside, lock your doors and wen dose. five extremely dangerous inmates who escaped from a california prison are back behind bars. a tip led to a 33-year-old
who escaped saturday night by breaking a wind. four other inmates followed him out of that window. they were captured an hour later. inmates on jail on charges including attempted murder and armed robbery. the man who breached the white house in court today. omar gonzalez hopped the front fences and bolted across the lawn friday evening. when secret service agents stopped him, they found that he was armed with a 3.5 inch knife. the iraq veteran's family claims that he sufs from ptsd -- suffers from ptsd and would never hurt anyone. gonzalez faces up to ten years in prison. >> what were you doing after the game? for this player of the seattle seahawks, he was asking his girlfriend to marry him. after the win against the broncos he changed out of his uniform into a dress shirt, kneeled down nid field, popped the question and he did say yes. he then posted off this
photo on instagram showing off the ring. congratulations to him and a double win for him. seattle won. >> congratulations. >> wouldn't it be great if we had that super bowl at metlife stadium. but what a game that was. did you see any of that? >> no. >> that was stunning. how did your daughter let you get away with that not watching the game. >> she wanted to watch indy. we keep that ear to the ground. >> 13 minutes after the top of the hour. coming up, did you have crazy dreams hast night? you're not alone. the science behind why your mind sometimes just runs wild has now been revealed and we'll explain it all. the feds no longer prosecuting illegal immigrants crossing the border. why? we're going to ask a border agent that very question next.
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a major risk to public safety, the feds no longer prosecuting illegal immigrants who cross the border for the first time. get this, the president of the border patrol union for the human sector in arizona joins us now. when did this start
happening? >> it started about a month ago. >> why? >> nobody really knows why. it just came down as a directive that our -- the first time you cross the united states we're no longer going to prosecute you. >> what are you going to do with them? if you capture a man today if they're on that border, where do they go? >> if it's a mexican citizen, we'll return them right back to mexico. >> what if it's not? >> then he would be held if we have bed space for that person. if we don't have bed space to hold him until we can deport him or release him into the country to appear before a judge at a later time. >> when the word gets out you're doing that, you know the flood that's going to be going to the yuma section? >> that's right. we've worked so hard to achieve operational control of our area and to just
give that back is pretty heartbreaking to the agents that worked so hard to do that. >> obviously they're not going to be showing up in court 99.9% of the time. number two, you say if a family goes across they're allowed to keep going section -- keep going, correct? >> depends. we try to get a facility that holds families but because of budget cuts it is hard so a lot get released into the country. >> in 2008 you guys get a fence and border control and things settle down. now the wheels are starting to come off at a time which more attention than ever has been given to the border and more outrage is widespread than ever i can remember it. how do you explain this change in policy? >> i can't explain the change in policy. all i know is that the program worked and it worked very effectively in yuma, arizona, where we were the focus sector for the border patrol in 2006,
2007, and now we're, we have operation control and we've maintained that for the last eight years just to see that all thrown away. >> you're doing a good thing telling us about it. also it's good that senators mccain and flake wrote a letter to the attorney general to tell us what's going on here. hopefully we can change that policy. thanks so much. coming up straight ahead, isis terrorists making a hard push to recruit western women. get this, it is working. why they say dozens of girls join their fight every day. did you have crazy dreams last night? next time don't hit the snooze. we're going to go inside the brain to explain. next. next. ♪ [ hoof beats ]
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got quick international headlines for you on this monday morning. china and iran getting together for joint naval exercises in the persian gulf. the chinese visit to iran is an example of the growing ties between the countries. china's fleet commanders say the visit will deepen a mutual understanding. the first time chinese naval ships visited any. isis, it's apparently in need of women. the terror group using social media to recruit women to marry their fighters and have kids there. it was just last week that we learned of two austrian
teenage girls headed over to join the isis cause. social postings telling women they will have to, quote, have kids and cook. that's the news. elisabeth? >> did you have any crazy descreems -- dreams last night? there is a new study explaining why. joining is the director of sleep medicine at meridian health. good morning to you. this was a new study. what did your study find? >> researchers in the u.k. hooked up sleepers to sleep sensing monitors and found dreams actually have a specific pattern as we go through the night. they start out very ordinary. as the night progresses they get fantastical, the dreams we're used to describing. >> you start out practical. if you just read a book or saw a television show, does it relate to that?
>> ordinary event happening throughout your day. as the night goes on they get illogical, not related to reality and very have i i -- very vivid. when you're asleep the part of your brain that's active is the center of emotion. there's a lot of activity in the brain but we believe it helps us maintain emotional stability. >> to dream? >> this pattern to the dreaming. >> i myself was completely unaware of this pattern. >> this pattern is detected through c.a.t. scans and studies, 18 in this case. what about when someone says i didn't have a dream last night? does that mean they're not progressing mentally? >> we all dream but your ability to remember the dreams is not so good. you quickly lose the insight of that dream. if you awaken somebody immediately after the dream you can keep that data. now we're moving into a time where we're gathering data like we never did
before and actually see into dreams and it's giving us an understanding that you can even control dreams and physicians are using that to treat anxiety, nightmares and help learning. >> there is meaning there. what about snoozing or hearing the alarm clock? you come out of a dream and get back quickly. does that cycle start again? interrupting a dream cause damage? >> you have to consider dreaming is allowing the brain to reorganize, restructure. if it's helping with emotional stability imagine how that might be impairing your relationships during the day. we have to make sleep a priority and not hit the snooze button and get the right amount of sleep each night. >> thanks as we dream tonight. coming up, a huge exit at the department of homeland security. why high-level workers are quitting at a record pace.
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if you could see us we want to see you. the millers write we watch "fox & friends" from our motor home. >> big bird writes i watch every morning in my garage. >> if you watch that, you go out there. nelson from florida writes this is where i watch you guys every morning, here in my man cave. i'm always seated and ready by the start of the show. you guys are great and there is no way i can get through my day without starting my day without all of you. i really like brian kilmeade best. >> i don't think it said that. >> i ad libbed a little. >> that guy sure has a lot of signs. i wonder if his area has any signs left. you can buy those. >> keep them calling. we love to see all of you in the morning. >> #betterwithsigns.
>> caught on camera. look at this. a mid air emergency. this happened over atlanta. it looks like the plane's engines are smoking. see that, the trails it. that's actually thousands of gallons of fuel being dumped from this delta flight. a pilot on the ground recorded the whole thing. >> fuel being dumped from the airplane. this is the first time i actually saw by that load actually dump fuel. >> the plane was going from atlanta to japan when one of its engines blew. the plane landed safely and no one was hurt. a stunning new report. top-level officials are leaving the department of homeland security at alarming rates and it may actually put your security at risk. over the past four years employees have left d.h.s. twice as fast as the rest of the government. employees are reportedly saying it's because of a
dysfunctional work environment, low morale and the lure of private contractors. a major tuberculosis scare at a texas hospital. more than 700 infants may have been exposed to the disease over the past year by a hospital employee. the worker in question worked in the nursery may also have exposed 40 other employees. the bacteria that causes t.b. can lay dormant for years which is why babies born at the hospital over the past 12 months are being asked to undergo screening. incredible video catches the moment a huge mountain lion jumps through the bushes as police chase it through a salt lake city neighborhood. the animal had been spotted several times throughout the day. police shot it with a tranquilizeer but that didn't do too much good. the mountain lion ran over a mile before being caught. >> never growled. never postured or aggressive posturing. it just wanted to run away. yet it's very capable of
going over six and eight foot fences. it covered a lot of ground. >> police found the animal hiding under a trailer before grabbing it. the mountain lion will be relocated. look at that. those are your headlines. now let's turn to maria molina on the first official day of fall. we welcome it. >> good to see you this morning. for the first day of fall we are going to be dealing with showers and thunderstorms. that's going to be across portions of the southeastern united states and especially across the state of florida. you're really going to need umbrellas later today. early this morning we're already seeing showers and storms across parts of new mexico, colorado and those will persist throughout the afternoon hours. those current temperatures across parts of the great lakes, the midwest and into the northeast really already feeling like fall. you're in the 50's this morning. cleveland in the 40's. in chicago and minneapolis. take a look at the afternoon high temperatures. this is coming up later today. in cleveland you're not
going to make it out of the 50's today. in new york city, meanwhile 67 for the high. across portions of texas, in the 80's and 90's. the official start of fall is coming up tonight at 10:29 p.m. eastern time. that is when it is the autumnal equinox. all downhill from here. we're going to be seeing temperatures plunging and heading into winter eventually. but for now, fall. >> thank you very much. >> hometown boy from long island, new york, taking the world boxing, world by storm and preparing to enter the ring against welter weight champ manny pacquiao. here's chris algieri. congratulations on your success. >> thank you. >> this is your w.b.l.
belt? >> this is my baby. >> you take it everywhere you go? >> only for special events. >> everybody goes to work with a briefcase but that's how you go to work. >> how do you protect yourself? the biggest fight of your life coming up november 22 against pacquiao. >> it's on november 22, 9 p.m. >> how do you go into that mentally? what is your focus? >> training camp already has begun. i'm going to las vegas to train and will be 100% prepared. >> does it matter who's in there with you? strategy always changing? >> absolutely. you have to approach it in a specific way. manny has a specific style. >> you only started fighting a few years ago. you were kick boxing prior to that. you have a college degree. you graduated from stony
brook. boxers don't usually have this kind of background. >> that's how i approach the sport. i approach it cerebrally. >> you've got a degree in health care which means you can beat somebody up and then nurse them back to health. >> knock them out, throw them a card. >> you have a masters in nutrition? what is i don't go-to pre-fight, post-fight. >> i like oatmeal. oatmeal and eggs. >> this is what you eat at home where you still live with your family? >> yes, i live at home with my family in long island. >> aren't you thinking about leaving? >> my mom and dad aren't happy about it. >> your mom wants to cook for you. >> can you show me a signature move? >> we're going to pretend we're all righties. put that foot in front. hands up against our face.
hands up, stay pretty. we're going to learn a one, a two and a three. one is our left jab straight out in front. our two is our right hand, turn all the way through. we're going to throw a throw which is our left hook. >> one, two -- >> start with the left. one, two, three. excellent. again. >> one, two, three. >> you've done this before. >> the thing is you're fighting pacquiao, he's a little smaller than you, little lighter than you, much more experienced than you. i'll be pacquiao. i'll help you out. >> you're going to switch your feet. >> did he tell you that? >> our hands are lined up a little differently. with manny, he's big on throwing this hand, so i'm going to be constantly moving this way, going this
way, hitting him constantly. lots of movement. >> this is going to take more than just one lesson. congratulations. >> thank you. >> coming up, remember those fights between passengers on crammed airplanes? one airline is making skies more friendly to people and meet the judge who puts people on the corner of shame. ♪ ♪ 't lame♪ ♪but this... ♪takes my breath away
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listed on the applications did not match their tax returns. home depot offering free identity protection services and credit monitoring for a year to the 56 million customers affected by its data breach. the airbus is coming to the rescue. the plane maker announcing a new design that will shrink bathrooms to make space in the cabin more comfortable. >> how can they possibly shrink bathrooms? they are so small already. a missouri judge had it with lawbreakers disrespecting the court but instead of sending them to jail, he's sending repeat offenders to the corner of shame. joining us from st. louis is judge richard scobie. good morning, judge. people who simply would not show up in court would not pay their fines and, that really bugged you, didn't
it? >> well, con tem of court is my -- contempt of court is my power to force people to do and comply with my orders. when they didn't do that, my choice is either an additional fine which wasn't seeming to work, or incarceration which is pretty severe. so i came up with this tool, and the policy that if you don't come to court, you don't pay your fines -- and it's usually a combination of both -- you can have the option of instead of fines or jail, you can have the option of wearing the sign. >> we've got an image of a guy who is actually wearing the sign there in missouri. and what it says is won't come to court, won't pay my fine so judge skouby ordered me to pay this fine. it rhymes. >> i didn't entend for it to come out exactly like that. this isn't a laughing matter. without judicial orders being followed the law is only words. it is my responsibility to make sure people not only
respect but follow court's orders and i take that very seriously. and it seemed to me like there was quite a few of them who weren't taking it seriously. i think i have their attention now. >> no kidding. now i would imagine when somebody gets an order you've got to show up in judge skouby's courtroom, they show up, don't they? >> the information i'm receiving from the police department and from the general consensus after court was nobody wants to wear the sign. certainly they prefer that over going to jail. and i don't want to make somebody who is a nonviolent offender lose their job, but i do want to remind them and it is my responsibility to remind them, you're not supposed to do this again. >> it is the law. you've got to follow the law. what's the reaction been from your town? >> kind of mixed. i think a lot of people like it. some people strongly dislike it. but i'm not running a public opinion poll. i have a job to do.
my job is to foster and reenforce respect for the judicial system and that's what i intend to do. >> so far just the one guy holding the sign has stood this on the shame corner. how many other people are potentially going to wind up holding that there in your town? >> like i said, if the promise of complying has greatly increased since the first gentleman had to wear the sign, it is a problem that potentially could affect right now on my docket maybe 25 people. and that number rotates. i mean, we do roughly 75 to 100 tickets a month. the number of people who don't pay their fines just keeps getting larger and that creates a big burden on our court clerk. it almost doubles her work. i'm not here to save the taxpayers money. it's good when i can. but the lack of respect is what concerns me the most. we live in a country where we were all raised to
believe in this but it seems like it's kind of gotten lost in late times. >> you know what? you're exactly right, judge, and you're doing something to try to get people's attention. pay your fine, come to court. it's what you're supposed to do. that's why they call it the law. we'd love to have folks weigh in on our facebook page. we're asking is this fine or over the line? judge, thank you very much. thanks for joining us from your town out in missouri. 12 minutes before the top of the hour. coming up, this war vet has seen all sorts of mayhem on the battle but his wife having a baby on the side of a highway, that's a whole new one. hear from him straight ahead. what do you get when you put a camera, a pool and 1,500 puppies together? a dangerous amount of cute photos. meet the guy behind the pics coming up.
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go ahead, elisabeth. say something else. >> you can tell by the millions of postings on social media that humans love taking pictures of their dogs. check out this angle by our next guest of dogs learning to swim. you can also help them find a loving home because everyone needs a loving home.
out with his new book, photographer seth joins us now. good morning to you. great work. why did you want to do this? 1500 puppies in the water? >> well, i thought i really wanted to bring awareness about the importance of water safety for our pets. all these little guys know how to swim. you put them in the water, they'll start doggy paddling, but don't know how to get out. it's so important for us to teach our pets how to get out. you want to get them adopted and nothing is cuter than a puppy. >> what about cuter than a puppy? underwater. how did you take them underwater? >> through the course of swimming lessons with the puppies, some of them came out and got lessons, they learned about how to be confident and how to get out. but some of them decided that they loved it. little olympic swimmers, dive not guilty and going under water.
>> these puppies here are all up for adoption right now. we want to find them great homes. we have charlie, who is a border collie terrier mix that you see here. >> i think this is a border collie mix right here. >> he's staying within his border, we appreciate this. leslie, the hound shepherd mix. they're not responding to anybody's name. is that correct? >> yeah. >> but they are having fun here. what a great purpose to be able to keep the dog safe, but get them great homes. you have a calm spirit, this guy right here. >> let's look at some more pictures, but keep in mind, what's the response been of these pictures? >> it's been overwhelmingly positive. as it turns out, people like puppies. puppies are my favorite creature on the face of the earth. they bring us joy. >> bring us through this shot. this is in florida. a little 11-week-old lab puppy.
he swam five feet down to the bottom of the pool. super slow mo. but at 11 weeks. it all started with swimming lessons. he decided wow, i love the water. i love playing this game of fetch. we're having fun. >> i didn't know there was instant replay in puppy water polo, but there is. >> what a challenge to undertake. i remember my lab jumping into the water. >> excuse me. i'mi'm sorry, elisabeth. i think by this ear here he is the guilty party. >> look at this video here. what was the biggest challenge doing this? >> the biggest challenge really was -- there wasn't really a challenge at all, to be honest with you. i'm a swim teacher more than a photographer. >> that puppy looks like he just got out of the uterus. >> i love these little creatures more than anything. it's about being patient. so i guess it wasn't too much of a challenge. my only challenge was i was sad when i was done with the book. >> you are a sweet guy, seth.
look at this. you really spent so much time in the water with them. you see this with adults and children. but to do it with puppies, that's a big heart that you have. >> yeah. >> millions of people are thanking you for that. >> we got to keep these little guys safe. >> one thing you don't want to do is put three puppies in a small little cage. this is like summer slam 2016. >> i don't even hear the noises. >> listen, if you want to help and you want to adopt these puppies, contact the north shore animal league. thank you, seth. where do we go? >> any book store. support your local independent bookstores. the book is "underwater puppies." >> thank you. >> now they calmed down, now that we're done. let me tell you what's coming up. the senate minority leader just one of the heavy hitters stopping by donald trump's office this week. why? he will fill us in exclusively
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good morning. it is monday, september 22. i'm elisabeth hasselbeck. we begin with a fox news alert. police issue an arrest warrant for a person of interest in the case of missing uva student hannah graham. >> i believe jesse matthew was the last person she was seen with before she vanished off the face of the earth. >> wow. statement there for sure. this morning her emotional parents speaking out for the first time. and another fox news alert. three afghan soldiers who were visiting military training camps on cape cod are missing this morning. where are they? and do they pose a threat? we'll tell you what we know. maybe you thought about doing this.
this reporter certainly did. >> as for this job, well, not that i have a choice, but [ bleep ]. >> wow. we edit the beep. wow. we never thought about doing it. mornings are better with friends. >> as i just said, i had no idea that was coming up. i was not expecting that. >> it appears she quits on camera. >> that's what i would say, as opposed to the resignation letter, which is too old-fashioned. >> so much for the two weeks. >> whatever happened to plain take this job and shove it? >> i don't know. i guess that's one of the good or bad things about live television. >> we'll tell you the story behind the story. plus donald trump, who joins us every monday morning, will be with us in 90 seconds after the headlines with heather. >> i want to know what donald
trump would do if he was faced with an plea like that. >> he fires a lot of people. >> manhunt is underway. we begin with this. right now for three afghan soldiers who vanished here in the united states. the major and two captains arrived at a massachusetts military base on september 11 for training. they went missing during a trip o a cape cod shopping mall saturday and the military is working with local police to try and figure out where the three went. >> each hour that goes by gets more concerning. finding out why you can't get in touch with them, why they haven't reached out to somebody, as time goes on, it gets more concerning. the other thing is were they victims of some type of violent act? so hopefully they've extended their weekend and they come back tonight. >> here is the thing that you should know, the military insists the men were fully vetted before they arrived and they do not pose a threat to the
public. a huge break is being called in the case of an accused cop killer on the run. assault rifle was just found stashed in the woods in pennsylvania. and it is believed to belong to eric frien. police believe he was planning the ambush for months, maybe even years. it's believed he seriously injured one state trooper and murdered another. this morning people who live in the poconos are being told to stay inside, lock your doors and windows. virginia state police busy now on the hunt for jesse matthew, a warrant for his arrest has been arrest after he was named a person of interest in the disappearance of hannah graham. over the weekend, matthew walked into a police station, spoke with a lawyer, and then got into a car and sped away. graham, who has been missing over a month, was last seen on surveillance video with a man believed to be matthew. and a brave marine corps veteran says that he was absolutely terrified while
helping his wife give birth inside a car on the side of a busy california freeway. he was heading to visit his family with his wife and their three children when sandra suddenly goes into labor. he immediately pulled over and called 911 for help. >> i don't think anyone can ever top a story like this for her. she's going to be the one going to school, tell me something about yourself. i was born on the side of a freeway. >> little savannah weighing 11 pounds, 6 ounces. mom and baby are doing fine. for that marine veteran, his best mission yet. >> that's right. >> all right. thank you very much. every monday at this time, donald trump joins us from somewhere in the world and today he joins us from -- where are you, mr. trump? >> in new york. >> good place. i'm sure you were watching "60 minutes." they premiered i believe their 47th season opener. they had leon panetta on, the
former secretary of defense. we're going to play a sound bite. he says everybody in the room, he, the secretary of defense, hillary clinton and secretary of state, c.i.a. director, the chairman of the joint chiefs all told barak obama to arm the syrian rebels. but the president, he was much smarter than them. now we're in trouble. listen to this. >> the real key was how can we develop a leadership group among the opposition that would be able to take control? and my view was to have leverage to do that. we would have to provide the weapons and the training in order for them to really be willing to work with us in that effort. >> but with virtually his entire national security team unanimous on this, that's not the decision the president made. >> i think the president's concern, and i understand it -- was that he had a fear that if we started providing weapons, we wouldn't know where those weapons would wind up.
my view was you have to begin somewhere. i think in part we paid a price for not doing that in what we see happening with isis. >> what's your reaction to him saying that now? >> well, i'm not that surprised because that's him. i will say that now we are arming people, but now we have no idea who they are. they're all splintered up and they will eventually probably join isis and they'll have awful our weapons. we'll give them hundreds of millions and billions of dollars worth of weapons and they've taken them from the iraqi soldiers that we trained and they have our tanks and they have our guns and they have our missiles and they have everything else we gave them. they'll end up, isis, whoever, the bad group is at the time, will end up with whatever we give now. but it's sort of interesting, at that one point in time you really did have a strong rebel group and they were identify annual. now they're not identifiable and we're going to be doing it. he made a mistake. he makes lots of mistakes. >> i hear you mention millions and billions, mr. trump. the head of the kurdish
intelligence, we're going to play the clip for you in a minute, he explained how much money we're actually talking about, how much money, how much power isis has, where they're getting it exactly. i want you to listen to this and explain how concerned this makes you. >> generates equivalent to $6 million daily by the selling of oil, taking taxes from people, ransoms and still getting donations. >> you talked about donations. >> many people who believe in this extremist ideology previous that it's their duty to donate money to this organization. >> that's been coming from where? >> different countries actually. >> in the gulf states? >> some in the gulf states. >> $6 million a day, that will keep them going forever. >> if they're not stopped. >> a lot of money. >> i've been talking about for years, elisabeth, for years the oil in iraq and they've taken over a lot of that oil.
i said keep it because somebody else will take it over and they won't be our friends and you had no idea that this was going to be happening. but i did. i've always said it. i said keep the oil. some people would say, what a terrible thing. this is a sovereign country, mr. trump. how can you say such a terrible thing? it's a sovereign country. give me a break. so i said keep the oil. i said it on your show every time you gave me a chance to say it. now they have the oil and that's the story. we made it possible for them because we are very, very stupid. we have very, very foolish or stupid or nigh each -- i don't know what the word would be, but it's one of those three -- leaders. maybe all three combined. but keep the oil. we went in there, to the victor belong the spoils. and keep the oil and i said it over and over again and now they're taking the oil and they're going to be nice and rich and they already are nice and rich. >> we know this, they're selling it on the black market, undercutting the market, so people are buying it illicitly, which will make it harder to
stop. now politics, big week last week for chris christie as a federal investigation revealed that he did not have anything to do with closing down the bridge in the george washington traffic problem when people were backed um and people that you knew were backed up, stuck on that bridge. he had nothing to do with it. they feasted on chris christie, everybody, especially a certain network two blocks away, for weeks, maybe even months. but they didn't really even bother covering his exoneration. >> first of all, it's a good step for chris. it's a big step. it's a very positive thing. but i saw it the other day. i was reading the paper like on a saturday and i saw this little article back on page 22 that this had happened and i said wow, what a difference. it was front page news all over the place and then when they find out what they found out, and i don't know that they've actually announced it from the federal standpoint. but it seems to be out there and certainly it was not covered very big, which is not a very fair situation. >> they covered almost 90
minutes, an hour and a half there in the first few days. >> it was a very small story and a lot of people think that was unfair. >> they were just trying to destroy him so he would not be the guy who squares off against hillary clinton. now it looks like he's got the green light. a lot of people who would like help from donald trump have been coming to you over the last couple of weeks. tell us a little bit about who you're hosting over there. >> i do. i have a lot of people that want to run for office or are running for office. i've had a great track record. i do a lot of robo calls. they don't even want money. they say, my robo is listened to more than anybody else's robo, meaning people don't just hang up the phone. sort of interesting. but a lot of people, mitch mcconnell is coming up today who i've been supporting. i think it's very important because they have to take -- you have to take back the senate. you have to end obamacare. you have to just absolutely take
back the senate and you have to do it quickly. this is the one opportunity. i think the republicans are going to do very well. but the mitch mcconnell race is very important and if i were in kentucky, i can tell you, with all of mitch's tenure and all of the money he brings back to kentucky, i heard one person saying, oh, it's unfair to bring so much money back to kentucky of the well, i wish we had that in new york. i wish we had that elsewhere because frankly, if i'm in kentucky, i love all the money coming back into kentucky. but he gets that because of his power and because of his tenure. it would be very, very foolish to give that up if you're from kentucky. i think he's going to do fine. >> senator scott brown a lot of people thought was a long shot. now is neck and neck in many poll. >> he wants support. scott brown is coming up to see me. a lot of people come up to see me. my record, as you know, is very unbleepished. mitt romney, he had six states that he was losing and i did some phone calls and i did some robo calls and all of those six
states he -- this was in the primary -- all of those six states he won. so a lot of people know that and they found out -- even turner when he ran for congress, if you remember the first time, when he ran for elliott, whatever. >> wiener. >> wiener. he ran against a democrat. he had no chance. he was down ten points. i did a robo and he ended up winning and he said a speech and he said i want to thank donald trump. he won in wiener's territory, which is impossible practically for a republican. so they come up to see me and if i can help and if i like the people and if i believe in the people, i will take the time and do what i have to do. >> of course, if the people out there would like to follow you on twitter, you got hundreds of thousands. he is at realdonaldtrump. >> that's right. thanks very much. >> thank you very much. >> see you next monday. coming up, breaking news from the case of that missing university of virginia student, hannah graham. how her case could be tied to the disappearances of other
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fox news alert. police in the commonwealth of virginia issued an arrest warrant for a person of interest in the disappearance of hannah graham. detectives say 32-year-old jesse matthew, a nursing assistant at a nearby hospital, may have invited hannah into his car the night she disappeared. >> i believe hannah graham left the restaurant with jess matthew. i believe that. in fact, i believe that jesse matthew was the last person she was seen with before she vanished off the face of the earth. >> this arrest warrant is not connected to hannah's disappearance, per say. rather for speed egg way from the police station when police started asking questions. former l.a.p.d detective mark furman joins us now from sandy point, idaho. mark, so this guy is named as a person of interest. he goes into the police station
and says yeah, you're looking for me, right? i want to talk to a lawyer. they find him a lawyer. the lawyer talks to him for a little bit. next thing you know, he gets in the car and drives like a bat out of hell and that's why there has been an arrest warrant, because it was such a dangerous trip on the highway. the police decided we're not going to follow him. what does that say to you about the status of jesse l.j. matthew >> to me, it seems that there is frustration and anger and he'sls inability to help himself. he gets an attorney. he's basically thrown a lawyer block in the detectives' way. he's using that lawyer to not talk to the police, not cooperate with the police. it's a frustrating position for him because he probably knows exactly what happened after 1:00 o'clock that morning with hannah graham and i believe he was the last person to see hannah. >> okay. so he doesn't want to talk to them right now. he's eventually going to have to
face the music and talk to them. >> not necessarily. he can invoke his privilege and they could go down the whole process. he could be indicted for any amount of charges, including murder and never talk to the police and never utter a word. but the police do want to interrogate him and if he has nothing to hide, he should do that. if it was an innocent contact with hannah graham, he should say that so they can move away from him. but i don't think they're able to. he is definitely the suspect in focus in this case. >> sure. also this particular area has a history of about a dozen women who have gone missing over the last five years or so. that's not to suggest there is a serial killer there, but something's going on. >> well, you don't necessarily have to suggest there is a serial killer. there is certainly a problem. if you have multiple suspects that are using a university or a place where young women frequent
and they're using that to find victims, you want to connect up how they contact the victims, just what kind of case you have. if you have cases where the victim has never been -- >> i've got a feeling we're having a little problem with the satellite right there. mark fuhrman joining us from sandy point talking about the missing university of virginia student, hannah graham. coming up, first we told you about isis trying to recruit young women. now our boys using video games to turn them into terrorists? it's true. not just a game. we'll tell but it. a scary story for dog owners. thousands of pets getting sick with potentially deadly illnesses. what you need to watch out for coming up. ♪ ♪
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other dogs am and this could involve you and your pet. dozens are dead, countless others are sick. mark is the vice president and chief of medical staff at north shore animal league and is here to discuss it. welcome. >> thank you. >> we brought the same stunt puppies from earlier in the show here. playing the role of very frisky dogs. so these are fun dogs, but what happens if these dogs aren't vaccinated and what is happening to these other dogs? >> parvo is not a new virus. it's been around for 40-plus years. we treat it quite a bit at north shore animal league. the challenge is lately we've seen more cases in the owned community. this is typically a problem of unvaccinated young puppies and we're seeing more older dogs getting the disease. >> they start vomiting and sick. you got to act quickly because they have it. once they have it, can you stop it? >> yes. with aggressive treatment, survival rates can be upwards of 90%. the problem is it takes a long period of time in the hospital
and it's a lot of money. >> how do they get it? >> honestly, it's shed in the stool of infected animals and others can get it by sniffing or licking the stool, or stepping in it and grooming themselves. >> and then can it go from dog to dog? >> it's very, very contagious. especially in a closed environment where they're dog. >> we asked to you give us points how to stop it. here we go. vaccination, 100% effective. get your dog down there. >> it's nearly 100% effective. the most important thing with vaccination is keeping up with the vaccine protocols which your vet recommends. >> right. you got to continue it and go all the way with the puppies, right? >> exactly. requires boosters every one to three years. >> and there you go. so here we have these things happening if your dog is getting sick, you got to act quickly and now you're seeing it more and more because people perhaps are look to cut costs and thinking, my dog is fine. do we really have to spend a few hundred dollars on vaccinations
that he probably doesn't need? >> that's a valid point. but it's a drop in the bucket compared to what the cost of treating the disease if your dog were to get it. >> just for the record, these puppies on twice, we have to double their fee. this is going to damage our budget. and i believe this one started it. there we go. now watch how calm they get. it worked. doctor, thanks so much. >> thanks. coming up, a major development in the search for a cop killer. the clue they just found that has police closing in fast. and get this, maybe you thought about doing this in your life. quitting your job. but how about doing it live on television? >> and for this job, well, not that i have a choice, but [ bleep ]. >> wow. we're playing that tape straight ahead. i don't know what her job search will be like, but i would wait for some of the hoopla to die
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fox news alert now. a break in the search for an accused cop killer still on the run. now cops revealing they found a suspect's weapon stashed in the woods. >> wtxf reporter steve keely is live in pennsylvania with the developing details. good morning to you. what do we know at this point? >> reporter: well, we don't know anything new at this point.
we just know that it's day ten for the newest man and member of the f.b.i.'s ten most wanted and it's been rainy, raw and real cold all night. rougher conditions for the first time for this slow and so far safe search as the hunt for the man who made this most wanted list is still out here in the woods for a tenth day. despite erroneous reports of a shootout friday night and police having pin add specific house, police said in their latest update, they have not had any contact with him. but she showed off these pictures of an assault rifle and ammo magazines that they believe he stashed for possible later use. since they all believe he had two high powered rifles with him, he likely has the other one with a sniper scope that he likely used to shoot the troopers ten days ago and one that they can likely fire from far away with deadly accuracy, making the search for him one where agents, troopers have to watch every step they're taking,
over 250 miles of mountains and thick woods here. >> we know that frien prepared and planned extensively for months and maybe years. he planned his attack and his retreat. however, we believe we are closing in on him. >> while they think he was watching that trooper barracks for many months before he fired those fatal shots that killed the one trooper and critically wounded the other. as far as life goes here back to normal, not quite. schools are still closed up here. they did lift the ban on telling everybody to shelter in place and stay in their houses. they're saying if you have to go out, go about your normal lives, but if you don't have to go out, stay in as much as you can. don't go out in the woods. bow hunting season started here today. they said try to put off your hunting plans today and stay inside. even if it's daylight like right now, keep your doors locked. >> all right. steve keely where they're looking for eric frein wanted in
connection with the murder of a trooper. >> specific warning to those in the area. now we'll turn to heather childers who has some headlines for us. >> yes. we begin with this. following two serious security incidents. the white house is beefing up security. this is the man who jumped the fence and got inside, has his day in court. omar gonzalez hopped the front fences, bolted right across the lawn friday evening. when secret service agents stopped him, they found that he was armed with a 3 1/2 inch knife. the iraq veteran's family claims that he suffers from ptsd and he would never hurt anyone. gonzalez faces up to ten years in prison. a stunning new development, a reporter to tell you about. top level officials are leaving the department of homeland security at alarming rates and it could be putting our security at risk. the report found that employees have left dhs twice as fast as the rest of the government in the past four years.
some of the reasons? they say dysfunctional work environment, low morale, private contractors are offering more money to work for them. here in new york city, hundreds of thousands of activists spent the weekend marching for climate change, including actor leonardo dicaprio. leo went from green to an angry red when reporters began to question him about his personal habits. fox news contributor michelle fields tweeting this photo after asking him about his personal jets and yacht. yes, that one. nearly 500 feet, $500 million, this is the yacht that leo took to this year's world cup and you can't exactly call that environmentally friendly. not really. and making an entrance, right, and then there is making an exit. one tv reporter in alaska showing us the difference when she quits on live television. >> and as for this job, well, not that i have a choice but [
bleep ], i quit. >> okay. former ktva reporter reporting on the local cannabis story when she revealed she's the club's owner. yes. it gets more bizarre. she will be dedicating all her time to legalizing pot in alaska >> i thought i had some rough talking. how do you as an anchor pick up after that? start advertising for a job. just go okay, there will be a weather position. >> thanks, heather. now, maria molina is welcoming the first day of fall which happens tonight after dark, doesn't it? >> yes, that's right, 10:29 is the first official time of fall and the official start of that hit series "gotham," 8:00 p.m. eastern time on of course. i have a bunch of my friends with me. they're all dressed alike, the
characters, the penguin from "batman." we're all here to kick off the premiere of gothham city coming up at 8:00 p.m. eastern time on fox. they all brought their umbrellas. we don't need them today in new york city, but we do have them here. hey, guys. good morning. let's go ahead and take a look at the weather conditions across the country because we are going to need those umbrellas through some parts of the country, especially across the southeastern united states and in parts of florida. that's what we're going to be looking at. showers and storms also possible across parts of new mexico, colorado, and also western texas. we're already seeing them early this morning. temperature wise, you're at 50 degrees in minneapolis. 46 in chicago. 52 in cleveland. it's already feeling like fall out there. take a look at those highs. well below average. you're ohm going to be in the 50s in cleveland and upper 60s in chicago.
texas, always on the hot side. 80s and 90s widespread there. and tonight kicks off the official start of fall at 10:29 p.m. eastern time. let's head back inside. i have my friends here, the penguin look alike. >> the whole gotham thing takes place in new york city. did we shoot it there? >> what town is that? >> manhattan? >> it surely looks like it. >> i don't know where it was shot. do any of you know where "gotham" was shot? it was shot in new york city. confirmation. >> there you go. >> authenticity right there. almost 100,000 twitter followers does gothham have. >> mark, could we look at that shot again? are they still standing up there with -- can you have ted pull out a little? see, when maria put up the t, it spelled gothham. but for a while the message was
go ham. >> not enough people are supporting ham. >> all right. go ham. >> lots of fans out there. >> i wonder if we gave them a few minutes how many different words they could come up with. umbrella scramble. coming up, an amazing show of courage from complete strangers. >> oh, my god! look at that! look at that! oh, my god! yes! >> one of the men who jumped in to save a life is here with us this morning. and can you name all three branches of government? well, should you have to be able to in order to vote? that's the debate that happens next, brian. first on this day it's time for our question of the day. born on this day in 1958, this popular italian opera singer lost his sight at the age of 12. who is he? be first with the correct answer. you'll get something really
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group working to pass this rule in utah. thanks for being with us this morning here. whitney, should this citizenship test, should it be required to graduate high school? >> i think civics education is a huge important issue. but i think requiring a test to measure if we've actually improved civic knowledge is a band-aid. it doesn't address the problem. we're in the middle of learning that standardized testing is limiting some children from achieving their full potential and we want to add another test as a measurement mechanism? i think we're missing the root of the problem here. engaging kids with civics and with government rather than giving them another arbitrary test. >> okay. so i'll let you respond to that. you came here, emigrated from chile in the '80s. what do you say? >> i think we need to do everything that we can to engage our new generation of students so they can be involved in
civics. i think it's human nature not to study, not to learn, if we can put it away. i think if you ask them to complete a test, it will create an incredible conversation among family members. i think it's a good step. >> what about if we took it one step further as i just mentioned into voting? should you have to answer -- i mean, the majority of these questions, if not by graduation of high school, but by the time you vote? whitney? >> i mean, i know a lot of people that probably could get a perfect score on their driving test, but put them hyped the wheel and -- behind the wheel and it doesn't mean they're a good driver. we need to go back and look at the basis of this problem. have we made civics education a priority in the classroom? have we equipped teach tore engage kids in the topic. i teach aide grade, they were debating the constitutionality about obamacare and that taught me so much more about what they could do and more from a pen and paper test. >> should it be required?
>> i think personally that anything that you can do to insure that our young people, our families are involved in civic learning, the history of our country is a positive. furthermore, how can you go into planning what the generation will do in the future if you're not prepared and understand where we have been? personally i've taken my daughters to voting with me and i think it's critical. you can not be engaged without having the full knowledge and understanding of your nation. >> more meaningful measure when you vote perhaps. so some test examples here, who is in charge of the executive branch, when you look at the number of answers right, it's disheartening. the house of representatives has how many voting members? the answer is 435. who wrote the declaration of independence? thomas jefferson is the answer in case you're wondering at home. but when you look at how many people get those answers wrong,
how concerning is it to you that those very people are voting? >> well, personally, that's why i think it's so critical that we begin this conversation. i think this is the step -- one step in the right direction. that's why we're asking local government, local state to decide what they want to do with this. and obviously -- i wouldn't begin to understand how we could be engaged citizens and voting if we don't know the history, how our government works, and i think this is something very important for all of us as americans. >> we want to know what everyone thinks out there who is watching right now at "fox & friends." we want to thank our guests for joining us today for this very civilized debate. thanks. >> thank you. >> shoot us an e-mail, facebook, twitter on what you think about
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steve, sorry. i should have given that time to you. >> all right. 56 million credit card numbers now out in the open after hackers broke into the computer systems at home depot. they had unprecedented access for nearly six months to the numbers. was your card exposed? here is how to find out. we're joined by cyber guy curt nixon. good morning. >> good morning. we were amongst the first to report that this sort of credit card breach is not just reserved for home depot or target, as you recall, as 40 million people lost their credit card information there. this is a big event that's happening. federal government reporting that about 1,000 retailers at this point will eventually be coming forward saying this kind of intrusion is happening on the payment system of these retailers all over the place. what does it mean to you and me? the fact is, our numbers are now out there in the greatest amounts that they ever have
been. more cyber criminals will be going after our numbers. they'll be trying to get them from various methods. what i want to share with you is what in the heck they do with all this once they get our numbers. take a look at this. when they get our credit card numbers, whether they get them from the retailers or not, they add them to a collection of a bunch of numbers. they make more money when they can show that they have a lot of credit card numbers that work. that's why they'll go use them at on line stores to see a, if they work, and b, don't trio buy items easily refundable so they can use them for cash. that's part of using your credit card to find out if it works. they'll buy things, sell them right away, and then what they do to put a price tag on these cards is pretty incredible. they will go after they make sure that the card works, they will add a bunch of additional information to attach to the cards. so they'll try to find out that ddress or your wife's name, or where you
like to shop a lot. that information now raises the price in value of your own credit card that's out there. if they get a group of 1,000 of those, now they're really rolling in it. so here is what you want to do. here is what they're doing. they make sure that the cards work. they go after and see what else they can find out about you. then they look at your behavior on the card. and they'll try to find out, are you shopping the most in dayton, ohio? are you mostly in another city? when they can find that out, that card is worth a lot more money to them. now, what are stores supposed to be doing to protect you and me, right? well, there is not a lot they can do at this moment because their systems have been breached. but what they need to know is hey, has it been breached and they need to start securing access to their own payment system. they need to start sealing off the openings to them. employees have easy access to stores and corporate accounts of companies they work for.
they need to train their employees to spot suspicious e-mails, and then they need to practice these sort of fire drills when it comes to their security, as if a credit card disaster has happened inside of their company. that's how they could actually get it to work. but what you and i can do is incredible, which is we can stop using a card the moment we think it's been compromised. call the company and say you want a new one. there is a new app out that's totally free that will allow you to monitor your credit card transactions and what it will do, it's in testing phase right now -- you're traveling around with your phone and you're spending. when it notices you're away from your phone, it will alert you. it's called bill guard. you'll find it at www.foxandfriends.com. >> i'm going to download it. >> sign up for my newsletter that's there as well. >> i'll go on line and do that. thank you. straight ahead, a big development in the irs scandal. lois lerner just sat down for a
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good morning. it is monday, september 22. i'm elisabeth hasselbeck. we begin with a fox news alert. police issue an arrest warrant for a person of interest in the case of missing hannah graham. >> i believe jesse matthew was the last person she was seen with before she vanished off the face of the earth. >> this morning her emotional parents speak out for the very first time. >> she refused to testify to congress, but this morning, lois lerner is talking to the press. so what does she have to say about the irs targeting scandal? here is a hint. she's not sorry. details in 30 seconds. how far would you go to save the life of a complete stranger? >> oh, my god!
look at that! look at that! oh, my god! yes! >> one of the men who jumped in head first joins us live. because your mornings are better with friends. hi, everybody. welcome to "fox & friends" on the first day of fall. it will kick in tonight about 10:30 at night. bret baier joins us every monday in the 8:00 o'clock hour and there he is from our nation's capitol. good morning to you. >> good morning. >> just within the last half hour, politico has posted on their web site an exclusive interview with lois lerner. first of all, it says she's not sorry for anything she did. she didn't do anything wrong. what's interesting, though, is she's saying that employers won't hire her. she'd like to go to work to make money to pay for her gigantic
lawyer bill. why on earth, if she's not going to talk to congress, is she talking to politico? >> pretty interesting. the piece itself is very lengthy. it is detailed in a defense of her as a person. it's not really detailed as a defense of her actions or explaining exactly the e-mail trails back and forth. only to say that she and her legal team believe that the republicans have cherry picked some of these e-mails to release to the press. >> it's easy to cherry pick when you delete half of them. >> yeah. she says that that was not her exploding her computer and why would she only destroy some of them. it's a pretty amazing read in that it's a defense. i mean, down to she brought brownies and lottery tickets in for her office staff 'cause she was such a good person.
i think it's striking. >> it is. 43 days to go until the mid terms. a lot of people raising brow at that, from pleading the fifth to raising politico. she says, quote, i didn't do anything wrong. i'm proud of my career and the job that i did for this country, regardless of what ever else happens, i know i did the best i could under the circumstances and i'm not sorry for anything i did. wow. >> yeah. just remember the context here. this is the person who leaked the actual what was happening with the irs, this whole thing at a conference. she planted a question and then answered it, not telling congress before that and congress had asked multiple times for these specific answers. so this actually very lengthy article does not give us a lot more details on the substance. >> here is another excerpt from that article and i want to get you to comment.
why she believes she was the center of the scandal to begin with. she says, quote, i was the person who announced it. i assumed the other part of it is because i declined to talk. once i declined to talk, they could say anything they wanted. how dare they. that's my input. and they knew i couldn't say anything back. as if it's our fault she declined to talk! >> yeah. i'll also point out that republicans said when she went to congress, she had a lengthy defense before she took the fifth. they said that that really wasn't technically accurate for her not to answer questions after making that defense. she's making a defense here in broad swipes, but not really on the substance of all of the allegations. >> yeah. there were two juicy tidbits. one of them, it says after she took the fifth, she was called in to hr and she told, you're going to resign right now. and she said, i'm not going to quit. and then she walked out.
then she retired. now she's making $100,000 a year and she would like to help her husband pay for her legal defense, which it's lengthy. that's one juicy tidbit. the other thing is, before she was a lawyer for the irs, she was a dental hygienist! who knew? >> who knew? these are the kind of details we're getting. i think the other interesting thing is that she feels pressured from all of these outside groups. she says she's been threatened and that she doesn't really have a life anymore. i think that this paints a picture of a sad character, but one in which has not really answered all of the questions put to her by congress. >> none of them. let's talk about another former president obama appointee that is writing a book and is very critical of some major decisions the president has made. his name is leon panetta. here is an excerpt as he talked about the opportunity we had to
arm the free syrian army that we chose not to. but if they listened to him, we would have. listen. >> the real key was how can we develop a started providing weapons, we wouldn't know where those weapons would wind up. my view was we have to begin somewhere. i think in part we paid a price for not doing that in what we see happening with isis. >> bret?
>> yeah. that's significant for the former c.i.a. director, former defense secretary to say that. it tracks with what we saw in hillary clinton's book about the effort to push the president on training and arming the syrian rebels when we knew a lot more of the groups and the moderates. there you see the other leaders who have -- they've spoken out, them, hillary clinton and leon panetta being most appointed. but david petraeus and general dempsey also saying things about the early days of funding and training those syrian rebel groups. >> those are heavy hitters there when you see dempsey, petraeus, clienten, panetta. then when you hear this, and we're going to play a clip now and i'm sure you know it, king of jordan says this all could have been prevented, it will send chills through your spine. >> could the rise of isis have been prevented? >> they could have been prevented if the international
community worked harder together to make sure that funding the support to the original groups in syria were not allowed to get to the extent that they were. >> the international community, the united states intervened too late? >> i think we could have done a better job in making sure that earlier on it was identified who the bad people were and action by the international community was taken not to allow that to happen. >> bret, last night "60 minutes" was highly critical of the way the president of the united states has done with isis. >> it was very critical. the way it's portrayed is his national security team really pushed him and he pushed back. now, there will be defense that says those syrian rebels weren't ready to receive those weapons. they weren't -- and they could have fallen into the wrong hands, et cetera, et cetera. there are republicans on capitol
hill who had similar reservations. but his national security team in that moment is saying you have to get in the game here to affect the outcome and the fact that you see the king saying the international community, i mean, clearly he means the u.s. >> right. he also just keep in mind, who isn't in that shot? vice president joe biden, and valerie jarrett. so i guess maybe those two had more weight than the other five, six, seven or eight. >> yeah. we don't know the discussions behind closed doors. but we do know that the president listens to them greatly, especially on foreign policy matters. >> sure does. bret baier will be on 6:00 p.m. eastern time with "special report" live from d.c thank you very much for taking a little bit of your day. >> have a good day. it's ten minutes after the top of the hour. heather inaugurate is off, but we got heather childers. >> i have the latest.
we have some breaking developments to tell you about. a manhunt underway right now for three afghan soldiers who vanished right here in the united states. a major and two captains arrived at a military base in massachusetts on september 11 for training program. we just found out that they went missing during a trip to a shopping mall in cape cod. >> each hour that goes by it gets a little more concerning. finding out why you can't get in touch with them, why they haven't reached out to somebody, as time goes on, it gets more concerning. the other thing is were they victims of some type of violent act? so hopefully they've extended their weekend and they show up. >> the military insists that the men were fully vetted and do not pose a threat to the public. we will have a live report on all of this from cape cod. that's coming up in 30 minutes. closing in on a cop killer, a huge break in the search for suspect eric frien.
an assault rifle was just found stashed in the woods in pennsylvania and it is believed to belong to him. police say he was planning the ambush for months, maybe years. he seriously injured one state trooper and murdered another. people in the pocono, you're being told to stay inside and lock your doors. security at the white house beefed up this morning after two serious security incidents. did you hear about this? in one of them, the man actually got inside. omar gonzalez hopped the front fences and then bolted across the lawn. when secret service agents stopped him, they found he was armed with a knife. the iraq veteran's family claims he suffers from ptsd. he will face a judge today. and finally, can you see it in there? that is no house cat, brian. take a look. the video is a mountain lion running through a suburban
neighborhood in salt lake city. officers shot it with a tranquilizer. that didn't do too much good. it ran for more than a mile before being caught. >> never growled. never postured, aggressive posturing. it just wanted to run away. yes, it's very capable of going over six and eight-foot fences. it covered a lot of ground. >> he just wanted to run away. look at that. the lion found under a trailer, he will be relocated to a more rural area. that's probably a better thing. >> that's the way "wild kingdom" used to do it. knock them out and move them. >> i don't remember "wild kingdom" being in salt lake city. >> true. but they have to travel. marlin perkins would sit in the studio and let everybody do the hard work. >> brilliant. >> that followed disney. that was at 7:30 and disney special would be on right after, wouldn't it? >> it was syndicated, so it was on at different times throughout the country. >> my world is everybody else's
world. is that wrong? >> not exactly. coming up, a major break in the case of the missing university of virginia student, hannah graham. why the person of inte currently on the run from police. it's one of the worst crashes you will ever see. but how it ended is even more spectacular. >> oh, boy. ♪ ♪ you know what my business philosophy is, reynolds? no. not exactly. to attain success, one must project success. that's why we use fedex one rate. their flat rate shipping. exactly. it makes us look top-notch but we know it's affordable. [ garage door opening ] [ sighs ]
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reckless driving. police say over the weekend, matthew, a person of interest in the disappearance of university of virginia student, 18-year-old hannah graham, walked into the police station, spoke to an attorney and then got into a car and sped away. police are also look for anyone who might have seen this car last friday or saturday. police still know very little about matthew's interaction with graham the night she disappeared. >> i believe jesse matthew was the last person she was seen with before she vanished off the face of the earth 'cause it's been a week and we can't find her! somebody knows where she is. >> reporter: graham went missing more than a week ago. she was last seen on surveillance video walking into a restaurant with a man believed to be matthew. hannah's parents making an emotional plea to the public. >> this is every parent's worst nightmare. i'm certain that everybody in this room and those watching
knows that what happened to hannah could happen to their child. >> more than 1200 people spent their weekend searching for hannah. police say that they will keep searching until they find her. the police chief says that she doesn't want to -- he doesn't want to get tunnel vision just focusing on one person on matthew. he believes that someone knows where hannah graham is and he hopes they will come forward. back to you guys. >> all right. thank you very much. so this guy, jesse matthew, he sees himself on the television and goes in and talks to the police and says okay, i'd like a lawyer. lawyer comes, says okay. let's is a conversation. next thing you know, he gets in the car and drives off crazy. that's why there is an arrest warrant for him right now, because of his driving. we had on former lapd detective mark fuhrman on why mr. matthew initially went to the police station and then took off. >> to me, it seems that there is
frustration and anger and he's probably acting out his inability to help himself. he gets an attorney. he's basically throwing a lawyer block in the detectives' way. he's using that lawyer to not talk to the police, not cooperate with the police. it's a frustrating position for him because he probably knows exactly what happened after 1:00 o'clock that morning with hannah graham and i believe he was the last person to see hannah. >> mark fuhrman not the only one who feels that way. >> i thought suspicion would be enough without the reckless driving to pick him up. >> they already looked at his car and that's why they got a search warrant for his house. so there is some stuff they haven't revealed yet. >> they're also trying to connect the dots between the cases of missing women that have gone -- >> a dozen in the last five years out in that area of virginia. coming up, no need for jail. just stand on the corner of shame. yep. a judge causing quite a
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breaking overnight. back to emergency landings at the dallas airport. two american airplanes packed with people had technical issues within moments of each other. one on the way to fresno, california. the other flying to buenos aires. problems with cabin pressure. they returned safely to dallas two minutes apart. in delaware a second person died when a tour bus flipped over. police say the driver was trying take a curve on a steep offramp. the bus was heading back to washington, d.c 48 people were hurt.
and five extremely dangerous inmates who escaped a california prison are back behind bars. police say they got out by breaking a window. those guys are resourceful. they were in jail on charges ranging from armed robbery to attempted murder. elisabeth? >> thanks, brian. a group of highway heros being applauded this morning, rightfully so, for saving the lives of three teen-agers after their suv plunged into a ravine. >> oh, my god! look at that! look at that! oh, my god! yes! >> remarkable what you're seeing right here. it happened last week in salt lake city. the first man to jump in and encourage those others to get in and help out is leo montoya who joins us now with his story. leo, good morning. i'm saying it's good to see you. but i have a feeling everybody there was pretty happy to see you after what we looked at in that video. describe to us how you knew something was wrong. i know you were on your bike.
>> yes. i heard the explosion or the wreck and when i got to the bridge, everybody was looking into the water, but nobody was doing anything. and i knew that i -- i heard there was children in the vehicle. so i immediately jumped in and tried to get them out and realized that was a futile effort. just convinced everybody that was watching on the bridge to get in there immediately and flip this vehicle. that was the only way the kids were going to live. >> it's incredible the thinking and the action you took. when you realized it was futile, your first attempt, what did you find? why did you need everyone to start flipping the vehicle? because you dove underneath the water. what did you find? >> i thought i was on the driver's side and it didn't dawn on me until i had opened the door that there was no steering wheel. i couldn't feel nobody in the front. so the second time i went in, i
felt a person's head in the back seat and i came back out to get a knife because they had the belt strap on them. that's going to take a long time just to get a knife. so when looking up and seeing all the people on the bridge, i realized, hey, we got enough people here, we can flip this truck over and get them so they can start breathing or at least get help to them. >> so you in that split second, i mean, saved his life. did you think you'd be a i believe to get enough people to actually do the work? that's a huge vehicle to get right side up again. >> i really did think that we could do it. i kind of went a little bit crazy and was screaming quite a bit. but there was enough team and i knew we could do it. >> you certainly took charge there. the teen that you got out, he made it okay? >> i hear that there was three people in the vehicle and all three of them came out okay and they're just fine right now. >> my goodness.
once that happened, so many people jumped in and did the right thing under your direction. you were a true corporal, we'll call you in this safety and rescue. what did you all say to each other, leo? >> it was just thank you. i was just thanking everybody for helping and right now i'd like to say thank you for all the people that jumped in that water and made the difference. i want to say thank you to marcine stevens from the eye care for kids, stepped up and gave me some glasses. i'm unemployed at this time. so that was a really big help for me. she replaced the glasses that i had lost when jumping in the water. >> wow. a big gift from her as you offered one to so many. you're a locksmith. correct? >> yes, ma'am. >> okay. you know what? you unlocked a whole new set of days for the boys in that car. we always say better with friends here at "fox & friends." i'd say #betterwithleo. you're a hero and we wish you
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a fox news alert for you. a search underway at this hour for three afghan soldiers who disappeared while training at a u.s. military base here in the united states. wfxtv reporter jessica reyes is here. what else do we know this morning? >> reporter: good morning. the search for those are in full force. we know they have been missing since saturday. but right now officials with the national guard are sort of down playing this, saying at this point, there is no indication that these three pose any threat to the public. but we do know that all three of them are members of the afghan national army and we're told that one of them is a major and two of them are captains. we know that they got here on september 11 for a training program hosted by the massachusetts national guard and the u.s. central command. 200 soldiers from six different countries are taking part in it, including the u.s.
the goal of this exercise is apparently to promote cooperation among the countries and prepare them for international events. the director of public affairs for joint base cape cod tells us that the visiting soldiers are not required to stay on base and he says they were last seen at the cape cod mall in hyannis, massachusetts. as of this morning, still no word on where they may be or what may have happened to them. but here is international law enforcement and security consultant dan, formerly of the boston police department, with his take on the situation. >> each hour that goes by it gets more concerning. finding out why you can't get in touch with them, why they haven't reached out to somebody. as time gets on, it gets more concerning. the other thing is were they victims of some type of violent act. so hopefully they extended their weekend and at some point will show up tonight or be found by folks. >> reporter: as you just heard, concern growing with every hour
that these three are missing. but ofcials are the base are saying that at this point, there is no indication that these three pose any threat to the public. even so, the search is on in full force this morning and includes law enforcement agencies at the local, state and federal level, including the f.b.i that's the latest. jessica reyes, back to you. >> thank you very much. live report from cape cod. i bet they just don't want to go back to afghanistan. >> compare cape cod to afghanistan. the other thing is, i like to talk to some of the soldiers training them and find out, did they profile those people set to bug out and cause a ruckus? >> maybe people in the mall have more information about the last purchases. >> i just wouldn't think you would be allowed to. if you're training at a cape cod base, stay in cape cod. if not, you're going to be escorted. wouldn't you think? >> i think when you're posted somewhere, you get time off. you can't stay on base all the time.
they're look for them. so keep an eye out. 25 minutes before the top of the hour. heather has some headlines. >> from people wanting to stay here to some wanting to leave, isis in need of women. the terror group using social media to recruit females to marry their fighters and have children. we recently learned of two austerian teenage girls heading over and they're reportedly pregnant. the group's postings telling women they will, quote, have kids and cook. some isis fighters claiming ten to 20 women arrive daily. a stunning new report, top level officials are leaving the department of homeland security at alarming rates and it could be putting our security at risk. the report found employees have left dhs twice as fast as the rest of the government in the past four years. some of the reasons, a dysfunctional work environment and low morale. plus they say private contractors are offering them more money. a drag racer is lucky to be alive this morning after this
insane crash. look. >> oh, my god. >> yeah. the driver, by the way, thrown right through the windshield. you can see his legs sticking out of that windshield. but he was able to walk away, walk out of the car. >> really? >> yeah. that's him. lucky, lucky. one missouri judge is fed up with law breakers, disrespecting the court. instead of sending them to jail, he is sending repeat offenders to the corner of shame. here is how the judge explained it right here on "fox & friends." >> this isn't a laughing matter. i mean, it's very serious. without judicial orders being followed, the law is only words. it's my responsibility to make sure that people not only respect, but follow court's orders. >> the judge has gotten mixed
reactions. the most seem more willing to wear the sign than go to jail. and we have some viewer response to that. >> is that true, we have viewer response? >> linda said this punishment looks too easy. i say make them do public work and not something menial. >> 'cause he's smile. >> german writes, shame and public humiliation is a powerful motivator. this may be more effective than jail. >> wow. >> so many people wouldn't show up for their court dates, they wouldn't pay the fine. he didn't want to put them in jail. so this seemed to him like a better solution. >> one woman who has never been punished 'cause she's never done anything wrong, maria molina who is outside. and she says it's fall. >> 10:00 o'clock tonight, start raking. >> it will kick off at 10:29 p.m but because it's the start of fall, i have some fall trivia for you. are you ready? we have a nice trivia question coming up for you guys.
that question is: why do leaves change color in the fall? is it because a, it is colder. b, there is less light. c, there is less in, or d, because the trees are dying. which answer do you think is correct. >> what was the first one? >> because it's colder. >> let's poll the audience. >> 'cause there is less rain or because the trees are dying? what do you guys think is right? >> i'm going with less light. >> sure. >> i'm going to say because they're dying. >> the correct answer is b, because there is less light. i'm sorry, brian. >> wow. i thought all the trees are dying. >> no. good to see you guys. >> that's so sad. thanks, maria. >> weather across the country, relatively country. showers and storms across the southeast and rockies and those temperatures already feeling like fall across parts of the great lakes in the midwest. early this morning in the 40s
and 50s out there. the highs in cleveland only going to make it into the 50s. look at texas, always feeling like summer out there. 90s and 80s widespread. let's head over to brian. >> thank you very much. you want to hear what happened in the games yesterday. monday morning means nfl highlights. in a rematch of last year's super bowl, the denver broncos trying to get revenge. tying it up before the end of regulation. they lose the toss. and then seattle would have a masterful 80-yard drive and win at home. the broncos do not get revenge. what do you do after a football game? shed of the seattle seahawks was asking his girlfriend to marry him after a win against the broncos. he changed out of his uniform, into a dress shirt 'cause she demanded it. he kneeled down mid field and
popped the question. >> wow. >> she said yes. he then posted the picture on instagram, got a lot of likes. >> good thing. victory there for the guy. and the girl. because i missed that first game. coming up straight ahead, somebody else read. i'm exhausted. >> it's a new idea to jump start our economy. have the government start handing out free cash? we're serious. peter johnson, jr. is on that next. that's right. and his mission to protect and serve, that's exactly what he did to save this beloved mascot, a sleeping colleague, dog and master join us live. move over, number 7, right into a brick wall musical chairs. fun, right?
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15 minutes to the top of the hour. business news for you. home depot just announcing it will offer free identity protection services and credit monitoring for a year to the 56 million customers affected by its data breach. price of cars are falling. the average cost is under $11,000. and air bus announcing a new design to shrink restrooms to create more space in the cabin. i don't know how i'd feel about that, steve. >> the bathrooms are small enough already. all right. thank you very much. talk about a windfall. there is an unusual new plan being proposed that could jump start our economy. asking the federal government to give american families cold, hard cash. joining us is fox news legal analyst, peter johnson, jr. >> good morning. this is incredible. i think we should all think about it. maybe it's a good idea. maybe not. i want to know what you think afterwards. in foreign affairs magazine, an article written by professor mark blithe of brown university
and eric lonergan say rather than trying to spur private sector spending, or interest rate changes, central banks such as the fed, federal reserve should hand consumers cash directly. the government could distribute cash equally to all households or even better, aim for the bottom. 80% of households in terms of income. so steve, he's saying cold, hard cash in the hands of 80% of americans today to jump start the economy. >> i get that. rather than give -- buy all those bonds on wall street, which we've been doing for a number years to stimulate the economy. but haven't we been given cold hard cash to millions of americans anyway? >> let's look at that. entitlement spending in america in 2013, $266 billion for welfare. nearly $80 billion for food stamps. without even looking at obamacare with regard to aid to other countries in 2012. the u.s. gave $31.2 billion in
economic assistance. so this professor and this hedge fund manager is saying, we do all kinds of things in terms of monetary or fiscal policy. we add new dash to the american system. we play with interest rates. we do quantitative easing. he's saying give to the poorest 80% of americans, cold hard cash in order to stop deflation, in order to jump start the economy. we're hearing this morning that the people who were laid off in the last five years, 20% -- 20% of those people are still unemployed, even more underemployed. so huey long in the 30s had a proposal. john keens had a proposal. barry banknotes in coal mines. share the wealth. give away thousands of dollars to americans, even wrote a song about it and he sang it as well.
♪ every man a king ♪ you can be -- >> you want to be a millionaire. let's talk about it. should america give cold hard cash rather than welfare to americans? new socialism or saving capitalism? let's find out. let's talk about it. >> interesting idea rather than bail out wall street, bail out main street. >> middle america. you need help. >> e-mail him with your suggestion on whether or not it's a good idea. coming up, his mission to protect and serve and that's exactly what he did to save his beloved mascot, a sleeping colleague. dog and master here next. first bill hemmer is going to be taking the field here in about 11 minutes. >> steve, good morning. it's busy monday. where is hannah graham? the police chief is live in a moment on that. leon panetta says the obama team made a big mistake not going after isis earlier. we will analyze his comments.
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close call at this weekend's texas a & m game when a quick thinking cadet saved the university mascot from being trampled by a player from the opposing team. mascot corporal ryan kreider is the brave cadet who saved the aggies' first lady reveille. both okay. if you can, ryan, bring me through the moment when an overthrown pass sent the receiver your direction.
>> yes, sir. like you said, overthrown pass and noticed the receiver going for it and kind of pushed out of bounds. so i saw him heading straight towards reveille and i and kind of football instincts took over, i lowered my shoulder and redirected him. >> you're a high school football player and it was a saturday. so you're used to playing on this day. there your collie is sitting on the ground and you let instinct take over. >> yes, sir. >> wow. i don't want to point fingers, should he have been sleeping during the game or should he have been resting during the game? was that the place for her to be? >> well, she's been mascot since 2008, so she's been to quite a few games and she's seen it several times. it wasn't too much of an interesting game, so i guess she decided she would get a nap in there. right after it happened, she kind of lift up, startled a little bit and went back to
napping. >> by the way, that was derek thompson who was pushed aside and then you knock him aside. what was his reaction when he got hit by you? >> he didn't really react too much. i'm sure he was a little shocked. he just ran back on the field. i don't know -- next time that happened, he'd kind of make sure he stopped before he got to him. >> i guess we're boring reveille a little bit. this time it's the dog who is bored. real quick, your command anti-was very happy you protected him. what's he doing for you? >> he's so proud of me, he is going to buy my senior boots, which they're worth $1,600. and it's a huge deal at texas a & m in the corps to make it through your four years and get those senior booms it's also really hard financially to pay for them. so i really appreciate it. that's kind of when i knew it was a big deal, when he decided
to pay for my boots. >> social media took over. 58-6 was the final, but everyone is talking about your save of reveille. thanks so much, ryan. best of luck. >> thank you. >> thanks for what do you and thanks for protecting the dog and i'm glad you're getting your boots for free. >> thank you, brian. five minutes before we're done. stick around because we all have one story for the road and it's about a reporter that just won't quit. >> as for this job, well, not that i have a choice, but [ bleep ]. i quit you can eat that on weight watchers?
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earlier we were talking to donald trump on this monday morning as we always do about the results of an investigation into chris christie, governor of the great state of new jersey's connection to bridgegate. we had said he had been cleared by the feds, but actually he just hasn't been implicated.
so that's that. >> we have one for the road beginning with a fox news correspondent who hurled herself out of a plane over the weekend. take a look. >> we're jump not guilty with our warriors so she can understand what they're going through. >> wow. >> it features injured veterans to inspire other veterans to never give up. >> very nice. >> good job. >> anchorage in alaska reporter quitting live on the air. >> and as for this job, well, not that i have a choice ([ bleep ]), i quit. >> station issues an apology, said she's been terminated, but she had already quit. you make the call at home. >> apparently she was covering a story that she was actually involved in. >> right. >> meanwhile, tomorrow on the program, laura ingraham is going to be joining us, plus typical
tuesday. we're going to be following the news of the day. >> don't give away too much. >> well, okay. also, speak your dog's language, all coming up tomorrow. >> i'll probably do that one, too. >> we'll see you then.
"morning joe." clintons will be in little rock to celebrate the 10th anniversary of their library. there's a free concert. later we'll hear from the two window wash who are had to be rescued from the 67th floor of 1 world trade center on wednesday. they are expected to hold a news conference. that will do it for our friday edition of "way too early." "morning joe" starts right now. ♪ good morning, everybody. it's friday. >> this is the jam. >> november 14th. welcome to "morning joe." what a difference a day off makes. >> what a great day. >> i need to do that more often. with us on set -- i never have. it's time -- >> was it a spa day. >> a day with my daughter day.
no other reason. yep. i spent years not doing that. >> what was that like >> it was amazing. we had the best time. >> i'm going to try that. >> we watched videos in bed. just youtube videos. like funny things. stupid stuff. >> did you see the person impersonating matthew mcconaughey. >> no but we'll do that the next time. >> all right, all right. >> we watched the apparent kid on ellen. whatever. senior political editor sam stein is here. donny is here. in washington we got jeremy peters here. how is that >> you were right. >> what? oh, i know. >> dude is on his cell phone. >> mark my words. >> dude on his cell phone. >> he was texting, i bet before the phone call. >> so he's on the cell phone the secret service guy while the other dude is breaking towards the white house and he's on his
cell phone. he left his back up radio inside. he turned off the radio he was supposed to have on because he's on his cell phone and doesn't want -- it's unbelievable. talk about the scathing report, mika. it's just been released. >> that's the bottom line. this is on the white house security breach that happened in september. the department of homeland security faults secret service agents for nearly a dozen performance organizational and technical failures. those errors allowed omar gonzalez to jump the white house fence with a knife, run across the north lawn and enter the first family's home. he then overpowered a female secret service officer and ran across the 80-foot east room before he was apprehended. the report states the secret service' alarm system and radios did not work properly and many officers on duty didn't see gonzalez as he climbed the fence. a uniformed secret service officer with an attack dog was
allegedly talking on a cell phone instead of listening to a two way radio. his stand by radio was in his locker. >> what else i understand they had agents that drew guns on this guy and they go well we don't think he's armed. so they drew their guns. he ran past them. i think it was even an agent in the white house, inside the white house where he came in, drew his gun and said he doesn't look armed. donny, oh, my god. first of all the guy had a knife on him. that equals armed. if there had bean civilian or somebody walking around the white house he could have grabbed them. list jenks i'm sorry, i don't care who it is. if they are racing there the presumption has to be they are armed. not that they are not armed. >> either way shoot them. you're running into my house, if i have a gun i'm going take you down. it's almost beyond comprehension. >> they can teach them how to
shoot in the leg if you don't want to kill them but shoot them. >> we talked about this. let's call it a snafu to be nice. one more example. >> like a dozen snafus. >> whether it's the irs, you know, whether it's the universities administration, the secret service -- when does it get right? and it's stunning. it's really stunning. >> i think the story here really is about tablets and cell phones and as we move forward, security jobs and other jobs that demand complete focus and attention the question is are they going to be allowed to have -- >> there's also the question of why you don't shoot somebody once they are inside the white house because you're presuming they are not armed. >> i read somewhere -- i forget why there was an article i read but it said it's really a lot more complicated to shoot somebody in the leg than you think it is. at the same time don't they have taser guns or something they can
do to impede a man with a knife that's entering the white house front door or lock the door or don't go into the car with your cell phone with your k-9. >> we call president obama the president but at the end of the day he's a dad. can you imagine what must have went down that day with his kids. can you imagine? >> the guy ran right past the staircase to go upstairs where the kids are. >> that's not even the first thing. there's a shooter that shot at the white house from way down the street that they covered up essentially for a while. the first family must be just absolutely aghast. >> let's get to the big story on capitol hill. oh, boy, fireworks. i think so. are we going to see more of the same or is there going some sort of diversion from the norm. president obama said this morning he'll move to overhaul parts of the immigration system by the end of the year and it's already raising the prospect of a government shutdown within some circles of the gop. the "new york times" reports the
white house plan would prevent the deportation of as many as 5 million undocumented immigrants. it would reform the role of law enforcement, add more security to the border and allow the parents of children born in the u.s. to get work documents. the plan would also boost opportunities for more legal immigrants with expertise in technology. yesterday house democrats called on the president to take decisive action fein it came without full congressional backing. some republicans are threatening a shutdown. >> let's not do that, guys. >> you got a w. big w. >> check the win box. let's see. let's listen to what they say about this because perhaps their tone shows they know they've won and time for a new approach. >> your setting somebody up here? >> no. i'm hoping what we're about to see is a real change. so they say unless there's language restricting the
president's proposal. >> will not be shutting the government down, threatening default on the national debt. >> even if he goes forward on immigration. >> will not be shutting the government down or threatening to default on the national debt. >> we're going to fight the president tooth and nail if he continues down this path. this is the wrong way to govern. all the options are on the table. we're having discussions with our members and no decision has been made as to how we will fight this. >> i think mitch mcconnell said it pretty straight. no government shutdown right, jeremy peters. >> he did although it may not be entirely his choice. john boehner once again is having to wrestle with the tea party faction in his caucus and i think what's going, what's likely to happen here is the president will wait until after congress deals with the budget to do anything, so congress, therefore, can't shut down the government in response to what the president has done on
illegal immigration but i do think there's a serious, serious amount of caution inside the republican party right now, especially among the new senate majority or the incoming senate majority that shutting down the government would completely squander all of the gains that they just made, all the goodwill that they have among the public right now. >> explain that. why do you think that is? >> i think the first thing they want to do or the first thing they do when they come back, after they are elected the majority party in congress for the first time since 2006 they come in and shut down the government. i think that would look horrible. republicans would get blamed for that. >> they did the last time. >> they certainly did. i will say it's a little bit different this time because when the president acts unilaterally on just about anything that has less public support and we've seen that in the past, this whole notion of executive action on immigration to allow these people to stay here without
going through congress, that has proven unpopular. not just in states like arkansas, but in states like colorado and iowa. i do think that's a concern for democrats. >> we're showing -- this was the republicans blame for the government shutdown last time in october of '13. we've heard a couple of republicans talk about this. but the overwhelming majority just are not going to go there. >> the senate is obviously different than house to. look what mitch mcconnell has to deal with in the senate. he has people up for re-election in very blue states. he has to grapple with that calculus. that's not the calculus that john boehner has to grapple with. but, again, even though the dynamics are different, it's not a shutdown fight would go straight to the president's desk. even those dynamics are in, i can't imagine -- >> not going to do it. >> would be coming in. >> just not going to do it.
>> much more likely put this into the law so they are going after the president for his executive actions on health care. >> take the win. don't talk about a shutdown. don't talk about impeachment. don't talk about default. you know, you're now moving towards 2016. have a chance to win the white house and keep it away from the clintons for eight more years. don't talk about those things. >> all republicans have to do is stay center right and not show. the interesting thing about this immigration thing is two fold. number one, i felt very strongly a republican win would energize obama. we saw with it net neutral thing. he's starting to double down. he's backed into a corner and coming out fighting. the immigration thing could set up the republicans to fraction themselves. you have the hispanics. the republicans started to make inroads in the last election. this will force republican
candidates how harsh do they come out against the president and now spotlight is back on the fraction republicans. >> i have a prediction. i think they let it pass. write it down. they let it pass. they are skraemg and yelling from the right. and it just becomes the law because they don't want to pass their own immigration bill. this becomes the law of the land. the people that are running in the blue states like you said the republicans running in the blue states say yeah i didn't oppose it. i didn't like the way he did it but there are some good reforms there. the right-wingers can scream and yell and say he should be impeached. people running for president the governors running for president they can all go yeah these were things that needed to happen. it sort of eases it along like the gay marriage debate, the courts are taking the gay marriage debate out of the hands of the republicans. it makes it convenient. there are a lot of republicans that to run in 2016 that will say let that pass. >> i totally agree with you.
that's the smart strategic move because it's much easier to say we're against executive action and put aside the policy. we're against presidential executive action on that scale while not dealing with the specifics of the policy. that way you don't enrage the hispanic population but you can talk about obama's overreach. simple play for mcconnell and anybody running in 2016. >> people in the right-wing districts can talk about impeachment. >> then the keystone pipeline which is set for a vote in the house today and the senate is nearing the 60 votes needed to pass it early next week. tissue was fast tracked in large part due to louisiana senate runoff between mary landrieu and bill cassidy both trying to show they can provide for the state. supporters say it will create thousands of american jobs but some analysts suggest the falling price of crude means its market value may be less than it costs to transport and produce here in the u.s. the president who retains his veto power weighed in on the issue this morning while on his
trip to asia. >> as a policy matter, my government believes that we should judge this pipeline based on whether or not it accelerates climate change or whether it helps the american people with their energy costs and their gas prices. and i have to constantly push back against this idea that somehow the keystone pipeline is either this massive jobs bill for the united states, or is somehow war on gas prices. understand what this project is. it is providing the ability of canada to pump their oil, send it through our land, down to the gulf where it will be sold every where else. it doesn't have an impact on u.s. gas prices. >> major environmental questions as well. do you think he should veto it. >> i think if he vetoes it he
proves he's capped big money on the left. no other way to put it. you look at his own state department. they say this is more environmentally sensitive having a pipeline than continuing to allow trucks and tankers to move this oil around. they say it's going to create 45,000, 50,000 new jobs. is this going to cause this great renaissance of like american, you know, american workforce? no. >> a massive bargaining chip is that what you're saying? >> no. what i'm saying is that there's no logical reason whatsoever for the president to veto this other than hard core ideo logs on the left who spend billions of dollars on democratic campaigns. this is, donny and sam, a growing problem, i think for democrats. you know, as a republican i've
seen for some time oh, gee this issue is breaking against republicans. we talked about gay marriage before. this is an issue that will break against republicans with the younger generation. this growing energy revolution where we're going to be the number one producer of oil by 2020 will cost manufacturing and everything go down, democrats are actually on the wrong side of that issue of a historical trend and somebody has to help them, in my opinion. >> i tend to see the politics here which is that there's enough support for this thing to probably pass and the question comes what did the president get as a leverage point for it. in a logical political world couldn't you see a trade off we'll pass keystone, we'll do these environmental regulations on our coal plants. we have a net neutral carbon deal in place. we don't live in a logical political view.
>> if i'm the president i would veto this. you give me minimum wage wage increase. >> company have leveraged that for something. we're at a point where we may end up with a veto proof majority in the senate. >> the president still has the power to say i'll veto this bill, i'll send it back to you, attach $9.15 minimum wage increase to it and sign it. you'll see a lot of those republicans in the senate that are in those blue states running in 2016 saying i'll be a part of that. we'll see what the house does. >> two other political dynamics in play. joining us now from washington chief white house correspondent for politico mike allen. mike, let's start with elizabeth warren. what are the expectations for her new role and then chris christie and wall street. what's going on. go. >> mika, first things first. happy friday. >> happy friday micky. >> playbook is play on birthdays
cond iis 60 and valerie jarrett is 60 today. >> it's valerie's birthday. >> happy birthday valerie. >> i knew that valerie had a birthday. >> start with elizabeth warren. >> elizabeth warren is coming to the democrats rescue. these democrats are so reluctant, dragging their feet in voting for harry reid as their leader so there's so much excitement about her. she's been added to leadership. she has the made up title of senior policy adviser to the senate democrats. but she came out talking about working families, bashing wall street. you saw where that was going. also yesterday at the mandarin oriental here in d.c. you saw her talking to big democratic donors saying run, liz, run. a lot of excitement about her, pushing her for president among some of the biggest check books in the democratic party.
>> what's going on between chris christie and wall street? >> they are worried about what this story calls as unusual frankness. the big question is that a liability for him or an asset. chris christie is feeling great coming off these big republican governor wins. he feels bridgegate is behind him. republican donors are ppra"gma" ists. >> what do you think? >> i think he's got a temp temperament problem. >> wall street sees that. we never elected an angry person.
>> zero chance this guy will get elected. >> he's not a thug. you know, we went after the teacher. >> fantastic. >> you're asking about my kids and where they go to school. went to a town hall meeting and starting screaming at that guy in the crowd. that's like wall street people didn't say good for him. he can send his kids to a damn catholic school if he wants to. you start yelling at people in press conferences. >> where was the line. you knew he would cross it at some point. >> so it just seemed off kilter. scott walker there's a reason he's scott walker. scott walker won. he's won in wisconsin now three times in four years. his star is now eclipsed, chris christie's with most conservatives i talked to and money people. and even in the "wall street journal" today, they were
talking this is scott walker's moment. >> you end up getting to know the people you cover. you become friends with some of them. i've talked about this. the romneys, the clintons, the obamas, we criticize them a lot. we're also very friendly with them. and they come back sometimes after the most, the biggest -- >> oh, my gosh. let me put it this way. i tore mitt romney to shreds in 2012 for one of the most ineffective lousy campaigns and mocked him and laughed at him when he did really stupid things on the campaign trail. just sort of having fun. you know what? the romneys never once took it personally. and we talked and i would say hey listen -- we kept communications open. we consider them good friends. we love them. >> this was on big stuff.
like running for the president. >> running for the president. chris christie on the bridge thing. we catched so much hell for being supportive of chris christie, mika especially. >> we generally like him. >> he walks past at parties, he's angry because there was that 1% that said well inis bad -- again this is a question of temperament. if you got a problem with mika supporting you only 99% of the time you got a problem. >> mike is laughing. >> 99% of the time. what does that tell you, seriously >> to be honest he's a jerk. >> no he's not a jerk. he's very thin skinned. >> governor of wisconsin scott walker will join us. scott is coming on even though sometimes i'm tough on him. >> you've been very tough on scott walker. >> actor alan alda, and retired
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crash because i overslept. i may be late once in a while not as much as i used to. i'm never late because i oversleep. that first event, that's a one event you have complete control over. >> so, i think it's also a man/woman thing. i think women are always on time. >> your're so punctual. >> went come late and waste time talking about stupid stuff. >> "wall street journal" indicates justice department collecting data from thousands of phones from devices installed on small airplanes. the airplanes are equipped with dirty boxes that have technology smim lar to cell phone towers
allowing the home track calls. this report says while spy planes are targeting criminals a large number of innocent americans are also getting snagged by their dirty boxes. >> "los angeles times," amazon has reached a deal over ebook and print sales after a huge six month -- >> is it a good deal? >> hatchet can set their own prices for ebooks which may help keep the struggling publisher afloat. amazon will continue sales of hatchet books. >> there's a lot of competition. >> authors got squeezed in that. >> "the washington post," the presidential bromance between bill clinton and george w. bush has spilled over to social media. clinton sparked somewhat of a hash tag dual when he tweet ad photo of himself reading his successor's book. clinton called it a touching tribute before using a hash tag
asking how are you still not on twitter. bush took to instagram writing thanks 42, using hash tags how are you still not on instagram and brother from another mother. >> instagram is cooler. >> kind of hip. but bill clinton's advisers obviously trying to keep you from posting pictures. you can understand, right? >> yes. >> all right. >> bush also had this to say about a potential 2016 match up between his brother and hillary clinton. >> i still would like him if jeb beats hillary. >> your betting on that? >> if jeb runs. i don't know if he'll run, i really don't. i hope does because he would be a great president. >> there you go. >> like when your son is competing against your best friend's wife. >> it's just a little too close.
>> sibling. >> unbelievable. >> coming up. excited for the american electorate. 25 years later we get another bush/clinton. please. just bury the white house now. unbelievable. we're all doomed. republican leaders shift positions. his may be the most important. senator roger wicker. hotty toddy. how o le miss beat crimson tide. >> what the top columnists in the nation are writing about. don't go away. we'll be back with much more "morning joe".
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joining us for the must read op-eds, eugene robinson. what are your looking at? >> i have peggy noonan here. "wall street journal." peggy writes this.
i'm really skeptical. she said it's possible the president is responding to changed circumstance with a certain rigidity because no one of stood in his way before. he had family challenges and an unusual childhood but as an adult and a professional he never faced fierce concentrated resistance. he was always magic. life never came in and gave it to him hard in the swrau. he done know how to get up from the mat. he doesn't know how to struggle frl his feet and regain his balance. he only knows how to throw punches but you can't throw a punch from the mat. gene, i'll let you take that. >> i'm very skeptical of all this sort of -- it was his childhood. this pop psychoanalyzing this president and other presidents is basically pretty worthless. i'm a great admirer of peggy's writing -- >> me too. >> but this one i don't get.
also keep in mind the president of the united states is never really on the mat. the president of the united states is still the president of the united states and can, for example, as he did this week make this sort of landmark climate deal with china that will have huge implications. he can do it on his own powers because we give the president a lot of power. i think it's a mistake to read short term political game loss and say the president is on the mat. he's done. he can't do this. he can't do that. he can do a lot. >> it's easy to look at other people's careers and say it came easy for that person and their lives and that's not ever fair or true. having said that to defend this point, i think when he came in he was so absolutely idolized that it might have been hard to imagine that he would have a hard time. >> running against the clintons not easy. >> the guy got elected in 2004. and he was state senator.
he got basically the primetime spot as a state senator on the democratic national convention in boston. nobody gets that. as a state senator. >> his speech in europe. >> hold on. let me finish my point. he gets elected to the senate. everybody says including harry reid he's bored a month later and decides he wants to run for president of the united states when he's in the senate. he doesn't do any work in the senate. as harry reid said you're bored you just need to get out of here and then he gets elected president and, of course, it's tough. yes it's tough. but come on. this guy politically i'm not going to talk personally but politically this guy has been on a magic carpet ride. he's gone to the best institutions on the planet. and went to a great prep school in high school. >> you talking about george w. bush or obama. >> i'm talking about barack obama which, by the way, thank you for making my point. george w. bush had a similar
problem. he rode on a magic carpet ride from the time he was young. compare that, sam stein, to bill clinton. who really did have a rough and tumble. he scratched, he clawed and he got elected in arkansas and he had to fight like hell for his political life every day. >> that's a great point. >> i'll give you a little more time to try to come up with something to go against that because i'm so right. sam, you first. >> let's separate the personal from the political. politically you're probably right. >> i don't know the personal. >> we do know about the personal. he wrote a whole book about the absence of his father in his life. that's a challenge enough in your life. it's an obstacle that a lot of people don't overcome. >> that's why i said political. >> we started with the column. now to your point yeah i think there's something valid to be
said if you're from a blue state, if you've not run, you know, really contested elections he lost his first election for congress that you don't learn the art of the compromise, you don't learn what it's like to negotiate when you're in a bad position, sure i think that's fine. but he has overcome some fairly decent political obstacles which you have to recognize. hillary clinton is not a formidable opponent. >> name me a president, joe, who doesn't come in to office with the possible exception of harry truman who comes into office think i'm really special, they love me. >> gene, they were talking in my ear when you were making the point. ask me the question again. >> name a president with a possible exception of harry truman who has come in to office not thinking i'm special. they really love me. i can do everything. it's an occupational hazard. it comes with the office.
all of a sudden you're president of the united states and you have the, you know, u.s. government at your beck and call and they play hail to the chief whenever you walk into the room. so, yes, it goes to your head because it goes to everybody's head and you think well of course people ought to, you know, ought to accept what i say and i'm just saying -- >> so everybody gets drunk with that power when they walk through the white house. i've had this discussion with people inside this white house saying do you really think the bu bushs didn't think the same thing. when things go bad what political background do you have to fall back on. richard nixon had a political background to fall back on. he learned the wrong lessons from that. bill clinton again the best example. >> scrappy. >> got elected in '78. lost in 1980 he went too far left. self-corrected and was governor for another 12 years of arkansas. he got elected in '92.
conquering hero. two years later he got laid out. adjusted radically. he had that in his background. barack obama doesn't. >> speaking -- >> i'm sorry. >> speaking -- >> okay. >> don't get the hook. >> with us now from -- >> speaking of a magic carpet ride i mean my god. this guy. republican senator from mississippi, senator roger wicker joins us. he's the incoming chairman of the national republican senatorial committee. >> roger we'll talk about the senatorial committee and what you'll be doing over the next two very difficult years for you. but first we need to talk about the sec west. no sec west has lost any team outside of the sec west and we should be number one through four in the playoffs. >> for once i want florida state to play a whole season in the sec west and see how they do. >> oh, my gosh florida state
would have about five losses by now. let's talk about, you for some reason decided to take on one of the tougher tasks in the republican party. we fought, we republicans fought on our grounds on our home field in 2014. 2016 is the opposite. this is a senate map dotted in blue states. what do republicans have to do to win those blue states. >> first of all the reason the map is so tough for us is because we did so well in 2010. so, we have 24 seats to defend and, you know, i feel real good about mark kirk being re-elected in illinois, pat toomey in pennsylvania. new hampshire looks good for us. you take them one by one i think we can defend. >> you're talking about a lot of states, those where the voters, especially the swing voters that come out in '16 won't take kindly to government shutdowns
and threats of impeachments and defaults. do you agree with mitch mcconnell that there's no way in heck that the republican party is going to shut down the government? >> you know they asked mitch two ways about that and the answer was the same, we're not going to have any government shutdowns, we're not going to have any threats of impeachment. we're going return to regular order and show america how the senate is supposed to work, how the founding fathers intended us to move legislation through, an open process, unlimited debate, working in to the night, working on mondays and fridays for a change like the american people do and sending legislation to the house and on to the president for, hopefully his signature. >> jeremy? >> hi, senator. good morning. congratulations. i won, one of the races you didn't mention is nevada where harry reid is up in 2016. if he chooses to run again, will you guys go after him with the same force that he went after mitch mcconnell this time around. >> well absolutely. but you know more importantly i
think that the citizens of nevada will go after harry reid. i think he's out of step with state. we had a real good run this year in the governor's race, lieutenant governor's race and captured a lot of the down state tickets. so to me that state is going republican. i think governor sandoval has a real good opportunity now after a great run as governor, perhaps to run for senator. so, i'm really, frankly i'll say this. i think harry reid may decide to retire. that's my prediction. >> let us see. >> all right. senator roger wicker great to have you on the show. >> thank you roger. >> eugene robinson thank you as well. >> thank eugene. >> thanks. >> gene set me straight. you made me a wiser man. >> comfort food. >> i don't know what that means at all.
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parents and when your parents had you. this process of change is called evolution. it's the reason why we look the way we look. >> a clip from the emmy award-winning series bill nye the science guy focused on evolution. evolution and the science of creation. it's author bill nye joins us now the book already doing well. >> yes. number eight. >> that is good. tell us about the book. why did you write it? >> to change the world. >> really? >> and has the world been sufficiently changed. >> we'll see. >> is it over? >> so evolution is the fundamental life in all of life sipes and we have a large fraction of people most advanced nation in the world that don't accept it. >> that's his party, by the way. his crazy whacky party. just saying. >> we have more in common -- we're more alike than different.
>> exactly. thank you, bill nye. >> that's one of the points of evolution that really in a sense no such thing as race. >> tell his crazy party that also. >> donny, we'll have to pull you from the set. >> for example, just by way of example, just run the star experiment. if a norwegian woman interacts -- can we say interact. >> yes. >> what do we mean by interact. >> have sex, procreate. >> from guinea you'll get a human not a new thing. this is sort of a fundamental idea. >> let's get to the crux of your book. what do you want to accomplish here? what message do you want to send? >> that evolution is the fundamental idea in life science
and it's humbling and empowering. when you realize you're a product of trial and error then i hope you cut yourself some slack. everybody you've ever met has made it this far. everybody you've ever met is good enough to get here. even my old boss. it's that simple. i was never sure. >> let me ask you a question. does the fact that fewer people are believing in evolution suggesting we aren't evolving. >> the pendulum will swing. see here's what keeps the united states in the game economically. we don't manufacture things here the way they did when i was a kid or especially when my father was a kid. what keeps us in the game is innovation. new ideas. if you want an iphone, if you want that computer you're enjoying, if you want that plastic that your boston red sox cup is made out of, you got to have innovators, new ideas,
scientist, engineers. engineers make things and to solve problems. if you have a group of people that continually suppresses science, then you'll fall behind economically. this is why i'm concerned about young people. >> so, i am a southern baptist, orthodox in my believe. terrible southern baptist. >> i'm not keeping record. >> black sliding southern baptist. you're not the one to keep records, the big man is. this debate has always come up and it's always been either or, black or white. you either believe in jesus or you believe in evolution. you either believe in god or, blah, blah, blah. the pope said something a couple of weeks ago that i've been saying since i've been 8 years old, why does there have to be a conflict. if you believe in the power of god, you believe god has the power to set events in motion. how helpful was the pope's
statement. >> it was good. it's good. also good that the pope accepted the findings of g alileo. this organization especially in kentucky has this diligent and complete program to indoctrinate young people that the earth is somehow magically 6,000 years old and it's not. it can't be. so if you question that when you question everything in geology. like the philae spacecraft, amazing thing. billions of kilometers out in space. taking astonishing pictures. if there's an steroid or comet with our name on it we need a space program to give it a nudge. if you don't believe in this stuff you won't do anything about it. >> i saw are a me ged don't. >> the book is -- >> don't want to blow it up. give it a nudge. >> bill nye, thank you so much.
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♪ welcome back to "morning joe." don't you love this song? can't hardly wait for replacements. the ending of what i believe to be the best rock album of the 1980s. >> a bold statement. >> "pleased to meet you." >> it's a great record. >> managing editor of bloomberg politics john heileman, good to have you on board. >> hi there. >> don't you get happy when john shows up? >> i do. >> the whole set gets elevated. >> the pixie dust i sprinkle every where. >> that's what you call it? >> that's what i call it. >> senator mitch mcconnell's argument for re-election was opportunity to become majority leader and now that's a reality. >> despite some senators refusal to say who they would back, mcconnell was elected unanimously. harry reid was elected senator minority leader but politico reports he had to convince some
skeptical democrats he would be more open to policy and messaging. some members tried to delay the vote and six defect preponderance of the evidence when asked if he shouldered some of the blame for the senate flipping reid said does anybody in nebraska know me or kansas? >> yes, they do. can i answer that for him? yes, they do. they don't like you. >> stop. >> in fact, they know you a lot more than they know the koch brothers and the people that gave you hundreds of millions of dollars to win the election from the democrats they are very angry at you because you blew all of their money chasing after the koch brothers and making it personal. you should have watched the godfather. never make it personal. he made it personal. he cost the democrats a lot of seats. >> i just don't think he was asked. i don't know. he also says i don't think it had much to do with me. >> it had everything to do with me. >> people don't know who i am. he created a position for
senator elizabeth warren as a policy adviser in a nod to the progressive wing of the party. >> they like her. >> house minority leader pell was elected again but unleashed a long rebuttal when a reporter asked if she considered stepping aside when the democrats failed to make the majority for a third election. >> what was the day that any of you said to mitch mcconnell when they lost the senate three times in a row. aren't you getting a little old, mitch, shown you step aside? have you ever asked him that question? have you ever asked, have any of you ever asked him that question? so i don't understand why that question should even come up. i'm here as long as my members want me to be here. it's just as interesting as a woman to see how many times that question is asked of the woman and humanities that question is never asked of mitch mcconnell. >> mika, is that fair? >> yeah. in a big way. the question is has it been asked of mitch mcconnell? i don't know the answer. >> he's never been majority
leader before. >> but has it been asked in other -- i think it's a very good point. >> it's a good question to raise except for the fact if mitch mcconnell had lost this time, i think you know, that would have been third, fourth time in a row, then i think the question would have been asked of mitch mcconnell. i think mitch mcconnell would have been run out of town. >> i love nancy pelosi. i consider myself a feminist. i didn't see that as a gender related question. mitch mcconnell lost he would have been asked. >> would have asked the question of john boehner whether he should stay there or not and nancy's place here you got to look at the fact republicans have more seats in the u.s. house than they've had since 1929 and certainly at that point you have to start asking questions do we need to get new leadership? we ran newt out of town and we had a majority of four. >> if you listen to the rest of
the bite because it's amazing she goes on to make this point which is accurate as we discovered yesterday. she points out that they have not put on the cover of "time" magazine when she became the first female speaker of the house in the history of the house of representatives on the day that the republicans won and boehner became speaker he was on the cover of "time." last week when the senate became republican mcconnell was put on the cover of "time." she goes on length on this topic. she never occupied the cover of "time" magazine solo. it doesn't have to do with these questions whether she should step down now. but she had a burr under her saddle and not wrongly comparing the attention that those leaders got. >> i would agree because jeremy i was on the floor the day she got sworn in as the first female speaker of the house. it was an extraordinary day. >> that's right. i don't think you with minimize the very real hurdles and bias
she has faced, any woman in politics in a leadership position. that said i've been there when that question has been asked of mitch mcconnell. i know it has been asked. >> there you go. >> the other thing is that before the election, we were hearing very real concern, kind of nervousness that if republicans lost just how much bedlam would let loose and there would be a leadership purge, i garage you. >> i heard more discussion about ronald reagan running for office and being president in '69 than i've heard to date about hillary clinton. i don't see it. >> speaking of today top clinton aides, friends and donors with an eye to 2016 will descend on the bill clinton presidential library. they are celebrating its tenth anniversary. event also reflects the talk of the next potential clinton campaign another white house run by the former first lady. still there's some concern that democrats are getting ahead of themselves. during panel discussion former obama adviser david axelrod
urged the former secretary of state to quote get out of the cocoon of inevitableability. he added i think the danger for secretary clinton is that as was the case in 2007, her zandcy is out in front of the rationale for it. does it match? >> it's a fair statement. >> good way of putting it. >> she did not have a clear rationale in 2007 other than it was her turn and she was the inevitable candidate. that was a huge problem for her. she eventually found the message but too late in the spring of 2008. right now a lot is demanded of her to come up with a message early. she still has time. david's point seeing right at this moment beyond now it's her turn, her time there's not a clear articulating rationale for the candidacy. >> how do you get out of the
cocoon of inevitableilty. >> you shouldn't have come out with a book. >> how do you know everybody assumes you are. >> elizabeth warren has got to stake out her turf because there's no assumptions she will be the candidate. if you're hillary clinton you have to act as if. you run a successful business even when it's doing great as if it's in trouble. that's what you have to do with a presidential campaign. the great key to success in business even when you're on top run it as if you're going out of business. >> run scared. >> ask yourself the question, right now if elizabeth warren decided tomorrow she was going run for president nobody would have any lack of clarity why she was running. you could explain that in two sentences. right now hillary clinton you can't explain in two sentences. >> one of the famous moments, mika, in presidential history over the past 30, 40 years was when ted kennedy was going to
run in 1980 and everybody presumed he was going to destroy jimmy carter and he was interviewed by roger mudd who he considered to be a friend and roger mudd asked him the question, why do you want to be president? and it was the most pained tortured awkward response. he could not answer that simple question. and bluntly his presidential campaign never really took off and never recovered. hillary clinton right now couldn't answer that question. if somebody got a microphone in her face and asked her why do you want to run for president it might be the same thing. she couldn't even promote a book this summer. >> that's my question. >> without falling over herself. i'm wondering for somebody who has world renowned status like bill and hillary clinton they are known internationally, their name recognition will never go away. >> right. >> if for the past two years she had not come out with a book, had taken time off, kind of
disappeared almost and gone into hiding, do whatever she needs to do to sort of recover from serving as secretary of state which is a recovery process, it's exhausting, those jobs, would she be in a weaker position to run or a stronger one when she comes out of the box? >> if i were in her position -- >> or a book that comes out later on a real issue. >> if i were in her position i would be glad that i went on the book tour and had as many mistakes as i had because that would tell me boy i am not in mid-season form. this is not june of 2008. i better get ready this time. so maybe it was a disastrous pre-season. >> that was useful. >> and that's going to be useful. >> she was good on the stump for candidates this fall not to the point where she has a rationale for a candidacy. she was going good. she was very good --
>> what would she have lost by not doing anything? >> very hard for her, i think, to dropout of sight and go into a reclusive posture. >> she was campaigning, basically, in a shadow campaign form, coming out with a book. what would she have lost -- >> had not written the book? not very much. she might have learned a lot. she learned a lot even from the mistakes she made. >> as much as it's rationale, part of the problem is obama. you have to be -- she was part of his administration. he's been in office for years or will have been. clearly voters have soured on the guy. if he's in bad straits with poll numbers. >> you give us the answer. >> just tired of people just are ready to change. >> that's what i mean. >> it's as simple as that. her picture comes on, i just want to see -- >> she and jeb bush represent, i
really do believe this, a sort of sclerosis that's not only begun to clog up washington, d.c. that doesn't work, but american society at large. look at the fact that the rich keep getting richer. poor keep getting poorer. washington doesn't work. the irs doesn't work. the va doesn't work. there are no new ideas. this was the most shallow campaign that's ever been run other than the one that was run two years before that, other than the one that was run two years before that. they are campaigns about nothing but spending more and more money, more and more crony capitalism, more and more about k street throwing in money and wall street throwing in money and your answer is for an american electorate that are starving for something new, another bush and another clinton 25 years later. it's like south america somebody said in the 19th-century.
think about this. a bush in the white house in 1980. in 1984. in 1988. a clinton '92. a clinton in '96. a bush in 2000. a bush in 2004. not eight, not 12, in 16, in 20 you would have had a bush or clinton in the white house in 36 of 44 years. that is the definition of political sclerosis and that, to spend half a century that way between two warring political families, that is about as bad of a condemnation on this constitutional republic as i could imagine. >> except they are not warring. they are. >>gram friends. >> that makes it worse. actually that makes it worse. >> don't forget the last clinton in the state department. >> there's new information coming in on the fight against isis. iraqi officials tell the associated press that government
forces have just driven isis militant from a key oil refinery town 140 miles north of baghdad. isis is joining forces with an al qaeda linked group in syria. according to the ap the militants met at at that farmhouse last week and audiotape goode to stop fighting each other. new audiotape which nbc has not yet verified suggests leader of isis was not severely injured or killed in an air strike. joining us from across the syrian border in turkey, nbc chief foreign correspondent richard engel. richard? >> reporter: well, a lot of things that you just mentioned. first, the town where isis has been holding on to a key oil refinery the iraqi army has been trying to take it for months. according to iraqi officials justin last 24 hours or so they have managed to take another portion of the town, but frankly iraqi officials have claimed
this before. the iraqi government does not have much credibility in announcing its offensives. i would give it more time to see how much they really control the town and how much authority they have on the ground. the other report that isis and this al qaeda-linked front in syria are now making peace, eve also heard that before. those groups have a very similar ideology but they've had leadership issues in the past and it is not clear at all that they are now on the same sheet. i think eventually that will happen but i'm not sure if it's happened yet. in terms of the latest abu bakr al-baghdadi audiotape, i think that is probably the clearest development that we have so far. this is a recording, sounds very much like abu bakr al-baghdadi. in it he's making new threats, calling for new recruits and certainly does not sound as iraqi officials said last week that he was killed. >> you can catch richard engel
recording the battle against isis tonight at 9:00 p.m. on msnbc. richard, thank you very much. and jeremy peters, thank you as well. still ahead on "morning joe," alan alda, governor scott walker and yao ming join the conversation. plus kim kardashian's break the internet moment will finally be addressed here on "morning joe." >> we've been waiting. >> you know who will help us with this? suzie essman. she joins us in a few minutes. an odd couple for the ages. what brought the world's tallest and shortest living men. we'll being right back. >> love that picture.
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♪ all right. it's time for the morning papers. the times west virginia, west virginia university has suspended all fraternity and soroity activities after an 18-year-old student was found unconscious in a frat house. the decision comes a week after 19d pledges were involved in a brawl. the student remains in critical condition. university officials say the safety and well being of students is first priority. the matter continues to be investigated. >> people with kids in college, how bad it is. >> it's so frightening. >> "new york times," allegation during the bidding process to host the 2022 world cup. widespread allegations that the country won the rights by
providing the officials with personal favors. >> sam -- >> this is not fair. i get the fifa story. >> "daily mail" world's tallest and shortest living men joined forces yesterday to celebrate the 60th anniversary of the guinness world records. two metaphor the first time ever in london. the tallest 8'3" and the world's shortest at 21 1/2 inches tall. the men have a height difference. seven feet came together for a photo shoot. both plan to meet again. who would you rather be? >> definitely 8 feet. >> independent reports say there's a tiger loose in paris. french officials say it was spotted near disneyland and since there are no big cats at the theme park they have no idea where it came from. animal experts say judging by the pawprint the tiger is still young and weighs about 100
pounds. a helicopter is now assisting in the search and people in the area are being told to stay indoors. really? tiger on the loose? okay. still ahead, senator-elect cory gardner joins us in a few minutes. two tv legends working for the fundraiser time under the bright lights of broadway, alan alda and candice bergen join us on set. more "morning joe" straight ahead. ♪
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we want something else. >> it is now, we got emmy award winners alan alda and candice bergen. that's huge. they are now sharing the stage in the broadway show "love letters." this is an extraordinary concept. it's not fathom of the opera. there's not fog. a lot of broadway lately has become catchy and effects with people dangling from the audience. concept here pretty radical by 2014 standards. i can't wait to see it. tell us about it. >> we come out on stage and we read the letters between these two people who met in -- >> fourth grade. >> fourth grade. and then their letters extend over their whole lives and in the course of that you find out that they have never -- they are drawn to each other just like any two people in the world, they are drawn to each other but
can't quite fall into total sync. >> it's two actors you don't ever look at the other actor u-sit facing the audience side-by-side at a desk. it sounds thrilling, doesn't it? >> it actually does. you all just sort of look at each other for a little bit at the end, right? >> i never see her. never see her. the brilliance of this, your can't describe it. you got to experience it. the brilliance of the writing is such that given this minimal thing we're describing of the way we do it, you feel these people's lives. >> you go through christmas cards and you go through all this correspond and you always wonder was true love a lot closer to me than -- >> they are more in love than they know they are in ways that they don't understand. >> when we think about the two you doing this, who signed on first. did you know, candice that al
was going to do it? >> we have the same agent. >> there are different pairings doing this. how did you know you guys would get to be this love couple. >> we both said yes. that's the way it works in life. you have to say yes you just can't not say no. >> at the same time knowing you guys -- >> it just seemed ideal. >> the addition of the audience has been so much fun. >> it helps a lot. >> they not only laugh all through the play which sometimes came as a surprise to us because lines we thought were just normal speech turned out to be funny. because we are just playing the scene. but then you get the audience, when these characters get in trouble, last night a woman started sobbing and you could hear it from the stage. one night when they got in trouble a guy in the house went, oy! >> just quickly about the black list. >> yeah. >> i lost my head on the black
list. >> people watching lost their head over that episode too. they western expecting what was going to come with that. >> that's one of the fun things with that show. you don't know what will happen again. you get involved with somebody, they die you get used to him being dead and he's back again. >> i don't know if america is ready to do that to alan alda. >> they don't mind. >> you can see alan alda and candice bergen in "love letters" through through december 18th. we'll be right back. ♪ mmm mmm mmm mm mmm mm mmmmmm here we go, here we go, here we go.
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and i indicated to speaker boehner several months ago that if, in fact, congress failed to act i would use all the lawful authority that i possess to try to make the system work better. and that's going to happen. the minute they pass a bill that i can sign, that fixes our immigration system, then any executive actions i take are replaced. >> i had maybe naively hoped the president would look at the results of the election and decide to come to the political center and do some business with us. i still hope he does at some point. but the early signs are not good. let me tell you who did get the message. and that was senate democrats. i think they got the message on the keystone pipeline. that's why you've seen the current majority in the senate have an epiphany and have a vote
that they have been blocking. >> president obama and mitch mcconnell talking about immigration and keystone pipeline two big topics dominating the conversation on capitol hill. one of the lawmakers who helped give republicans control of the senate, senator-elect cory gardner of colorado. congratulations, sir. >> congratulations, cory. great to have you with us. we heard so many great things about you. many people said you ran the best campaign of 2014. that's like going on the air and saying i'm not a witch. >> had a lot of good people around me. >> one of the things that was striking to me on election night, when you won, you know, so many times people get elected and they clinch their fist and say this is our time. but you said something that really stuck out to me and i thought it was great. you said this isn't about republicans, this isn't about democrats, this is about a washington that doesn't work. we have to fix it. how important do you think that was to your victory, not some
ideological wave. >> i think it's the colorado way. if you look at colorado in 20808, 2010, 2014, this is a state that's electing people based on what they think they will do to break the gridlock not what they will do for their party or deposition or republicans and that's what we have to do as a whole as a nation as congress is making sure we're approaching at any time same way for all of america. >> we covered your race closely. i talked about the "denver post" endorsemen. what did do you when you opened up the newspaper and found out the "denver post" had endorsed you. >> i'll never forget where i was. i was at a press conference with the governor. we were at one of the roads that had been destroyed in the flooding last year. and my staff came up and told me right there and i was stunned. so for the first time at a press conference i was really, really quiet. they were very happy with me. >> let me go down the checklist here. unfortunately, there's some voices out there that mitch
mcconnell doesn't appreciate. talk of a government shutdown. is there anyway you could support a government shutdown or a default on the debt as mitch mcconnell was saying yesterday there's no way he ever could. >> absolutely not. there's no time, place or purpose of a government shutdown or default. that's ridiculous. something that a mature governing body doesn't even contemplate. so over the next several weeks, over the next several days as we put together that agenda the first 100 days of accomplishment to the american people, we ought to make it very clear that simply is not acceptable. >> if republicans have a rob with immigration then they need to take it up that way and not by shutting down the government >> republicans need have a solution. republicans have to have ideas on immigration reform. i support immigration reform making sure we start where american people want to it start, border security. bring a small guest worker program because that has to be part and parcel of border security. but to simply say no i believe is unacceptable. just to say no to everything is
unacceptable. that's the message that american people sent on tuesday night. the president needs to do the right thing and work with congress. >> you say you just can't say no to everything. what issues do you think you can meet in the middle on that perhaps your party didn't do so much of in the past. >> i think there's opportunities to put a number of bills on the president's desk in a bipartisan fashion whether it's the keystone pipeline that we're about to do with bill cassidy or making sure we repeal the medical device tax, making sure we're putting solutions forward to grow our economy, get our country back to work and prove to the american people that tuesday night's lessons won't be forgotten. i said on election night coloradans are not red or blue but krystol clear like the rocky mountain air. they want congress to do its job and get out of the way. >> i'm curious the exit polls were screwed up in colorado. we don't know in a definitive way what percentage of the hispanic vote you got.
have you guys done that, do you know what the answer? >> there's various reports showing higher than what mitt romney had in terms of 2012 but the bottom line is this. we were reaching out. we went into the hispanic communities across colorado in one county in pueblo county in colorado one of the largest counties in the state, we did very well. in fact i think we may have tied with senator udall or lost by a couple hundred votes. we made significant inroads and because we've talked about the need to grow our economy, education, opportunities, things we can do together. >> if the president goes ahead and goes this executive action on immigration do you feel the next step is for congress to take it up as he's suggesting and try to do a bill that would meet the president's criteria have a pathway to citizenship or do you think immigration reform be dead if he goes ahead and does this executive action. >> i hope to president will do the right in this. tuesday night sent the message to all of us we should work
together. to me the right thing isn't to use a bully pulpit to force your way or maintain the monopoly because you think your ideas are the only ideas. the bottom line the house and senate should work together. people said we've tried to do that. it can take time. let's get together. let's work. let's use this new era of goodwill if that's what you want to call it as an opportunity to do something instead of talking about it or do things that create bigger problems. >> congratulations on winning. your position of work together. what do you say to a ted cruz in your party who basically says the president is a man of lawlessness, we need to repeal health care, the entire direction of the party should be to stop president obama at any cost. so, let's give mr. cruz a little religion, if you will, on kind of your -- >> what's your obsession with ted cruz. seriously. everybody in the mainstream media brings up ted cruz. >> everything is opposite -- >> ted cruz is like alone in his
own caucus. >> i want this new wave. >> he's running for president. >> i want this new wave of republican main stay to say like people like me say boy you were out of line. >> cory, donny wants you to correct a sitting senator before you even are sworn in. >> that's how you make a lot of friends. one of things i think we have to do is simply this. republicans can't object posed to everything. if we're opposed to something let's come up with an idea how we do it better or why our ideas are better in terms of not doing that but doing something different. what we have to do is present that opportunity front, the opportunity agenda, the ways we can do something that matters to the american people. we can't simply say no or be opposed. that i hope is the new way forward for the next two years. >> that's the message for ted cruz. >> for all of us. >> that's the message to american people.
>> he's stirring the pot. >> there's an obsession with ted cruz you and so many people on the left have. >> ted cruz feeds it. >> senator, chow what he stands for, he stands for running for president and getting a conservative faction to follow him that feel disenfranchised up. >> senator i want to follow up on what john was asking. i want to get more specifics out of you which is if you do respond, the republican party does respond to the president with some sort of immigration reform plan to supersede his executive action what do you envision is in that plan. >> i haven't been part of those discussions with the senate or house leadership in what they would do to supersede any kind of executive order. we heard people talk about what it may or may not be. bottom line is we have this opportune in time for the president to do the right thing. to work with congress and the
house and senate and for republican leadership, republicans in the house and senate come together and realize we have to do something. whatever the president does by executive order it won't be the kind of fixes we need to the overall system to make sure it's built to last for the next 30 to 40 years instead of having the pieces and parts that we have today. >> let me skit another way. i know you don't want to shut down the government. there's been some news reported that house republicans may consider a lawsuit over it. is that something that you think is appropriate? >> again, i don't know who is considering a lawsuit and i don't know the extent of executive power. the bottom line is this instead of charging each other with lawsuits or executive action or abuses of power why don't we do what the american people sent us to do, let's work together. be the grown ups in the room. get the job done. >> thank you. >> thank you so much, cory. great to have you with us. senator cory gardnering thank you. bob costas wrote in "the
washington post" that's what john boehner will do. let the courts decide. which seems actually if you got a political question that seems like the way to do it. >> bob costas is not covering football. >> robert costas. >> coming up, our next guest explains what the mid-term elections were really about. >> donny -- >> orchestrate my god look at this. comedian and actress suzie essman from curve joins us next. a secure retirement. a new home. earning your diploma.
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>> i'm done. i'm over it. i'm turned off. leave. get the [ bleep ] out. okay. >> i'm turned off. leave. joining us now from "curb your enthusiasm," comedian susie essman. >> who says no to a house tour? was i wrong? >> no. >> i do feel -- >> you know what, though, everybody is like -- larry does what everybody wants to do. >> exactly. where is larry. >> he's in l.a. but he'll be back because he has a new broadway play starting february 2nd. yesterday. die the voice over. i know the exact dates. >> how much of that is good. is it like okay you guys are going to fight about a house tour. >> it will say something like larry comes in, gives something to jeff. susie says want a tour of the
house, larry says no, susie gets mad. i'm turned off we just make it up. >> susie, you're at the comedy club tonight, tomorrow. i have a feeling you're going to talk about kim kardashian. >> i'm not. i don't talk about -- because i don't care. that's all she's got. let her flaunt it. what else does she have? that's her talent. >> look how big that blur has to be. >> donny, don't you think she's kind a brilliant advertising person? >> actually, her mom is actually -- although i did, one night, i have to say this, i was on leno. following them. >> oh, my god. >> i turned to her and she said, what's your brand? and she said, my fans. so the answer's no. but her mother's brilliant actually. >> i don't talk about -- i can't give them energy. it annoys me that i even know who they are. >> why does it annoy you? >> because why do i have them in my head? why do i know their napes? i don't follow them.
why are they taking up space in my head? >> exactly. why? what have they done to us? because i know -- i know kris, the mom. and then the kids, kourtney and -- i know this stuff. >> why, why? >> because you can't avoid it. >> i've somehow avoided it. >> no you haven't. who's kim kardashian. what size panties does she wear? you know. >> i don't know. so what are you going to talk about? >> tonight? >> yeah. >> i never know. i'll probably talk about my kids and my husband and my mother who's driving me crazy. >> you got four kids. three of them out of the house. not sure what they were doing. i was asking if they were coke dealers. you said they could be. >> well, you never know what you're doing. >> you never know with kids. you do know you're not paying their rent. >> no, it's incredible. three out of the four. by the way, the empty nest, which you have not experienced yet, every day feels like you're
on vacation. >> really? >> it's amazing. they'll all be home thanksgiving. what's going to happen is all of a sudden what are we doing for dinner? what's for dinner? like i'm the menu planner. they live on their own. they shop, they cook. they come home -- >> they revert. >> three meal, a day, i have to plan. >> you don't miss them? >> no. look, i had dinner with them the other night in the city. i love the adult relationship. i still pick up the check, you know, and then we go to the supermarket and i pay for everything there. but when i'm not there, they're on their own. >> i've been having kids for 26 years. >> you did it wrong. >> i will never be an empty nester. >> how old is your youngest? >> 6. >> i have a 7-year-old. i love it. >> it's wrong at your age, donny. it's so wrong. >> joe, why do i have the kids, you know. >> because donny actually uses the kids, like a lot of people -- >> they're props. >> in college, guys buy cute puppy dogs, walk them across the quad. donny actually had kids, he
actually gets women pregnant because he wanted three, four, five years from now, to be able to go through central park and pick up women. >> he's right. >> he uses his children as props. >> donny, again -- >> -- pathetic human beings. >> i do love them. >> if that's the only way you can get women. what's going to happen is they're going to see your kids, they're going to see you, they're going to think you're grandpa. you have to explain yourself. it's not going to be pretty in the end. >> they think i'm a renaissance man. >> they think you're grandpa. >> good lord. >> can i say honestly i understand the old guys wanting younger women, but i find it absolutely repulsive. >> i always date age appropriate women. >> really? >> i'm not that old, first of all. >> uh-huh. okay, sure. >> 47 is not that old, okay. >> 47? >> 47 is not -- >> get out of here. in what lifetime. >> i'm going to be 57. >> he's lived a rough life.
>> what is your tinder profile say? >> i'm not on tinder. >> liar. >> all right, so susie, when you're talking tonight and you're doing your stand-up routine, you're not going to go the kim kardashian route and you say you don't know who taylor swift is. but you stay away from pop? >> i don't stay away from anything. it's just what's interesting to me. taylor swift doesn't enter me. >> does ted cruz? >> ted cruz interests me. the fact that joe is a denier of ted cruz. >> yes. >> thank you. >> joe's humiliated by the existence of ted cruz so he doesn't -- you just want to say, ted cruz, pooh pooh it, when the reality is he's your guy. >> thank you, susie. >> i like ted cruz. >> what do you like about him? >> he's a good guy. >> what is this good guy? >> this whole i'd like to have a beer with this guy does not fly with me. >> why not? because he doesn't believe what you believe? >> not only does he not believe what i believe, he doesn't believe what he believes.
>> how do you know that? >> i don't. >> you know what, thank you for admitting that. >> i love her. >> really, half of these people i think are char latins. . i think it's just an attention-getting device. i don't think they really believe these things they're saying. >> it's like kim kardashian pulling down her -- >> my husband and i watch you every morning. >> that's nice. >> with our coffee in bed with our little puppy dog. who we have not to pick up people but because we love the animal. it's a sincere -- >> i don't not love my children, i'm just going back to the motivation for having them. >> keep on having them, populate the world. >> you were saying how you don't believe in science. >> i was joking. >> i hope so because if you don't believe in science, then you have to give up everything that -- you can't go to a hospital. you can't have a cell phone. you can't have a toilet that functions. >> susie, you're making me so tired right now. >> you can't have coffee. >> you weren't denying science
yesterday, were you? what happened when i was gone? i took the day off. >> i was so bad -- >> tomorrow is 8:00 -- >> i saw you took a day off. you took a mental health day. >> i took a mental health day. i haven't done that -- i can't remember ever. i always come back on my vacations. i never really take time off. >> well, that's not good, mika. >> i'm going to now. >> what's like your relaxation? >> i went to see my daughter and it was so nice. >> in college? >> yes. and we sat in bed and watched youtube videos. >> she runs like six or seven miles. that's how she relaxes. that's just not good. >> no, who wants to run? >> not me. >> not me either. >> unless somebody's chasing me. >> maybe i'll go to the gotham tonight. >> come, it will be funny. >> this is my girl crush. u.s. is susie, thank you so much. also come back when larry come because we need to keep him in check when he sits here and says nothing and is totally uncooperative. >> does he do that?
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it is 8:00 a.m. on the east coast. welcome to "morning joe." we have donny deutsch and in washington jeremy peters. >> you were right. >> what? >> oh, i know. >> dude's on his cell phone. >> mark my words -- i'm going to take it a step further. he was texting, i bet, before the phone call. >> so he's on his cell phone. the secret services guy, while the other dude breaks into the white house and he's on his cell phone. >> these cell phones are changing our society. >> -- his backup radio inside. >> distracted -- >> he turned off the radio he's supposed to have on because he's on his cell phone and he doesn't want -- it's unbelievable. talk about the scathing report, mika, that's just been released. >> that's the bottom line. this is on the white house security breach that happened in september. the department of homeland security fault secret service
agents for nearly a dozen performance organizational and technical failures. those errors allowed omar gonzalez to jump the white house fence with a knife, run across the north lawn and enter the first family's home. he then overpowered a female secret service officer and ran across the 80-foot east room before he was apprehended. the report states the secret soips's alarm systems and radios did not work properly. a uniformed secret service officer with an attack dog was also allegedly taking -- taking on a cell phone instead of listening to a two-way radio. his standby radio was in his locker. >> what else i don't understand is they had agents that drew guns on this guy and he -- they go, well be we don't think he's armed. so they drew their guns. he ran past them. i think there was even an agent in the white house, inside the
white house, where he came in, drew his gun and said, well, he doesn't look armed. i mean, donny, oh, my god. the guy had a knife on him. that equals armed. if there had been a civilian or somebody walking around the white house, he could have grabbed them. listen, i'm sorry, i don't care who it is. if they're racing there, the presumption has to be they're armed. not that they're not armed. >> either way, shoot them. you're running into my house, if i have a gun, i'm going to take you down. it's almost beyond comprehension. >> shoot 'em. >> look -- >> they're in the white house. >> we talked about this and, you know, this -- let's call it a snafu to be nice. it's just one more example -- >> like a dozen snafus. >> institutions, you know, whether it is the irs, whether it is the veterans administration, whether it is the secret service, you know, where -- >> government doesn't work. >> when does it work? when does it get right? it's stunning.
it's really stunning. >> i think the story here is really about tablets and cell phones. as we move forward, security jobs and other jobs that demand complete focus and attention. the question is is are they going to be allowed to have -- >> there's also the question why you don't shoot somebody once they're inside the white house. because you're presuming they're not armed. >> i read somewhere that it's hard -- an article i read. it's really a lot more complicated to shoot someone in the leg than you think it is. >> yeah, okay. >> at the same time, don't they have taser guns or something they could do to inpempede a ma with a knife? >> we are tracking -- >> at the end of the day, he's a dad. can you imagine what must have went down that day with him, with his kids in there? can you imagine? >> the guy ran right past the staircase to go upstairs to where the kids are. >> that's not even the first
thing. there was a shooter who shot at the white house from way down the street that they covered up essentially for a while. the first family must be absolutely gassed. >> we'll be following that. let's get to the big story. oh, boy, fireworks. >> i think so. >> are we going to see more of the same? is there some sort of diversion from the norm? president obama said this morning he'll move to overhaul parts of the immigration system by the end of the year and it's already raising the prospect of a government shutdown within some circles of the gop. "the new york times" reports the white house plan would prevent the deportation of as many as 5 million undocumented immigrants. it would reform the role of law enforcement, add more security to the border, and allow the parents of children born in the u.s. to get work documents. the plan would also boost opportunities for more legal immigrants with expertise in technology. yesterday, house democrats called on the president to take decisive action even if it came
without full congressional backing. some republicans, meanwhile, are threatening a shutdown, saying they want to hold up the budget. >> let's not do that. >> you've got a "w." a big "w." >> well, let's see. let's listen to what they say about this. because perhaps their tone shows they know they've won and it's time for kind of a new approach. >> are you being sarcastic? >> no, i mean, i'm hoping what we're about to see is a real change. >> -- shutting the government down, threatening default on the national debt -- >> even if he goes forward on immigration? >> we will not be shutting the government down or threatening default on the national debt. >> we're going to fight the president tooth and nail if he continues down this path. this is the wrong way to govern. all the options are on the table. we're having discussions with our members. there are no decisions made as
to how we will fight this. >> i think mitch mcconnell said it pretty straight. no government shutdown, right, jeremy peters? >> he did. although it may not be entirely his choice. john boehner once again is having to wrestle with the tea party faction in his caucus and i think what's going -- what's likely to happen here is the president's going to wait until after congress deals with the budget to do anything. so congress therefore can't shut down the government in response to what the president has done on illegal immigration. but i do think there is a serious, serious amount of caution inside the republican party right now. especially among the new senate majority or the incoming senate majority. that shutting down the government would completely squander all of the gains that they just made. all of the good will that they have among the public right now. >> explain that. why do you think that is? >> i think the first thing they want to do -- the first thing they do when they come back, after they're elected, the
majority party in congress for the first time since 2006, is they come in and shut down the government? i think that would look horrible. i think republicans would get blamed for that. >> well, they did last time. >> they certainly did. i will say, it's a little bit different this time because when the president acts unilaterally on just about anything, that has less public support. and we've seen that in the past just this whole notion of executive action on immigration to allow these people to stay here without going through congress. that has proven unpopular. not just in states like arkansas. but in states like colorado and iowa. i do think that's a concern for democrats. >> this was the republicans, blame for the government shutdown in 2013. we've heard a couple of republicans talk about this. but the overwhelming majority are just not going to go there. >> look at what mitch mcconnell
has to deal with in the senate. he has people up for re-election this year in very blue states. mark kirk, ron johnson, pat toomey. they're all in predominant -- obama won state. so he has to grapple with that calculus. that's not the cam k lus john boehner has to battle with. even if the dynamics are different. a shutdown would go straight to the president's desk. i can't imagine -- >> it's not going to do it, they're just not going to do it. >> much more likely for them to put this into the lawsuit they're already going after the president on for his -- >> don't talk about a shutdown. don't talk about impeachment. don't talk about default. you know, you're now moving towards 2016 and have a chance to win the white house and keep it away from the clintons for eight more years. don't talk about those things. >> all the republicans have to do is just stay center right and
not show -- >> the interesting thing about this is twofold, number one, we talk about this -- the republican win would actually energize obama and we're seeing it with that neutral thing. he's starting to double down. he's like, you know, kind of backed in a corner. he's coming out fighting. you've got the hispanics. obviously we know how crucial there are. this will now force republican candidates -- how harsh do they come out against the president? and now the spotlight is back on the fractured republican -- >> i have a prediction. i think they let it pass. write it down. i think they let it pass. they're screaming and yelling from the right. and it just becomes the law. because they don't want to pass their own immigration bill. this becomes the law of the land. the people that are running in the blue states. like you said, the republicans running the blue states say yeah, i didn't oppose it. i didn't like the way he did it.
there are some good reforms there. the right wingers can scream and yell and say he should be impeached. the people running for president, the governors running for president, they can all go, yeah, these were things that needed to happen. it sort of eases it along. the courts are taking the gay marriage debate out of the hands of a lot of republican candidates. >> conveniencconvenience. >> a lot republicans want to win in 2016 who will say let that pass. >> i totally agree with you. i think that's probably the smart strategic move. it's easier to say listen, we're against executive action and put aside the politics on this. that way you don't enrage the hispanic population. but you can talk about obama overreach. it's a simple play for mitch mcconnell and anyone running in 2016. >> oh, lord. and then there's the keystone pipeline which is set for a
house vote today. the issue was fast tracked in large part to the runoff between landrieu and cassidy, both trying to show they can provide for the state. supporters say it will create thousands of american jobs. some analysts suggest the falling price of crude means its market value may be less than it costs to transport and produce here in the u.s. the president, who retains his veto power, weighed in on the issue this morning while on his trip to asia. >> as a policy matter, my government believes that we should just this pipeline based on whether or not it accelerates climate change or whether it helps the american people with their energy costs and their gas prices. and i have to constantly push back against this idea that
somehow the keystone pipeline is either this massive jobs bill for the united states or is somehow lowering gas prices. understand what this project is. it is providing the ability of canada to pump their oil, send it through our land, down to the gulf, where it will be sold everywhere else. that doesn't have an impact on u.s. gas prices. >> major environmental questions as well. do you think he should veto it? >> i think if he vetoes, he proves he's captive to big money on the left. there's just no other way to put it. you look at his own state department. they say this is more environmentally sensitive. having a pipeline, continue to allow trunks and tankers to move this oil around. they say it's going to create 45,000, 55,000 new jobs. is this going to cause this great renaissance of like american -- you know, american
workforce? no. but it's 45,000, 55,000 jobs. >> a massive bargaining chip, is that what you're saying? >> no, what i'm saying is there's no good -- there's no logical reason whatsoever for the president to veto this, other than hard core ideologues on the left who spend billions of dollars on democratic campaigns. don't want him to do it. that is the only reason why. this is donny and sam, this is a growing problem i think for democrats. as a republican, i've seen for some time, oh, gee, this issue is breaking against republicans. we talked about gay marriage before. this is an issue that's going to break against republicans. we're the younger generation. this growing energy revolution where we're going to be the number one producer of oil by 2020 and it's going to cause manufacturing and everything to go down. democrats are actually on the wrong side of that issue. of an historical trend. and somebody has to help them, in my opinion. >> i tend to see the politics
here, which is there's going to be enough support for this thing to probably pass. and the question becomes what did the president get as a let me leverage point for it. in exchange, we'll do these types of environmental regulations on our coal plants so we have a net neutral carbon deal in place. we don't leave in a logical political world. we live in a world where landrieu needs to be rescued in her senate race. >> i've been saying this for a year. you give me minimum wage increase to $9.15 and i will -- >> the crazy part is any point he could have leveraged that for something. now he may end up with a veto proof majority in the senate and have no leverage. >> the president still has the power to say i'm going to veto this bill. i'm going to send it back to you, attach $9.15 minimum wage increase to it, and i'll sign it. you'll see a lot of those
republicans in the senate that are in those blue states that are going to be running in 2016 saying, i'll be be a part of that. we'll see what the house does. >> still ahead this hour on "morning joe," republican governor scott walker join us fresh off his successful bid for re-election. former nba great turned animal activist yao ming will be here on set. coming up, americans are quitting their jobs at a higher ration than any other point for the past six years. >> i've been thinking about it for the past six years. i have quit, i seriously have. at one point, they're going to let me. >> time off. we'll tell you why that's a good thing, next. first. >> bill karins, it is cold out there, my man. very cold. >> it's been a brutal stretch, joe. the snow continues. i mean, when the temperatures are like midwinter, we're going to get midwinter weather. we've got a lot of snow and ice. yesterday, this was very impressive. this happened in ohio. a very strong lake-effect snow band. take a listen.
that wasn't a tree falling. that's thundersnow. the thunderclap you heard. it's pretty cool it happens at night because of the colors of the lightning and snow, it actually shows an eerie green. usually you get really heavy snow rates. in erie pennsylvania, they had 14 inches. bear alaska, there's three hours of daylight today. the sun doesn't come up until about 11:30 and it sets at 2:00. it's 30 degrees. that's balmy by bear standards. it is colder in hot-lanta than it is in bear, alaska. so we're still cold. it snowed a little bit last night but an inch or two from connectic connecticut, rhode island. we're still dealing with the really chilly air in the northern plains with windchills around zero. let me take you through your weekend forecast. today, really not too bad. still cold but not horrible.
saturday, light snow from kansas city to chicago. 1 to 2 inches is likely. by sunday, we're watching temperatures still kind of cool but not horrible. the next cold blast, by the way, comes in monday, tuesday, wednesday. it's targeting the great lakes and the northeast. the northeast kind of avoided this last one. it's going to be really cold next week. we're in the middle of winter, it seems like, doesn't it? you're watching "morning joe." we'll be right back.
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did "the new york post" really give the mayor -- >> he was late for an important event. >> i think "the new york post" gave the mayor an alarm clock. he's smiling. >> he needs one. it's rude to be late. >> at least he took it in stride. >> it's rude. you can't be late. >> i have never been late to memorials where you ring a bell to commemorate the deaths of people in airplane crashes because i overslept. no, you know what, i may be late once in a while, not as much as i used to. i'm never late because i oversleep. that first event, that is the one event you have complete control over. >> so i think it's also a man/woman thing. i think women are always on time. >> are you punctual? >> that is so sexist. >> like a job interview, a woman will be there 45 minutes ear
ye earlier or a meeting. whenever i have meet holdings that are all women, we're all early. i'm like, oh, my god. then a bunch of guys -- >> joe, will you apologize -- >> i am actually feeling objectified right now, donny deutsch. >> like talking about stupid stuff. >> "the wall street journal." a new report indicates the justice department is collecting data from thousands of phones through devices installed on small airplanes. equipped with so-called dirty boxes which have technology -- that sounds nice. that have technology similar to cell phone towers allowing them to track calls. a large number of innocent americans are also getting snagged by their dirty boxes. >> oh, my. >> we look at the "los angeles times." hatchet and amazon have reached a deal over ebook and -- >> is this a big deal? >> will allow hatchet to set its own prices for e-books. amazon is going to resume the
sale of hatchet books immediately. just in time for the holiday season. which is most likely -- >> but, you know, there's some really good competition. >> a lot of good authors got squeezed in that. >> "the washington post." the presidential bromance between george w. bush and bill clinton has spilled over into social media. somewhat of a hash tag duel. clinton called it a touching tribute before using a hash tag, asking bush 43, quote, how are you still not on twitter. that's when bush took to instagram write, thanks, 42, using the hash tag, how are you still not on instagram. and brother from another mother. >> wow. >> i think it's funny because i think bush burned clinton because instagram is a little bit cooler. >> it is, it's kind of hipper. >> but you know what, bill clinton's advisers obviously trying to keep him from posting
pictures. i mean, you can understand, right? >> yes. >> bush also had this to say about a potential 2016 matchup between his brother and hillary clinton. >> can still like him when jeb beats hillary. you betting on that? >> if jeb runs -- i don't know if he's going to run, i really don't. i hope he does because he'd be a great president. >> there you go. >> nothing tests a bromance like when your son is competing against your best friend's wife. >> it's just a little too close, you know. >> sibling, yeah. >> just weeks after winning re-election as governor of wisconsin, scott walker is already planning some big change, for the badger state. he'll tell us ways first on his agenda next when "morning joe" returns. they're still after me. get to the terminal across town.
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lack of transparency is a huge political advantage. basically call it the stupidity of the american voter or whatever but basically that was really, really critical to getting the thing to pass. >> professor numbnuts here wasn't the worst thing to happen to obamacare this week. on friday, the supreme court agreed to hear another legal challenge that could kill the law. the last two times i declared
obamacare dead, i dropped balloons and twerked on the grim reaper. looking back, i think that was a little immature. so tonight we're going to slow dance. jimmy. ♪ just close my eyes and i need you ♪ >> all right. joining us now -- >> weird segue. >> that was a -- >> republican governor scott walker of wisconsin. that had nothing to do with you. good to have you on the show. nice to see you again. >> mika, i'm with you. i like to be early. we call that lombardi time in wisconsin. i don't think men are usually on time ever. that's nice to know. >> it's a safe -- >> coach lombardi used to say if you're not 15 minutes ahead of time, you're not there on time. >> i don't think i would have been able to play with the packers in the 1960s.
>> you need to learn. >> scott, obviously, a lot people talking about you this morning. kimberly strasle has a great article about you in "the wall street journal." she says this, scott walker's 2016 challenge still give a lot of republican leaders pause about scott walker as well. the wisconsin's dynamo's good but the knock on him is he knows it. he has a reputation as a one-man band. chief fund-raiser. and chief political analyst. he's known to listen to a few trusted wisconsin gurus. for the most part, it's an -- i could go on and on. that is actually the only negative part in an otherwise very strong -- very strong article about you. but obviously the age of obama, we worry about sort of these lone wolves that don't have a lot of other people around them. do you agree with her assessment? "the wall street journal's"
assessment? >> i thought it was a pretty good column. the one part, no surprise, i disagree with. i'm going to be meeting with a number of members of my cabinet. you can see it. i'm going to talk with them again. just as i did last wednesday, the day after our re-election. in fact, one of your biggest fans is my secretary of tourism, going to meet with this morning. an emmy award winning former host of a tourism show here in wisconsin. that's the people we surround ourselves. my political team, i've expanded the circle of folks on the team. even after the initial election. we added some folks nationally because we knew we'd have to raise the funds and get the interest that -- >> so scott if somebody had told me that in 2008, in wisconsin, that the next election, you'd have a guy run who would win
three statewide elections in four years that conservatives loved in wisconsin, i would have told them they were crazy. what's happened. how have you done it over the past few years without betraying your conservative ideals? >> certainly wisconsin at best is a swing state. we're probably more of a blue state. more democrats than republicans four years ago. everything was democrat. governor, assembly, senate. majority of seats in the house of representatives. we changed things because we focused on fiscal and economic issues that were challenging our state and really our country at the time. and then we did something unusual in politics. i think more than anything the reason why i've been elected three types, the reason why the legislature added republican seats even after adding them two years ago, added them again this time, is because we're leaving. our reforms are working. $3 billion worth of savings. property taxes are down. tuition is frozen.
110,000 new jobs. all those things are real tangible results. i think people like the reforms. they like results. they like the fact that unlike washington where it's largely dysfunctional, we're largely getting things done. >> a lot of factors that go into a decision to run for president. so i won't ask you if you will run. i'm just wondering, do you want to run for president? >> well, i get a kick out of this. i'm pretty candid. you almost have to be crazy to want to run for president. my belief is -- >> are you crazy? no. do you want to do it? would you want to run for president? do you want to run for president? >> the difference is i think you shouldn't -- that's not something you should want to do. anybody who's been close realizes the tremendous sacrifice. but it's one of those where if you feel called to -- right now, i feel called to be governor. 2, 6, 12 years from now, who knows. we could be called to do that.
it's really something, when you think about taking a decade and committing that to the public service that's required to be effective in that job, i mean, you look at this president, look at the former president you were just talking about. there's a lot of gray hairs that come after a decade of seeking and being in that office. >> you've gotten -- there's been some attention given to some criticisms you've leveled towards governors who decided to take the medicaid expansion. you've made the argument kind of in practical terms. you said you don't want to count on congress to deliver those funds. i'm curious, in ideological terms, republican governors deci decided are not genuine conservatives. is there an ideological criticism to this? >> i'm not going to criticize fellow governor because i recognize there's 50 states. what's good for wisconsin may not be good for other states. besides the practical reality you mentioned, this president
and congress until now hasn't been able to fund the current medicate commitment. beyond that, i just ask the basic question. why is more people on medicaid a good thing? i'd rather find a way, particularly for able-bodied adults without children, i'd like to find a way to get them into the workforce. i think ideologically, that's a better approach, not just as a conservative, but as an american. have more people live the american dream if they're not dependent on the american government. >> could you be a support of the common core and be a good conservative? >> again, everybody's got a different view in my viewpy don't want standards set by people from outside of my state. that's what we're continuing to pursue. my state has the second best act scores in the country. so i'd like high standards. i just like the parents and members of our communities here in wisconsin to set them, not people outside of my state. >> there's interesting talks earlier today about wall street
worrying about governor christie in part because of his testament. we sort of contrast that with your even keeled approach. i'm wondering what role do you think temperament plays not just in a presidential campaign but in governing and how important it is. >> it's a little different state by state. christie's a great friend of mine. one of the things i point out -- i've said this in front of chris. i said chris and i are a lot alike. we like to be bold. we like to speak out. i have a little bit of a midwestern filter. that's a little different from the state i'm in versus new jersey where i think it's appropriate. that's why i love him for it. he's straight forward. i like to tell it like it is. i just tell it in midwestern terms which is a little different than what works on the east coast. that's one of the great things about great leaders. they fit the states. >> that new jersey filter works for him. governor, thank you. still ahead, we've got a behind the scenes look of a great of
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nearby. >> the ultimate motivation at the end of the day is not simply whether you have more money in your bank account but whether you've done something creative. whether the world is a better place because of the work you've put into it. >> the founder of the women's elevate network. its mission to promote the economic engagement of women worldwide. >> i'm very engaged, impassioned about, consumed by, on sensed with the advancement of women in business. there are very few people who being chaed the world or changed business if they weren't passionate about it. the right thing to do, the smart thing to do for me came together in advancing gender diversity in business. >> robert is the executive creative director at google create ill lab. >> if you have a compelling purpose, that attracts the right people. and from that, you know, are born great projects and great products. only thing as a manager you have to do is create the process that
gets out of the way. >> these two impulses of having a mission and being a successful business don't need to be at odds. they can be aligned. and if the mission is chosen appropriately, they should be. >> generation flux. >> cool. >> generation flux. >> coming in very nicely. >> it is. >> it's a very heavy -- >> what do we have next? >> time for business before the bell. cnbc's sara eisen joins us open in. let's talk about retail sales. >> showing .3% gain. it shows strength in the american consumption. important, makes up most of our economy. if you take out oil, which has been lower, sales were even better. they were up half a percent. it showed broad-based strength. americans buying autos, spending more at restaurants.
spending more on clothing. on health care. the only sort of negative one was electronics. but that was partly because the last month actually showed the spikeup with the release of the new iphone 6. that was expected. overall, painting a solid picture of americans and retail spending. it just follows on some better day that weem seen it looking at the jobs number, you can go in and find more color. for instance, this week, we got a report showing most americans are actually quitting at the fastest rate that they've been quitting in years. 2% of employees are quitting. that's actually a good sign because it means they have the confidence to go out and find a job elsewhere. hopefully, that will lead to increased wage growth is really the missing piece of this labor market recovery. i just thought it was interesting that more americans are feeling good about their jobs so they can quit. >> i like it. that is a good sign. up next -- >> i quit, by the way. >> take this job and -- >> people won't believe you if
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yao is a man of action. he doesn't just want to be a part of the message, he wants to lead the way it as he has always done. and that means walking side by side with fants and ry s eleph rhino in africa. >> really it's a race against time to get people to care su sufficie sufficiently. >> i believe if you want to learn what the truth and also the situation about an animal, you have to go to africa so we can see how they live, how they've been hunted and what is the consequence of them. >> a new approach is needed.
can yao carry this message home and carry thousands of years of tradition putting ivory on the no go list for millions of consumers? >> that was a clip from the animal planet special saving africa's giants with yao ming. here with us now is retired nba baseball superstar yao ming and the executive producer of wild aid peter knights. it's a fantastic special you put together. especially for people who are not familiar with the poaching epidemic happening internationally. so explain for us first why you wanted to put this documentary together and why you wanted to partner with yao ming. >> we worked together for a long time, mainly on shark fin soup. so as you said, people don't know about this. they don't know where it's coming from. especially in china. this film has aired in china. it's going to go worldwide.
it's really about education. most people when they know they wouldn't go near ivory but they don't. they don't understand the process. >> so american consumers can know what to stay away from. >> well it's elephants are being poached at the rate of 30,000 a year it 96 a day. one every 15 minutes. at this rate, we're going to lose the elephants in the next decade or so. and then the others are under huge pressure. if we don't do something soon, that will be the case. >> how do you get involved? >> peter came to me, like he just mentioned, almost ten years ago. we have moved to the next part, which is try and change the approach of the elephants and the rhino. we had a lot of the paper to show people how many elephants and rhino are being poached per year, per month, per day or per
minute. so it's really hard to just -- i mean, sit there. we like to film this, go to africa, film this and bring back and try to reach many people as we can and have more people join us. >> i heard edward norton there narrating. you say you've got a lot of people. a lot of high-profile people involved. >> it's been amazing to -- the pickup in china. also the chinese government has donated tens of millions of dollars of media space. we have messages going out at 7:00, prime time. >> fantastic. >> has the chinese government taken an aggressive anti-poaching approach? >> it is very aggressive. i think we started a law that the penalty can be death if you ship any of the ivory or rhino horn back to china.
but still there's a black market there. and demand there. you can't change that. when the price is there, there's people doing that for money. >> again, it's about education. the awareness. i didn't know about this. i went on safari over a year ago and i learned when i was in south africa. the porous border especially with mozambique where you can find where the poachers are coming in. there was definitely an issue with the rhino and the fact they were losing the population of the rhino. speak to what's being done to protect them and also repopulate. >> the thing is, it's a bit like the drugs trade. the demand is strong. the killing goes on. people are losing their lives. rangers. some of the money is going to finance groups like al shabab and things like that. the efforts on the ground, you know, it really is an uphill battle. obviously, i was in africa two days ago. all the governments are saying we have to address the demand. if we don't address the demand, we're not going to succeed. >> we hope everybody pays attention to this.
it's fantastic to have you on board. as a part of this. because you have a successful campaign with what you did with the shark fin issue. >> fantastic. >> yes. you can watch saving africa's giants with yao ming on animal planet next tuesday, november 18th, at 10:00 p.m. eastern and pacific times. yao ming and peter knights. gentlemen, thank you. >> thank you so much. >> really good work, we really appreciate it. >> up next, it we learn anything today? >> i think so.
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it's unbelievable. >> donny deutsch is not on tinder. >> what did you learn? >> i learned something in the green room. interviewing susie for my book. first of all, no is the most powerful word in hollywood. she gave me the most amazing negotiating advice. >> what was that? >> it will be in the book. that's all i'm going to say. she's amazing. >> all right, kids. thank you so much for watching this week as always. we really do appreciate your patience. >> no, everyone likes you. >> tomorrow. alabama against mississippi state. "daily rundown" is next. we'll see you monday. multitasking on the other side of the globe. president obama comes out even stronger on keystone and lets republican leaders know he's not budging on immigration. meantime, back at hope, a
welcome back. let's get a check on the day ahead. president obama will follow up on the immigration announcement with a visit to nevada.announce. and the capitol christmas tree arrives in washington, d.c., the tree hails from minnesota this year, and it will be lit on december 2nd, that is it, "morning joe" starts right now. >> if you register, pass a criminal background check and you are willing to pay your fair share of of taxes you will be able to apply to stay in the country without the fear of deportation, you can come out of the shadows and get right with the law, all we are saying is, we are not going to deport you, the critics of this action call it amnesty, it's not.
it's the immigration system we have today. >> good morning, it's friday, november 21st, and welcome to "morning joe," can you believe it's friday? it sort of has been a long week. that was president last night. amazing speech. we have political analyst and visiting professor at nyu, former democratic congressman, hear old ford, jr. did you do wiell? >> he gave a good speech. >> controversial? >> no doubt. >> and morning. good to have you on board for just this reason. and the host ofof -- before we t to immigration and the big conversation about that, we want to start this morn onning in up-state new york where massive snow storm is going wrap up finally after pounding the buffalo region for the last few days. it has been breaking news over
the past 36 hours. it has been blamed for ten deaths after dropping up to 7 feet in some area of snow. roof collapses are a major concern, with warmer temperatures this weekend expected and flooding will be an issue as well. lester holt has more on this . >> reporter: more than 100 patients had to be evacuated when the roof showed signs of weakening. >> there's potential for collapse. >> reporter: two dozen people driven from the roads by white-out conditions and deep snow has been holed up in the wall mrt store since tuesday. >> could not ask for a better place to be stranded. >> reporter: from the air, we could see the area painted in white, rooftops looked like they are slathered in whip cream. we can count dozens of cars that were stopped in their tracks,
buri buried in snow, the roof is barely visible. even as road crews make progress, there's neighborhoods still can cut-off, surrounded by chest deep snow. we went down one street on foot where we could only shout a conversation. have you ever seen it like this? >> i have never seen it like this, i have lived here my whole life. >> reporter: the officials are doing their best to reach those with emergencies and are reminding hope-bound residents to take precautions. >> you are looking theity buffalo bills stadium. it's covered in snow, the schedule game on sunday has been moved to monday night in ford field in detroit. they were trying to get people to shovel it out, it's impossible at this point. let's bring in bill with the latest, bill? >> the snow totals are off the chart. the highest total we have in is over 7 feet of snow in this three-day event. it's really two storms that were
separated by one day. all through theier, hamburg was 80 inches, orchard park where the stadium was cloelocated, it was -- a front end loader dug this woman out, and this is just from her driveway, you can see her son went out to climb the mountain of snow in her front yard. this is what they will deal with all winter long, it will be there all season. we will melt considerably, we will up to 61 on monday, it will be humid out there too, so that melts the snow faster. a half inch of rain, we are worried about flooding. worse damage was done by the snow and the wet of the snow. we will watch it as with we go through the weekend and good news is over the weekend, warm air builds across the country. we are two weeks of january type weather and it's over with after today. >> all right, bill, we will be in touch with you, we have the big news now this morning out of
w with a, in the words of president obama, we were strangers once too. last night that speech to the nation the president made the emotional case for wide ranger immigration reform. but with a nod to the political blow-back that lies ahead. he heads to las vegas today to curoccucurry favor for the acti. it is intended to protect human trafficking victim. it will remove barriers for foreign workers to come here and work and stay longer, especially in the high tech industry. and the center piece will prevent the deportation of 5 million americans. he has argued that every president since eisenhower has taken action on immigration, it is clear that he is aware of the politics aa head. >> don't let the disagreement on
a single issue be a deal breaker on every issue. it's not how the democracy works. >> okay, javier, let's look at how the "new york times," first line, president obama chose -- >> you know, i think first and foremost, our association, the 3.2 million hispanic in the country that collectively contribute billions of dollars in the economy stand in support of the president's action. it's not the action that anybody hoped for. >> i understand that, you and i are on the same page, could he have waited? could he have given them a deadline? what would have changed this this deadline? >> he could have, but the reality of it is, there's a bipartisan bill that has sat in congress now for over a year. and we prefer some action versus
no action at all. >> ray suarez, when do you think? >> there was risk involved by the president, but it may have been a bigger risk to way longer. the president has been calling for congress to act on this for a long time, for years in fact. congress could not even fas dream act, which for a long time was considered the low hanging fruit of immigration reform. if you could not take the most sympathetic immigrants, people that were brought here as babes in arms in many cases and make them safe from deportation, what could you accomplish? the house had a long time to do something on it and did nothing. the president was advised by many to act earlier and he didn't. the clock was running and he was under pressure too. >> and the republicans are sounding the alarm. >> they are insensed about this. the top leaders are using the president's own words against him now. >> the president said before, he
is not kin. and he is not an emperor, but he is sure acting like one, and he is doingi ining it at a time wh american people want us to work together. >> he was talking about immigration, and i know that some wish i could by-pass congress and change the law myself. but that is not how democracy works. indeed, mr. president, it isn't. >> previous comments were looked at on executive author aity, an they said it's false that his position has changed. it will embolden more desperate people to make the often deadly crossing from the united states -- to the united states from mexico it is said. and there's division on how best to respond to the president. some are pushing for budget strikes and others are dangling the idea of a shutdown and some
are not fully ruling out impe h impeachment. >> we can defund areas of president obama's lawlessness, so we should do so, use the power of the purse. >> are you worried about the political blow-back on the republicans if they do that? >> not if it's targeted and limited. what are we talking? it's not government shutdown or anything drastic. >> third would be kuth out the appropriations bill. i don't want to could the last thing. nobody wants to do the "i" word, the president has thrown us in to the situation. >> you hear caution. lindsey graham is cautious
saying if you make it about us, then it's not about the president and immigration. they can pass their own law that the president can vito. >> and the president said do it. pass the bill. >> first of all, i think the substance of what the president said, spot on. these are steps that should have been taken, his timing is wrong, however. i think it would probable have been better to give the republican new congress three months to act to it, and lay it out, and if they didn't, the president could still act on executive action. you have to wonder, there will be ramifications for this. the republicans warned before this happened and the president is taking a big risk on other parts of other important parts of the agenda being enacted. now this issue is important. and it may end up being the only issue that gets done over the next several months. hopefully the republicans are not equally silly and shutdown government or try to impeach the
president. the democrats in the congress could have negative blow-back from this. >> do you feel the timing was provocative? putting the republicans in a place where they always do, trying to knock down what he has always done, instead of doing something productive. which he could have given them time to do. >> no doubt, it's provocative. >> the reality is that there's an amazing hispanic electorate that is growing by leaps and bounds. many turn 18 and become an eligible voter. every 30 seconds, a hispanic turns 18 and becomes a voter. the republicans have a chance here to illustrate leadership to this electorate, and finish what
has begun long before president obama came along. >> ray, do you think the republicans will see it as an opportunity? >> no, but in some ways the president painted them in the corner. it's true when the president said that what he has done is limited. it is only in effect for the life of his administration. it can be rescinded by the next president or over ridden by legislation. but do the republicans want to aggressively move to break up families and start sending people home by using their legislative tools that they have been reluctant to use so far. do they want to do that? the president cannot make them legal, and he didn't do that last night. all he did was move them to the back of the line for waiting to be deported. he the cannot regularize their status, he didn't do it. do the republicans want to move in and say, sorry, buddy, you
want to get on the next plane. >> i know it's a question with a long answer. give me a quick one and distil it down, what is your in my opinion? what do you think had hispanics and latinos in general are looking for, what is a sound immigration policily? >> you know, i think something comprehensive and permanent is what everyone is looking for. we are an organization that is focusing on economic development and the commercial and economic interest of the nation. anything that helps entrepreneurs and small business in the country is what we are looking for. this is not what anybody hoped for, there's an opportunity here to illustrate demonstrate lly d needed leadership. >> we will talk more about what is brewing on this after the president's comments last night t white house is pushing forward for the pick of the top treasury post. the administration has no plans
to pull back on the nomination of antonio weise. it's said that he helped companies avoid taxes by moving money overseaoverseas. it's time for president to loosen the hold that wall street banks have over this issue warren's growing power is described as a test. and liberals are showing strong support for the massachusetts democrat. she tops hilary clinton in a poll. she has popularity on the left. and the far, far left for sure. bill cosby is scheduled to take the stage tonight for a performance as the lift of women
accusing him of sexual assault grows. a 57-year-old florida nurse said cosby drugged and raped her in las vegas when she was 19. but she continued to see him and later asked for and received thousands of dollars from him. >> he changed the course of my life. instead of empowering me like he said he does to people. he made me a victim and a all my life i have been a victim because of this. and that doesn't go away for all of the days of my life. >> the wife of the incredible hulk actor, lou ferrigno is speaking out, she claims that cosby try to force himself on her in his home and she was able to get away. and new york daily news has an interview with another woman that said the comedian lured her in to a hotel room in 1992, and
assaulted her. and an actress who appeared in one flew over the cucoo's nest said she was assaulted. the attorney for bill cosby said we have reached the point of absurdity, the stories are getting more and more ridiculous. the producers of "the cosby show" are break their silence saying the accusations are beyond our knowledge or comp hengz. cosby is scheduled to give a stand up performance tonight, he did not address the allegations last night in his performance. in the past, cosby has denied allegations made by other women, and has never really been criminal charged. >> he is going to have to come out is and say something at some point. it's getting away from him.
if these allegations are true, it's obviously horrible. but that ap interview he did a couple of nights ago, he on camera ask today correspondent to edit out the question and his response to this. >> he did not respond. >> he did not respond, he told h them to take out the question. none of it is proven, but so far, they are allegations, he needs to talk about it. >> josh ernest, congressman aaron shock and actress brooke shields with her new memoire, and a thanksgiving day the communicate. you are watching "morning joe." (vo) you are a business pro.
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>> all right, it's time to hook at the morning papers business insider. this is interesting, a walmart in oklahoma is holding a food collection for its own employees. according to the store manager, idea of the food drive came from an employee who wanted to help co-workers experiencing hardship. critics say the drive is proof walmart does not pay it's employees enough, the the company maintains that the it's simply employees taking care of each other, the average hourly wage is $11.73. >> they did it last year to too. >> yeah. >> the executive editor of the "new york times" may launch a new journalist website with the huffington post, it will feature lengthy articles on a monthly basis. >> the "wall street journal"
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all right, it's time for the must-read opinion pages, we have a bunch of different ones. this is the washington post on bill cosby, hard to keep the faith. and he writes in part this, a few weeks ago, i spent a delightful afternoon and evening with bill cosby. i was the emcee of a gala for historically black claflin university which is this my hometown of orangeburg south carolina, i was having a jolly old time with a serirapist? i'm having trouble squaring the allegations with the man i was with that day. many people may be experiencing the same. cosby has spent his long ground
breaking career in the entertainment industry being such a good guy. how could he possibly be such a bad guy too? i would like to believe the man i met is incapable of such montsrous acts, but his stoney silence is making it hard to keep the faith. to your point, i think he needs to say something. and that puts it in perspective why people are having a hard time talking about this. he has done amazing transformative things for society. his life and his work means so much to so many families and to black and white americans in terms of understanding each other and bridging the gap, fair? >> no doubt, he broke barriers. look, he has to answer this at some point, these allegations continue, it's not one or 10. >> and you don't know if it's a pile on. >> the argument i say it so carefully --
. >> gene said it well. >> there's nothing proved. nothing proved. no convictions, just allegations. but there are a lot of them at this point. peggy noonan. >> let's move, the nihlst, the bomb white house assumes it will happen to them, thus they can do pretty much what they want. what they forget is that facts largely decide what the history thinks. history will be written by liberals, fair enough and they will judge harshly because he has failed to do anything to last. keystone will pass and a veto overridden and the president has failed liberals through unpopularity which is another word for incompetence, ray, obviously not a fan of the
president, what do you think of the piece? >> i think there's a lot of chapters to be written this the obama presidency. she makes the point that liberals are disappointed and i think they are. i talk to them and they say, how come he will not go big. the people on the other side are people that will not agree with anything. how come he comes in prebaked and willing to compromised no matter what he says, the people that consider themselves his political opponents are never going to give him an inch. they cannot understand why the president precompromises, comes in at his final number and then sees that start to tear down. >> all right, we are going to bring in chief white house correspondent for political michael ennow, with the morning playbook. one of the lead stories this morning, j governor chris christie is finding little 2016 support from his fellow governors. >> govern eor christy was a gra
sl slam, was a big part of his comeback story. he raised $100 million traveling the country can. but at the big annual meeting, jake sherman asked some of the governors that he helped elected, if governor christie runs for president, will you elect him? those governors said he is a great guy, but we are not going to commit to him yet, he can run if he wants to. he got a lot out of this. he said that he does not begrudge the governors for holding back. he said, they cannot commit if i won't commit, it would be presumptuous of me to say will you back me if i sflun. >> what is the grassroots
opinion of chris christie, what is the feeling about him among republicans across the country? >> well, as you know, represent cans feel he would be a very strong match up with hilary clinton. the way that one top republican said it to me, he is the only guy that hilary clinton cannot be sure she could beat. along with jeb bush. how does he get to that match up? so the question is, could he navigate iowa? people think he probably could play fine in new hampshire, it's how do you get to that match up? it would be the same issue with governor jeb bush, probably strong against hilary clinton. hard to see how he gets through a republican primary where they are not going to like his stand on immigration and common core, what the represent condition voters call obama core. >> and democrats bet big on
demographics why many think the president's action on executive action in immigration will pay off in a big way. what are they saying? >> it pulls back the curtain on what happened last night and makes the point that it's a bet on the emerging voting groups. socially progressive younger voters and latino hispanic voters. democrats, the president's party may face a backlash among white voters in the south, and in to the rust belt for the immigration action, but in a state like virginia and florida, both so important in a presidential race of course you have populations there where it will be popular. >> michael en, itke -- mike all. it's friday. >> it friday! >> this is -- i'm going read this, i'm going deeper, okay, she said this, and harold, i
want to know what could be done avoid this. in recent years president obama has repeatedly turned to nominees with close ties to wall streelt for high level positions. the president's choice for treasure t treasury's highest position, and the president tabbed stanley fisher, a bank of america executive, was put in charge of international trade in the commerce department. the two recent picks for commodities futures trading commission, are lawyers that spent their careers representing big financial institutions. she guess on to say, it's time for the obama administration to loosen the hold that wall street banks have over economic policy making. sure, big banks are important, but running this economy for american femaamilies is a lot m important. >> her premise is right, but if
the wall street bankers are dominating the administration, they are doing a poor job of drafting policy for wall street, because wall street is complaining. they raise the point of what liberals are thinking. government does not work if one group thinks they are going to control it. it's wrong to think that. there's nothing wrong with compromise. elizabeth warren can say she is opposed to the nominees that the president put forward. but i would challenge conservatives and liberals alike to call this president an over compromiser or precompromiser if he deserved that title, that would be a good thing. that means we get more things done in washington. one of the things that i think the times is off, i think the president could have gotten more from the republicans before doing this, i would love to see the minimum wage increase. >> right, where are the bargaining chips being used? >> i don't think they are being
used effectively. liberals complain that he is not liberal enough and he should put more on the table. look, government should work, it's main function is to work for every family, regardless of how much they lobby. >> in terms of platform, it does not work. >> elizabeth warren should push, push the minimum wage, if you want to work with republicans and you think he is compromising too much, layout a plan that will allow democrats and liberals alike to get more of what they want. i don't see enough of that coming out of the liberal wing of my party and for that matter even the white house at times. >> do you think elizabeth warren has a point? >> i think she does and to the congressman's point, it's all about moving forward the president has done what he can in the areas he is called upon. there's no surprise in what he is doing. he signaled all the things long before he took action. >> up next on "morning joe,"
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>> last night, people tuned in to the president's speech across the country in places like oregon, arizona and texas, it was an emotional moment for immigrants. the latin grammys were briefly delayed as the full house of musicians and celebrity watched on the big screen. and joining us now from capitol hill, the income chair woman, linda sanchez, great to have you on this morning. >> thank you for having me. >> it was certainly a big moment and i -- i applaud what the president did the. that's where i stand on it. but having said that, i want to ask can you about the poll particular -- i want to ask you about the politics there was a bit of a lecture of the president about him having no choice here. and mitch mcconnell lecturing back on how the government works. given dynamic of what happened over the past 24 hours, why would is house gop be more
inclined to pass a bill? >> the house gop made a promise that they would take up the issue of immigration reform and they did not come through on the promise. the step last night was a huge step forward and it may propel them to sit down and think seriously about proposing something. because they have done nothing. and so, i think in the grand scheme of things -- >> but isn't it a step forward politically? because might he have said, look, i'm going to do this, unless you and then given them time to pass a bill? >> we have been waiting more than 500 days. that is more than a year for the republicans in the house to put up a bill on a yes or no vote. all they have to do is schedule the vote. they don't have to write something, it was worked out overwhelmingly passed in the senate on a bipartisan basis. that is democrats and
republicans. and he promised, the speaker promised he would take it up and then back tracked on that. so, you know, republicans have never really wanted to work with the president. they want to thwart attempts to move the country forward and take care of our country's business and then when nothing gets done because they fail exercise leadership, they love to point the finger of blame at others. the fact of the matter is, the president has been urging the speaker of the house for more than a year to put something on the floor. and it has not happened. and you know, these sudden, you know, cries from the republicans side, we need more time, we need more night titime, it's disinge >> i'm not saying that they are whining, i'm wondering in the president's decision was politically strategic? >> well --
>> i'm asking ray, hold on, and then it will go to you. >> >> he set a high bar for himself. he had promised action when he began this congress if the house did not act. the house did not act, many people were urging him to make this announcement before the just completed elections. he didn't do it. now, the pressure was really going to rachet up and he moved. >> all right, harold ford, jr.? >> congresswoman sanchez, good mo morning. >> good morning. >> we heard people say he acted how he did last night, do you take them at their word that it poisons the well and may make it difficult to move and find progress on other issues from either the minimum wage to energy to health care to other issues that are important to the democratic caucus?
>> i will tell you that i don't believe that there was ever any intention to really compromise and sit down and try the to work on areas where we can find common ground and i think they look for excuses not to really work with the president on the business that the country needs to get to. >> right. >> you talk about tax reform this year. i sieve on the -- i serve on the ways and means committee, we tried to work with the republican chairman of the committee to try to get it done and it was their side that derailed the attempt and not the democrats. they promise, we want to really work on this and we need more time and the reality is they don't have any intention of trying to compromise and workout differences in areas where we may have common ground. >> all right. >> and i think they use the issue of immigration to do what, you know, secretly they want to do anyway, which is just try to
thwart attempts to get anything moving in the congress. >> all right. >> congresswoman linda sanchez, thank you for being up early with us. we appreciate your time. >> my pleasure. >> javier, let's take it all told, does the action the president took make the comprehensive immigration reform, everyone agrees it needs to take place, and disagrees on how to get there, does it make it more likely or less likely to get something done next year? >> sadly the only thing more broken than our immigration system is our congress. i hope and pray that there will be leadership from both sides of the aisle. they need to work collaboratively to find an answer for the american people. >> do you think it will happen? >> i surely hope so and i think the american business has spoken loudly on this, small business
has. voices like lowell mcadams at verizon, randal stevenson in at&t and goldman sachs have called for clarity and movement forward, we want immigration reform. >> thank you very much, both of you for being on this morning. coming up next, one of our favorite jimmy kimmel bits. celebrities reading mean tweets about themselves. we will be right back. (vo) you are a business pro. solver of the slice. teacher of the un-teachable. you lower handicaps... and raise hopes. and you...rent from national. because only national lets you choose any car in the aisle... and go. you can even take a full-size or above, and still pay the mid-size price.
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country. i'm going to win this thing. and when i do, we are going to make history. look me in the eye and tell me it's not going happen. look me in the eye, henry, and tell me you don't want to be a part of it. >> promises were made. >> not by me. >> i was with the company for 24 years, they win the election if i do not help the hunter take him prisoner. i have neutralized champions of communism and i have spent three years learning finnish. >> you are opening up your home and tell me your husband will not be home for hours. mrs. robinson, you are trying to seduce me, aren't you. >> dustin hoffman said nichols
was brave forecasti ining him ie role. we send our best, she just loft her mom four weeks a ago, this has been a tough thing for this them. what a great, great, well lived life and we thank him for all the wolf people and art he has delivered to so many generations. >> with we leave the hour, do you have mean tweets for us? i promised people mean tweets. >> nothing that i can read outloud. >> okay, i promised them mean tweets. >> i thought things for me. >> i don't want to hear the tweets you get, i get them too. >> we go to jimmy kimmel, another edition of mean tweet thes. this is where celebrities read mean tweets that people have written about them. >> gwyneth paltrow, you ugly [
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[ bleep ] you. if a alien landed and demanded somebody to eat, i would drive straight to adam staandler's hoe with a net. [ bleep ]. >> lisa kudrow, generally tickled. i liked her reaction. >> and brittney spears. >> she was too. >> who gains the most from president obama's decision to act alone on immigration. and then, in buffalo, the end of that massive snow storm is in sight, but up state new york still has a long way to go to recover. and from a controversial nude scene at the age of 11 to that memorable calvin klein campaign where nothing came between her and her calvins, she sits down, more "morning joe," minutes away.
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♪ getting used to wexler in my ear, sunrise over d.c., i got it, thank you, wex, welcome back to "morning joe." harold ford, jr., and thomas roberts is here with me at the desk and matt lewis is here with us. >> a die-hard orioles fan.
>> is he? >> yes. >> i kind of like him for that. i love baltimore. >> we love him for it. >> i need to get the hopkins mug, i need to get it out of my bag. a massive snow storm is going to wrap up after poupdi inpounding buffalo region. the storm is now blamed for ten delega deaths. flooding will be an issue as well. nbc meteorologist dylan dreier will join us. >> it is amazing when we talk to dill skpylan and bill, what is , the temperatures, we will see that they go from 21 in just about three days up to 60 plus. >> oh, my lord. >> so there will be flooding
issues. and roof concerns for so many homes. >> this is still very much a developing story, i think what the after affects of this will be playing out for days. all right, let's get to the big, big news on immigration this morning. last night in a speech to the nation, the president made the emotional case for wide ranging immigration reform, with a nod to the political blow-back that lies ahead. the president heads to las vegas to curry favor for the plan that he said focuses on deporting felons not families. the white house said that the plan shifts resources to the border and extreme -- stream lines immigration reform. it will allow workers to come here and work longer especially in the high tech industry. and it protects 5 million people. he argued that every president since eisenhower has taken
executive action on immigration, it's clear he is a wear of the politics ahead. >> do not be a disagreement on a single issue be a deal breaker on every issue. that's now how democracy works and congress should not shutdown the government because we disagree on this. >> republicans are outragesed and the presidents top leaders are using his words against him. >> the president has said before he is not kin, and he is not an emperor, but he is acting like one. and he is doing it in a time when the american people want nothing more than for us to work together. >> he was talking about immigration that day. i know that some wesh i could by-pass congress and change the law myself. but that is not how democracy works. indeed, mr. president, it isn't. >> it was looked at the previous comments on executive authority and what he is saying now.
according to the site, it is false when he said his had position has not changed. but there's division among the gop on how best to respond to the president. many top legislators and governors are considering legal action. some are pushing for budget strikes and others have dangled the idea of a shutdown and others still won't fully rule out impeachment. >> appropriation bill is one area where the senate and congress can prioritize spending and we can defund areas of president obama's lawlessness and we should do so, so use the power of the purse. >> are you worried about the political blow-back on the republicans if they do it some. >> not if it's targeted and limited. what are we talking about? denying a couple of million dollars in spending in month, it's not threatening government shutdown or anything drastic. >> third would be to cut out of the appropriation's bills those funds that would fund this, that is the progressive effort of this moving forward.
but, i don't want to do the last thing, i don't want to do the " "i" word. >> some republicans urge caution, lindsey graham said if you over react, it becomes about us and not about president obama. matt lewis, is the president acting like an emperor or what could he have done to prompt action like he did last night? >> well, the emperor word is something that president obama brought up. that comes from him. i know, everybody is going to talk and say the republicans are calling him that that, he has said multiple times that this is not legal. what he did last night and what he said he was going to do was beyond his purview as president. and congress would have to do it and he said i'm not an emperor i can't do that. i think there's a temptation for
republicans to kind of use his language against him. it's a bad idea probably. i think i'm with the majority of americans on this. i think most of the policies are good policies, but the problem is that the way our system works the way democracy works is, this has to go through the legislative process. that is best for everybody. >> it not going to happen, matt, and i'm not going -- i'm trying not to -- you know what side of this i'm on. but it's -- do you think something would have happened had the president not done what he did last night? do you think we would have had a bill? come on, nothing would have happened. do we agree on that? >> i don't think, well with, it's hard to tell what might have happened over time. i agree that not within the next couple of weeks or even months. but i think it's less likely now that we will have a bipartisan consensus on this. where people like me, who have been arguing in favor of immigration reform actually now have a harder time making the
argument to conservatives and republicans because of the over-reach. he has poisoned the well on it. >> couldn't they approximatespa? >> i think it's a disservice to hispanics ultimately. the fundamental problem, i think, is the precedent it sets. if a president can just rewrite had this law, what can't a president do? and so -- >> but you are acting like it has never happened before and it's an incredibly strange. it has happened before. the presidents have issued executive orders before. >> i think it's unprecedented. if you look at what president reagan did, i'm proud he tackled immigration reform. when ronald reagan and george hw bush tweaked the law, that is different, they were operating on a law that had recently passed and they were fixing sort of using their authority to make
fixes to a law that congress had just approved. vastly different than what president obama is doing. there's no law for him to base these on. and in fact, he is going against what the voters just told him two weeks ago. >> i'm picking on matt, harold ford, jr., i don't mean to, couldn't the republicans still do something in response to this that would produce results? >> one would hope that is the reaction. >> i think they could. >> let's layout a couple of facts. this is good policy that the president laid out and what he has done is different than what he said he was going to do, because he said that he could not act alone. th matt is correct. and it will have affect on other legislation in the congress. which is a equal and bigger concern of mine. taxes, health care, energy, minimum wage, there's a number of things and the president will need republicans support on the continuing avalanche of foreign
policy changes. the timing is a little provocati provocative, was it the right time to do it should he have given congress time? and if they did not act, he acts. that is a legitimate question and one had the white house has to answer, particularly if they cannot get other things advanced. >> let's try and be productive. everyone could find something wrong with what has happened and how the republicans are responding and we can sit and argue about that. but matt, could the new republican congress, maybe perhaps respond with a bill? >> well, look, i think they could and i think they should. i mean, the problem is, i think that president obama was trolling republicans, i think that what he has been hoping to do is to actually, i believe that the democrats essentially want to own, they want to be the party of immigration reform. and that by doing this, he actually makes it harder for people like me who believe in
immigration reform. and i think the danger is republicans will over react. and it does not even have to be a leadership. it could just be a back bench member of congress that says something horrible now that will dominate. so my advice is look, i think republicans should tune it out and go about doing their business and i think they should pass a series of immigration reform bills that can start with border security, but they cannot end there. it has to continue. i personally believe in a path way to citizenship. assuming people meet all sorts of criteria along the way. >> don't tell anyone i agree with a lot of what you are saying. first, you have some news on the form president, jimmy carter? >> it's great that matt talks about the context of former presidents and when executive orders have happened in the past, we sat down with jimmy carter, former president, in a wide ranging discussion and they discussed everything from voting
laws to edward snowden and recurring criticism on the right. >> john mccain, reaching for the worst possible insult for president obama earlier this year said this, i have never seen anything like this in my life, i thought jimmy carter was bad, but he pales in comparison to this president in my opinion. the serious question is, what does it feel like and what is your response to these moments of being used as an insult? your legacy being used a as an insult? >> that is a compliment for me coming from a war -- i was lucky enough when i was president to keep our country at peace and to provide peace for others. i was lucky enough to go through my four years, with he never dropped a bomb or fired a missile or shot a bullet. >> wow, okay. here with us now from washington we have nbc news political
director and moderator of "meet the press" chuck todd, who is the author of the stranger, barack obama in the white house. i wonder when you watch today president if he adhered to the narrative in your book as opposed to being consiliatory, do you feel he had no choice? >> he well, yes, of course was politically provocative. they knew they were doing that and i think there was different clae calculations that they made. i think they regret that they waited. i think the senate democrats over panicked and over reacted, and they are right, had he announced it this earlier, some would have lost by big more points. there's regret that they did not do it sooner. they worried about credibility with hispanic activists and he put the republicans in the box.
they have control of congress. you know, that line, pass a bill. look, i think there's people that are going be okay with the policy that was announced and not like how he went about doing it. right? so, that's the box the republicans are in because what he announced is not something that is offensive to the american people. what they don't like is how he went about doing it. they wish washington do it in a more functional manner, all of those things. but the policy itself is not that unpopular, which is why i think it does put the onus on the republicans they have to put their money where their mouth is. >> chuck, good morning, harold ford, you look at congress and how they behave and treat the president. the president traveled to china and announced that the internet should be regulated like an old telephone monopoly that angered congress. and he now takes this step, what
does it mean going forward, play it 3 to 6 months going forward. other important issues and obviously the avalanche of foreign policy challenges, does the president now have not only a different congress and republican congress to deal w perhaps a more polarized congress to deal with in the coming months? >> it could, it will be interesting to see how mcconnell a and boehner handle their base. it's the base conservatives that would like to be more aggressive. they feel the president is being away aggressive against them. fight fire with fire, if it means using the power of the purse, threatening government showdowns when it comes to funding, so beit. now the leadership does not want that. they are kind of hoping that the way to challenge the president, have the lawsuit, maybe it's the state of texas, constituent of ok -- state of oklahoma, but states are pondering the idea of
suing the president over it and trying to get the courts to do it. but i don't know if it changes the relationship with -- i guess i just don't believe that things would be any better or worse if he did this now or didn't. >> all right, we have one more for you, chuck, this is on obama-care. thomas? >> the department of health and human services acknowledging that it made acceptable mistakes for including dental plans. this error added 380 dental subscribers to the roles raising the total sign ups to over 7 million. once the numbers were readjusted it puts the enrollment below. and the administration was using the number as the benchmark goal. the cbo set it out there. this error came to light through the house oversight and government reform committee. this is adding insult to injury
after all of the gruber comments have come to light and the numbers have been a lynch pin of bragging rights, so how do they spin it? >> they have to have a better second year number. i think at the end of the day, 6.7 to 7.1, if they are within 400,000, or 500,000, of the second is year number, it's not such a big deal. now they revise the second year estimate down, and now this is being revised down. they have to start worrying that they have -- that they've got a marketing issue here with the plan itself. but, you know -- >> all right. >> i think it proves that they are not anti-dentites. >> that is it. there you go. thank you very much. chuck, what do you have on "meet the press" on sunday? >> we are going to do a lot of focus on immigration and do a look at energy and how it is
totally changed some of our foreign policy attack whattacks comes to iran and russia and our economy here at home. >> we will be watching that sunday morning on "meet the press." thank you. come canning up, aaron shock and brooke shields and we go live to a snow weary buffalo to say the least. where dylan is standing by somewhere underneath the snow banks. josh earnest is our guest. you are watching "morning joe," we will be right back. get to the terminal across town. are all the green lights you? no. it's called grid iq.
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immigrants. we were striangers once too and whether our forebarers crossed the pacific or the rio grand, we are here because the country welcomed them in and taught us that being american is more than what we look like, what our last names are or how we worship. >> that does not sound like an emperor to me, it sounds like a leader. good to have you back on the show, gary. he is the co-author of latino america, how america's most dynamic population is poised to transform the politics of the nation. what do you think the impact of the president's action will be if the republicans don't come back in kind with the bill? >> i think in the short-term, it's going to dramatically improve the lives of a lot of people who are here just trying
to earn a living and support their family. it's going to protect them from the threat of deportation and the threat of family division. i think it's going to be a big political win for the president, in terms of support for his party's success on the democratic ticket. >> some of the things that republicans have said in the last few days and they screamed about last night, i happen to agree that the presidents remarks were on point. some feel it's going to serve as an invitation for people to come to the border with the hopes that they will be legal. do you think it's a valid criticism of the president? >> i don't think it's a legitimate criticism, it suggests that any action that addresses the situation of the 11 million undocumented in the united states would create more undocumented. the policy is very clear.
that it does not address anyone who has been here a short period of time and it prioritizes deport tagzs, folks that arrived after january 1st of this year and it redirects border enforcement to the border to try to make sure that no additional people cross. so, i think it's actually a rational policy. if the idea is that if you do anything about the undocumented that you invite more the only logical solution is to do nothing forever and i don't think that is viable. >> do you think the president should have programmed tried to work behind scenes with congress before taking bold action? >> i think that that's a talking point from the right. but i don't think it's a realistic view. to believe that that would have worked is to believe that a republican congress, which has been obstructionist for four years is taking control of the senate and going to be in the
mood for more compromise. the house of representatives has had 500 days plus to act on a bipartisan senate bill or offer their own and they have done absolutely nothing. >> gary, thank you very much. we want to go to the white house now, white house press secretary josh ernest joins us now. josh, let's get right to the heart of the fight. >> let's do it. >> the republicans blasted the president ahead of his address, using his own words against him. take a listen, boehner/mcconnell. >> the president said he is not an emperor, but he is sure acting like one. and he is doing it in a time when the american people want us to work together. >> he was talking about immigration that day. i know that some wish that i could bypass congress and change the law myself. but that's not how democracy works. indeed mr. president, it isn't. >> okay, but this is not
democracy working either. first of all, is he acting like an emperor, it is a new congress, should he have gone behind the scenes and said, let's see if we can work together and give a window of time and come up with something and pass it? >> i will say a couple of things. if he was a king or e in mperor, he would have implemented the bipartisan senate bill that passed the law 500 days ago. he asked the attorney general to review the authority he had under the law and he used every element of the law within the confines of the law to reform the immigration system. and that is what he did last night and it's entirely consistent with the way that the president bush, president george hw bush tried to address that when they were president. as it relates to waiting to the next congress, 2 or 3 days after
the mid term elections, speaker boehner was asked if he intended to bring i mmigration reform to the new congress. he would not commit to doing so it's a clear indication that we cannot wait for them to act to this. we need something acted to right now and the president delivered last night. >> i found parts of the speech to be beautiful as it pertained to what this country is businessbusiness -- is based on and the concepts and immigrants. having said that, he lectured the republicans and we got lectures back from the other side and we are hearing lectures on both sides. is it warmer behind the scenes, how do we get to a point where we get action that is not just one side kicking the other over the edge? >> i mean, as it relates to the president's speech right now, i
do think that everyone who watched the speech last night could tell that the president was speaking to the heart. he was talking about the values that animated his commitment to public life for the last couple of deck a aades and he was talk about what he believes the united states of america can and should be. i think the steps he announced last night are consistent with those values, those are the kind of values that the democrats and republicans across the country can will say they share, and people that did not vote for the president or are supporters of the president understand how the steps that he announced last night are consistent with the kinds of of values that we embrace as americans. >> what is that -- at this point, since we are here, almost -- what is happening behind the scenes? has he reached out to republicans? is there any attempt to negotiate on this or is that over on this point? >> well, i think we consider the announcement that the president made last night a first step in trying to fix the broken immigration system. the president is standing ready to work with democrats and
republicans. we have a good temporalate for that. we have a great template for the congress to take up legislation and work with the administration and try to advance it through the senate and the house. the president would be happy to do that. it would be good for the economy and good for job creation and good for border security and good for reducing the deficit. there's a whole host of reasons to make progress on a piece of common sense legislation like that. and the president is ready to do it. if the congress passes legislation, the president will rip up the legislation made last night. >> what about the idea that it's a change in tune and a change in substance in the president when he said he could not do it alone. how does the white house or president respond to that? >> he cannot implement the senate bill, we need the house of representatives to pass the senate bill and that means we need house republicans to stop
blocking the bill. he did everything that he could within the confines of of the law to use his executive authority to repair the broken immigration system. that is not as much authority as congress has in the matter. what the president did yesterday was of consistent with steps that were taken by president george hw bush, and president reagan. what president obama did is consistent with what president reagan did. when bush tried to fix broken aspects of the system, expanded legislation that congress passed to include 40% of the undocumented population in the country at that time. so, president george hw bush took a sweeping step to try to address problems president obama did the same thing last night. >> all right, josh ernest, good to see you, thank you very much. >> thank you for the opportunity guys. have a good friday. >> thanks, you too, coming up actress brooke shields remembers her remarkable career and how
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welcome back to "morning joe," finally january is going to end, or the weather we are experiencing. what happened in buffalo is tragic, now the deg dths are upo 12. dylan dreyer has been there covering the story. you were in jersey and you lived in boston for a long time, people cannot relate and picture this. you were in one of the most intense bands in your life that you have been in your life, try to explain it to people, they see snow every year and not compare it to what you saw. >> i'm used to snow. i grew up with it, boston, we cover nor'easters all the time. you saw the stuff i was tweeting yesterday. you could not see two feet in front of you and we got stuck in the snow bank because of the white out conditions. here, covers are buried in snow and in walmart, there's several people that were living there
for the last five days. monday, they are making their own community there. and communities all across the area, they are finally breathing a sigh of relief that the snow is over. but now, they feel the concern of the long lasting impact of the snow. widespread concern this morning that a year's worth of snow over a few days is too much to the bare. >> we have been deing with reports of collapsing roofs. >> reporter: no sooner than the snow stopped that the residents were getting the snow off of their roofs. >> i looked up and had a 16-foot crack between the wall and ceiling. >> reporter: patients were evacuated over concerns that the roof would not hold. crews are working around the clock to clear the streets. here, more than 30 people have been stranded in a walmart since monday. >> i know exactly where my vehicle is, it's under 10 feet
of snow in the main entrance. >> their cars buried. these guys have camped out, where else? in the entertainment section and in the automotive section. when we left, we got stuck too. a plow helped ous out of the walmart parking lot. the buffalo bills will have to hit the road as well. the game against the jets has been moved to someplace that is not in snow. and the nfl has announced that the game will be played monday night in detroit in ford field, which is a domed field, so snow will not be an issue and as for the people in the walmart, they can dig out their car cs today, but there's travel bans so they cannot get to road until that is lifted and the concern with the flooding this week. it's one thing after another. >> i'm sure everyone is glad that the snow was over.
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member of the weiays and means committee. and political analyst jeff greenfield. his book is now out in paperback. good to have you back. >> good to be here. >> what is the president doing with the action last night? >> i cannot assess motives, i don't know if he is sticking an eye in the republican party or not, sure, if he is not intending to it, it sure happened. and one of the things that happened, if you step back a minute, to me, it's having the same impact as the less fortunate comments that the president on the health care plan. where the debate immediately is moving away from the substance of what he is doing to how he do it. the same statement, if you like your doctor, you can keep it, dominated the discussion of health care, what we are hearing now is the debate whether he
exceeded his constitutional authority. and i think the idea, this is somehow, when i hear people say, cooler heads will prevail, i don't believe that for a minute. i don't think we have seen it for the last six years by and large. in the wake of the election and the act, whether it's legal or not is provocative, it's going to make the less calm members of your caucus enraged. so, i know i don't mean to come out here on the eve of thanksgiving and be pessimistic, but bet the under on my meaningful accomplishment. >> let's ask a member of congress, will cooler heads reisrar prevail? >> on what issue? >> on this issue. will there be a bill? will had there be an outcome that is consilcilitory?
>> the president has blown up the trust. so, it kind of stopped any progress in the house. our hope was now, with the republican senate that no only immigration reform, but the other 380 bills that we passed with bipartisan votes in the house will get to the senate and get to the president's desk so we can negotiate. >> josh earnest said he will rip it up if he come up with a bill. >> any immigration bill, the president said if you do not like what i have done, pass a bill. i think congress should. i have been pushing for on it. it will not be a massive bill like the senate passed. we will do a border security bill like we did had in the homeland security that passed unanimously, and a visa expansion and deal with the dream act kids. so, we have solutions on to these problems. the problem is harry reed said we are not taking your bill and
the house said we are not taking the senate bill and we were in a stand still. which is why it did not get done. now after the election, we have the ability to get our ideas to the president's desk so we can negotiate with him. >> jack? >> very simple question. is the republican house caucus and the republican senate caucus now more or less charitably disposed to comprehensive immigration, i would say less. >> after his actions? >> after the election? the new republican senators from what i saw, they are not inclined to embrace anything approaching comprehensive immigration reform and i think some of the new house members are the same. and they are the ones that are going to get the most attention fairly or not. last night, if i may, last night, watching your network and fox. >> oh, that must have been fun. >> cnn was covering college costs, which is another thing. who did hannity book? michelle bachmann and he did not book you, did he? and i think --
>> that is not his fault. i mean, don't pick on aaron. he is a good guy. >> i'm sympathizing with aaron, that is not who the folks are turning to. and i can't understand -- >> that feeds to your point, the method at which the president is using that will be the distraction to getting something done. so congressman, last night in listening to the president, what was aggravating to the methodology to the president's executive action, leading with border security and leading with wanting to do immigration reform and talking about protecting american families, not felons. what was aggravating to your ear about that approach? >> what was aggravating was had that i agreed with a lot of what he said, but i did not deal with his action. his executive action tammys to do legislatively what he wants the congress to do. that is getting around the operation of powers of our congress. he talks about a visa program
for people that are in college that he wants to keep. he talks about border security, additional bored security. so, this is not just another clinton, regan bush type order. it's sweeping and so what was aggravating from my standpoint was mr. president, if you really want to do those step by step issues you just outlined then come work with congress. >> what's the part, jeff, from your covering presidents over decades and the strategies for negotiation, and the behind the scenes part, is there something missing from this process, was the president's action last night provocative because it missed something else? >> what is missing is what has changed completely in washington. every time i hear the auction about well, this is what reagan and tip o'neal used to do. >> right. >> i mean, this is what clinton and newt gingrich used to do. >> everything looks good in retrospect. >> that is right. and there's a change here. you know, part of the thing that
i was thinking about, was back five years ago when the republicans drew lines in the sands in first weeks after obama's inaugural, a lot of them said this is good for us, because the american power pl-- public does not like obstructionism. do you think it has hurt the republican party? >> yes. >> take a look at the mid terms. >> we have passed bills ou s ou the house. i'm tired of hearing how republicans were obstructionists, we have passed 380 bills. >> all right, willie geist sits down with brooke shields, next on "morning joe." holiday music ) hey! i guess we're going to need a new santa
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brooke shields' legendary jean commercials, which she says she still has some in storage. she's here to talk about her new book. good morning, good to see you. >> thank you. >> the most important news out of this book, not only do you still have those jeans, they still fit you. >> my mom saved everything. she saved two pairs from that commercial. one, i gave to the met, as one does with their jeans. >> of course, old jeans. >> ah, give them to the met. the other one, they go up so far. >> well, it was a different time. >> it looks like sausage encased. >> but they fit. to your great credit. let's talk about what this book is and what it's not. >> okay. >> this is not, like, your life story. this is the story with your mother. and i think the impression that people have -- some people
anyway, of your relationship with your mother, that it was kind of a mommy dearest thing. she put you in "pretty baby" when you were 12 and the commercial when you were 15. that's not really the way it was though, was it? >> it's not. i'm not trying to discredit that we did do all of those things. but the main sort of point that i was trying to make is i wasn't a victim. you know, i wasn't -- we weren't making career decisions as to what meant any difference now to the next job, to the next, the next. we were just in this business. we were sort of taking what was offered to us. if it worked, if it paid, if we were able to get a car, a house. you know. we sort of just did these willy-nilly jobs. >> was there any part of you later in life that looks back and says, ooh, "pretty baby," maybe i was too young for that? >> no, those are the more enduring pieces of art that i'm
involved with. there's plenty of other things whether it's a brooke at all or a bizarre jeans campaign that failed or all of a sudden now selling shampoo or whatever the thing is, you know, that i was -- secret. underarm. you know, those are the things that i sort of look and think, that's a disconnect. how do you start with "pretty baby" and that's the trajectory of your career. that's, a, giving my mom a lot of credit for even thinking of a plan. and also thinking that, you know, there was something about those -- those particular jobs that were important. and i think we knew it. you know, we knew we were doing something unique when we did the commercials. we were making commercials that were a minute long that were supposed to be played in movie theaters. and at the last minute, they pulled then and said, oh, they'll never be advertising in movies. we were able to be at the forefront of some of that stu and that's what was fabulous
about it. but that's not a sexy story. sexy story is the drunk mother who sells her daughter into prostitution. like that's the headline -- >> knowing you and how grounded you are and how in touch and present in people's lives you are with your husband and your kids. i read this book and i say, my god, look at the life she's lived. is it ever crazy to you that you didn't stumble somewhere along the way there? >> for the longest time, i didn't know why i was -- why i was graced, you know, why i was saved. why there was this sort of saving grace about it. i used to attribute it to everybody else. but i do think there was something -- i have to now start owning up to something. there's a bit in my character that will not be the victim. >> i have to ask you because there's this big chunk at the end of the book dedicated to you being at the bedside of your mother as she's dying. and it is absolutely gut
wrenching when you read what you two have been through together, to say good-bye. you describe it as the moment you feared all your life. what was it like? it was during hurricane sandy. there you are, running on generators at a hospital in new york. there's your mom. you watching her leave you. >> it's nothing -- you know, i wouldn't have had it, excuse me. any other way. i knew i needed to be there because i never would have forgiven myself. but it's a horrific thing. there's no hallmark moment. you know, there's no -- and it's not even a exhale like it is in the movies. and it's -- there's something bizarre, there's something kind of freakishly funny, there's something psychotically horrible. you're watching it, thinking, okay, i'm going to get this, i'm going to understand it. i'm going to internalize it. and i don't know anything more
about it now than i did before, you know, it's like ah. >> i think you turned to the nurse and said, is this it? >> yeah, she was doing -- >> she was busy. >> she had a lot on her plate that day. >> brooke, i can't say enough good things about this book and what an incredible life you and your mother had together and now what an incredible mother you are and wife and it's just been fun to get to know you. you must read this book. it's called "there was a little girl." the real story of my mother and me. thank you, brooke. we'll be right back with more "morning joe."
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if you register, pass a criminal background check and you're willing to pay your fair share of tax, you'll be able to apply to stay in this country temporarily without fear of deportation. you can come out of the shadows and get right with the law. all we're saying is we're not going to deport you. i know some of the critics of this action call it amnesty. well, it's not. amnesty is the immigration system we have today. >> good morning. it is friday, november 21st. welcome to "morning joe." can you believe it's friday? it's sort of been a long week. that was the president last night. pretty amazing speech. with us on set, we have msnbc political analyst, visiting professor at nyu, harold ford jr. did the president do well? >> thought he gave a good
speech. >> good speech. controversial? >> no doubt about it. >> the president and ceo of united states hispanic chamber of commerce, javier palamerez joins the table. good to have you on board for just this reason. and in washington, the host of al jazeera america's "inside story" ray suarez. thank you very much for being on this morning. before we get to i grammigratiod the big conversation about that, we want to start this morning in upstate new york where a massive snowstorm is expected to wrap up finally after pounding the buffalo region in the last few days. this has been breaking news over the past 36 hours. the storm now being blamed for at least ten deaths after dropping more than seven feet of snow in some areas. seven feet. roof collapses are a major concern. with warmer temperatures expected this weekend, flooding will be an issue as well. nbc's lester holt has more on this. >> reporter: more than 100 patients evacuated in this nursing home in chicktogowa when
the roof showed signs of collapsing. >> there's a potential for it. >> reporter: more than 2 dozen people driven from the roads by whiteout conditions and deep snow have been holed up in this walmart store since tuesday. >> couldn't ask for a better place to be stranded. >> reporter: from the air, we could see entire sections of the buffalo area painted in white. rooftops that look as if they've been slathered in whipped cream. >> we worked our way south of buffalo and it gets a lot worse. these are unplowed streets. we can count dozens of cars that were stopped in their tracks, barely the roof is visible. it's like "the day the earth stood still." >> reporter: there are neighborhoods still cut off, surrounded by chest deep snow. we venture down one cul-de-sac on foot where we can only shout a conversation with mary ann. have you ever seen it like this.
>> i've never seen it like this. >> reporter: officials say they're doing their best to reach those facing emergencies and are reminding home brown residents to take precautions. >> you're looking at the latest photos from the buffalo bills football stadium which is covered in snow. their scheduled game on sunday against the jets have been moved to monday night at ford field at detroit. they're trying to get people to shovel it out. that is just impossible at this point. bill karins with the latest. >> these snow total are also off the chart. the highest total we have in is over seven feet of snow in this three-day event. it's really two storms that were separated by one day. all through that area, hamburg with 80 inches. orchard park where the stadium was located was 71. al de n, new york, 56. sarah sent me this picture. she's finally free. a front loader came in overnight and dug her out.
her son climbing the mountain of snow now in her front yard. that snow's not going anywhere. we are going to melt a considerable amount this weekend. we're going to get to 51 on sunday, 61 on monday. it will be a little humid out there too so that melts the snow faster. half-inch of rain. we are worried about flooding. worst damage was done by snow and the weight of the snow. the good news is, over the weekend, warm air builds across the country. are two weeks of january-type weather over with after today. >> bill, we've got the big news now this morning out of washington. in the words of president, we were strangers once too. last night in a speech to the nation, the president made the emotional case for wide-ranging immigration reform. with a nod to the political blowback that lies ahead. curry favor for the plan that he says focuses on deporting felons, not families. the white house says the plan
shifts resources to the boarder, streamlines immigration courts and protects human trafficking victims. it would remove barriers for foreign workers to come here and stay longer, especially in the high-tech industry. but the centerpiece prevents the deportation of as many as 5 million americans. most of whom are the parents of children who were born on u.s. soil. while he argued every president since eisenhower has taken executive action on immigration, it is clear the president is aware of the perilous politics ahead. >> don't let a disagreement over a single issue be a deal breaker on every issue. that's not how our democracy works. and congress certainly shouldn't shut down our government again just because we disagree with this. >> let's look at how "the new york times," first line, president obama chose confrontation over conciliation. i know you support what the president has done. however what could have been more conciliatory in terms of the moves here?
>> i think first and foremost, our association of 3.2 million hispanic owned firms in this country that collectively contribute over $486 billion to the american economy stand in support of the president's action. it is not the panacea that anybody has hoped for. >> i get that. i understand that. you and i are on the same page. could he have been more conciliatory? could he have waited? could he have given him a deadline? >> certainly, i think he could have. the reality of it, there's a bipartisan bill that has sat in the congress now for over a year. we prefer some action versus no action at all. >> ray suarez what do you think? >> well, certainly, there was risk involved for the president, but it might have even been a bigger risk to wait any longer. the president's been calling for congress to act on this for a long time, for years, in fact. congress couldn't even pass the dream act which for a long time was considered the low-hanging fruit of immigration reform. if you couldn't take the most sympathetic immigrants, people
who were brought here as babes in arms in many cases, and make them at least safe from deportation, what little could you accomplish? the house had a long time to do something on this. did nothing. the president was advised by many to act earlier this year in advance of the elections. he didn't. his clock was running. he was under a lot of pressure too. >> yet, willie geist, the republicans already sounding the alarm here. >> it almost goes without saying, republicans are incensed about this. using the president's own words against him now. >> the president has said before he's not kin. and he's not an emperor. but he's sure acting like one. he's doing it at a time when the american people want nothing more than for us to work together. >> he was talking about immigration that day. i know that some wish that i could just bypass congress. and change the law myself. but that's not how a democracy works. indeed, mr. president, it isn't.
>> looked at the president's previous comments on executive authority and what he's saying now. according to the site, it is false when he says his position has not changed. saying the move will only embolden more desperate people to make the dangerous crossing to the united states from mexico. there is key division on how best to respond to the president. many considering legal action. some are pushing for surgical budget strikes. others have dangled the idea of a shutdown. others still will not fully rule out impeachment. >> appropriation bills are the one area in which the senate and congress can prioritize funding. we can defund areas of president obama's lawlessness. we should do so. we should use the power of the purse. that happens all the time. >> -- on the republicans if they do that? >> not if it's very targeted, very limited. what are we talking about? denying a couple million cars worth of spending issuing those
permits? this is not threatening government shutdown or anything drastic. >> a resolution of disapproval. second would be a censure. third would be to cut out of the appropriation bills those funds that would fund this. that's the progressive effort of this moving forward. but i don't want to do the last thing. i don't want to do the "i" word. nobody wants to throw the nation into that kind of turmoil. the president has thrown us into this situation. >> you hear some caution being exercised there. senator lindsey graham joined that chorus. he said, quote, if you overreact, it becomes about us and not about president obama. harold ford, where does this go from here? we've got the executive action. we're going to have a republican house and senate come january. they could pass their own law that the president could then veto. >> the president said do it. pass the bill. >> hopefully they do that. i think first of all, i think the substance of what the president said last night was spot on. there's no doubt these are steps that should have been taken. i think the timing is wrong. it probably would have been better to give the republican new congress three months to have acted on this.
they chose not to, the president would have still had the opportunity to act back on executive action. don't agree with the president or ray on that, this should have been done. interest will be ramifications for there. the republicans warned kwint fra quite frontily before this happened. this issue is important. it may end up being the only issue that gets done over the next several months because republicans are hopefully not stupid enough to try to impeach the president or equally silly and try to shut down government. i do think the democratic party in the congress is going to have reverberations from this and it could be negative. >> do you agree? do you think the timing is perhaps a little bit evocative? putting the republicans in a place where, again, they do what they always do, try and knock down what he's done instead of try and come up with something productive. he could have give be them time to do. >> no doubt, it was provocative. the fact of the matter is, he's the leader. he attempted to lead. i think there's a wonderful
opportunity here for the republican party to look at this as a wonderful option. the reality of it is, there's an amazing electorate. hispanic electorate that is growing by leaps and bounds. every month in this country, 52,000 hispanics turn 18 and become an eligible voter. every 30 seconds, an hispanic turns 18 and becomes an eligible voter. the republicans have an opportunity to ingratiate themselves to that electorate and finishing what has begun long before president obama came along. >> ray, do you think the republicans are going to see this as a wonderful opportunity? >> no, they're not going to see it as a wonderful opportunity. but i think it is clear that in some ways the president has painted them into a corner. it's true when the president says what he's done is very limited. it only is in effect for, in effect, the life of his administration. it cab be rescinded by the next president. it can be overridden by legislation. but do the republicans want to
aggressively move to break up families to start sending people home by using their legislative tools that they've been reluctant to use so far? the president, they're making believe they've never heard of prosecutorial discretion. all he did was move them to the back of the line for waiting to be deported. he can't regularize their status. he didn't do that. do the republicans want to move in there and say no, sorry buddy, you're getting on the next plane? i don't know if they want to do that. >> javier, i know this is a question with a long answer. what is your membership? what do you think hispanics, latinos in general are looking on? what is a sound immigration policy? >> i think comprehensive, permanent. we are an organization that focuses on economic development.
anything that helps entrepreneurs and small business in this country is what we're looking for. there is an opportunity here to illustrate desperately needed leadership and collaboration in this country. that's what american business wants right now, clarity. >> the white house is pushing forward with its pick for a top treasury post. despite growing criticism from democrats. noticeably, senator elizabeth warren. the administration has no plans to pull back on the nomination of antonio weiss, a former global investment banker who critics say helped companies avoid taxes by moving their addresses overseas. in an online op-ed, entitled "enough is enough," senator warren writes, in part, this, it is time for the obama administration to loosen the hold that wall street banks have over economic policymaking. sure, big banks are important. but running this economy for american families is a lot more important. politico describes warren's
growing power in the party as a test for senator schumer who is looking to strike a balance between them. in a poll of thousands of members of the left leaning group democracy for america. she definitely has popularity on left and the far, far left for sure. bill cosby is scheduled to take the stage tonight for a performance, as the list of women accusing him of sexual assault grows. a 57-year-old florida nurse says cosby drugged and raped her in las vegas when she was 19. but she continued to see him. and later asked for and received thousands of dollars from him. >> he changed the course of my life. instead of empowering me like he says he does to people, he made me a victim, and all my life, i've been a victim because of
this. that doesn't go away for all the days of my life. >> the wife of the incredible hulk actor lou ferrigno is also speaking out. claims cosby tried to force himself on her at his home in 1967 but she was able to get away. new york's daily news says it has an exclusive interview with another woman who says the comedian lured her into a hotel room in 1992 and assaulted her. and an actress who appeared in "one flew over the cuckoo's nest" says cosby forced her to perform oral sex in a tonight show dressing room. cosby's attorneys disputed the allegations. saying, the stories are getting more ridiculous. i think people are trying to come up with these wild stories in order to justify why they have waited 40 to 50 years to disclose these ridiculous accusations. the producers of "the cosby
show" break their silence saying the being accusations are beyon knowledge or comprehension. florida is scheduled to appear tonight in melbourne. he did not address allegations last night during a show in the bahamas. in the past, cosby has denied allegations made by other women. has never been criminally charged. >> he's going to have to company out and say something at some point. it's getting away from him. if these allegations are true. it's obviously horrible. that ap interview he did a couple nights ago where he on camera asked the correspondent to edit out the question and his response about this. >> he didn't even respond. >> kind of what i thought was telling. none of this is proven. but he needs to talk about it. >> still ahead, the congressman from california joins the conversation. ahead of the president's event
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time now to take a look at the morning papers. business insider -- this is very interesting. a walmart in oklahoma is holding a food collection for its own employees. according to the store manager, idea of the food drive came from an employee who wanted to help co-workers experiencing hardship. critic, say the drive is proof walmart does not pai its employees enough. the company maintains it is simply employees taking care of each other it the average hourly wage at walmart, full and part-time employees, is $11. >> "the new york times" executive editor of "the new york times," former, jill abramson may launch a new journalism website with the huffington post. reports say the talks are ongoing but a decision is expected soon. >> "the wall street journal," "better call sal." the prequel to amc's hit show
"breaking bad" is set to air on sunday february 8th. the new show will run for ten episodes during its first season and amc has given the green light for a second season. exciting. >> cannot wait. >> love him. >> in an interview with "usa today," suspended vikings running back adrian peterson appears to show the remorse commissioner goodell said had been lacking. peterson said he will never again use a switch on his child, admitting there are better ways to discipline. he said, quote, no one knows how i felt when i turned my child around after spanking him and seeing what i had left on his leg. no one knows that dad sat there and apologized to him, hugged him and told him that i didn't mean to do this to you and how sorry i was. peterson also shared his hopes to return to the vikings. said he's looking forward to an opportunity to meet face-to-face with goodell to share his regret in person. >> all right. "usa today," thanksgiving travel is expected to reach its high ev level since 2007. aaa estimates 46 million people will travel at 50 miles or more
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it has helped so many of our families. i know for him it is a personal issue. even though whatever else is involved with it, i think at the end of the day, it's going to be about the families that have met him, the families that have interacted with him. i don't think any other senator in this country has taken the time like him to actually go to our homes to meet with us, to actually see how we live. there's a lot of candidates that are running for lower offices that don't even take the time to do that. >> all right. that was an immigration activist from las vegas. one of the so-called dreamers who president obama mentionneedn
his speech last night. joining us now, host of ralston reports, jon ralston. from los angeles, democratic congressman tony cardenes from california, elected by his colleagues to lead the main fund-raising arm for the congressional hispanic caucus. also with us from washington, the host of msnbc's "the rundown," jose diaz-balart. good to have you. jon, the president's heading your way today. what is his strategy to drive the point home? >> las vegas has a large hispanic population. the largest hispanic population in the country at about 7%. he has been to the high school where he's going to sign the executive action twice before, including in january of 2013, when he laid out what he hoped was going to be the immigration reform bill that passed. there's a lot of symbolism here.
but it's also a big favor i think to harry reid who you just met, you just saw. harry reid has talked a lot about astrid silva. the president brought up astrid silva in his speech. what's not as well known is astrid silva's father has been under a deportation order for some time and it appears he is going to be covered by this executive action. >> jose diaz-balart, i'd like you to take it to representative cardenes. first, give me a sense of how you think the president did last night. >> for millions of people in this country who have been living here for more than five years who have u.s. born children or residents in the united states, this is a life changing thing. because even though it's going to be limited for a three-year period, this is going to be the opportunity of millions and millions of families to company out from under the shadows of fear and be able to participate in this country in a way they've
been doing, many of them, for many years, but now they will be able to do so without the fear of disappearing. there are millions of people that every day leave their homes, to drop their children off at the bus stop or to go to work and don't know if they are going to come home at the end of the day because they don't have the papers. this is a life-changing thing for millions of people. and we have to remember, the last six years, 2 million people have been deported from the united states. that's the entire city of houston that has been deported. and this is going to mean a b big -- for millions of people. >> when we look at this and we think about astrid silva and her dad, their situation existed prior to the midterms. and that's painful for their family. it's painful for millions of families that are suffering just
like theirs. but how does this not look just blatantly political from the president not trying to steal the football from the republicans try to get any type of senate from being the ones to helm immigration reform for congress and he's trying to get credit for it, the president that has supported millions of people as jose points out. >> everybody in every elected office has a job. the president is the executive branch. they have a responsibility to exercise and follow through with the laws that have been enacted and the right to interpret them as well. that's what an executive order is about. the one thing i want everybody to understand, this is not just about 4 million undocumented people who are working really hard. it's about over 300 million americans. i say it's really three top issues that we're covering here with this executive action. and that is the economy, the economy, the economy. the president just set in motion an additional close to $4.5
billion over the next five years. >> congressman, why do this now? why not do this? astrid's situation, her father's situation, the situation for millions of people that have been struggling through a broken immigration system has existed and it has languished for a very long time. the president campaigned on this in '08. here we are now in his last two years seeing some type of executive action. and this is now the time where we're seeing the gop-led house, the gop-led senate, saying that they want to lead. take the football on this. and this is just the democrats saying we don't want to give you any credit for immigration reform and getting any type of thunder with the latin community. >> i would love for the republicans to take credit. the 14 republican senators should take credit. they help pass a bill. 68 out of 100 u.s. senators. this is actually instead of bipartisan tripartisan. there were two independent
senators who voted for it and 52 democrats. 68 united states senators voted for this legislation. now it's been sitting in our house. republican-controlled house. for over 500 days. so i think what happened is the president finally said enough is enough. we need to take care of our economy. we need to take care of business. and the bottom line is, like i said earlier, it's not about the president doing anything that congress didn't do. it's about the president doing something to help our economy forward. the congress refuses to do. so he's using his authority to interpret the current laws and he actually did a wonderful job. >> congressman tony cardenes, thank you. thank you very much. still ahead, willie geist goes behind the scenes of "saturday night live's" weekend update as the late-night comedy show enjoys its 40th season on the year. more "morning joe" when we return. ♪ ♪
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chevy chase, tina fey, seth meyers, amy poehler, just a few who made names for themselves on "snl's" weekend update this season. a two-man orananchor team is att famous deck. as they gear up for their seventh "weekend update" here tomorrow night. it's the longest running sketch in "saturday night live" history. over the past 40 years, it has featured some of the biggest names in american comedy. this year, a new team has suited up to deliver the news. >> good evening. welcome to "weekend update." >> this week, president obama travelled to asia to meet with
leaders from china, russia and japan to deal with some pretty tough questions like who wore it best. >> new research shows that reindeer in norway have an unusually high level of radiation from dust due to the 1986 chernobyl meltdown. in fact, you could even say they glow. >> like his friend and predecessor seth meyers, colin is not just an anchor man, he's also snl's co-head writer. joined by one-time "daily show" correspondent michael cha. >> how long have you known each other? did your paths cross before this? >> yeah, what do you think, two, three years? >> no, it's got to be more than that. about three years. >> what do you remember about colin watching him do stand-up? >> like, great hair. >> good takeaway. >> like a white me.
>> was michael the kind of guy who stands out to you? >> i saw him and really just wanted to have him here because i thought he was super funny. >> collins picked up the phone and called michael. in the space of a year, he has gone from guest writer to full-time anchor. >> i remember colin saying would you come in to guest write. i was like, sure. but i didn't know what guest write meant. i thought i would be shadowing a writer and getting coffee. maybe getting a bagel maybe or something like that, but that would be my job. but it wasn't. >> would you intern? >> yeah, that's what i honestly thought. >> as the pair finds its groove, six episodes in, one thing the guys are trying not to do is stop and think about the big seats they fill. >> chevy, jane curtin, norm, colin, jimmy, amy, tina, seth. >> it is crazy when you think about it. we can't think about it, you know, you have to be funny. >> i'm sure you know there are
entire blogs dedicated to this sketch and we're going to grade this week and we're going to -- >> can i just say, listen, just enjoy the show. don't grade it. if it's not funny, just don't laugh. no one's getting hurt. >> i give that an "a." >> thank you. >> colin and michael gave me a behind the scenes peek at "saturday night live" where i learned the secrets of the show's success. through the hallowed, if somewhat sparse halls once walked by the likes of belushi and farley. >> hallway getting narrower like "alice in wonderland." and into the luxurious writers room where "snl" comedy has been born for 40 years. >> photos of anyone's who been a credited writer. conan o'brien. adam sandler. >> while they may not have the instant recognition of conan or larry david, one of them has his first doppelganger.
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welcome back to "morning joe." 46 past the hour. democrats are dealing with some party in fighting when it comes to a far reaching report on the cia's use of torture. several senators were locked in a closed door standoff on thursday with president obama's chief of staff. the lawmakers accuse the white house of siding with the intelligence agency in efforts to scrub key details included in the findings. democrats are reportedly concerns that the release of the report may be dragged out even longer. now that republicans are taking control of congress. senator mark udall, who lost his bid for re-election, is considering options to bypass the white house altogether. and declassify the report without the blessing of the executive branch. thomas. >> the pentagon is not waiting for approval from congress before deploying additional
american troops to iraq. the military suggested that it would wait for legislation, wait on the funding from capitol hill before the mission began. it's still unclear when lawmakers will act on a multibillion dollar request to fund operations against militants. the president announced he would send another 1,500 american troops to the region and train and advise iraqi forces in the fight against isis. >> former president jimmy carter is offering up some criticism of former secretary of state hillary clinton for defending israel's response to rocket attacks over the summer which left thousands of palestinians dead. >> that concerns me s me to som degree. i said earlier my main prayer's to bring peace to israel. you have to do it with justice and fairness to the palestinians. and there's not equality in military power between the palestinians and israel.
i've been to gaza after the attacks in 2008, 2009. every school in gaza was completely destroyed, including the american school. every hospital in gaza was destroyed. >> full interview with president carter will air on his show today at 1:00 eastern right here on msnbc. >> new details emerging about the florida state aluminas who opened fire, wounding three people before being killed by police. officials identify the shooter as 31-year-old myron may of new mexico, an attorney who graduated from fsu in 2005. his family says he returned to florida a few weeks ago, hoping to open a law practice there. investigators say they found journals written by may that led them to believe he was in a state of crisis at the time of shooting and was holding deep fears of the government. just before 12:30 thursday morning, may shot three people at the school's main library as
hundreds were studying for exams. authorities say one shooting victim is in critical condition. another now listed in good condition. the third was treated and released. >> all right. time now for business before the bell. we go to cnbc's sara eisen. the market looks like it's opening up higher this morning. what's driving it? >> well, there is this friday morning celebration. and the driver is central banks. not in this country, but globally. we got some comments very early this morning from europe, the head of the central bank there saying he's open to doing more when it companies to stimulus for europe's economy. also china cut interest rates. that was a surprise. it's basically an indication that easy money, easy policies all over the world, even if they're coming from overseas, continue to drive money into u.s. stocks. and with that said, we are set to open at record highs for the s&p 500, for the dow jones industrial average and 14 1/2 year highs for the nasdaq, the
tech heavy index. we're looking at our fifth week in a row of gains. a lot of people talk about the santa claus rally where the markets jump toward the end of the year. better economic data in this country and easy central bank action overseas and that is a recipe for pretty strong stock market at the open. >> behind you, can you tell him it's looking good. >> yeah. >> excellent. >> thumbs up, yeah. >> he was having a hard time there. >> wearing a tie on casual friday. it really has been a pretty solid week. i want to underscore the news in this country, guys, has been good on the economy. you talk about retailers during this time of the year. we got the latest report from gap beating expectations. retailers have had challenges lately with store traffic and getting people through, having to deal with a lot of promotions. but overall, everyone from on the low income scale and the middle income scale like walmart and target have been beating the streets forecast and even some
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who is here to give us the latest effort to take on ebola in west africa. i've been on several airlifts when i was much younger as a journalist and also as a citizen, as a volunteer. you guys are amazing. when there is a disaster anywhere in the world, you swarm the area with the help that is ne needed. for ebola, you guys have got three treatment units in liberia alone, plus what else? >> we've been working this since april. we have the first call from one of our partner hospitals there in april, saying we've got some ebola cases, what can you do for us? we've been providing personal protective equipment. iv fluids for patients. over 4 million relief items. we also mobilized medical teams to go and serve there. >> so part of what you do is to get companies to jump in and try to get the support from wherever you can find it. medical supplies, food, whatever. how has the response been to
getting help to where the problem is, west africa? >> it's an interesting response. i think our government has responded well. maybe a little slowly, but relatively well in terms of setting up these ebola treatment units. we've had great support from our corporate partners who are there with a lot of material aid. this has not caused a lot support from the american public generally. we need support for the efforts we're doing not only right now but considering what we need to do to accomplish long-term goals here. >> thomas. >> when we talk about the situation of the spread, michael, and the containment of that, where does it stand right now? countries like sierra leone, liberia? >> what we're seeing in liberia is the case counts coming down, which is really good news. that's a success story. we should be grateful for that. that's evidence the strategy's working. if you put health workers in there, you give them the materials they need and you train them, you do public information messaging to the people in the community, and it works. this works. now, it's not happening in
sierra leone quite as fast. the numbers are still rising there. guinea seems to be flattening out a little bit too. we've got a new scare in mali. this is not done by any means. >> who are the corporate partners who have been most helpful, you know, because it's -- i think -- were you saying to me this is hard to sell? >> to the general public. think most of the general republican has been the few cases in the united states. the reality is people are dying every day in west africa and that's where we really need to be focused. we need the general public to come stand with us as well. and support us the way they have done in earthquakes and typhoons and those sorts of incidents as well. we need them along. corporate partners have been great. the company backster donated 50,000 bags of iv fluids. and cardinal health just hundreds and hundreds of thousands of items of personal protective gear, masks and gloves and boots and gloun s a.
we need the public to stand up too. >> when we talk about health workers, we have is the extreme situation where we just had the unfortunate loss of a 44-year-old american doctor who passed away after coming back from sierra leone. and then we have the huge example of kaci hickox who came back and was treated with the isolation in maine. from what you're hearing on the inside is that stopping people from wanting to be of service? >> no, it's not stopping people. we've had a tremendous su brt from american doctors and nurses we've contacted, asked them to go. this is really to me the great spirit american compassion. this is what we do. people see a crisis. they know we need a response. they raised their hand to go. we were talking with one of the nurses we placed there in liberia. she was going to go for an eight-week rotation. she said, i'm going to stay longer and do more. this is the great american spirit. >> i know from having been a volunteer and gone on these airlifts, these are hard.
this is grueling hard work that, you know, a lot of people -- >> no, that's true. >> people of ameri cares, like if you want the most fantastic experience of your life, volunteer, donate. >> i just want to say about the health workers that are going, these are people who are going to give up their holidays, they're going to give up their comfort. these are people who are sweating it out in their protective equipment. and yet they say we want to stay, we want to keep doing it. they're responding in the great spirit of american compassion. >> it is great to have you. good luck with everything. i learned i'm a johns hopkins mom. my daughter's home from vacation. "the rundown" with jose diaz-balart is up next. >> i know some of the critics of this action call it amnesty. well, it's not.
senator mary landrieu says she has the 60 votes needed to advance a bill authorizing the construction of the controversial keystone pipeline when it comes up for a vote today. we'll be watching that one. an architect will [ music playing ] 6r7b8g9s at the g 20 summit, politicians took a break from saving the world. take a look at these three photos that have never shaken hands before. you put your, you put your hand on red and your left hand on yellow. hold on, spin it.
spin it! they took a break posing for pictures holding koala bears, vladmir putin and prime minister tony abbott with koalaings. here's other one with president obama and a koala. apparently kim jong-un heard about this and field bad. so he had his photo taken with a koala. cute. >> oh, speaking of koala bears, joe. >> yeah. >> have you seen willie lately in. >> oh my gosh. i know. so. >> so cuddly. >> let's have some grooming i would id things going on here. >> less than two weeks. the countdown is on. >> good morning, everybody. november 18th. >> with us on set, we have economic analyst steve radner and willie, joe and me. good morning, joe. >> yeah. >> before we get to the fuse,
which is a lot. tammy duckworth. have you seen the story? do you think she should have been able to deliver her vote to the committee? >> there is politics involved. she allowed the vote by problxy what do you think? >> you know, it's not been done before, in this case, you have a woman that's eight months pregnant. you get a doctor who told her she can't fly to washington, d.c., so you can make that exception. a lot of people are criticizing nancy pelosi. the people who are criticizing themselves are all the people who tried to use their situation so they can also cast a proxy vote. that's when nancy pelosi had to say no, people started saying, yeah, i may have a chipped tooth. i may have. everybody came up with an excuse and so hopefully nancy will be,
i don't know, an exception should have been made. it wasn't made. >> it worked in washington now. so they're going to have to just adjust. we'll get back to that. maybe there is more to this story. we are following a developing story this morning out of jerusalem, where two palestinian men stormed a sin go, attacking worshippers inside t. attack left four people dead and at least four more wounded. the two men attacked congress regants inside the orthodoxed neighborhood before killed in a shootout from police. the men were said to be from east jerusalem, fueling one over another. >> people would come to worship god in the sanctuary of the sin knowing, were hatcheted and hacked and murdered in that holy place in an act of pure terror and senseless brutality and
murder. this violence has no place anywhere. >> palestinian president pla mud abbas condemned the attacks while hamas praised them but did not claim responsibility. turning now to obamacare where this morning the washington freebie conhas footage on its website of a 2006 panel discussion featuring then senator barak obama. it includes a sound byte where the future president praises a group of academic, including economist jonathan gruber, who has been all over the headlines recently for say that the stupidity of the american voter happe helped congress pass health care. >> you have already drawn some of the brightest minds from academia and policy circles. many of them i have stolen lit lal
lally my good friend jim wallace who can inform what are sometimes dry policy debates with a prophetic voice. >> president obama was less complimentary when asked about gruber earlier this week. >> i just heard about this i get well briefed before i come out here the fact that the summit adviser who never worked on our staff expressed an opinion that i completely disagree with in terms of the voters is no reflex on the process that was run. >> fact checkers say gruber earned almost $400,000 and earned reportedly $2 million for an ongoing contract with hhs, the national review puts the figure far higher as if 6 million. it lists paychecks to gruber
from a number of states, including vermillion, minnesota and michigan to name a few. david axelrod recently wrote, if you looked up stupid in the dictionary, you'd find gruber's picture. he went on to add one note, his contributions to the ar ca, like governor romney's massachusetts plan were valuable. hills quips were offensive. nancy pelosi recently said she doesn't know who jonathan gruber is, although she touted his work back in 2009. joe. i don't know from to start. he got $103 million from the department of state, many insurance mince, $293,600 from the department of hhs. $1.73 million from the justice department. 2 million $50,000 from the u.s.
national institutes for health. he's a guy that went into the white house i believe to help construct this plan a dozen of times, in fact, the president said he helped write the affordable care act. if these people that are saying every couple days, who gruber, where gruber, horton hears a gruber. they're embarrassing themselves. nancy pelosi saying she has never heard of jonathan gruber barak obama is doing this act. i don't know who tells him it makes him look cool it doesn't it makes him look out of touch. how many times do we hear i was just told about this va ca vasc.
if he were president of the united states he said jonathan gruber for health care reform. i mean, there is talk about taking a one-day story and making it a one-week or two-week story, they should have just come out and said jonathan grubary strong guy, they helped us draft there bill. he's an idiot. there are obvious reasons why he's a tenured professor. because he's an idiot in front of cameras. he helped put together this package. they can't get out of tear way. >> here's the thing. watching those two sound bytes back to back when the president
said he didn't joe is absolutely right. the white house staff, you got to wonder about the staff. you got a smart guy saying stupid things. why they don't say just that, by the way, what is the obsession with taking 10 million people off the health care rolls? >> with the president mentioning his name. i didn't see it. how many speeches or book events where you thank the person or give a nod, have you no idea who they were. he was reading that off the script. it's not so gotcha. >> i have been in situations on a much, much smaller level. on a much, much, smaller level, where you are running for office. but every presidential candidate guess through this.
who are the people you are going to surround yourself with when you become president of the united states and people say, well, you know, colin powell over here and it would be great to have leon panet thta over he. so if you are president of the united states, we will know which direction you are going to go if. steve radner, he brought up jonathan gruber and he did that for a reason because gruber has put together romney care up in massachusetts. he wanted him to put together obamacare in washington, d.c. i think that is a very. i don't want to say gotcha moment. because this is taken care of by the president you know engaging in politics 101 he's a smart guy. he said some stupid things. instead of steve pretending like he didn't even know who he was. >> i think that's exactly the point. jonathan gruber was back in the day in 2009 the guru on health
care as you said, he designed the massachusetts plan for romney i think if you go back and look at the washington post or the new york times times in that period jonathan gruber's fame will be all over it on health care quoted by everybody, who the white house was using mg i don't think we few the dollar numbers he was paid at the time. he was certainly i remember that when i was in the white house, he was certainly viewed as an important figure in helping to put obamacare towing. so it's exactly what you said. the problem is not that gruber helped them put obamacare together. he was the man. the problem is what he said in the last two weeks and how the white house has handled it. >> you can almost hear david axelrod's frustration in that tweet say, hey, guys, this is the answer to the question. he's a stupid guy. he helped write it. he did some good things for us. we condemn these comments. he keens going day after day after more tapes come out. it's not a one-time gap for
gruber. there are six, seven, eight videos where he has total contempt for the american people and can say they don't have toll economic, so we can slip this by him. >> at this point to sort offing a like i don't know who this gruber guy is, it's again just say it, what an idiot. >> i would just say when democrats lost the election, you let me down, guys, just say it. >> it's funny, what willie said is exactly right. when i saw david axelrod's tweet yesterday, it was like, okay. he is pulling out his hair in chicago. he was trying to send a single, guys, say he was really important in this because people aren't dumb. it's almost like the white house thinks people are as stupid as jonathan gruber thinks people are. >> oh, please. >> i'm serious. >> i know. >> by saying if you think can you go out and say we don't know who this guy is when he got paid millions and millions of dollars by the federal government. he was one of the architects of
obama case organizeing for america, you identified him as one of the architects, one of the writers of obamacare. barak obama when he was running for president, said when he wanted to keep people running his administration, it's almost like they agree with jonathan gruber we're all stupid and we're not going to be able to google his name and find all of this. they need to put this behind them. >> okay. we'll start by turning the page right now. because dan says we have to move on. as we have discussed, president obama is reportedly poised to take executive action to keep millions of undocumented immigrants from being deported. but a new poll shows resistance on the part of many americans. 46% want the president to wait until the new congress. top senate democrats, harry reid back the president taking action now, writing a letter, showing tear support. as the new york sometimes notes, the president appears to have evolved about using such broad executive action. in 2013, someone asked the
president if he'd consider taking action to keep parents of minors who qualify for the dream act from being deported. >> young people who have basically grown up here are americans that we should welcome. we're not going to have them oefrt under a cloud, under a shadow. if we start broughtening that, then essentially i would be ignoreing the law in a way that i think would be very difficult to defend legally. so that's not an option and i do get a little worried that, you know, advocates of immigration reform start losing heart and immediately thinking. well, you know, somehow there is an out here. if congress doesn't act, we'll just have the president sign something and that will take care of it. we won't have to worry about it. >> all right. joe, take it. >> what jose said what jose got to president to say in that
interview is obviously going to be something we will be hearing time and time again the president of the united states say figure he took president action in this way he is thinking of doing it now, it would actually be unconstitutional. it wouldn't be legal. it's unconstitutional. it's hard a couple years later to turn around and do the very thing you said two years ago as a guy that taught constitutional law at the university of chicago, this action would be unconstitutional. >> president correspondent, tracy lunt, is there any case this spirals into another shutdown standoff? >> reporter: republican leaders are trying hard to prevent that from happening him i think at this point it would take a set of circumstances to get into that storm again. there is a real recognition basically to lose this fight with the brought is to go into another government shutdown. i will say as joe was pointing out, these comments from president obama are definitely going to be something that we
hear over and over and over again from republicans on the hill and i think we know now that the president is definitely going to go forward with this executive order t. question is the timing. i think it does matter if he decides to come out with it before december 11th when the government fwheedz to be funded or after. but after that point, i think the question is how do the long-term politics of this play. >> do americans get upset that the president is, do they view it as the president going around the law doing something that as he said in that interview with jose outside of the law or is it something that becomes politically untenable to reverse? and the president is clearly betting that republicans are going to decide that they don't want to undo this for fear of angering those hispanic voters that they really need entering the presidential election. >> all right. casey, thanks. still ahead on "morning joe" best selling author tony robbins will be here and then the company that took on fork city
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. >> okay. let take a look at the morning post. in california more than one-fifth of the homeless in the u.s. t. nation finds the high poverty rate is to blame for the increase and domestic violence. >> a "new york times" says an executive at uber should consider apologizing for dig up
dirt on the media last friday. he thought the conversation was off the record and says his comments do not reflect the company's views. suggesting hiring opposition researchers to gather info on the personal lives of his critics. he mentioned targeting a female journalist who accused them of sexism and urged other women to delete the app. michael has been at uber for years. >> take a look at this, a local investigative report in new york city finds a radar system at furyk international airport is often not functioning properly and repeatedly sending out false alarms. the system is supposed to prevent collision as planes come too close to one another. but as jim hopper reports the key safety tool isn't working as intended. >> reporter: complaints about the unreliability of the anti-collision radar fill these daily logs.
one controller noting as dx keeps shutting down, we ask tech ops to shut it down completely. our investigation is found from january to february this year. the radar failed to operate properly. 118 out of 131 days. that lack of reliable may have played a role in the closest of close calls last april at newark when an express jet taking off if a united airlines 737 came within 400 feet of colliding. >> he was real closer. >> we are told the radar did alert be every the near miss but gave little time for the controller to react. the daily log shows the radar again false alerted. just 28 minutes before the close call. >> go, jim. >> wait a second. 118 of 181 day the radar at
newark didn't work? >> willie, that's correct. >> i'm flying out of lagardeia or jfk. >> that is absolutely insane. >> how did that happen and not get fixed. they write it down on a newspaper somewhere. >> the reporting. >> the independent chef gordon ramsay is accusing a rival chef of turning up the heat. >> oh my lord. >> sabotageing his new london restaurants opening weekend. ramsay blames quote haters for booking 100 tables left unoccupied. it says he will now recon firm every registration to make sure it's real. >> the biggest chocolate companies are warning of a coming shortage.
farmers are producing less cocoa than the world consumes, if part because of disease and drouchlt analysts warn we are in the middle of a 50-year streak of chocolate production deficits. last year alone the world ate about 7,000 metric tons more chocolate than was produced. mars, one of the largest chocolate numbers says that number could swell to 1 million by 2020. >> some people say hoard gold. i say hoard chocolate. >> keep it in the freezers? >> m & ms. >> this is the greatest marketing ploy of all times by the chocolate industry. >> i love it. >> well done. the new york daily news one woman going all out to prove her loyalty even if it means exchanging vows with him a. 26-year-old woman is intent on
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opinion pages. you guys, give me the no. >> there was no no. we are talking about pike stanton, juan carlos stanton, $335 million. >> how much is that per game? >> that's a lot of money for a miami marlin. >> boehner's immigration inertia forces obama to act. the only reason president obama has to act on immigration reform is house speaker john boehner won't. i repeat. that's the only reason. on june 27ing, 2013 the senate passed a bipartisan reform bill by a 68 to 32 vote. boehner refuses to bring it to the house floor even though he knows it would pass. most republicans vehemently oppose the measure, which means the vote would come from democrats and a few gop moderates. boehner would incur the wrath of his own caucus. that's his problem.
not president obama's. joe, do you agree with that? >> well, i agree with it. but i think the best way to do that is not to go ahead and sign an executive order right now that you've already said years before would be unconstitutional. i think the best way to do that is what bill clinton would do to republicans, set them up for failure. have this as an open debate. talk about it non-stop. campaign with hillary clinton by your side and every other 2016 presidential candidate by your side that every swing state where hispanic voters will determine who perhaps may be the next president of the united states in a close race and have that debate. i mean, a good politician, a great politician like bill clinton would have his opponents twisting in the wind and actually use there as a great excuse to go out and show just how wrong republicans are on this issue if he believes republicans are that wrong on the issue. most americans right now are
saying, we got a new intrath senate. we got a new house him we got a few group of leaders in washington, d.c. and i think that's one of the reasons they don't want the president to move towards executive action right now. but let it play out for two or three months. make this your top issue. if you think you are right, republicans are wrong, embarrass them. there is no reason he can't sign this in march or april. give him one or chance in the new congress him i think there are a lot of people if you do this in a lame duck session, a lot of people say, wait a second, we just elected a new congress. why is the president rushing and doing this unilaterally. >> dana mill banks right this, purity, politic, democrat style, here comes the stae party on the left on a rainy monday morning, 50 activists stood on the muddy front lawn of the capitol hill home of senator mary landrieu advocateing for the louisiana
advocates deal. one of the leaders was in trouble that so many moderate democrats with wishy-washy positions on oil and gas lost their seats this month. he said a smaller group of uniformly liberal democrats would help his cause. many liberals will now say as republicans did after the 2006 and 2008 defeats that is way back to the majority is to be pug naciously tenacious. steve radner, would you agree with that? >> there is the debate going on in the democratic party. it's grand jury to go on at least until we have a nominee between the more centrist people, myself, including hillary clinton, who think these issues are more complicated. things like keystone are more complicated. then have you the other faction, which elizabeth warren is certainly the most visible member at the moment, who are basically arguing for a pure form of liberalism. i think it's an admirable idea
long. cal commitment. i don't think it's one that will lead to great electoral success. >> why do you think with regard to senator landrieu in the issue of the keystone you just mentioned, the keystone pipeline, oil is already being transported by rail through the pipeline route. why has it become so complex? why this dragging out of this? >> so, keystone is an interesting issue. look, what keystone really comes down to is whether, is an effort by environmentalists to stop the production of the this heavy oil up in canada. that's what this is all about. the fact that transporting by rail is much less safe in terms of transporting it by rail and pipeline. this is all about whether you can stop the production of that oil up in canada. today's oil prices, you can't. even at $79 a barrel that, oil will be produced. mary landrieu's issue is her
gulf coast refineries could really use oil. right now they're processing oil from venezuela, having another source from canada would help her refineries. that's why she wants them. >> still ahead, how income equality will continue to grow. despite our best efforts, steve radner will break that down. first, a nation in retreat t. next guest said the country is headed into an area over on instability and war. instead they set aside their isolationist ways. keep it right here on ""morning joe." ♪ ♪ ♪ let us be lovers, we'll marry our fortunes together ♪ ♪ i've got some real estate here in my bag ♪
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the author of the new book out today "america in retreat, the new isolationism and the coming global disorder." it's really good to have you on board. >> good to be here. >> you set up your case for the american intervention abroad writing this, no great power can treat foreign policy as a spectator sport and hope to remain a global power. the world which the democratic nation does not become a world in which dictatorship contend or unite to fill the breach. americans seeking a run to an isolationist garden of eden alone and undisturbed in the world, knowing neither good for evil will soon find themselves living within shooting range of global pandemonium. only. i'm nervous. joe. >> yeah, hey, brett, let me ask you, obviously the debate between the lefts and the rights, also, you got guys like rand paul that are rising to the top of the republican party. >> yeah. >> do you suspect this will be
the defining moment for a republican party foreign policy in 2016? >> yeah, absolutely. this book is as much a brief against some of what rand paul has been talking about as it is against what some of the obama administration has done. i think there is a new foreign policy divide in the country. it's really between the traditionalists and democrats both democrats and republicans of the post-cold war era and isolationists or neoisolationist, even though they don't often like the term, like rand paul and the progressive members of the obama administration, you talk about nation building at home who think that foreign policy and domestic policy is an either or proposition as if we can. >> right. >> we with have our prosperity here without having security among our allies. >> so greg give us bearings on where exactly you are on the spectrum between say bill crystal, a good friend of ours and rand paul?
i would whoic to think of myself in the middle of that on sort of the weinberger doctrine pell doctrine approach which, of course, both sides wouldn't like. but where are you. >> are you more where powell is or bill crystal is? what is your view? >> i'm probably closer to crystal. look the rob we had in the last decade, instead of assuming our role as american policemen, we became america's priests. we were preaching the pos pell of america's way, changing iraq and afghanistan and determine the composition of their parliament, how they allocate oil, how they develop their schools. that's not really a proper rule for the united states. i don't think it's one we can perform or want to perform. what we should be about is a kund that enforces certain norms, rules of order that basically reassures the people
of the world, israel and taiwan that deters aggressive regime and from time to time punishs a wicked and dangerous country. >> so in the 1990s, i was critical the obama administration is running foreign policy, social policy, critical of interventions in bosnia or kosovo, there are two interventions that actually bill crystal supported. where would you stand on that with your world view and where would america retreats stand on conflict where there is not a direct u.s. interest involved? in there that's true. in a way you can look at the balcan interventions and say they were vindicated. limited u.s. intervention, we didn't have combat boots on the ground, making sure yogoslavia didn't come like syria, you have a multi-sectarian,ment multi-ethnic state.
here in new york we've had a lot of safety less crime because of this broken window theory, which emphasizes interventions at the lowest point before the crisis. it's about maintaining order, not reacting to disorder. >> right. >> the analogy in foreign policy works also. if we had been more proactive in iraq and syria, we wouldn't now be dealing with isis and the metastasizing jihadis. >> steve radner. >> so where do the american people fit into this in the sense when you look at the polls, you take the pulse of the country, they're tired of major interventions, they're scared of major interventions. the defense budget has been cut, maybe inadvertently through the sequestration process. americans are worried about their own resources to deal with their own problems. how do you get the american people in line with your vision of foreign policy? >> i think americans are looking for a goldilocks policy. we realized the freedom agenda the pooridge was too hot.
it was more than we can do. i think a lot of americans, especially after the beheadings in syria, realize the obama approach, which is a dissident approach that pooridge is too cold. we are looking for something in the middle. when i wrote there book, we saw strong polk open six to american intervention. now you see americans realize isis is a problem. the nuclearization of iran is another problem. so this book really if it's anything, it's a brief for the next crop of presidential candidates. republicans and democrats to offer them a foreign policy that is in the middle between those two polls, between rand palm, neoisolationism and the agenda of the last decade. >> let's apply, brett, your goldilocks mentality. we have isis, like you, a lot of people think we have done something sooner in syria.
it does exist the way it does. what should president obama the department of defendant be doing if you say this isn't enough? >> look. what we need to do is deal with isis quickly rather than on the installment plan. the older people i think get the de ja vu all over again. first, there are no boots on the ground. there are 1,500. we feed a kind of a shock and awe company against isis. we need to make sure it's not able to consolidate a ministate, not such a ministate in iraq and syria. a kind of intervention on the installment plan is dow jones to essentially allow them to remain in power. on the other hand, we're not there to rescue anbar from its various problems. we're not there to solve tribal differences. we're there to make an example of isis for other jihadis. that was same with iraq. we went into iraq to make an exam of saddam hussein.
the difference was 4,000 american lives. >> all right. the book is america in retreat. brett stevens, thank you very much. congratulations on your club date. still ahead, senator john hoven explains the best case scenario for getting the keystone pipeline to pass in the senate later today. first, will the results from the mid-terms spark a new leadership in income and equality. is that wishful thinking? radner, is it? >> we'll find out. >> he has the carts coming up when we return. ♪
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it. >> it's gotten worse, what's surprising to me is during the campaign there was little talk about it. there was a study during the campaign which i'll show you a cart which makes the problem ab as clear as it can be and brings it up to date. if you look back between the 2010 and 2013 period, the median average income dropped 5% after adjusting for inflation. if you break it down into to the groups the bottom 4% lost 20% t. next 7% and the so-called middle class lost 6% of their income. when you look toward the higher end, the footballs get smaller, minus 2, minus 3 is. then you get to the top 10% up 2%. >> the top 10%. >> actually had their incomes go up 2%. so this is the picture and this is the most recent data for the
federal reserve. one of the interesting things i came across working on this piece is, fact, the u.s. does less to fix the problem than other developed countries. so few look at this chart here and there is a measure of income and equality called the jd co-efficient. the red bars measure it before the government gets involved. before social security. before transfer of payments, before all. that you can see the united states is actually not that different from other countries like germany, the u.k. and even sweden. we have relatively similar levels of income and equality. once the government gets involved these other countries do much more to level the quality of the playing field. we end up the dust has settled at the highest level of income and equality. >> what are the policies that you would recommend, give me two or three policies that you recommend to narrow this gap.
it's not going to happen over one year or five years. it may happen over a decade, how do we start going back the other way? this is just for people watching, even alan greenspan says this is the greatest threat to american capitalism today. it is. you talk about a sclerosis squeezing off the american dream, stopping upward mobile. this is it. what are the two or three things you recommend we do to tighten the gap on income and equality. >> well the first thing, have you to have revenue, if you look at this last chart, you can see we don't have the revenue, our tax rates, are the lowest of all the developed countries. where it's 32%. the average is 37, within europe it's 46.8. we don't want to be europe. unless you tax people you can't pay for things. there are all kind of other policies, for example, we are the only other major development that does not mandate paid
vacation or paid policies. we have no rules on that. >> no one takes it. >> a lot of people. >> you see on this cart, all these other countries offer, mandate require employers to provide paid vacation and paid sick leave. we don't as a country. >> how does vacation narrow the income and equality gap? >> well, that's a quality of life issue in giving people a chance to have time off and not have to work two jobs and all that sort of thing. >> isn't the problem here really the rich, the super rich, because of a lot of technological changes, the super rich are becoming so much more richer than they were, i mean, you look at ceos even back in the '50s and '60s, now they destroy your company and get paid $150 million in a golden parachute. isn't that a big part of this.
if the super rich keep getting much, much richer? >> the super rich are definitely getting much richer. that's a part of this trend. it's globalization, technological change, all these things that have made it harder for the average american to keep up in terms of getting real ways. so the way we have a address it i think is fixing the problem at the lower end. we can do some stuff among the rich. really, what we have to do is provide education, provide training, provide infrastructure, provide more social support kind of program to help the people at the bottom live a little of a better life. i don't think you can going to solve the problem by just tearing down the rich. i don't think there is enough money there, frankly torque solve all problems. i think you would destroy what makes there economy. >> steve radner. >> jack kevin, thank you so much for that statement. i couldn't agree more. >> translator so excited.
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welcome back to "morning joe." look at the sun coming up over walk. that's where we're going. we got the monument for you as well. thank you very much. gorgeous. >> a beautiful day. >> yes. >> joining us now msnbc director. >> the way we look. >> it's dark here in new york. chuck todd here the host of msnbc, lawrence o'donnell is here. he is complaining, where is his coffee? good who lord, what else do you need? >> we'll get through this. >> we have dana milbanks joining willie and me. good to have v to have you on this hour t. senate is set to vote on the keystone pipeline, it remains to be seen. senator mary landrieu locked in a runoff in louisiana is trying to arm twist herself to 60 votes. landrieu is trying to use keystone to show se can deliver
back home. yesterday protesters set up an inflatable pipeline. meanwhile the version of the bill, republican bill cassidy co-sponsored easily cleared the house. cassidy is bringing in support from jeb bush, phil robertson of ""duck dynasty"" even sarah palen. the gop indicated they are pulling their tv money from the race following a similar move from the democrats. yesterday, senator mark begich conceded defeat. conduct, where is this going? >> i think it's going to be a battle. i'm trying to physical out where they find 15 votes. that's a lot of votes. have you the retiring democrats, leaving democrats. can you do that, you'd assume, physical out how to get to 15? i think there will be some of those democrats, maybe if they thought she could win, they might do it. by the way, i don't know how
this helps. >> i think it only highlights a powerlessness. >> if the republicans weren't already in control of the senate next year, then it would be really fascinating if this was the one that tipped the balance of power in the senate what the democrats would be willing to do. >> chuck makes an important point, though, which is lost, it's not clear how this helps her beat bill cassidy. we take it as gospel. that's just not the case. >> joe. >> she could lose by 9. >> i want to go to dana milbank really quickly. you have an interesting, fascinating column right now in the washington post. you talk about the tea party of the left, which it's just one of those things i love when i read something i have been thinking. but i'm too busy with my crayon to actually write it down. i'm glad you did this hard work for me. but i've heard, you look at what the president is doing, for instance on keystone, it doesn't make sense logically.
it's safer to transport via pipeline than trucks, train, automobiles. then you look at the president going to australia and actually attacking one of our closest allies over global warming. a guy that actually believes in global warming. and it seems bizarre and you have a quote in here that reminds me of jim demint who said i would rather have 30 true believers than a majority. it seems like the democrats now on the issue of energy and on the issue of global warming are pulling their leaders too far left. far away from where the american people are going to be. >> joe, i'm always trying to channel your ideas, if you don't have more, you sends them my way. i'll get right on that case. >> i'll color you are picture. >> drop it in the mail. but, yeah, this was a bizarre scene yesterday. i think it's indicative of where we are right now. so what did this election do?
there weren't many moderate democrats in the house, you lost a whole clunk of what past or moderate democrats are in the senate. so now you do have this core of much more liberal democrats and i am hearing that jim demint lines, beginning to hear it people saying it will be much easier in opposition. we will have a much easier time of messaging, you have the nor equivalents on the left saying it's better to be pure, of course, this is completely wrong in the long term, you can see how the mid-terms reward them. >> you know, lawrence, i believe global warming exists. i believe we got to cut carbon emissions radically but dramatically, i said four years ago, we need cafe standards of at least 40 miles per gallon per
car. so i'm there i'm not a diner. at the same time i look at what the democrats are do. i look at the future. we will be the no. 1 producer of oil by 2020 we got a revolution in natural gas. it's got to bring a lot of jobs back to america. how do democrats avoid tea party by environmental activists, some of their biggest contributors. >> they afternoon. first of all, there is no conceivable grover norquist on the left. no one can come up with a name who has that influence, who gets republican legislators literally to sign contracts. >> tom star? >> but he didn't do it. joe, he didn't do it. he was asked to do it in the case of mary lands rue. he didn't. >> wait, are we suggesting tom starr doesn't have as much as
grover norquist who gave millions of dollars or billions. >> it is inkrabl comprable. this is no one submitting contracts for legislators to sign bineing tear votes forever locking them down on a question forever. no such thing. >> so you are basically saying lawrence you don't think the democratic party will be dragged too far left? >> what have they done? all they've done is keystone the president says he has process he wants to play up there is litigation going on in one of the states relevant to whether this thing can be dropped on the roof. >> lawrence, it defies logic. you know it does. this pipeline makes sense.
it's not going to create a zillion jobs. just on the margins, it's environmentally safer. >> so the environmental lobby have a lock on president obama, they can't get him to say he's opposed to keystone, that's how powerle they are. >> yes, that's how powerful they are. any president faced with there would have signed it easily. we disagree on this, obviously, conduct todd, do you disagree as well the environmental movement is not going to move the democratic party too far left in the coming? because they're going to have to make tough decisions, we got an energy resolution, decisions on fracking, on permitting, on creating a lot of american jobs in the future. >> i think the jury is still out. let's see if they do. this hasn't happened before. there has been some activism in
the democratic primaries on the house level. but not really. we haven't seen the type of activity you are describing with the tea party and the right just yet. i'm not saying we wouldn't. >> i think at the president rnl primary. >> why hasn't the president signed the keystone bill. >>. >> i think on this, i don't know why he's not using it as a bargaining chip. >> on the democrat's side, listen to environmental activists on the democratic side. they are wildly dissatisfied with president obama's administration in their category. they are constantly saying, he's done nothing. that's their refrain. they're disappointed. >> that's what winger has always said about ronald reagan. he was there, he was never conservative enough. he was a moderate squish. of course, that's what extremists do. so you freeze the president.
you know how this game is played, lawrence. >> people are not extremists joe, they are looking at science. they want a certain outcome based on their analysis of the science. i don't think that's extremist. there is an objective they want they aren't achieving. >> that doesn't make them extremists. >> well, do you think that florida is going to be under water in 50 to sfwief to 100 years? are you an extremist. few want to say, there is a difference between being an environmental alarmist and activist. again, i believe if global warming. i believe in climate change. i believe that man has a very big contribution to that. i believe we have to slow down carbon emissions. if i look logically. i have scientists telling me keystone will actually deliver oil to the gulf of mexico in a more environmentally safe way tan driving around in trucks and another, i am going to logically say, well that makes sevenls i will not be an ideologue driven
to an ideologue battle. i will let reason and facts lead the way. i don't think that's happening in this case. >> you sound like a lefty environmental activist. >> i will move to the next level here. >> hold on. can i sip my soy latte? we have run out of soy. go ahead,ab go ahead, mica. >> president obama is keeping dozens of undocumented immigrants from being desported. 46% want the president to wait until the new congress. top senate democrats, including harry reid, taking action now, writing a letter showing support t. "new york times" notes the president evofltd about using such broad executive action. in 2013, jose delaria asked the
president if he considered minors from the dream act from being deported. >> young people who have basically grown up here are americans that we should welcome. we're not going to have them operate under a cloud, under a shad dome. but if we start broadening that, then essentially i would be ignoreing the law in a way that i think would be very difficult to defend legally. so that's not an option and i do get a little worried that, you know, advocates of immigration reform start losing heart and immediatelitying, well, you know, somehow there is an out here, if congress doesn't act, we'll just have the president sign something and that will take care of it. we won't have to worry about it. >> dana milbanks, what's the definition for this reversal? >> they hate when you dig up the video tames. you saw the mid-term election, the huge gap between people who
support the legalization and those who don't and you have a president who feels as if he's out of options on the topic and is actually spoiling for a fight. so i think he is basically set the merits aside. he's not going to worry if there is a ted cruz who is going to become president by fiat eliminate obamacare some day. he is making the only political decision he can right now to keep hispanics in the poll. he'd be delighted to get into a shutdown fight with republicans over this, because he thinks he's winning. i think we are dealing strictly with politics. >> the president said in 2013 the problem is i'm brought of the united states, i'm not the emperor of the united states. he was giving john boehner, congress space to do something. now it's clear they aren't doing anything, it's a strategic
shift. >> he was trying to apply political pressure then. now he is applying a different political pressure now. again i go to the same answers, i don't understand why you don't use it as a barring anything chip. i might sit there and say okay on june 1st, 2015, i'm going to do these ten things and i'm going to act. congress, i'll give you to june 1st. something like that but draw a line in the sand, i wouldules it one more shot as a bargaining chip. i think you get public opinion on your side you are making one last effort. >> i agree completely. i will ask laurps completely. doesn't it make more sense i have the president doing it now in a lame duck session? it just has a lern certain look to it. chuck says, i will do these ten things on june 1st or march 1st and then do what bill clinton did to us, showcase our extremism. showcase how ideological you
were. make us look like we have our feet in the sand. go to florida, go to georgia. go to colorado. these different states doesn't that make more political sense? >> my guess is what the white house and the democrats have calculated is understand u under the as far i don't you laid out, we will no longer be believed by the constituency we are trying to help and whose electoral support you suggested would emerge. when you listen to immigration activists out there now, they like environmental activists have run out of patience, they are incredibly dissatisfied with what president obama himself has done. it turns out what he did for the dreamers now feels like a distant memory to them politically. so it seems to me the white
house calculation is they've run out of patience. if other calculation is if we do this now we have to get it behind us so we can try to build some relationship with the new republicans coming in. let's do it before those republicans come in and take over in the senate. >> let's take a look at another issue the affordable care act the washington freebie conhas footage of the we believe site of the 2006 panel discussion featureing then senator barak obama him it includes a sound byte, where the future president praises academics, including jonathan gruber, who has been all over the headlines saying the stupidity of the american voter helped congress pass health care reform. >> you have already drawn some of the brightest minds from academia and policy circles, many of them i have stolen ideas from liberally, people ranging from robert gordon to austin
golds, john gruber. my deer friend jim wallace who i think can inform what are sometimes dry boils debates with a to havetic voice. that's president obama in 2006. president obama was less complimentary about gruber when asked about him earlier this week. >> i just heard about this. i get well briefed before i come out here. the fact that some adviser who never worked on our staff expressed an opinion that i completely disagree with in terms of the voters is no reflection on the actual process it was a run. >> the walk post is reporting that gruber earned almost $400,000 through contracts from the health and human services department. he reportedly earned more than $2 pll with an ongoing contract dealing with the prescription drug plan. the national review puts the figure higher at $6 million give or take.
it lists paychecks to name a few former senior adviser to the president diefd axelrod now out of the white house recently tweeted quote if you looked up "stupid" in the dictionary, use find gruber's pick. yesterday, he added quote, his contribution to the aca like governor's romney's massachusetts plan were valuable. his throw away quips were offensive. nancy pelosi drew attention for saying she didn't know who jonathan gruber is. >> i think his name will become like a verb. there is not grubered or something. the guy, i think to joe's point last hour, let's cut this conversation short, the president should have just said, what a jerk. >> he did. what the president didn't do what nancy pelosi did last week when she pretended to literally not know who gruber was. then you had video of her
talking about gruber years before. look, this fits the michael kingsley definition of a gap. what gruber did, specific language aside the offensive language aside. what he did was tell the truth. legislation always needs collective ignorance about many elements of it in order to move forward. i promise you, there was not one person who voted for the affordable care act, who can tell you more than 30% of what was in it. i had the pleasure of coming on this set, sitting in this chair, announcing to america there were veeven taxes in the affordable care act that no one knew about because they were developed in secret as they always are by senate finance staff, as soon as max baucus' work product was finally public we few that. through the course of that debate, those taxes did not get debated. you couldn't find anyone who could name two or three of those taxes in there that is how these
things move. one of the legislative strategies about secrecy is, as soon as you know there is a medical device tax in this bill, the medical device industry and tear lobbyists will come from an shut that down. so everyone preserving the secrecy of legislation and the moving components of it going through the process think they're doing the right thing. their experience tells them, it's the only way we can get the passed. >> right. if you said it that way. >> it's not the same concept, which is we are trading, counting on you, the voters. >> okay him chuck todd. >> hold on one sec. >> yes. >> did you just do a gruber, lawrence? >> what i said was earn in this legislation knows. >> did you griesh all over yourself? >> i tried not to, joe.
i tried to just joy, anyone who has worked on legislation can tell you, unless it's a simple thing. let's increase the gas tax a nick em. if it's anything more complex than that, i guarantee you there are elements of that legislation the writers of it don't want discussed because they are political liabilities within the legislation that's what gruber was saying. >> i don't want to sound like a neophyte here. >> you do. but dana milbank, if we are talking about one of the most significant pieces of legislation, i'd rank it up there whether you like it or don't like it. as far as being transformative. there is obviously a serious problem. you have the speaker of the house saying we have to physical out what's in it. a couple years later, we find out this guy says, we had to hide it from the american people
because they're too dumb. >> lawrence didn't gruber himself. >> thank you. >> he didn't talk about stupid itty, it's not the concept. it's the way he said it. i can't wait for the hearing when they haul this guy down here, if you didn't turn it into a verb, it will be in a week or so. >> thank you, you do have a little gruber right here. >> oh. >> we'll be watching. first tonight at 10:00 eastern time. >> mica, we need for to you go to the internet and physical out how lawrence gets that out. >> i know. >> it's with me forever now. >> why do i come here? >> i know. you always regret it, don't you? >> i do. >> i've mumbled. okay. everybody does. >> everyone does. >> you think we don't? silly joe and me?
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republican senator john hoven, thank you for being on the show. is this going to go through? >> i think so. we are 59 votes confirmed. we got a couple maybes. i think there is a couple or two more that may join. i think we have a good slot to get it. >> where are the maybes coming from? >> there is a number that haven't said definitely yes or. we'll see how it works out. we don't know until the vote. it's close. >> what's the, obviously controversy over how many jobs it creates, environmental issues. jobs. how many jobs would this create? >> there has been a lot of numbers out there. i usually quote the environmental impact statements. they say a little over 42,000 jobs. >> steve radner? >> yeah, although those 42,000 jobs are 42,000 jobs per year for a total of 42,000 over two years, 21,000 jobs a year for two years t. permanent employment drops down to 35, not
35,000, 35. >> a lot of jobs are as you say construction jobs. then there is both direct and indirect jobs. some are permanent. some are temporary. i understand the economic benefit goes beyond the job creation. it's about energy, it's about producing our energy here at home, working with our closest friend and allie canada. to do that, you got to have infrastructure to move that energy around and it's a foundational industry for other industries in our economy. it makes us more competitive in a global economy. it's a national security issue, too. we don't want to continue to bring in oil from the middle east or venezuela or other places. >> senator, it's willie geist. we have been talking about this for something like six years now. the state department put out its report. all the parties know what's at stake. we know about the jobs, environmental impact. why do you think it's taken so long to finally get to this vote tonight? >> actions speak louder than
words. he's held it up six years. he is trying to defeat it with delays. he is clearly opposed to the project. which is why i have written a bill. i've actually passed a bill. we attached it to the federal tax holiday inn 2012, requiring the president to make a dig. he turned it down. so now we've come back under the congress's call of the constitution, congress is actually approving the project. >> senator, one of the points of controversy surrounding the passage of this bill and the pipeline is of an environmental nature. specifically, it targets an area in nebraska, where there is a potential for the aqua fir water beneath the ground to be spoiled pregnant permanently by potential oil leaks. the water is quite high there. so the oil wouldn't have to seep that far below the ground to spoil it. do you have any environmental concerns about the environmental passage of this bill? >> there is millions of miles of
pipeline that cross the country. we have to always address those issues. in fact, the pipeline has been rerouted to address the aquafer concerns. you got the latest, greatest technologies to make sure you protect the groundwater. >> steve rad fer, real quick. >> last question, senator the other criticism that the president, himself, has made is that this is simply going to get on that pipeline in canada, it will go to new orleans, somewhere in that vicinity, it will be put on ships an sent somewhere else, that it doesn't have direct economic benefit to us? >> yeah, his own department of energy says otherwise in their report in 2011 says it will use the oil near this country and that it will help reduce gas prices and help with our supplies. so again, we don't need to bring it in from venezuela or the middle east. >> senator john hoven. thank you. we'll see what happens. >> thank you. >> good to have you on. coming up, fighting for workers' rights taking on the $4 trillion
supermarket industry, how they are revolutionizing farm labor. >> that story is next. plus to some, he's known as the ceo whisperer. to some, he's a business strategist. tony rob bins will be here. more "morning joe" when we return. >> good to have you on.
more "morning joe" when we . . >> it was saying should you eat organic? iterated milk. it did beef, chicken, iterated vegetables, it said, yes, it's worth the price to boy organic beaver. yes, it's worth the price to buy organic chicken, yes, it's worth the price to buy organic milk.
produce, the most sides are gone. nobody factored in the human cost the human suffering the human exploitation behind it. i was so mood at that article, i thought i would rather buy organic, because we have the most well fed nation in the world and the people that feed us go to bed hungry. >> enjoy actress and activist eva longoria. she is the executive producer of "food chains." here with us is joy. she is so impressive. eva longoria. as mica was watching that. we know her as gabby from "desperate housewives." some people may know her from her soap work. she used her platform in big ways to drive home big messages. this is something we don't think about. supermarkets. explain what she is diving into. >> she is talking about where
your food comes from, we can be very blase about where our food comes from. this is impact. . they take food and put it into context. that context is slavery. americans may not like to recall it. but this country became a world power because of the free work of africans, when that was no longer a tenable system. that was replaced by the cheap labor of african-americans, followed by the cheap labor of successive immigrant groups, whether it was the chinese, mexicans, and this cheap labor continues to fuel the economy even today so you take the wine we'll people are enjoying, the napa valley, the gulp between the people that produce that wine and they live and the people that consume that wine live with that and the other thing the film brings out the supermarket industry fuels this continued use of very cheap labor. we are talking near slave labor that is being utesed to produce
a lot of the food that comes to our table. >> i think maybe some of that is consumers want to say we want to pay the absolute low price, we don't care who it comes from, we want the cheapest head of lettuce. what strikes me really smart about the way she is educating people, you need to pay a little more. pressure wal-mart for its workers. >> talk about marginally more. not substantially more. this isn't the difference between a tomatoes that $3 and $15. we are talking the difference between $3ened $4. >> we can put up unsettleing salaries. the average farm worker earns about $12,000 a year. we also do have a problem where it is hard for a wide swath of the american people to get good food at a price they can afford. >> right. >> healthy food. >> absolutely. food deserts are unfortunately a growing phenomenon in parts of the country. i remember going to missouri
when the first lady was doing a program to encourage healthy eating. this wal-mart they built in missouri was literally, that was it. that was the closest place to get fresh vegetables, fresh food. the issue is we don't have enough food but at the same time we are the best nation on earth. it's who can get access to the freshest, healthiest food and to your point, people want to pay very little money for it. therefore the people that produce it are paid almost nothing. >> the terrible irony of that is making 12 grand to pay a family. you are picking healthy foods, that's not going to work. what major stores have signed on it. steve mentioned wal-mart. they are making a difference. there are other big names making a difference, too, right? >> i think the industry, especially in florida. they have gone after publix. it's the big behemoth in florida. it has not been responsive up to now to this issue. the workers in florida some of the lowest workers have taken
publix on. they're trying to convince firms like them, companies like winn-dixie to pay their workers better. >> this is exactly how it should happen. >> it's not a lot of political power. >> eva longeria. i love it. "food chains" hits theaters nationwide november 21st. you can catch it this afternoon on the reid report at 2:00 right here on msnbc. it's great to have you on. >> thank you. still ahead, mastering the money game, author tony robbins explains the key to financial freedom. next on ""morning joe."" you need a permit... to be this awesome. and you...rent from national. because only national lets you choose any car in the aisle..." and go. you can even take a full-size or above, and still pay the
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1kw sz joining us now, tony robbins. he's the author of the the new book "money: master the game." it's good to have you on the show. >> thank you. >> so you've written -- this is the first book in two decades? >> yes. >> what made you bring this one to the table? >> getting angry. >> what? >> seeing people being taken advantage of for so many years. i've been spent 37 years of my life being obsessed with what makes people's lives change. breakthrough strategies. and there's only a few areas that affect your lives, your body, your relationships, your emotions in money. i grew up very poor. no money and no food at
thanksgiving. it shaped my life. when 2008 happened, it wasn't a bunch of statistics to me. when people are losing their homes and half their retirement income. and i want to be part of the solution. i thought, i know a lot. i would like to know more. i have coached one of the top ten financial traders in the history of the world for 21 years. he's not lost money for 21 years. i thought if i could take him and interview 50 of the smartest people in the world, self made billionaires, top hedge fund guys and find out what they know, then i can take what the best know and teach it to the the general population. >> perfect person to ask you for advice. steve, what would be the question that you would ask him? >> well, so this is something i've thought about a lot. i'm a professional money manager. i spent all my time thinking about how to make more money for my one client. and here's what i don't understand. this is the only profession i know of where people not trained in it think they can do it. you would not write your own will. you would not take out your own
append appendix. you would not fix your car. you would not fix your plumbing. but yet the average american thinks he can manage his own money. i finds it mind boggling. >> when i sat down with warren buffett, when i sat down with one of the greatest hedge fund managers in the world, they all said it makes common sense to hire somebody else. but active management statistically doesn't work. 96% of all mutual funds is untrue. for a ten-year period of trim. they do not match the market. most people think they're paying 1%. they're paying 3%. it does on expenses as well. so if one person starts with three people with $100,000. one payses 1%. one pays 2%. one pays 3%. going to have 574,000. the person with 3% is going to have 254,000. that's 77% less money. same returns. difference is fees. so what warren is doing, he's saying i want all my money to go index funds. 90% when i pass away.
only a few unicorns that can beat the market. what bloomberg has access to. and this is showing what does he say, anybody can do to make money in any market. a lot of people are going to worry what happens. >> for the average person, indexing is the solution. in your zseven steps, one says you should invest the 0.001%. they have access to much more sophisticated products. more sophisticated themselves. i don't think they should be managing money like the 0.1%. i think they should be indexing and taking a passive road. >> we're on the same page with one exception. i went to ray dalia. most people don't know his name. i know you do. president of the united states does. jan el yellen does. he manages money for china. he hasn't taken money in ten years. last time it was $5 billion and $100 million to talk with him. he's been a fan of my work for a long time. at the end i said if you couldn't give any money to your
children and all you could do was give a strategy, a portfolio, what would it be? he said i've tested this since 1925. it's where my money is. it's where my money is for my kids. it's where my money is for all my contributions after my death. i said how does it work? at the end, i said this is great. you explain how you do well in any market. but you told me how to make a chocolate cake. i need to know the amounts. what is the secret sauce? he's never shareded it before ever. he said i can't do that. i said, but you're not taking anybody's money. he said it's complex. i said do a simple version with no leverage. he laid out a version. we testeded it. and if you take it all the way back to 1925, 75 years, it's right 85% of the time. the average loss is 1.6%. and the overall is just under ten. and it's 75 years, the most it's lost is 3.95%. amazing. >> joe is here. >> so mika, tony here is -- i
think his ear piece is out. so you need to pass this along to him. can you hear me, tony? >> hi, how are you? >> i'm doing great. >> so i get in and i make zillions of dollars. now we have a new problem. the 100th anniversary said some of the most miserable people i know are rich. how do you as a life coach explain if you want to get rich to be happy, you're barking up the wrong tree. you make them the money. and now as a life coach, explain to them. it's not going to make you happier. >> it's not the money, it's what you do with it. you can spend $10. and if you're doing it for things, you're going to be miserable. in you do it for experiences, you'll feel very different. if you do it for other people, people you care about, you emotion changes radically. most people get wealthy.
2 challenge is they start expecting things. the highest level was 2006. we had the highest lels of economics in our world. people trade expectation for appreciation. >> so you're supposed to give it all away. >> you know, but the great thing is, and i think maybe you would tell this to people, is we don't have to be bloomberg to have financial freedom. we can find and achieve ways to be financially free and not be manager millionaires or billionaires. >> and i've taken what they know and bring the the strategies never been seen before here. i show people what you don't know will hurt you. i work to bring people an answer that's simple. seven steps. if you're just getting out of the of college and have debt. how do you turn around? if you're a baby boomer and you're behind, what do you do to turn around? this is the best in the world. indexing is one of those strategies. but many of these people share things they've never shared before because they really, truly care, believe it or not. here's what you can do to change your life. >> the book is titled "money: master the game."
tony robbins, thanks so much. great to meet you. coming up, more fallout as president obama downplays. grubergate. down playing his knowledge of the architect of obamacare. plus, public opinion on the president taking executive action on immigration while democrats rally around obama's plan. all that and much more when "morning joe" returns.
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we have mike barnacle and steve ratner. tammy duckworth. do you think she should have been able to deliver her vote in the committee? yes. there's politics involved. she's eight months pregnant. she requested they allow her to vote by proxy. joe, what do you think? >> yeah, you know, it's not been done before. but in this case, you have a woman who is eight months pregnant. and you have a doctor who told her that she can't obviously fly to washington, d.c. so you can make that exception. a lot of people are criticizing nancy pelosi, the people who really should be ashamed of themselves are all the people who tried to use her situation so they could cast a proxy vote. people started saying b, yeah, i may have a shift too. everybody came up with an excuse.
so hopefully nancy will be -- well, i don't know. >> with pregnancy. women work in washington now. and they have babies. so they're going to have to just adjust. we'll get baa to this. we're following a developing story out of jerusalem where two p palestinian men stormed a synagogue. according to israeli officials, the two men attacked inside the orthodox neighborhood with axes, knives and guns before they were killed in a shootout with police. the men were scheduled to be from east jerusalem. >> people who have come to worship god in the sanctuary of the synagogue were hatcheted and hacked and murdered in that holy
place in an act of pure terror. and senseless brutality and murder. this violence has no place anywhere. >> palestinian president condemned the attacks while hamas praised them, but did not claim responsibility. we're going to be following that. but turning now to obamacare where this morning the washington free beacon has footage on its website of a 2006 panel discussion featuring then senator barack obama. it includes a sound bite where the future president praises a group of academics, including economist jonathan gruber who has been all over the headlines for saying the stupidity of the american voter helped congress pass health care. >> you've already drawn some of the brightest minds from academia and policy circles. many of them i've stolen ideas from liberally. people ranging from robert gore
on the to john zbrgruber. my dear friend can inform dry policy debates with a prophetic voice. >> president obama was less complimentary when asked about gruber earlier this week. >> i just heard about this. the fact that some adviser who never worked on the staff expressed an opinion that i completely disagree with in terms of the voters is no reflection on the process that was rung. >> fact checkers say gruber earned almost $400,000 through contracts from the health and human services the department. he also reportedly earned more than 2 million for an ongoing contract with hhs. they put the federal figure
higher, as in 6 million. it lists paychecks from a number of states including vermont, minnesota and michigan to name a few. david a axelrod said if you looked up stupid in the dictionary, you would find gruber's picture. yesterday he was added one note. adding his contributions to the aca like his massachusetts plan were valuable. his throwaway quips were offensive. nancy pelosi also drew attention for recently saying she doesn't know who jonathan gruber is. although she touted his work back in twooip. joe? >> i don't know where to start. i'm looking over this list of how much jonathan gruber made from the federal dovt. $103,000 from the department of state. of course, you talk about minnesota. $1.73 million from the justice department.
$2,050,000 from the national institute of health. he went into the white house, i believe, to help construct this plan. dozens of times. at least a dozen times. and in fact the president's own organizing for america said that he helped, quote, write the affordable care act. if these people that are trotting themselves out every couple of days saying gruber, who? what, where? horton hears a gruber. i don't hear a gruber. they're embarrassing themselves. nancy pelosi saying she's never heard of him, and yet she's praising him at the height of the affordable care act. barack obama doing this act, and i don't know who tells him it makes him look cool. it doesn't. it really makes him look out of touch. how many times have we heard him saying, oh, i just heard about this irs scandal or oh, i was
just told about this scandal, and for barack obama to say he's some adviser when his own team is saying he helped draft the bill. when he was at brookings institute and zd who he would put in charge of reform if he were president of the united states. he said jonathan gruber for health care reform. talk about taking a one-day story and making it a one-week or two-week story. he helped us draft the bill. he's an idiot. for obvious reasons. why he's a tenured professor. he's an idiot in front of cameras. he he's pretty smart behind cameras. and they're screwing things up for themselveses chls. they can't get out of the way. >> watching the two sound bites back to back of the president
when he first mentioned gruber's name and saying he didn't know him. now he should say that guy is an idiot? who here at the table doesn't think he's a jerk? he's a total jerk. he's completely a hypocrite or whatever else. >> you know what he is? i've met him. he's a smart guy who said some unbelievably stupid thing out of ego in front of the camera. joe is absolutely right. the white house staff. you have to wonder. you have a smart guy saying stupid things. why they don't say just that and then say by the way, what is the obsession with taking 10 million people off the health care? >> right. an that stirs sound bite with the president mentioning his name. you know, i'm not going to pretend that was a big gotcha moment. how many events have you done where you thanked the person or given a nod to someone in the audience? you had no idea who they were. he was reading that off a script. it's not so gotcha. >> i've been in situations on a much smaller level.
on a much, much smaller level where you're running for office. every presidential candidate goes for this. who are the people you're going to surround yourself with when you become president of the united states. and people say, well, you know, colin powell over here. it would be great to have leon panetta over here. in this case, and we've all seen this before, steve. in this case he was being asked by the brookings institute, who are the top people you will have around you to influence your thinking? and so if you're president of the united states, we'll know which way you go in. and steve ratner brought up jonathan gruber. he put together romney care in massachusetts. he wanted him to put together obamacare in washington, d.c. i think that's a very -- i don't want to say gotcha moment. he said stupid things. instead of pretending like he didn't know who he was.
>> i think that's exactly the point. he was back in the day, and in 2009, a guru on health care. if you go back and look at t the "washington post" or "the new york times" or anything this in that period, you'll find jonathan gruber's name all over it as a leading health care expert as quoted by everyone. someone the white house was using. he was certainly viewed as an important figure in helping to put obamacare together. so the problem is not that he helped him put obamacare together. >> you can almost hear david axelrod's frustration. saying this is the answer to the kweb. we condemn these comments and you move on.
but it keeps going day after day after day. it's not a one-time. there are six, seven, eight videos where he has total contempt for the american people and says they don't understand economics. so we can slip this thing by them. >> and to joe's point. at this point to act like, i don't know who this gruber guy is, it's again, just what an idiot. >> when democrats lost the election, you let me down, guys. just say it. >> you know, mika, it's funny. what willie said is exactly right. when i saw david axelrod's tweet yesterday. i was like, okay. david is pulling out his hair in chicago. >> exactly. guys, say he was really important in this. people aren't dumb. it's almost like the white house thinks people are as stupid as jonathan gruber thinks people are. >> oh, please. >> i'm serious. >> i know. >> by saying if you think you can go out and say, oh, we don't know who this guy is, when he
got paid millions and millions of dollars by the federal government. he was one of the architects of obamacare. and they identified him as an architect. one of the writers of obamacare. he said he wanted the keep people helping him put together his administration. it's almost as if they agree that we're all stupid and not going to be able to google his name and find all this. they need to put this behind him. >> we'll start by turning the page. parking light obama is poised to take executive action to keep millions of undocumented immigrants from being reported. 46% want the president to wait until l the new congress. top senate democrats including harry reid backed the president, taking action now, showing their support, and as "the new york times" notes, the the president appears to have evolved against
using the broad executive action. in 2014, he asked the president if he considered taking action to keep parents of minors who qualified from the dream act from being deported. >> young people who have basically grown up here are americans that we should welcome. and we're not going to have them operate under a cloud, under a shadow. but if we start broadening that, then essentially, i would be ignoring the law, in a way that i think would be very difficult to defend legally. so that's not an option, and i do get a little worried that, you know advocates of immigration reform start losing heart and immediately think iin that there's somehow an out here. we'll have the president sign something and we don't have to worry about it. >> all right. what jose said.
what he got the president to say in that interview is obviously going to be something we're hearing time and time again. the president saying he took executive action in this way. he's thinking about doing it now. it would be unconstitutional. wouldn't be legal. it's hard to turn around and do the very thing you just said a few years ago. this action would be unconstitutional. >> joining us now from capitol hill, nbc political correspondent casey hunt. is there any way this spirals down to another standoff? >> republicans are trying really hard to prevent that from happening. at this point it would have to take a serious set of circumstances to get them to step into that storm again. basically the only way to lose this fight is to go into another government shut yn down.
as joe was pointing out, these comments from president obama are going to be something that we hear over and over and over again from republicans on the hill. and i think we know now that the president is definitely going to go forward with this executive order. the question is the timing. i think it matters if he decides to come out with before december 11th, whether the government needs to be funded or after. but after that point, the question is how do the long-term politics of this play? do americans get upset. do they view it as the president going around the law? doing something that he said is outside of the law? or does it become untenable to reverse? and the president is clearly betting that republicans are fwroing to decide they don't want to undo this for fear of angering hispanic voters. that they really need in the the upcoming presidential election. >> still ahead on "morning joe", senator claire mccaskill weighs in on the immigration debate. and then the author david
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gather inf on the personal lives of critics. he specifically mentioned targeting a female journalist and urged other women to delete the app. he's been at uber for over a year. that fs a buzzfeed report yesterday. >> and a local investigative report in new york city finds a radar system at newark international airport is not functioning properly and repeatedly sending off false alarms. the system is supposed to prevent collisions by warning air traffic controllers that planes come too close to one another. but as jim hopper reports, the key safety tool isn't working as intended. >> complaints about the unreliability of the anti-collision radar fill the daily logs. one controller noting as dx keeps shutting down, we ask tech ops to shut it down completely. our investigation found from february through july of this year the radar failed to work properly. 118 out of 181 days.
that lack of reliability may have played a role in the closest of close calls last april at newark when an express jet taking off to united airlineses 737 came within 400 feet of colliding. >> yeah, he was real close. >> we're told the radar did alert before the near miss, but gave little time for the controller to react. the daily log for that day also shows the radar came in. just 28 minutes before the close call. >> oh my god. go, jim. that's a good story. >> wait a second. 118 of 181 days the radar in newark didn't work. flying out of laguardia today. >> i'll drive to philly from now on. jeesh. >> oh my word. >> i'll drive to philly. that is absolutely insane.
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live look at washington, d.c. a beautiful day there. we're going to get to some major politics in play today in just a moment. but first, a state of emergency is now in effect in missouri. as a grand jury decides whether or not to diet a white police officer who shot and killed an unarmed black teen. democratic governor jay nixon issued the executive order in anticipation of possible unrest over the grand jury's decision. that action includes calling up the national guard to assist local law enforcement. violent protests erupted in august after darren wilson shot 18-year-old michael brown. governor nixon says he hopes those types of demonstrations do not happen again, but he has a duty to keep the public safe. but the governor seemed to struggle a bit in a conference call when asked if he is ultimately responsible for the response to the possible
protests. >> we're -- you know, it -- it -- you know, our goal is here to -- is to -- you know, keep the peace and allow folks' voices to be heard. and in that balance, i'm attempting, you know, i am using the resources that we have to marshal to be predictable for both of those pillars. i don't, you know, i'm more -- i -- i just am going to have to say i don't spend a tremendous amount of time personalizing this. >> joining us now from capitol hill, member of the the armed services committee, claire mccaskill of missouri. claire, great to have you on the show. let's start there as this plays out in your state in ferguson. is the national guard at the ready the right thing to do? >> well, first of all, this is
not the time for any of us to be criticizing anyone else. this is really hard. i think we need to spend more time talking about how we heal and make reforms. we've got a police department in ferguson that is 95% white in a community that's 70% african-american. that's a problem. we have racial profiling still occurring across the country day in and day out. i think we need to be leading, all of us, with how we come together and realize we can do a better job in our criminal justice system of making sure there's equal justice for all. and by the way, many of the police officers have done heroic and wonderful work. and they are tasked with a very, very difficult job. and that is protecting people's first amendment rights. but also making sure the bad actors that want confrontation are not allowed to incite the kind of violence where people
could get hurt. so i am spending all my time working on the -- since i have no direct authority, i've been spending my time trying to work behind the scenes with the ferguson police department in making reforms there. with the community leaders that are trying to see if we can't change our municipal court system and do a much better job recruiting young african-americans. both that run for office and into law enforcement. >> certainly a careful balance that you're trying to strike there. joe? >> yeah, and claire, obviously we agree with you completely about the disparity and the racial makeup of that police force and shocked by some of the things the mayor of ferguson 15id earlier this year. i want to ask you about the police officer and his family. obviously a lot of threats have cropped up online. if he is not indicted, if the grand jury comes back and finds he did nothing inappropriate, what would you say to missouri residents about this police officer and how he should be treated moving the forward in the community? >> well, i think first of all we
have two separate independent investigations going on. a state investigation and a federal investigation. both are looking at all of the evidence. and when the grand jury finishes with a witness, that testimony is going directly to the federal government for their review. >> right and so there's really two independent investigations. once their investigationses are complete, then officer wilson, you, will either be indict d, and then of course removed from the police department. or he will not. officer wilson has to decide what the future holds for him. >> i'm asking about missouri residents who have threatened him, who have threatened his family. what message would you want to send to the people of ferguson and the people of missouri if he is, in fact, not indicted, and now or in the the federal case. >> there has been rushes to judgment on both sides of this
equation, joe. the rush to judgment by some o in the african-american community is in fact understandable. because there is racial disparities in terms of how people are treated. >> but i'm talking specifically about this man and his family who have had -- dollar prices placed on their heads by extremist organizations. will you just come out and say respect him and if he's acquitteded then stay the hell away from him and stay the hell away from his family? >> well, i think that's kind of obvious, joe. >> well, it's not obvious. because i keep asking you about this officer and his family, and i'm curious if he is acquitted, then does he get his life back? does his family get his life back? do they get their life back? >> of course they get their life back. of course, he should be protected and of course his life should not be threatened. there's absolutely no excuse for 350e people threatening violence in
this issue. i thought that was obvious. absolutely inappropriate if this officer is not indicted, he and his family should be safe and carry on with the rest of their life and people should respect that. >> okay, let's move onto national issues. i want to talk about two things. one keystone. but first immigration reform. i was fascinated by what you said the other day. you don't like the president's approach, but of course, republican obstructionism is not looking so good on this issue either. what's the mirdddle way? what's the missouri way? what's the way you would like to see congress and the president go on this issue? >> i think speaker boehner needs to be put under a lot more pressure. we passed a bill by two-thirds majority in the senate. people like lindsey graham and lamar alexander from tennessee and south carolina, voted for it, and they just got reelected. by double digits in deeply red states. so i'm trying to figure out why the republicans that supported comprehensive immigration
reform -- are not putting more pressure on their colleagues. it is one thing to shoot arrows at the white house. it's another thing to roll up your sleeves and get to work. we can get this done if speaker boehner would just allow the bill to come to the floor for debate, change it. amend it. put in your own bill. but do something. don't just make this about demonizing the president. >> thomas? >> so senator, the issue that's playing out in washington, d.c. right now is whether or not the president will use executive action. i know you were on cbs and face the nation over the weekend saying you were not crazy about this idea. the last time in this country we had a major immigration overhaul. we hat republican presidents and reagan that used an executive action to protect immigrants in this country. there wasn't that big of a backlash against a republican sitting president, two of them. why do you think there would be such a big backlash against a
democratic sitting president for executive action to protect immigrants? >> well, it's the times we live in, and it's also the fact that there's a great deal of frustration about the gridlock. and the president obviously has had a great deal of difficulty getting cooperation, consensus, compromise. there's a wing in the republican party that thinks any action in this regard is somehow a bad idea. even though we are losing in terms of competing with other countries for the best and the brightest who come to this country to get educated. we need to make it less complicated to legally immigrate. >> we you say you're not crazy about the idea but blame the republicans for not coming to consensus. why wouldn't you support the president to use executive action? >> well, i think it's awkward right now. i'm not crazy about it. i haven't made up my mind.
and he hasn't done it yet. but i think all of us know this is not the best way to do this. i would prefer we do it the old fashioned way. let's negotiate a compromise and pass a bill. and the refusal. the abject refusal of the republicans in the house to even take this up ought to be what we are all talking about. and i would prefer we talk about that and try to get movement there. because the american people don't support the game playing around the issue. they want us to get some work done on it. >> all right. senator claire mccaskill. always good to have you on the the show. fiery today. we appreciate everything you've talked about today. thank you very much. >> thank you so much. >> coming up, best selling author is still ahead. but first, brian sullivan has apreview. business before the bell is next on "morning joe."
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of dangerous artificial intelligence. i want your viewers and listeners to think killer robots. he wrote that in a blog. the blog post mysteriously disappeared. perhaps a robot made him do it. and jim crowe, 13 years. $325 million deal. biggest sports contract in the history of north carolina america. $152,000 per game. $17,000 per inning for 13 years. mom -- >> yeah, a couple of things really quickly, brian. first of all, i saw this elon musk article on mashable. it's really frightening. he said most people think 5 to 10 years before we have a major incident where, you know, artificial intelligence gets more intelligent than us and creates a possibility that he says could be worse than a
nuclear bomb. even those that take a more moderate view say we may be 20 years from this. it's frightening. i wonder who is out there actually protecting us. >> we're already there. elon musk is much smarter than i am. have you tried to call through and get somebody at an airline? the voice mail alone is the artificial intelligence he speaks of. >> mike barnacle, that's a little different than war games with a computer launching nuclear missiles because it's smarter than we are. speaking of lack of intelligence, this deal that miami just hatched. what economic -- what economic justification can there be for that kind of contract? >> it makes no economic sense for the marlins. it makes great sense for john carlos. it's a clown deal for the franchise. last year in the 2014 season, the total team payroll was $41 million. they will not win a thing. john carlos stanton that has a
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you know, this huge bank has been, you know, ripped off by sovie soviets, by russians. credit cards for half a billion people. >> yeah, these days i only have to be plausible. anything i where i is plausible and believable. i think that happens, actually. this is great fodder for thriller writers. >> excuse me. >> go for it. >> i was just going to ask you about the amazon deal finally being cut. how has that benefitted other writers, other than yourself. you don't need much help. you're well known, other writers just beginning, first books, how does it help? >> it helps. we need a thriving publishing industry. they're the ones who take chances on new writers. go out and publicize. send them to bookstores around
the country. we need amazon. they're a great partner for us. we need to work together. it's hard enough to sell books without people fighting each other. >> based on mike's question, we were talking in the break about smaller bookstores. mike likes to support those. and certain people love to support those, too. to see those thrive. and you believe in those. you think based on a foundational support of people who love to go out, buy books and support them. >> those little bookstores built my career early on. the tour will be all independent bookstores. they're the life blood. they're the ones in the trenches give getting people excited about books and writers. we have to support them. >> the book is "the escape." david baldacci, thank you so much. you can read an excerpt on our website. is that it? up next, what, if anything, did we learn today? thank you so much.
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they say giuliani cleaned the place up, but new yorkers still live with the looming threat of the ground. that's why they call it the mean streets. >> welcome back to "morning joe." it's time to talk about what we learned today. mika, what did you learn? >> not to friend people. i think. you got to figure it out. >> i'm going to help you block this guy. >> i learned last night on tylerclementi.org. it's their third event. donate for anti-bullying campaign. >> perfect. >> i learned our increasing inability to reform our tax code and deal with income inequality is getting me enormously depressed. >> okay. we're going to have to fix it. joe, did you learn anything today? >> i'm scared of computers. >> i am, too. the ai warning. i think people should read that on mashable. very concerning. but if it's way too early, mika, what time is it?
>> it's time for "morning joe." but up next we have "the rundown." have a good day. >> and good morning, i am jose diaz but first, a terror attack inside the holy city of jerusalem. it's exactly 4:00 p.m. and mourners are in the streets waiting for the victims. four are dead. three israeli americans. we're going to show you pictures of what happened. but i want to warn you, they are tough to look at. the attack occurred this morning inside a synagogue in the western part of the city. two men burst into the building armed with a meet cleaver and a gun, attacking people while they were praying. three were israeli-americans. the fourth was a british-american. several others were wounded. >> we came to pray this morning. we were coming into the synagogue, and we heard gunshots from
. thanks for joining us. big hand for the audience tonight. thank you for being with us we'll see you back here monday. have a great weekend. . that's it for this "special report," fair, balanced and unafraid. >> this is a fox news alert. "on the record" is tracking two major breaking news stories. tonight, new video showing isis savages hostage in iraq. terrorists warn there will be a another beheading and that one will be an american. ebola in america and there is fear it is spreading right now several americans under treatment in isolation. many more under quarantine. ebola impacting all corners of the u.s. tonight from washington, d.c., to texas, to georgia, and nebraska fox news team of reporters tracking reporters' every move across america. casey stegall live in dallas. that's where we start. casey? >> greta, good evening.
the latest news involves one of our own. in fact, a freelance journalist, a photographer that was working for nbc news that has now come down with the ebola virus. he caught it in liberia. that is where he has been working, covering this deadly virus outbreak for the network. and we understand this afternoon that health officials say that he will be transported now to the nebraska medical center in omaha, a fine facility as you all know that successfully treated an american doctor for ebola recently. meantime hazmat crews have been at the dallas apartment complex today where the liberian national who boarded a plane and brought the virus to the united states had been staying with family. the place has been scrubbed down while four members of thomas duncan's family remain quarantined inside. the company hired to do the clean up had to secure special permits to transport the hazardous waste that included the patient's bedding and his clothing. finally the cdc says out of the 100 people who have had
some sort of contact, either direct or indirect contact with patient zero as is he being called, since he arrived in texas, ten are considered high risk exposures. we understand that is likely his family and medical professionals, greta, who initially treated him before they knew he had ebola. >> casey, thank you. and wilfred smallwood is thomas duncan's half-brother and right now his 21-year-old son is quarantined in that dallas apartment. andrew spoke with wilfred smallwood in texas yesterday and he joins us live. good evening and tell me what did the half-brother say? >> he is optimistic and he is also a little bit scared because it is kind of a vacuum of information about what is happening with his half-brother. again, his name is wilfred smilewood and living in phoenix for nine years. he moved here from liberia nine years ago and brother
stayed behind in that country. they haven't seen each other in nine years. they keep in touch regularly. he spoke with the ebola patient just after he arrived here in the u.s. he told me that everything at the time seemed okay. as we now know after the ebola patient first went to that hospital in dallas, he was initially sent home. only to be diagnosed with ebola a few days later. well, the two haven't been able to talk since the half-brother was hospitalized in dallas. on top of all of that, the 212-year-old as you mentioned, greta, is hold up inside that dallas apartment. he was staying with relatives at that apartment where the ebola patient was staying. now he is quarantined in that apartment. he will be in there for at least another two weeks. his father told me his son is doing okay. he feels fine. however, he is not too happy about the hospital's treatment of his half-brother. very don't.
he talked to me. in the house here, okay. everything okay? have food. everything is okay. we are here. we are fine. >> i kept it right there. more investigation back home. man went home family. >> mr. smallwood tells me just spoke to his son this afternoon and things appeared to be getting better inside that dallas apartment. he told us the sheets and the towels that the ebola patient was using appeared to be being removed properly. everyone was optimistic and his son is not showing any symptoms of the virus. however, greta, is he frustrated that he did not get any information about his half-brother who is still in the hospital. >> okay, if mr. smallwood says that mr. duncan stayed behind for nine years, what suddenly made him come to texas? i mean, was there any discussion of leaving liberia because of the ebola
epidemic? >> we didn't get into why he left liberia. i don't think it was because of the ebola epidemic. what he told us is that his half-brother recently got a visa to come to the u.s. to be with his family. apparently he has some relatives in dallas. that's why he was going there. and he got the visa and he decided to come. i don't think it was necessarily related to the ebola outbreak. he had been trying to get a visa for a while. once he got it, he left pretty much as soon as he could to come here. his brother also tells us that he did not have any symptoms when he arrived here in the u.s. >> all right, andrew, thank you. maybe we ought to explore who is getting visas, that might be an effective way to try to monitor. this thank you, andrew. new possible case of ebola in the u.s. right down the street from where i am. a washington, d.c. hospital has a patient in isolation after seeing signs of the deadly virus. for the latest wtte fox reporter alex alexander lemone joins us. what you can tell us about the patient at alexander
university? >> there are actually now two possible cases in the d.c. area. one of those cases is being treated at howard university. the other, however, is being treated here at shady grove hospital in rockville, maryland. this is the latest possible ebola case we have learned about. this hospital tells us they have not yet confirmed if this is an ebola case but despite that that patient is in isolation because they have ebola-like symptoms and recently traveled to areas affected by ebola. so, likely somewhere in west africa. now, the other patient at howard university in d.c., that patient also has similar symptoms, also recently traveled to nigeria. and we have learned that that patient is actually a student who checked themselves into the hospital because they were feeling ill and howard university also says they are also keeping that patient under isolation as a precaution. both hospitals are waiting for test results to confirm whether or not these are
ebola cases. but they are concerned and being very cautious because of where both of these patients recently traveled to, greta. >> alexandra, thank you. and the experimental drug hopes to be the wonder drug z map. credited with the saving the lives of the first two americans who contracted the ebola. this is the problem, and it is a huge one, there is no more of it. so now what? professor eric alman with the research institute is part of the team that developed it. she was on the record. nice to see you again. >> nice to be here. >> you are the expert. how fast you can create more? and what's in the way? it can't be made overnight. it has to be yen to. this is the thing. sheets are research products. those research days. we have never seen ebola outbreak on this scale before. other diseases were higher priority last year. so, the teams that make the
antibodies vaccines are working as fast as they can to makes a much as they can and get to the people that need it. the people infected right now, the best course of action is to contain and control. to identify the cases and get them the proper medical treatment that they need. now, this is the major problem at this point. there is 50 new cases in sierra leone. those beds are full. more medical teams and more beds. the other things that are needed are more diagnostics. a lot of these viruses look the same. ebola start with a fever and headache. every one of us have had a fever and headache before. >> all right. >> there is another virus called lasa that is endemic in western africa. thousands of cases every year. endemic in the same places. a lot of these places people could be infected with lasa. diagnostic from one. mundane flu or malaria that
needs the highest level of isolation. there is a company called core genics that has one in 15 minutes and i have worked with it myself. >> i call it the wonder drug which probably makes you a little crazy that i say that because we are so desperate to have the a drug that does the trick. seven people have taken it so far two have died out of seven. pretty good odds. one of the biggest problems often is government regulation. they get in the way. are there any regulations that are getting in the way now in terms of you getting this to market faster? >> well, my expertise is i'm the molecular biologist that figures out how it works. the government regulatory agencies have working as fast as they can to move these things as fast as they can. i haven't seen this to be a big problem. but, you know, the doses have to be made. this is a research product and the human doses just simply weren't available and that gave away everything they had.
more is in production and they are working as hard as they can on that. >> all right. if you started today, for one dose, how soon could you make that? >> i don't know this really isn't my expertise. the focus needs to be letting the people who do that manufacturing as fast as they can. focus on getting the teams in the care and the beds to the patients. to developing faster diagnostics so we can tell somebody who has flu from somebody who has ebola. >> all right. thank you very much for joining us. and you understand that i just have sort of a sense of desperation. i understand -- >> -- we all do. >> i know you do too. you know a lot more about it than i do. so, anyway. professor, thanks for joining us. >> thank you for having me. this is a fox news alert. isis releasing a vicious new video showing the beheading of a second british hostage and warning an american captive will be next. fox news chief intelligence
correspondent catherine herridge joins us. horrible news. >> it is. i have taken a look at the video. it's somewhat shorter than the previous execution videos that runs about 1 minute and 40 seconds. a similar format. this one begins with the british parliament approving the joining of the u.s. led collision with the air strikes. then it goes to that very familiar shot you see there on the screen with the hostage and then the executioner. >> this seems to be a direct response to the british parliament vote? >> correct. this is what is important in these videos, time stamped very specific references supposed to communicate we are responding to you. we are responding in realtime to your action. this is the warning to you. not that this is ancient history but they are moving in a very expeditious way. >> the american, that's next. what you can tell me about him or her? >> what i would say about these videos is this group is really going down the same track we saw with al
qaeda. they don't put up false videos of executions or of identifying their victims. and they identify the american in this video as someone called peter and based on our research, he is former military, former army ranger and he had left the military medically discharged honorably and began the syrian assistance group when he was kidnapped in october of last year. until now the family has remained silent thinking it would help its case. >> any idea how many americans would be held. >> that's a great question. the ball park i always worked in based on my reporting has been about half a dozen. two as you know have been executed and now there is the threat of a third. the one that i think may be the most highly prized of the group, if you can put it in those terms is this woman from california about 24, 25, 26 years old. >> of course in case anyone has any doubt about islamic extremist, boko haram also
executed nigerian pilot announced today. anyway, thank you. >> you are welcome. >> now an absolutely terrifying warning from military families. isis now using social media urging their supporters to go to military homes and slaughter the families in them. congressman peter king joins us. good evening, sir. >> good evening, greta. how are you? >> very well. i guess we can't expect anything more from these savages than something like this. but this certainly does create, you know, more alarm here in the united states tonight. >> it really does it shows that isis is just focused on whether it's beheading people. weather it's threatening to slaughter american families of service is men and women. this is an evil, evil organization which in the past even terrorist organizations have tried to appeal to people, to show that there is a certain goodness about them. in this case isis wants everyone to know they are evil. they decided to go the route of terrifying everyone. >> and usually think of war as sort of soldier on soldier. here they actually want to go after the military
families. of course, we have seen with the beheading that the justification for tonight's beheading is because of the british parliament vote. this group will stop at absolutely nothing. what are we doing to alert or prepare our military families? >> first of all, the military has to be on guard. they have been notified by the pentagon that they should be -- for instance have their eyes only all the time. be aware of everything. don't list any phone numbers, addresses, email addresses. don't give any indication about their family, their family members. they should not really put anything out there whether it's on facebook or anywhere on the social media themselves or even in old fashioned telephone directories. nothing about them that the enemy could find. in effect, it's almost like being under cover. you know, they are in, i hate to say almost like a witness protection program that these families have to try to put themselves into to, you know, protect themselves from this type of attack. especially if they are families that are overseas. remember, these don't have to be families close to the
firing line, which they wouldn't be. but anyone who can you identified as a member of the military family has to be on the lookout. >> all right. you arennen the counter terrorism subcommittee. that what is your assess isment of the president's strategy and how is he doing? >> i support it as far as it goes. i mean, obviously the air attacks were essential. i think we need more massive air attacks and they should have begun sooner. now that we have started them they have to be massive. we have to realize even though we have a coalition quote unquote. the fact is the u.s. is going to do the overwhelming amount of the fighting. for this to be effective the president should not be ruling anything out. he should not be saying there is no american boots on the ground. >> he has said that he has told them that, no boots on the ground. >> and wrong. wrong to say that he should stop saying it. and he should let the enemy think that we're willing to do everything and anything. we are willing to stay there 100 years if we have to. willing to use every weapon at our disposal ifjust may deciy
or slow it down. and the fact that he keeps talking about what he is not going to do, one thing that does he alert the enemy but also causes potential allies to wonder just how serious he is. >> congressman can, nice to see you, sir. >> thank you, greta. thank you very much. >> thank you, sir. and american boots on the ground, well, fighting isis, well, that's right. an army veteran from wisconsin apparently joining the kurds in their battle against isis. not the only american. fox news confirming the kurdish government getting calls from navy seals, army rangers and marines, all volunteering to come join the fight. sergeant johnny jones joins us. nice to see you, sir. >> good evening, greta. sergeant, what do you think about this? a man from wisconsin has already gone over age 28. he was fighting the kurdish people. >> well, you know, i read the army times article. it was very brief. not a lot of detail and spent one year in the army. you can't car him a war veteran. is he is obviously a veteran of the army. has my respect. but, in my opinion, nothing
good can come from veterans or reservists or any american trying to go there. and fight alongside the kurds without our government or military sending them there. >> well, sergeant thrrkts certainly are a lot of people who are quite enraged and understandably so. you see these videos and read these stories about isis taking over these kurdish towns on the border and stuff. you know, i understand it but it does seem like it would lend itself to a lot of chaos. >> well, exactly. you know, you see everything from a marine jailed down in mexico and seems like we are doing nothing to help him out. and you have these towns and cities in iraq taken over after so many of our brothers and sisters died to take them for the peaceful there. at the end of the day. for an active duty service member to deploy, there is a training package. there is intelligence necessary we don't go over there and point a gun and pull a trigger. we are diplomats. we do nation building. we knock on doors and help people out. we empower the innocent
people to take over their area from the bad people. we're not just there pulling triggers and kill people. if we are going to do an air strike. we need intelligence so we are striking the right place and doing the right thing. if we can't coordinate that without some type of physical presence then what can one or two or three wrap bows do seas fighting alongside curetedz? in my mind not a lot. except bring in the opportunity for isis to kidnap someone. my condolences go out to those who have been kidnapped and have been executed. i see nothing but bad news from something like this. >> certainly seems like a death wish to go over by yourself to sort of align yourself with any group at this point it. >> absolutely. you know, if this authority authority-o-story is true. i hope it he makes it back safe and our government does more in the physical war and propaganda to let our enemies know we will come after them and destroy them.
as far as what's going on in iraq and syria with ice is sis. we created a vacuum there and up to us to make sure we finish that job and allow those innocent people to take control of lives country. >> thank you sergeant jones. >> thank you. >> did vice president biden say terrorism is not a threat to the u.s.? you are going to hear directly from the vice president. and then former u.s. ambassador to the u.n. john bolton is standing by to go "on the record." also new developments right now in the disappearance of university of virginia co-ed hannah graham. "on the record" takes to you charlottesville just moments away. plus, now it's senator john mccain's turn. he is making a big modify to try to free our u.s. marine jailed in mexico. what is senator mccain doing? that's straight ahead.
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people worried about the terrorist threat making and that's losing perspective. you don't want to overstate the threat but you don't want to understate it. what he is saying is just simply wrong. number one, it's premature.
today is terrorism and existential threat? not yet, but the whole point is we are worried that as it metastasizes, as it gets nuclear weapons it will become existential threat. >> i agree the whole alarmist thing is bad. i worry are we properly warning people or scaring people unnecessarily. i don't know which. the lack of sort of addressing what was going on in syria because we felt quite comfortable. now brings us or the president did, rather, now brings us to where we are where it is metastasized cancer. it's got a lot bigger and trying to give it chemotherapy and it's a little lavment. >> given the administration's lack of credibility on its diagnosis of what the problem is, it's a huge mistake for biden to be saying don't worry there is no existential threat. nuclear weapons are an existential threat. chemical and biological weapons can be existential threat. people think that the only existential threat was the kind of exchange of nuclear salvos we might have had with the soviets with the
cold war where civilization ends that's existential. imagine a terrorist state with five nuclear weapons detonated over five key american cities, you don't think that would end the effective existence of america as we know it i think you need to think again. >> what he said to 60 minutes he made very serious threat the other night. the other thing the other night with all these beheadings and knowing an american is next. it's hard for me to say it's not existential threat. it really is for some families tonight. >> it's certainly the kind of threat that we need to take seriously. and when you observe as biden does more likely to be hit by a meteorite than a terrorist that is true. that was true about pearl harbor, too. it doesn't make the threat any less real. it is inconceivable to me why an administration whose credibility has been so shredded by reality that somebody like joe biden,
who's to be the next president would say something like that. >> he should have said nothing about it. >> everything we can to make sure it doesn't become an existential threat. >> indeed. ambassador, thank you, sir. >> and "on the record" has been covering new information of missing co-ed hannah graham mystery. uva student vanishing three weeks ago. ted williams is on the case. he is "on the record" next. also, people beaten and bloodied on the streets of hong kong. take a look at this. we have new video coming into fox right now ♪ want to change the world? create things that help people. design safer cars. faster computers. smarter grids and smarter phones. think up new ways to produce energy. ♪ be an engineer. solve problems the world needs solved. what are you waiting for? changing the world is part of the job description. [ male announcer ] join the scientists and engineers of exxonmobil in inspiring america's future engineers. energy lives here.
developing now the search is wydening for missing uva student hannah graham. disappearing for thatly three weeks ago. shocking information from four other cases that may link to the key suspect in hannah's disappearance. jest jesse matthew is the suspect. griff jenkins and ted williams are on the ground in charlottesville investigating. >> three weeks ago, university of virginia student hannah graham mysteriously vanishing. and for charlottesville, virginia, her story is anything but unusual five women in the last five years have gone missing here in the charlottesville area. if i'm investigating this, got to look into it. got to see if there is any connection. >> police have established a link between hannah and morgan harrington who, on october 17th, 2009, disappeared soon after leaving this charlottesville
arena. >> she took off and started walking away from here alone. >> morgan heads down the street, crossing this fateful bridge. >> she was hitchhiking. and in hitchhiking that means one thing, she was trying to get a ride from one location to another. >> and that's where jesse matthew may come in. >> maybe she entered a cab and one thing we know is that jesse matthew was a cab driver. >> just a month after morgan's disappearance, police find her t-shirt in these bushes. a break in the case that forensic experts may be able to use to link morgan with jesse matthew. >> that is gold to a law enforcement officer. >> of course, morgan and hannah are not alone. sandra martin in lynchburg, which is about an hour's drive down route 29 went also missing. her remains were found. the crime has been unresolved. >> but what's matthew's
connection? >> jesse matthew attended liberty university in lynchberg. >> and it doesn't stop there. >> griff, there is a fourth woman missing. samantha ann clark lived in virginia about 30 minutes away from here went missing in september 2010. that is also an unresolved murder. >> in november of 2012, another unresolved disappearance in november 2012 a transgender went missing in this neighborhood. this is another thing, another case that law enforcement will be looking at when they look at jesse matthew. >> the question is: will police be able connect the dots? >> charlottesville definitely has a problem with missing girls, and someone is trying in law
enforcement to try to connect the dots, to try to to determine do you have a serial killer or these isolated incidents of missing girls. former homicide detective ted williams joins us. talk about police connecting the dots. if you have five disappearance in the same area. why does it take to the fifth one before you try to figure out maybe they are the same maybe if they had done it earlier we wouldn't have gotten up to five. >> you have got something there. i cannot understand for the life of me. one of the reasons that they may be jesse matthew did not have from what we understand a felony record. so therefore, his d.n.a. was not on file i do know
aggressive investigation. maybe that would have led to jesse matthews. fifth one. >> hannah graham is getting a lot of attention. morgan harrington, when she went missing in 2009, she had also been given a lot of attention. but what when you must understand when you look at jesse matthews are two things. motive and opportunity motive we know christian newport university was sexual assault. lynchberg assault. motive, opportunity. he was a cab driver. >> also got -- schools, liberty you mentioned one, liberty university, uva, virginia tech, all these colleges, you know, in virginia. and i mean you would think that some detective would have thought why are so many women disappearing all these universities? and why wasn't there -- i
mean, i know these aren't always easy to solve. about when we get up to five, i wouldn't want to be the one talking to the brown family if i worked for the police department. >> you have got to understand what law enforcement now, they are not looking so much in hindsight as they are looking for a break. certainly like to know is forensics concerning jesse matthew automobile. has that come back? can they come back. hannah graham with that automobile. >> he is in custody. so now they have d.n.a. from him presumably, right? >> university of missing women is five in the area? that's all they have? i am sure that they are looking not only that area but beyond that area, remember there was a one in fairfax county that was alleged to have been assaulted. >> he was a cab driver and we don't know if he went beyond. anyway, maybe he is not even the one who did it.
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former secretary of defense and director leon panetta slamming president obama for handling of iraq. vice president biden returning the punch slamming the director.
vice president biden slamming panetta for writing inappropriate books on the obama administration. washington examiner susan father rich choo, jackie and laughed i wrote kaboom. what biden did was kaboom. went after panetta but also referring to secretary clinton. what's the problem? >> you see this certain administrations fairly often at this point in the administration. remember when condoleezza rice went after richard clark for which he wrote about iraq during the bush administration. i think biden has a reason to defend obama, obviously. and to go after hillary and i think that might be a little bit about 2016. >> any problem writing a book while the president is still sitting in office. he didn't complain about the content he complained about the timing. >> you have to remember that this is personal for him too because robert gibbs in his book vice president biden being wrong. robert gates yes on every foreign major policy
decision for how many years. >> that wasn't panetta or clinton. >> right. >> he was part of that group. that was like their lunch table dogs there need to be a bile on right now. at war. do we need to be hearing more folks president obama especially former and administration officials. i think that's what he was getting at. >> i see a common theme here because in gates' book he says that both clinton and panetta, all three were upset that the president kept such tight reign over national security didn't let them in over the division. making decisions around them. during his tenure and putting a distance between themselves and the president. so i think this is just, you know, it's unusual, bush's staff did not write books until they were out of office both of them at the earliest. i think this is a pattern about people being really upset with the way he ran --
he has run national security. >> also a touch of don't blame me. what hillary clinton said in her book is she said that obama that she had pressed obama to arm the syrian mod democrats. he wouldn't with, now look at the mess we are in. don't blame me. >> she may run for president, too. >> panetta was critical of obama saying he shouldn't have withdrawn all the forces from iraq. don't blame me basically because they say. >> they are all saying he didn't let them in on these decisions that he kept them at a distance. three of them together said that. >> distance he made the wrong decision, they say. >> it is worth noting though that panetta and the collins are very close personally. >> factor here, i think, too. is that clinton she has got to distance herself clearly if she she runs for president which she is poised to do. >> the timing this is a time when president obama is making very serious decisions, you know, in the middle east, dealing with the new crisis just about every day. so, do we need more voices out there? >> you know, my theory on
the panetta book it isn't out yet. i think this is all the publishers that they put all the red meat out for everyone to get upset about. the book may be 500 pages, 499 saying president obama is is the greatest president ever. say they leaked this bad thing and get everybody fired up and fire up the vice president and everybody else. >> that was hillary's book, too. marketing the publisher. >> is bryden running 2016? i say he gets out of the way if clinton decides to run. >> i think he toys with it until the very last minute. >> i just don't see it he is not taken seriously. there is no donors out there. they are all locked up. where is his operation? it's just not there. >> that's true. i think he is there in case she says no. >> i'm not convinced that hillary clinton is going to run. >> i'm not either. >> she is do everything she wants to do in terms of the clinton global initiative. >> would the party be mad at her? >> i don't know. who knows. anyway, it's not going to be
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now to or "on the record" investigation big government destroying small businesses. tonight we will take to you a small surf shop where increasing government rules and regulations are wiping out the business, literally. griff jenkins reports from ocean city, maryland. >> surf's up in ocean city, maryland. for one surfer's small business the surf isn't the only thing that's up. >> just got our health insurance renewals and it went up 41%. 41%. >> mark pew founded the
caicos surf shop 25 years ago and for him and his 10 full-time employees health insurance premiums are are hitting him like a tidal wave. >> 22-year-old guy paying over $300 a month for $2,000 deductible plan. and it's gone up 41.07% from last year. i really don't know what we're going to do. not a lot of these smaller companies offer healthcare and we have chosen to and now, unfortunately, it is getting unaffordable for us to do. >> skyrocketing healthcare cost isn't the only problem. >> got the one-two punch on me. i have got increasing healthcare premiums, doubled up the state of maryland has just increased the minimum wage. it's going to eventually get up to $10.10 an hour. >> most of pew's standoff makes more than minimum wage anyways. since summer is the busy center caicos brings in an additional 40 temporary employees, mostly teenagers
who make less than $10 an hour. >> most of our staff is 17, 18-year-old, 16-year-old kids. you know, they're not trying to raise a family on minimum wage. i can't pay 10 bucks an hour to a 16-year-old kid. from a higher price for summer employees means just one thing for mark. >> i'm going to have to cut six employees to keep our labor costs the same. >> for caicos surf shop a rising tide isn't enough to wash away rising healthcare costs in a a minimum wage increase. >> i would love to hire more people but we can't. the math just doesn't work. >> the caicos surf shop has been in business for 25 years. now its owners worry if they will be able to keep the doors open for another 25. let's all go off-the-record for main. here is a challenge we face here "on the record" on any very serious issue. and there are many weave have to report what to
report, how much and how. take, for instance, ebola. it's here and it can dill kill you. the odds are against you if you get ebola. ebola is highly contagious and, admit it, who wants to to sit next to someone on a plane or a bus who has symptoms or being the healthcare worker at the emergency room who checks in the symptomatic person. so how should we report about ebola? on the other hand we don't on the one hand we don't want to set off panic that is irresponsible. on the other hand if we don't alert to you a real health crisis that can kill you that is likewise irresponsible. also want to keep up the pressure on a serious matter so that our leaders don't put it on the back burner afternoon not give it the urgent attention it needs. so the questions remain, how much, how should we do it and how should we make those decisions? what should we consider? so you tell me. you go to gretawire.com and give me your best advice how we should make these decisions. that's my off-the-record comment tonight. coming up, protesters lashing on hong kong. you won't believe this
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protecting demonstrators spurring the activists to call off talks with the government in hopes of relieving the country's political crisis. and to new jersey where justice can wait for reality tv. former jersey shore star mike the situationer is teen know. arranging a three week delay of arraignment hearing on federal charges of conspiracy and tax fraud so he can film another reality show. now the situation pleaded not guilty last week for failure to pay taxes on nearly $9 billion in income. senator john mccain jumping into the fight to free our marine held in mexico. senator mccain firing off a letter to mexico's president expressing concern over sergeant andrew tahmooressi's detainment saying he believes u.s. marine made an honest mistake it. the senator urging the mexican government to examine the facts of the case and allow sergeant tahmooressi to return home thanks for being with us, see you monday night right here 7:00 p.m. eastern. if you can't watch live, use your dvr. we have something brand new fox news go on the fox news
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the freshman orientation going on. that's going to do it for "way too early." "morning joe" starts right now. now. >> president obama find himself in beijing for apec. the asia pacific comiskey corporation, summit conference dedicated to promoting what are you, nice, spell out apec? are you kidding meeconomimeecony good fireworks.
>> okay. gentleman, close the newspaper. it's wednesday, november 12th, 2014. kim kardashian apparently naked again. how surprising. with us on set, we have we have a staff writer with the hill, good to have you all on board. in a sort of clean-up time on capitol hill, as democrats and republicans are trying to stem the bleeding from their own gaffes and it's a turn that michael kinsly defined as when someone in washington gets caught telling the truth them obamacare story which i saw yesterday and i'm surprised it didn't emerge. today the most serious of gaffes
came from jonathan gruber, a man described by many as the architect of obamacare. he was speaking at the university of p. last year when he said the lack of transparency in the law was instrumental in getting it in the past because of the quote stupidity of the american voter. >> jesus. >> a lack of transparency a a huge political advantage. calm at this time stupidity of the american voter, whatever, basically, that was critical to the past. it's the second best argument. i'd rather have this law than not. it's kind of like the reporter story the things i can change but rather have this law than not. >> i don't think you say that, that mate be a problem. >> the problem is that he thinks it. >> the core problem under law was put together by a bunch of elitists two don't fundamentally understand the american people. that's what the problem is. >> yesterday, so now we are
covering it. the professor apologized. take a look. >> the comments in the video were made at an economic conference. i basically spoke inappropriately. public poilts that involves spending is politically less palatable than policies for the tax code. it would have made more sense to do obamacare the way we do in wis swiss to give people money, that was politically feasible. instead, it was done through the tax code. that was the only point i was making. >> an interesting dynamic. we are trying to get to it. nobody covered it. except for some right wing, but had this been a republican economic what down would have happened? >> well, he is, this century is defined, david stockman, who is ronald reagan's original budget director, in 1981 in an extensive magazine piece in the
old atlantic magazine by bill ryder, a former walk post editor, david stockman sat down with him. he was reagan's budget director, sat down for many, many times, explained the budget. he said, bakeally, none of us really understands what any of these numbers are about, the federal budget. >> let me guess, nobody felt this right? >> president reagan had no idea what those numbers were about. >> a few left wing bloggers brought it up. it wasn't covered economic i believe there was a huge firestorm, exactly, that's my point. >> david stockman was the director of the office of management and budget. this guy is a consultant. so it's a slightly different -- >> well, he's one of the architects, is he not economic you can't define him as an arc next obamacare? >> he did play a significant role as a consultant. but he's the consultant not the architect. >> if he's saying that out loud, that's a reflection of the group.
>> i agree. i agree. if you are ronald reagan's office of management and budget director, you have direct access to the president. this guy probably had stomach says to the president. but my guess is for the most part he didn't so i'm not excuseing the language. it's terrible. it does. it's how we got this bill, which is very complicated. >> it's bad. we have to look at how we cover things on each side of the aisle. elise, what's your take what did you find? >> i think we have to remember the fancy pelosi comment that makes this comment more on the republican side. she said we have to pass this bill to see what's in it. i think that that has continued to echo through campaign astd, through the debate over the law four, five years out. again, this makes republicans extra sex e sensitive to the idea that he can heck reform was
concob by democrats in a room in a kind of a conspiratorial way. i'm not saying that is what happened. i'm saying that is what republicans say happened him i think that is an impression that is very difficult for democrats due to these comments. they need to be much more careful. clearly, there was a much more open process than a lot of republicans believe. anybody who was covering the formulation of the bill over months and months can tell you that the pieces were reported on. they were worked out. republicans might not think they had enough input, but these comments are very damaging. they continue to contribute to this idea that obamacare was hatched in a dark room and that it was a conspiracy. >> how, howard? >> first of all, for reasons that the republicans didn't have input is they didn't want any input. they attacked this bill from day one. for them not to complain, the health care bill, all tamp trying to do is sab tanl sit a bit much. sec of all, i think we have
about as much mile annual out of obamacare as we can. it is the law. there were plenty of things i didn't like in the bill. we can go through them if you want, because i always like to do that. but it is the law and it's worked and i don't think if we're trying this in anyway into the debacle last week that it had much to do with it. i think this is basically boating a dead horse. >> okay. so while we're on gas on the republican side, former governor hayley barber says he's sorry for calling president obama's policies tar babies. >> oh, come on. >> on a post-election conference calm. >> how do you do that? >> barber, who once chaired the rnc, tells politico, quote, if someone takes offense, i will regret it. again, neither the context nor the connotation was intended to offend. if you are less than moved by its apology, you may be even less impressed by harlem
congressman carley rangel. he is trying to explain why he called tea party republicans white crackers. oh my god, it's like, we're not the onion. we swear. this is true. in an interview, the long-time congressman now says he thought white crackers was a term of endearment. >> no. >> who are these people? >> this must be the air pollution or something that's coming over from by a jenning affecting people's brains. unbelievable. >> before comparing tea party republicans to jim crowe segregation -- what, what, i'm going to go. >> it's an initial comment. it's also an explanation. i thought that was -- >> i thought that was a gape in the story. >> wow. matt, lewis, let's get you in on
this conversation, if you want to be in on this conversation. those last two were ugly comments, the first one talking about obamacare has more impatience for what's happening in the country bus of the law that's passed. what is your reaction from gruber? . >> obviously, it's a horrible thing that he said him i think it's a gaffe precisely because he's telling the truth. whether it was president obama's promise if you leak your doctor, can you keep it. if you like your insurance plan, you can keep it. whether it was the sort of behind the scenes, corn husker kickback t. way this bill was sort of pushed through, you know, one party pushed it through. it's been really ugly him that's the end. now we certainly have an skags that the american public was misled. if they knew what was in this bill, they probably wouldn't have supported it. i have to say, as damaging as the scandal is. i think more importantly it's something else that gruber said,
which is that, you know, he knew in advance that states who didn't sort of, you know, create their own exchange wouldn't be eligible for these tax subsidies and that, in fact, is a big question that's not only scandalous but relevant as we enter into a supreme court decision, which could potentially damage obamacare. so i think grouber, you know, there is the gaffe, the more politically toxic gaffe and the slightly substantive gaffe that i think will be with us for a lot longer. >> all right. let move on. let move on, wisconsin governor scott walker is pushing ahead with a controversial plan to drug test recipients of public assistance. the proposal would apply to people receiving unemployment benefits and food stamps. a spokes woman for the governor says he would spend the next several e several weeks working with a cabinet to create a proposal. this year alabama and missouri pass bills that allow drug tests
if an applicant was suspected of using drugs. in 2010, 12 states failed to pass those calling for suspicionless drug testing just across the board. wisconsin is one of five states that currently perform drug tests on public assistance applicant that have felony drul convictions. howard, actually, you are perfect for this. what down of the concept economic i guess there is possibly proof it's unconstitutional and yet. >> there is anderson, this is the gop not content with waging a war on women. they're now waging a war on poor people. >> are they? >> absolutely. >> why? >> because they're singleing people. are you getting unemployment, that means you were working, if you lost youroyou are a suspect for using drugs. >> why are you using drugs, why can't you be told to go get treatment? >> we just get a drug test economic some of the police are
entitled to grab us off the street and take us into the -- >> for the sake of argument, let me ask you, if you are going to be receiving money from the government, isn't it okay to say we will give you money or support you. >> okay. so let's tax everybody on wall street. >> if you are breaking the law. >> let's do drug tests down here 15 blocks away on wall street. that's government money, too, what the hell is going on here economic you can't take citizens who pay taxes, then they become unfortunate, they lose theironow you will test them for drugs. it's on poor people. scott walker is too immature to be a governor. >> matt lewis. >> i do understand what governor doan is saying. it does sort of the libertarian in me is a little concerned, once government as we say increasingly are in all of our live, all of a sudden there are expectations you would have to
comply. having said that, if the citizens of wisconsin decide that this is appropriate, i think we should, you know, i'm not financial to throw it out. look, it's their money. it's not the government's money, it's coming from the taxpayers. so i'm a little bit conflicted on this. but i don't think it's like an old wellian thing we are making it out to be either. >> there is a fundamental misunderstanding of what it means to be poor in this country. i think the fundamental misunderstanding of this concept is how too many people in various state legislatures, nobody elections to be poor. nobody has a child and says i hope this child grows up to be poor. >> i totally agree with you. >> why don't we drug test the members of each and every legislature. >> that's a great idea. >> before they vote on these dock a maim my bills. if you are an insurance company, you are looking for a break from the legislature.
>> maybe we can vote for walker so all the legislature and the government gets scheduled. aren't they on welfare economic they're getting taxpayer's money and they're doing nothing, right? >> hmm. scott walker, meanwhile, one of two presidential contenders drawing attention to hillary clinton's age. while speaking about the former secretary of state, i know, senator rand paul said, quote, it's a very tax, undertaking to go through. it's a rigorous physical ordeal, i think, to be able to campaign for the presidency. well, you know, i think she would know, right. governor walker said over the weekend that clinton, who is 67, quote, embodies that old, tired top down approach from the government. not everyone is kounding the years. a recent puig survey 15 to 13-year-olds think hillary; 59 or younger. 25% correctly identified her
age. demographics show voters in 2016 will be just as young and diverse as they were in 2012. elise, what do you think? >> i think those younger voters will go for hillary by some margin because they will be excited about eelecting the first woman president. i don't think her age is going to be a major issue except when republicans try to make it an issue. we already seen the campaign committees go after this, even prior to the mid-term election, they laying the groundwork for the attacks. there are no doubt people older tan hillary clinton that will hold that job. >> lit so backfire, if they do that. nobody likes it when people do that. >> let me just say i think a couple things. if you look at those two statements, they're inadvertently calling a roll. i seen people like mike mccurie and tina brown have made similar folks, does she really want this
at this point in her life, she's got grandkids. i think the age thing is relevant. i think she can overcome it. it was relevant when walter mon dale brought that up and reagan hit that out of the park. she can show she is up to it. she runs a vigorous campaign. she doesn't sort of run the sort of inevitable rose garden campaign. by the way, it's the fact that she's been in the public eye for more than two decades. >> that would be called experience. >> i think that makes her more ready. >> come on. >> the interesting thing about this is we rarely go back a generation. the only time in my lifetime we've gone back is from carter to reagan. otherwise, you turn the page on a generation, you don't go back. this time i think we will. i think the republicans are likely to nominate somebody like scott walker and rand paul. the public will be scared these
wet behind the people did their job. >> they already did that, this past time. so hillary clinton is in the perfect pocket. anybody that wants to make fun of her age will laugh her out of the room. >> you attack people personally. >> a woman. by the way, you guys, women live longer, right, we all know this, sorry, guys. >> i can't believe we are talking about this. >> yeah, we will go. >> we will bring it up again. >> it's great to have you on. thank you so much. a great job on your reporting him still ahead on ""morning joe,"" senator elect tom tillis will join us in our next hour. actress angelica huston and stephen king will be with us on set. this time a streaming musk company is striking back against the pop star. did you hear about this accounts a brazen armed robbery in brazen
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joining us now for the must read opinion pages, john meacham, hello there. >> that was said with such affection. >> yeah, it was. >> how long will you stay here. >> we have a new york post picture to show you. >> okay. are you gone in ten minutes. okay. dana mill banks writes in the
washington post obama's adviser is too easy on him. white house correspondent asked dennis mcdonnough to say one thing to american voters, they will seem stiffer given the message they sent on tuesday. mcdonagh's reply, they will see washington working better if this president has his way. his willful cluelessness is the latest evidence that obama urgently needs new blood in his white house. the place is full of talent. what's missing, though, a political peer of the presidents, one with the stature and the authority to tell him when he's screwing up, without that, obama has an aforemention. >> isn't that the case for the president, they reach a certain point, there aren't any people left who will tell him no? >> they usually reach that point about 1:15 on inauguration day. >> exactly.
>> self aware presidents tell you they know when people come to the oval office, they're come income there the truth with the bark off. they come in there like george w. bush said what a lovely town, mr. president. what you want to do, you have to make this as comfortable as possible for them to do it. it's really hard. but the great ones do it. i do think that president obama two years here not a lot of time and does have to work on getting candid advice coming up. ron fornier, republicans didn't when the mid-terms. they lost less, interesting. neither party is capable at the moment of winning elect, only loseing less than the other guys. looking ahead to 2016, they seek to disrupt orthodox. but their mission may be impossible from inside the
parties, the senate and washington. they have lost all trust in institutions, which is why last week's results were less a victory than a warning. do you agree? >> look, maybe i would have given republicans a week to celebrate and be happy. but ron jumped right into it. look, i think, fundamentally, he's right. republicans didn't really have a mandate. this was a rejection of obama and his policy, as he said, his policies were on the ballot. but that doesn't mean that the public has bought into, you know, conservative ideas and i think republicans have a long way to go. they should see this as an opportunity of compelling conservative philosophy, an alternative to obama. hopefully, that will happen organically as we head into the 2016 campaign him i might have waited a little longer to rain on their parade. i think ron is generally right.
>> i think that's true, ideally. one problem they have is if you are going to craft a truly coherent national message, you need a voice doing that, a personally around him that can coalesce. as one of the pieces made clear there morning. the party has a diversity of youth. if you have rick santorum to rand paul. >> it's kind of interesting. howard dean, you are ready for hillary? >> no, i'm not. i'm supporting hillary. >> oh, no, no, no. but you are for hillary clinton for president. >> i am. >> what is your concept? >>. >> the banks are too big. they're endangering the financial status of the country and the world. >> is there anything she is saying that is kind of frin himmy or is it all right on given you have insight? >> i think she gets painted as a
fringy person, if you listen to her, she's not. she says this stuff cold. she says things people on wall street and walk don't want to hear. she is speaking truth to the power a lot of the time. >> if you are elizabeth warren, why not run for president? i know the relationship with hillary clinton this idea of freezing the field, it leaves a big taste in people's mouths. >> that's a concoction of the press. >> you don't think the field is frozen by hillary clinton by seeing what she does? >> it's frozen by people afraid to get in there. you can't blame hillary for freezing the field some my view is it's going to be a primary. it's the most important office of the world. of course, it's going to be a primary. let's see who is in it. i think the debate would be good for everybody. >> who would be in it? >> martin o'malley. maybe bernie sanders. i don't know, it will be an important discussion. >> those are hardly. really. bernie sanders is a socialist
and martin o'malley was just handed a stunning defeat in maryland. i think he's at least -- it's hardly a mandate from o'malley to run for president based on what just happened in maryland. these are really not -- i think elizabeth warren would provide the energy, a real contrast with hillary clinton. >> i think are you a little hard on martin. he wasn't on the ballot. the democrats got their rear ends kicked pretty much all over the country. so i don't think that makes him less worthy candidate, but you know i agree there are lots of people who couldn't run. she's in her first term. that's a hard thing to do. it's a rocky road. i think the president, it was in his first term. he knows what that rocky road is about now. >> you wonder a bit about having discipline in terms of your timing. but at the same time. there were a lot of people that want her to jump in. >> two people who have become president in the last 20 years
did not have discipline about their time. >> right. >> bill clinton and barak obama. you jump to the head of the line. >> right. >> and everyone is saying. >> it's the seven dwarfs in the 1992 primary. >> who makes it an uneasy primary for hillary clinton? >> gee thanks. >> she says to the pulitzer prize winning author. >> everybody gets a complimentary copy of the new york post today. all right. still ahead. >> i turned mine down. >> exactly. thank you. still ahead, a 35 year u.s. army vet takes us inside the wars in iraq and afghanistan and why he said our mission in those two countries fell short. but first, welcome to the age of
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. >> the flying delaurean in the "back to the future" series, time machines of course, have failed to get off the ground along with attempted innovations. those failures are the focus of this week's issue of the new york times magazine. titled welcome to failure age and adam is joining us now and souvendz so sad and pathetic. at the same, there might be some hope that comes out of failure? >> i'm trying to celebrate failure. >> i do that every day. >> my bake argument is we are coming out of the 20th century where the core economic logic was commoditytization. a whole bunch of innovations and 50, 60, 70 years of making the same things faster, better, it
ratively. >> that created a fear of failure, a commoditised economy that gave us protection and structure and stability. but that's over now. so we need to come up with new ideas, you will fail many, many times rather than -- >> what are some good examples? the greatest failures of this time in. >> the greatest failures of this time, you know, when you think about the 20th century, we all node the ed sell. if i say 20th century failure, everyone's mind goes to the edsel. it was so rare for a new project to be designed and the vast majority don't succeed. obviously, silicon valley is an ecosystem entirely built on learning again and failing. if you you a ply for a job and don't have a failure, are you seen as a stop light.
>> what role of the life span, you create something, a map, it will help you improve your life, something new will replace it. >> that's a big part of the essay i wrote. you look at stone axis, human things had stone axis for 200,000 years, if you find agent sumaria, it's roughly the same thing in new england. in the 20th century it's now a decade or so, a new blender or a fridge comes out. we all have that one boxy phone that you know was invented in 1936 and was still being sold in 1934. >> it's a new one. >> he has four. >> exactly. obviously trkt failure cycle is down to months. >> it seems, adam, too, if you are working at a big company,
it's good with the right answer. if you are an individual working at that company, are you the one that failed, there is a good chance you lose your job, silicon valley, they embrace that culture. there are things if you fail it's not going to be good for you. are these new, older industries, embracing egoes as well? >> some are. i think big manufacturing, we make big stuff. the myth of the manufacturing decline. it's job decline, not money decline, yes, i believe we need new institutions we have think of, our education system, how we think about work, pensions, who 401 ks? >> aren't we at a point that we can't fail? it seems on those issues. >> i'd say the failure of willie lohman, in "death a of a
salesman," you fail once in your career, your life is over. that we cone don't want. what we want is a lot of rapid thinls. >> let me end on part of what you write, which is so interesting. we are a strange species, thrill seeking, terrified of failure, eager for new adventure. we discover ways to share those risks and those reward, then we could conceivably arrive somewhere better. the pre-modern era was all rick and no reward. the corporate era had modest rewards and minimal risks. if we conquer our fear of failure, we can just maybe have both. i like it. >> i'd like you to read everything. you are on optimistic. >> exactly. we will check out the latest magazine piece. thank you so much, thanks for coming on. coming up, another wheel of fortune fail. it was enough to make host pat
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i know i've often called president obama a national embarrassment. i can't do that tonight.
because tonight he is international embarrassment. because this time it's in coin where he's attending an economic summit. once again, he has embarrassed america. first off, he wore traditional chinese garb but forgot the star fleet communicator. even worse who, when he should be over there chewing china out, he was chewing something else. >> there have also been reports in the chinese media the chinese here in beijing were offended by mr. obama's gum chewing. >> that is outrageous, why are you chewing nicorette? the one place where inhaling burnt tar is the healthier choice. >> that is, i bet here's tired, that's not polite. >> it's a little rich for a country that walks down the street hocking lugis everywhere they go. >> and wearing things. >> please.
>> good point but my mother did teach me never to coup gum. >> especially at dinner. >> did you see this bill clinton clip in. >> i love it. former president clinton sitting down with ellen for tv talk. it turns out he's a big fan of the tv producer shanda rooim scandal and thrillers where politicians get away with mur r murder. >> but the thing at "scandal" and "house of cards" that makes it fun to watch is i can't imagine that either a president, spacey, or the president's chief of staff on "scandal" could really get away with murder. i wish i had known about that when i was in office. think of all the opportunities i would have had. >> people you could have gotten rid of. >> so little time some many people that have it coming. >> it's so easy. >> yeah. crazy. >> so little time so many people had it coming. >> i can't believe that. >> earlier this year, shanda
rooims inviteled him to guest star on "scandal." . >> what else is this. >> "wheel of fortune." >> pat sajack, dodgers >> you you are watching "wheel of fortune" contestants try to solve it instead of wait. here's what happened when pat sajack is not in the mood for that hail mary. >> lee we start with you, let's have a letter. >> n. >> one n. >> you got three second to wrestle with. riding a brown horse. >> that's amazing. and it's wrong! audrey. >> d. >> one g. >> three seconds. >> riding a white horse?
>> who said anything about a horse? >> i thought those were excellent guesses. >> i'm confused. >> one letter? >> in three seconds you want to take a guess? >> the correct response was seeing a buddy movie. >> i thought it was a good guess. >> why didn't they ask for an e? >> it's a little lick mid-terms, people are out of sorts. >> why are we telling you about this? >> the trust in institutions is falling. coming up at the top of the hour. boy, this show, politicians from both parties recovering from some major foot in mouth disease this election cycle. we thought it was bad. the list keeps going. we got what they're saying now
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washington. we have jonathan gephart. in just a few minutes. why they lost, a fascinating take on why we lost and why we continue to do so, his experiences his perspective. first, it's kind of like the gaffe show. this is the gaffe show. we have so many gaffes on both sides of the aisle to cover that it's kind of, it go es from bad to worse. so we'll start with m.i.tive. professor jonathan gruber. a man described by many as the architect of obamacare. >> he's mostly described as the architect by jonathan gruber. >> he worked on obamacare. >> he worked on obamacare. i would not call him the architect. >> an architect. >> he was speaking at the -- >> a consultant. >> he was speaking at the university of pennsylvania when he said the lack of transparency
in the law was instrumental in getting it past because of the quote stupidity of the american voter. >> lack of transparency is a huge advantage. calm at this time stupidity of the american voter, whatever, basically, that was critical, it's the second best argument. i wish mark was right. he can make it transparent. i'd rather have this. it's like a reporter story. i'd rather have this law than not. >> yesterday the professor apologized for his remarks. >> the comment in the video were made in an academic conference. speaking off the cuff. i bakeally spoke inappropriately. public policy that involves spending is typically less palatable tan doithan doing thi for the tax code. it would have made sense to do it like in massachusetts, which would be to give people money to toss out tear health insurance.
that was politically feasible. instead of the tax code. that was the only point i was making. >> first of all, i was wondering why nobody jumped all over this. meacham, is it fair to make it parallel to the huge firestorm after we talked about this first hour, tafd stockman during the reagan era, undermining reagan's policies, and that we're sort of not, except here, i don't know, i don't see it in papers. >> you can spend a whole certain moments went viral. what often happens i think the conditional explanation is ifing is a prevailing narrative, it tend to stick. so stockman back in '81, '82 was saying the emperor has no clothes in terms of reagan
nommics. i think obamacare is in a way it's not, details are not as front and center. >> you don't think the narrative is right of parallel? >> it's surprising, but i think that people have made up their minds about obamacare and the doesn't add to it. >> it's la ready to measure the impact in time and the tools and communication. bill ryder in the atlantic magazine, bill stockman saying we have no idea what these numbers mean about the federal budget. it was on a piece of paper in a magazine that people held in their hand and read for hours at a time. todaying bomb, it's gone, out in the nether world. whaufr whatever you say.
>> don't beat it to death. i want to get to the other o'pollings, the other gaffes we will list them here. let's move on while here on the subject, fair enough, that was a huge gaffe, right? we can all agree on that. i do think had it been a republican community -- >> i think stature gaffe between the office of the omb and the consultant for the -- that's why it's not a big deal. >> okay. let's try this one. on the republican side, former governor hayley barber says he is sorry for calling president obama's policies tar babies on a post-election conference call. barber once chafrd the rnc said if someone takes offense i regret it. then the context nor the connotation was intended to offense. gaffe? that is terrible. >> so much outreach for the
republicans. >> so -- meacham is stoic. >> putting it in context, though, it's a stup thing so they, today is more, but this is a reference to uncle remass to briar rabbit and a tar baby being known as a sticky situation him no, i think it's a stupid thing to say. it opens the door to all sorts of accusations of racism or at least being insensitive to race issues. it's entirely possible that somebody could use this term and not have negative motivation. >> the truth is, you cannot talk like that. there are things you can't say that were said in the '60s, you should know that. >> jonathan, your take on matt's take? >> look, hayley barber had a problem. he apologized in that if anyone
was offended kind of way. but you know, as governor dean just said, there are things that used to be you know socially acceptable to say that aren't socially acceptable today and for good reason. so someone, especially hay lay barber, son of the south, should know that saying things like tar baby and other things that he had said in the past, whistleing dixie was one of the things he said a few years ago just aren't acceptable. hayley barber is one of those people who i actually respect because he is a good politician, but when it comes to race is a huge blinder. >> while we're on the topic of race, charlie wrangle. >> my old buddy. >> he's trying to explain why he tauld tea party republicans white crackers. the long-term congressman said
he thought white crackers was a term of endearment. >> please. please. these people ought to know how to make the second statement rather than the nisinitial statement. >> let's go right to hayley a. term of endearment? >> please. >> i'm from the north. i know what that means when you talk leak that. >> you are from vermillion. >> go ahead. >> part of me wonders. i haven't seen the full context, not that it matters of how congressman rangle said this, part of me wonders if he was sort of joking because he does have a dry sense of humor, but there is no way on green earth congressman rangel could have possible thought calling someone white cracker was a term of endearment. >> look up "snl" from 1975,
chevy chase playing word aassociation interviewing -- >> okay. we'll check that out. >> every word we just discussed is used in word association 1975. 40 years ago. >> wow. okay. >> okay. i think we are done with our gaffe batch. >> the difference is these guys are xhedians and comedy is a great way to discuss difficult issues. these guys are politicians and they're not supposed to be talking leak that. >> we nigh not to use those words then are being used today. >> speaking of. speaking of bs. senator joe manchin, he's from west virginia. he and remaining red state democrats are finding themselves as the new swing votes in the senate. with new found power when asked monday by politico, whether democrats would try and block
and tackle republican legislation for the next two years, manchin was direct. reportedly saying that's bs, i'm not going to put up with that. talking points memo listed man chin among the six senators who could concedingly vote with republicans on key legislation. >> what do you think? >> i actually don't think it's a terrible vote to vote with republicans, if what they're proposing makes sense. >> at this point they all need to be able to live with it. >> come on, you can't be -- >> i actually heard some signs, it may be one weak post-election from mcconnell and boehner there actually might propose some legislation that might pass. >> it was so refreshing to hear conjohn mccain jed saying we want to work with the president. >> now we will find out. >> meacham. >> manchin has been interesting talking about how different it is to be in the senate and be governor and, in fact, a lot of folks think he might go book and run for governor, as he puts it.
you can actually do something as opposed to wondering around playing bipartisan paintball. another rule for him is he won't raise money against any incumbent and as he puts it, how can you ask somebody for a vote when you have gone into their state and tried to cost them their job. so if there is going to be action, it's going to be around people like manchin him i think it's really interesting to watch. >> matt, is that you? jonathan. go ahead. >> there is very consistent with what senator manthen has been saying since arriving in the senate. meacham touches on some of what he has been saying. he has been working with the brookeings institution and other senators up on capitol hill who were also governors to come up with this sort caucus they put a bipartisan together to come up with ways to look in areas where democrats and republicans can come together to make the senate
work again him so bakeally, what you have there is sort of a former governor's frustrated caucus who are used to getting things done him then they get to the senate and they don't do anything at all. >> before we get to our next guest. we have new numbers of the mid-term election with voters showing no sign of boyer's remorse. according to gallup, 53% want republicans in congress to have more influence than president obama. 36% would prefer the white house set the priorities. two years ago, when the president was reelected he had a four-point edge on who should set the nation's course. while more voters today say the u.s. would be better off than republicans, nearly half believe party control won't make a difference we will see, meek. >> meika, we have news out of airaq, people are dead, carried out by sunni militants, daniel
bolger, retired general, he helped command posts in iraq and afghanistan. he is the author of why we lost. the general's inside account of iraq and afghanistan. thank you have much nor joining us. i read your piece in the "time's." let me ask you, sir, do you think the mission that we gave the young men and women who served in both iraq and afghanistan was clearly defined be i the command, by people like you and not you specifically but did we fail them? did we fail the young men and women who served this country? >> meek. a great question. do i include myself in those who fail to define this mission properly and carry out my responsibles as a commander. we say in the army that a commander is responsible for everything his unit does or fails to do. when i look at iraq and afghanistan today, unfortunately, i got to admit failure. that's not the fault of the great young men and women,
talented, brave, willing to sacrifice. they did everything we asked of them. i think we asked the wrong things. >> also in the time's piece, i have not yet read the book, but the surge, general petraeus' surge in anbar province, which was met with great acclaim, american media and the pentagon is a huge success. was it really a success, a victory or was it more or less a holding action in andar province? >> i think it's the latter. at the time, obviously, nature surge is temporary. the type of war we are fighting against these mytant ensurgents is a long-term prospect and so a temporary surge is going to alleviate the symptoms for while. like giving a bunch of aspirin, once you take it away the fever spikes up, all have you done is deal with symptoms. >> general, do you feel there was not a comprehensive plan once there was a recognition of
being adrift to figuring out what to do? >> well, there was no plan. the plan essentially was to keep doing what we were doing. >> that ends up with the war of attrition with americans trying to go through villages and sort out which of the military age males might be the enemy. that's a losing proposition. if you fight insurgents, the local people have to take the lead. we have to be in a supportive role. trying to be with americans that doesn't work. we learned it twice now in iraq and afghanistan. we can't afford do do that again. >> meacham. >> what do you think the legacy at this point will be? >> i hope it will be a degree of humidity and recognizing our limits. i have to say i'm a little bitten couraged by the way we are going after isis. it's not that smashing desert storm type victory that our forces are designed for. but it's a recognition that the iraqis have to lead and as our president said, it's going to be a long-term effort, multiple numbers of years, that's a refreshing if sobering effort
from our commander in chief. >> general, what do you think realistically the prospects are for training or retraining in this case, the iraqi army as it currently exists. >> i've spent a lot of time training the iraqi army and afghan, for that matter, i will tell you, it's a jenational effort to rebuild an army. the iraqi army at present is showing the same tendencys within we not them, which is not very well disciplined or well led. if we spend time with them, if we make a long-term commitment to training them, we will have a good result. we seen that before. i point to the armed forces in south korea, they were not too good, but are very good right now. that's what we are talking about. multiple decades of commitment to retrain their leaders. >> the book is why we lost, a general's inside account of the iraq and afghanistan wars, retired leiutenant general daniel bolger, thank you so much
for being on the show. thank you. jonathan capeheart, thank you very well, matt lewis, thank you very much. still ahead on "morning joe," he survived an onsluth of negative ads against him in the mid-term election. senator elect tom tillis joins us and then actress angelica huston will be here with great behind the scene stories. and one of the most prolific authors of all time, stephen kings joins us in our 8:00 hour. plus how one 24 hour-year-old man took his job a little too seriously. we'll be right back. aniston ] we what i'm wearing, i tell them aveeno®. because beautiful skin goes with everything. [ female announcer ] aveeno® daily moisturizing lotion has active naturals® oat
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unarmed black teenager. the state of missouri is already bracing for possible arrest itself. multiple law enforcement agencies will be on call including the national guard. violent protests erupted in august after a white police officer shot and killed 18-year-old michael brown. the governor says those types of demonstrations can not be repeated. >> these measures are not being taken because we are convinced violence will occur but because we have a responsibility to prepare for any contingency. the public demands and i demand that. this is america. people have a right to express tear views and grievances, but they do not have the right to put tear fellow citizens or their property at risk. as i said before, violence will not be tolerated. the residents and businesses of this region will be protected.
>> all right. so we look at this out of the new york daily news, fork city doctor craig spencer released from hospital after being declared free of the ebola virus. his release means there are no known cases in the country. yesterday the government of malala yousafzama mali reported a second case. the u.s. state department built a mock city in rural virginia to train agents who protect diplomat itself over seas, the city is complete with shops, offices, churches and a mock u.s. embassy. >> wow. >> the agents that train there spend three days learning how to deal with every attack. bloomberg business week is out
with new rarpgings for american business schools and duke university is no. 1. u pep, university of chicago, stanford and columbia round out the top five 45r vard slips from two to eight. >> all right. we look at the independent. a young pan buys fine iphones for an elaborate wedding proposal. take a look at this. he buys the phone for this proposal. gets rejected by his girlfriend. >> what? >> it happened in chosen on singles day. this is look our valentine's day, people find out who tear crush is. they make large romantic jess cures. with friends and family, he pops the question in the middle of a heart made out of iphones. he reportedly spent $99,000 on the phones. she is apparently a samsung check. shelves not down.
>> it was the 5. >> she said no. >>. yeah. >> after all things public. >> down with the samsung. >> not happy. >> show me the receipts. >> i feel bad for him. >> we didn't mention the ring. he probably popped money on the iphones and gave a cheap ring. >> i wouldn't want to be behind him in the return line. in the huffington post, a man put the request of a co-worker to watch their plant very seriously. 23-year-old eric freeman documented every moment. he and the plant posed on wux, on the slide at the park. taking coffee breaks and even in the restroom. >> i think the deer with the plastic thing on his head is better than that story.
>> so we're not allowed to show this. >> that's my deer. it's the grossest thing i have ever seen. >> can we show it like that? >> no, just. >> our girls watch as family. we don't get it. it's sort of the culture. this really bums me out. one person in the room got it. >> i got it. >> it's really, it's just nobody actually wants to see all that. is there one guy in this room that needs to see that? >> well, who hasn't already seen it. meacham. >> i just want to say. . >> show it. it's in the paper. show it. >> i can show it? >> i don't know. >> no. >> hey. >> up next. >> good luck. it's your career. >> i want to say, my people are ruining the sank sanctity of marriage? >> up next. >> she's a mom.
>> oh. >> up next, he was a part of the republican wave that overtook the senate. north carolina's senator elect tom tillis joins "morning joe" next. to map their manufacturings at process with sticky notes and string, yeah, they were a little bit skeptical.
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. >> joining us now from washington, republican senator elect from north carolina, tom tillis. he defied polls to turn it in favor of the gop. we congratulate you, welcome to the show this morning. my first question to you, we will go around the table, different perspectives is exit polls show voters in your state favor raising the minimum wage, so what are you going to do about that? >> i'm going to ask my state legislators who have the:30 to do that to take that up and work with businesses and do it in a way that's responsible. i don't think we need a national solution to all these problems. that's one of the problems with what's going on in washington there are a number of things, leg latory state reform we did to make our economy work. we node to do that at the national level. a lot can be done with the
states the they have responsible leaders. >> senator, you were speaker of the house before, you could have done it if you wanted to do it in the state. how come you didn't? >> because at the time we had one of the highest tax regulatory environments in the country. we went from 44 to 16. we are getting the economy back on track and, quite honestly, i think it will become less relevant because our job growth is exceeding many states, if we have more demand for jobs, will you have higher wages that will make the minimum wage more irrelevant. >> senator, in your first few weeks, months in the senate beginning the next session in january, what would you consider a larger priority, finding a place for the under ploed and unemployed to get work or repealing obamacare? >> well, i think have you to have several tracks going. there has been inaction over the
past several years that you are going to have to have several things moving at the same. there has to be a solution to replace obamacare and solve the problem. >> why? >> because it's fiscally unsustainable. we need to remember we are talking about something that will add to the debt, nearly a trillion dollars. it will threaten doctors and hospitals to the tune of $700 billion out of medicare. have you enrollment numbers and other things that raise questions about whether or not it's fiscally sustainable. that could potentially threaten what you can do for the very people we are trying to provide a solution to. at the same, there are dozens of bills that are job creating bills, tax reform, things that can get the business more on track him the more we are able to create economic activity the easier the problems come to fix the economy and the debt. >> meacham. >> do you favor something along the line of simpson bowles to
attack these issues? >> i think you have to keep in mind, when simpson bowles was published. that report had a standby title call the moment of truth. so if it was bad at 10 trillion, it's really bad at 17 trillion. we're going to have to make tough decisions like we did in north carolina that the people may not understand what we need to do is make sure we explain it to them along the way how it gets the economy back on track. it also attracts the national security. the u.s. a debt to our national security. >> speaking of national security are you willing to follow social and get rid of the deficit? >> i think to do proper debt reduction, everything has to be looked at. everything has to be looked at
in a possible way. we have to maintain health issues, people who can't fend for government. we understand these are very dangerous times in the world. we have to protect our soviet and security but also have various places around the globe. >> thank you for being on the show. >> i'm happy to be from the state that hosts duke university top mba program. >> no 1. congratulations to that, too. thank you, take care. up next, a disease that is one of the country's worst silent killers, what it is and what is being done about it neighborhood, plus, angelica huston tells us which of her roles was like having a dirty little secret. we'll be right back. so ally bank really has no hidden fees on savings accounts?
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. >> all right. there are two major breakthroughs in china, the u.s. and coin have agreed to major deals involving pollution and military cooperation. the deals are seen as a sign of that youing between u.s. and chosen relations, stumbling blocks remain, especially when it comes to cyber security and human rights. >> i described to him why it's so important for us to speak out for the freedoms that we believe are universal. rights that we believe are the birth right of all men and women wherever they live, whether in new york or paris or hong kong. >> the things are still icy between president obama and russia's vladmir putin. the cell len released photos of their 33 offhand meetings. the world leaders have been
chastised for a lack of propriety as well. president obama apparently used his own limosine and chewed gum while entering the summit him it was widely pand, apparently, just this morning the full reports indicates he was chewing gum in a meeting with the national people's congress. >> get over it. >> i love stuff leak this. it's all so silly. then there were fireworks in the chinese media over a pyrotechnic display when he put a shawl ore the first lady. it was scrubbed by chinese sensors. i don't understand it. >> it was too forward. too forward to make that approach to the first lady to do that. although, she accepted it graciously. >> he didn't give her a back rub like america merck el got one. a shawl. >> it was apparently too civ
schiffal russ. how to control type ii diabetes and reverse free diabetes using free simple diet and lifestyle changes. >> thank you. >> there are so many serious illnesses if you really look at diet and lifestyle, you really can have an impact on them. >> oh, absolutely. that's probably the biggest factor that we can control in all of health. everything from heart disease to diabetes, to aulgs heimaners maybe. >> with type ii, the numbers are bad in terms of how many people have it and also deaths. >> they're incredible. almost 100 million have diabetes. it accounts for over a quarter million deaths. we talk about health care. the cost of health care. if we can change this, it's the long-term costs that is amazing. >> meek. >> what is prediabetes? >> all these technical definitions, if your blood sugar fasting is between zero and 125,
that's we have diabetes. diabetes is when it's over 125. it doesn't seem like a beg deal. if you have prediabetes, have you two to three times of a heart attack of 94 neuropathy. given. >> given the programmers, wouldn't nearly everyone have prediabetes? >> european million people have prediabetes. we are taking it for granted. nowadays it's like being overweight is the norm. we almost come to accept that. we shouldn't be, it's dangerous. >> no, let me ask you about this. i'm looking at in your books even recipes, it points to a complete overhaul of your diet. but it seems leak looking alt these recipes these are just for everybody. >> they are for everybody. it doesn't need to be difficult. it doesn't need to be scary. you don't have to sacrifice. we need to change the way we eat
and incorporate more natural things, actually the key word is fiber. you can eat carbohydrates, if you eat them in things that contain fiber, they go slowly into your bloodstream. >> how do we get a better hand him on habits, learn habits we are passings down to our kids, one thing you talk about in the book the blood sugar budget. >> correct. >> how do we become more conscientious about blood sugar and knowing where we need to be at all times. >> hopefully, the book will help. the first part is education. we are so set on routines that we really have to change the whole para.com of how we deal with food. that's a very difficult thing. i'm the first one when i see fast food, my instinct is to go in there. you have to relearn that. it's small pieces, it won't be overnight. >> it's better coming from you, a doctor. isn't there a sense because you
say people have to really change the way they eat. their mind is set to want food. it's also, you go to a grocery store or a restaurant, although we are doing better, and there is nothing for you if you really want to eat well. i mean, hasn't society to an extent the way our food is delivered to the american people, hasn't it tricked us into eating badly? in there absolutely. there are two things, i have a lot of chefs, they say make a good meal, that's fat and salt. >> right. >> i know, that's where you really have to be assertive, which is what is difficult. i disagree. there is always something healthy at a restaurant. you just have to ask for it and fight for it. >> weren't you in mcdonald's? you can find something healthy they are working really hard to have, you know, all sorts of options there. you can definitely eat a healthy meal. the problem is you are smelling the fries. >> absolutely. >> and they're addictive. the salt and the fat takes over
parts of the brain. that's why i'm saying i feel like it's very hard to make good decisions. >> it is very difficult. if i had more control. we tax things that are dangerous for us, like cigarettes and things like that. you know taxing bad food is very taboo, you are interfering with the whole economics system. >> are some people more susceptible to die boaabetes? >> there is a genetic component. the hispanics, two times more likely to have diabetes. african-americans, also two times more likely. so whether it's socioeconomic because there is a lower income and bad food is inexpensive, but there is definitely a genetic component. it doesn't mean if your parents have it you are going to get it. >> if i look at die boats friendly recipes, the way people should eat if they could. >> correct. >> how do we create a world for ourselves in which we can eat
this way. i think it's not as easy as it seems. >> it isn't. that's a lot. but we will start one step at a time, which is continuing to hammer the message home. we are hoping when people see these recipes, which are created by a professor of nutrition, they can sa this, xpt i can substitute this for this, olive oil for butter. >> what i learned in writing a book about food obsession a couple years ago, that if you do this, your tastebuds will be retrained to want this food. >> absolutely. >> you have to go through a couple weeks of tough. >> i don't know if any of you have gone through the atkins diet. i have always had a problem with my weight. gow through two weeks of detox, you get af the shuck ars, you are ready to kill everybody. >> you have to have, you almost can't stop thinking about it. >> how is there a way for us in
regular dietary habits to understand and recognize where we need to be blood sugar wise? >> okay. you need to go to a physician, first of all. you into ed to know that the beautiful tests, something an a 1 c which measures the amount of shuck ar gound bo under to your blood cells. it will tell you where it's been. if it's above 6.5%, you have a problem. that's the key test. >> for men is it about carrying weight in our mid-section and the women carrying extra weight? >> mid-section and hips. yeah, that and high blood pressure is the biggest problem. so that's where we do tend to carry it. >> is there anything, doctor, where you can do about reviveing john meacham? john is sitting there thinking of that happy meal. >> do you sometimes feel as though you're an anti-smoking person since 1962?
>> yes, absolutely. >> see. >> there you go, barnacle. >> i think they're going to become like toke him do you think i'm crazy? >> i don't think you are crazy. when people really look at it, they can. >> i thought she was asking me if someone was going to sue me. >>. i think it's fat and salt. >> we done look at it. we were talking about doing some and ethnic analysis bodegas and all these things and what you can get. >> alex, all right. he's telling me to go to break. he's getting mean. the book is "the diabetes solution." thank you. we can talk for hours, alex won't let us. still ahead arc young man. >> meacham won't be quiet. >> this man 24 hour-years-old left the civilized world to be alone with nature in the alaskan wilderness. it was portrayed in the popular movie "into the wild." now his sister is revealing the real person he left behind. also ahead, governor scott
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last night, you were unhinged. you were like some desperate howling demon. you frightened me. do it again. >> how's your love life? >> none of your business. >> it's all a front. you're working some angle and don't tell me you're not 'cause i wrote the book. >> you still running playback money for the mob? >> that's me, that's who i am. >> let's do it. >> all the lights on? >> yeah, right here on the oriental. with all the lights on. >> mamma mia. >> those were just a few of angelica houston's many roles
during her legendary movie career. her new memoir. >> i love the title, "watch me." >> you're amazing. >> you are amazing. the title, "watch me." >> i like it. >> tony richardson, who was a great british film director, gave me my first real job which was understudy in "hamlet" in england in 1969. >> those were a couple of bizarre references. >> they were. >> trying to make sense of them -- >> okay, that's quite a way to start, okay. >> yeah, but then i guess about five years later, i was at a party in los angeles and tony was there and he had this great voice. it was very much like this. he said, poor little you, you're never going to do anything with your life. so much talent, so little to show for it. i thought, "watch me." and that's how that came about.
>> i like it. there's a lot in here. your relationships with certain men. ryan o'neal. you're finally talking about that. why and -- it looks fairly abusive from what i've read. >> i don't want to classify ryan as simply a one-dimensional abusive person, but yes, there was abuse in the relationship. my feeling is that basically violence has no place in relationships. and if there's one girl out there who's in a bad relationship, she should get out of it. >> there's another thread through your love life, jack nicholson. you visited with him in different periods of your life. but there's one part in the first dating period. you call yourself tragically gullible. at that point, you also talk about the potential of marriage which he really broke your heart
over. do you find looking back he was one of the true loves of your life? >> oh, yeah, jack was definitely one of the true loves of my life and continues to be the love of my life. he's an extraordinary man, a brilliant man. i think, you know, that line shouldn't be misinterpreted. there's a line in there where he says marry you, are you kidding? it was a joke. it wasn't really as derogatory as -- >> you say that now but then you cried for three days. >> of course, it's a terrible thing for a girl to hear. >> i'm going to make you retell the story again. your first day on the set of "the royal tannenbaums," your scenes with gene hackman. >> wes anderson is the director. i'm extremely nervous. it's a freezing cold january day. i'm introduced to gene hackman would i have to slap across the face in the first scene. so basically there are a few
rehearsals and i kind of bat him around the lapel and so forth. knowing that this moment is coming up. and yes, wes called action. >> listen, i'm not dying, but i need some time. a month or so. okay. i want us to -- >> what's wrong with you? >> i saw this big red mark coming. this welt coming. like, oh, he's going to eat me alive. but he was really sweet and thank god we didn't have to go for another take. >> do you have a favorite movie, a favorite project, looking back? >> that's got to be hard. >> i love the grifters because i got so many great lines. >> read about people killing people and all that. but when that happens, my god. >> i got to play opposite joan
cusack and annette bening, right at the top of their game. >> the book is called "watch me." you are so nice and normal. you are. >> what did you expect? >> what did you think? >> vampy and diva-like and a big like in the room like everything would change when she walked in. >> it didn't. >> no. it all changed for the better. except when you slapped joe but he deserved it. thank you so much. the book looks amazing. we'll be right back with much more "morning joe."
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president obama finds himself in beijing for apec, the asia pacific economic cooperation. summit, incredibly dry economic conference dedicated to promoting global prosperity through the -- what the, who the, wait, who break, out joseph and the amazing technicolor drummer corps for the economic summit? what, fireworks? fireworks that spell out apec? are you kidding me! although to be fair, china does the whole fireworks thing for pretty much anything.
they love a good firework. >> good morning, everybody. it is wednesday, november 12th. okay, gentlemen, close the news. >> wow. >> good morning. >> kim car dikardashian apparen naked again. how surprising. with us naked on set we have mike barnacle, former governor of vermont. it's not even attractive. >> she's a republican. >> oh, howard dean. >> right to the political. >> in washington, we have senior contributor of the daily caller and columnist for the week elise. good to have you all on board. sort of clean-up time on capitol hill as democrats and republicans are trying to stem the bleeding from their own gaffes. it's a term that michael kinsly defined as when someone in washington gets caught telling the truth. this obamacare story which i saw yesterday and i'm surprised it
didn't emerge. but today it definitely is because the most serious of gaffes came from m.i.t. professor jonathan gruber, a man described by many as the architect of obamacare. speaking at the university of pennsylvania last year when he said the lack of transparency in the law was instrumental in getting it passed because of the, quote, stupidity of the american voter. >> the lack of transparency is a huge political advantage. basically, call it the stupidity of the american voter or whatever but basically that was really, really critical. it's the second best argument. look, i wish we could make it all transparent but i'd rather have this law than not. the things i'd rather have changed but i'd rather have this law than not. >> i don't think you say that right? that might be a problem. >> the problem is not that he said it, the problem is that he thinks it. that the core -- i'm serious. the core problem. put together by a bunch of
elitists who don't fundamentally understand the american people. that's watt problem is. >> now we're covering it. the professor apologized. take a look. >> the comment in the video was made at an academic conference. speaking off the cuff. basically spoke inappropriately. public policy that involves spending is typically less politically palatable than policy that involves doing things to the tax code. it would have made more sense to do obamacare the way we did in massachusetts which is give people money to offset the cost of their health insurance. that was politically feasible. and so instead it was done to the tax code. >> it's interesting dynamic. this broke yesterday. we kind of, you know, were trying to get to it. nobody covered it except for some right wing -- had this been -- had this been a republican, what do you think would have happened? >> well, he is -- this century's version of david stockman who
was ronald reagan's original budget director in 1981, in an extensive magazine piece in the old atlantic magazine by the former washington post editor. david stockman sat down with him. he was reagan's budget director. sat down with bill grider many, many times, explants the budget. said basically none of us understands what any of these numbers are about. >> let me guess, implying that president helpingen had any idea what the numbers were about. >> i think there was a huge firestorm. >> exactly. >> that's my point. >> david stockman was the direct of the office of management and budget. it's slightly different. >> he's one of the architects, is he not you can't define him as the architect. >> he likes to think he's one of the architects. he did play a significant role as the --
>> if he's saying that out loud, that's a reflection of things -- >> i agree, i agree. if you're ronald reagan's office of management budget director you have direct access to the president. this guy probably had some access to the president. i guess for the most part he didn't. i'm not squeezing the language. it's terrible. it does dishts how we got this bill which is for a complicated -- >> it's bad. we have to look at how we cover things on each side the aisle here. elise did cover it. ways your take? what did you find? >> well, i think we have to remember the nancy pelosi comment that makes this jonathan gruber comment all the more painful for people on the republican side. remember, pelosi had that press conference weather she said we have to pass this bill to see what's in it and i think that has continued to echo through campaign ads, four or five years
out. again, this makes republicans extra sensitive to the idea that health care reform was concocted by democrats in a room in a kind of conspiratorial way. i'm not saying that is what happened, that is what republicans say happened. i think that's an impression that's very difficult for companies due to these comments. i think democrats need to be much more careful because clearly there was an open process. than a lot of republicans believe. anybody covering the formulation of the bill for months and months can tell you the pieces were reported on. they were worked out. republicans might not think they had enough input. but these comments are very damaging. they contribute to this idea that obamacare was hatched in a dark room and it was a conspiracy. >> howard? >> first of all, one of the reasons the republicans didn't have any input is they didn't want any input. for them not to complain they didn't have any input into the
health care law and all they were try to do is sabotage it is a bit much. it is the law. there's about 15 million people that have health care insurance because of obamacare. there are plenty of things that -- we can go through them, i like to do that. but it is the law. it's worked. i don't think if we're tying this in any way into the debacle last week that it had much to do with it. i think this is basically beating a dead horse. >> well, i -- okay, so while we're on gaffes. on the republican side, former governor haley barbour says he's sorry for calling president obama's policies tar babies. >> come on. >> on a post-election conference call. >> how do you do that? >> barbour tells politico, if someone takes offense, i regret it but, again, neither the context nor the inno tation was
supposed to offend. congressman rangel is trying to explain why he called tea party republicans white crackers. oh, my god. is this like -- we're not the onion. we swear. this is true. in an interview, the longtime congressman now says he thought white crackers was a term of endearment? >> no. >> who are these people? >> thuis must be the air pollution from beijing affecting people's brains. unbelievable. >> before comparing tea party republicans to jim crow segregation -- what, what, what? i'm going to go. i'm going. willie. it's all yours. >> it's always the explanation afterward. >> i don't even know. it was like a cascade of stories that just -- >> really, wow.
>> hey, matt lewis, let's get you in this conversation if you want to be in this conversation. i mean, those last two were obviously very ugly comments. the first one talking about obamacare has more of a -- more implication for what's happening in this country because of a law that was passed. what's your reaction to that from gruber? >> obviously, it's horrible things that he said. i think it's a gaffe precisely because he's telling the truth, you know. whether it was president obama's promise that if you like your doctor, you can keep it, if you like your insurance plan, you can keep it, or whether it was the sort of behind the scenes cornhusker kickback, the way this bill was sort of pushed through, you know, one party pushed it through. it's been really ugly and messy. now we certainly have an indication that the american public was misled. if they knew what was in this bill, they probably wouldn't have supported it. i do have to say, as damaging as this scandal is, i think more
importantly it's something else that gruber said, which is that, you know, he knew in advance that states who didn't sort of create their own exchange wouldn't be eligible for these tax subsidies. that, in fact, it's not only scandalous but relevant as we lead into a supreme court decision which could potentially damage obamacare. i think grub, there's the gaffe, the more politically toxic gaffe and then the substantive gaffe that i think is probably going to be with us a lot longer. >> let's move on. wisconsin governor scott walker is pushing ahead with the controversial plan to drug test recipients of public assistant. the proposal would apply to people receiving unemployment benefits and food stamps. a spokesman for the governor says he will spend the next several weeks waiting for his cabinet to create a specific
proposal. both alabama and missouri passed bills that allowed drug tests if a applicant was suspected of using drugs. in 2010, at least 12 states failed to pass bills calling for suspiciousless drug testing across the board. wisconsin is one of five states that currently perform drug tests on public assistant applicants who have felony drug convictions. so, howard, actually, you're perfect for this. what do you think of the concept? there's a lot of -- there's possibly proof that it's unconstitutional. >> and yet, this is -- >> the gop is not content with waging war on women, they're now waging war on poor people. >> why? >> because they're signaling -- you're getting unemployment and that means you're working and now you've lost your job so that makes you a suspect for using drugs. >> what if you're using drugs? >> what if i'm using drugs? what if barnacle's using drugs?
does that mean we just get a drug test? that means -- the police are entitled to just grab us off the street and -- >> for the sake of argument, let me ask you, if you're going to be receiving money from the government, isn't it okay for the government to say, we'll give you the money, we'll support you -- >> let's tax everybody on wall street who's getting all the -- >> you can't -- >> -- drug tests right down here on wall street for people getting tax breaks. that's government money too. what the hell's going on? you can't take citizens who pay taxes, lose their jobs and now test them for drugs. this is a war on poor people. scott walker is too immature to be a governor and i'm amazed he's done as well as he has politically. >> i do understand what governor dean is saying and it does sort of -- the libertarian in me is a little bit concerned, you know, once government has a say in
your life and they increasingly do in all of our lives, all of a sudden there are expectations you would have to comply. if the citizens of wisconsin decide that this is appropriate, i think we should, you know, i'm not going to throw it out. i mean, look, it's there money. it's not the government's money. it's coming from the taxpayers. so i'm a little bit conflicted on this. i don't think it's like an orwellian thing that we're making it out to be either. >> there is a fundamental misunderstanding of what it means to be poor in this country. and i think the fundamental misunderstanding of this concept is held by too many people in various state legislatures. nobody elects to be poor. nobody has a child and says, i hope this child grows up to be poor. >> i totally agree with you. >> why don't we drug test the members of each and every legislature in this country before they vote on these
cockamamy bills? if you're a huge insurance company, you're looking for a break -- >> maybe we can cut a deal with walker so all the members of the legislature and the governor himself gets drug teted on the same schedule -- aren't they on welfare? they're getting taxpayer's money and they're doing nothing, right? >> still ahead on "morning joe," he's written more than 50 books and he's still going. best selling author stephen king is here with his latest novel. plus, calvin klein uses a size 10 model in its latest campaign. why some are insisting on calling her plus sized. first, here's bill karins with a check on the forecast. >> doesn't look plus sized to me. let's talk about the cold. i think we're at the peak of it. wyoming is just off the charts ridiculous for november. for wyoming and colorado, one of the coldest november days you've ever seen. let's get into the number details. casper, wyoming, the sun is coming up. it is minus 16. that's the temperature. not even the windchill. you did drop to negative 21
which tied your all-time november low temperature. this is an historical now cold arctic outbreak. the cold covers about half the country at least. it was below freezing this morning. here's your windchill. a big goose egg in amarillo. negative 26 in casper is the lowest i've been able to find. the cold air now starting to seep into areas like detroit, indianapolis, pittsburgh this afternoon. we also have some snow in denver. denver's probably the worst forecast in the entire country out there. your temperature will be 4 to 6 degrees for your thigh temperature. kind of an ugly day there on the front range. as far as the other areas, i think we have a picture of the denver area too. some of those pretty snowflakes coming down. you can't tell how cold it is out there but you can see some of those. the other thing i wanted to mention is the fog in the northeast. we've had some accidents up in massachusetts. still pretty dense around the boston area. philadelphia, about a third of a
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>> okay. twice now in 20 minutes you've used that line. sorry. sorry. go ahead. why would she do that? disgusting. actually, it's not attractive. does anybody in the room think the shot of kim kardashian in the paper today is attractive? howard. ooh. gross. gross. it's gross. sometimes too much, people, leave a little mystery. let's take a look at the -- am i being a scold? i don't get it. i mean -- i guess i'm just old. >> we can't even show it either. >> we can't even show it. but it's not -- it's -- this is crazy. >> this is incredible. "the new york times," get me through this, police are investigating a bold armed jewelry robbery. the diamond district just about three blocks south of our building here in midtown. willie, was it you? about 2:30 yesterday afternoon,
police say -- this is actually frightening. a man posing as a delivery worker entered a jewelry business on west 47th street. while an accomplice acted as a lookout. the disguised thief then allegedly pistol whipped an employee and forced him to open a safe while he held four others at gunpoint. when a fifth employee entered the office, the men fled the scene. making off with an estimated $2 million in jewelry and watches. >> the veterans day parade goes up fifth avenue a half a block from where that is. the place -- i was there yesterday, crawling with cops and military personnel and these guys walk right in the front door in broad daylight, incredible, incredible. the dallas morning news. this morning, about $300 million miles away, a european space probe named rosetta is attempting to land on a comet. there's an issue with the landing system so it's trying to use screws and a harpoon to keep from bouncing off the comet's
icy dusty surface. the landing itself takes about seven hours. because rosetta is so far away, it takes the radio transmitter 28 minutes to transmit to earth. >> the new face of a calvin klein line is proving to be be a controversial one. normal looking woman. how fantastic. the model is size 10. she's actually thin. >> that's what i thought. >> i'm just going with it here. what's the problem? >> okay, her selection as the representative of the new perfectly fit line, yeah, she's perfectly fit, maybe a little thin, looks groundbreaking. an article in elle magazine calls the model what the industry would call plus size. >> where is this coming from? >> are you making sure we have a generation of anorexics? seriously. she's gotten positive feedback
from teen girls who said they haven't seen more who look more like them represented in fashion -- >> i'm just going to walk -- >> that picture is plus sized? >> that is a normal person. what in the world is wrong with people? >> she looks fantastic. >> she's plus sizeded? >> this is an ongoing saga. the ceo speaking out after taylor swift very publicly pulled her songs from the streaming serious. many artists say spotify doesn't pay enough to use their music. but he says swift was on track to make $6 million with them this year. still, her new record pulled in nearly $12 million in its first week alone. defending the streaming service payout to artists saying they've given $2 billion to artists and songwriters since 2008. >> spotify is great. she sold 1.2 million albums in a week. >> in a week.
>> without spotify. >> what do you got here? >> "new york times." a taxi service in new york city aimed at women is finding a loyal fan base. allows women to request a car and a female driver to transport them around the city. the concept is aimed at helping women feel safer in cabs in cities around the country. while anyone is able to use the app and there are male drivers only parties including women can request a female driver. >> that's a good idea. >> i think it works. especially -- yeah, i like it. "the wall street journal." what separates real mayonnaise from fake mayonnaise. it is suing start-up company for selling a plant-based alternative known as just mayo. u unilever which makes hellmann's. saying horse and buggy definitions for mayo. >> mayo fight.
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is there anybody here? guess not. an extremist. an aesthetic voyager whose home is -- >> that was a scene from the 2007 movie "into the wild" based on the wilderness adventures of the late chris mccandless. his sister core ring decided it was time to reveal the parts of her brother's story that had never been revealed. she's out with her new book "the wild truth." that was an incredible story. yet you feel the need to set the record straight. so why don't we start there.
because there's some -- what would you say, inaccuracies, misunderstanding? >> misunderstandings. john krakow wrote a stellar book in "into the wild." a lot of the information that wasn't in that book is my fault. there are a lot of things that i told john that i wanted him to understand chris, but it's not something i was ready to share with the rest of the world. chris' story is a very powerful symbol of the devastating effects that domestic violence can have on children. and that is a misconception that people don't understand. >> so let's get to that, because that was always the big hole in the story. i mean, you can understand, you know, a young guy, you know, wanting to go off to the wilderness, to experience nature, to be with himself or of himself. but the lack of communication with the family. so what happened? why did he leave? what was the driving factor
forcing him into the wilderness? >> you use that word "force." there's misconception sometimes that people don't understand it's a lot more than just some ill-fated fantasy. chris' love for nature certainly was why he chose to go in that direction and where he chose to kind of go through his own recovery from what we went through in our childhood. >> what did you go through? >> well, domestic violence. i think people don't understand oftentimes that domestic violence in all form, whether it be physical, psychological, emotional, it's a trauma that exists. >> what was it in this case? >> the precipitator? >> my father especially, as far as the physical standpoints of violence. but, you know, my mother was his primary victim. but unfortunately, she wasn't strong enough to get herself or us out of that situation. she went from being a victim to an accomplice and it's a very unfortunate situation. i understand why people suffer in silence.
it took me 20 years to write this book. i get it. i'm really hoping that this book helps other people find their voice. >> john. >> what was the -- why after 20 years? was there something in your own life that led you to this particular time to tell the story? >> several things. first and foremost, probably becoming a mother. and understanding the importance of truth. i have a special needs child. i want her to feel empowered. i know that the absolute best thing to do that for her is just to be very open and honest and have a positive home environment. i'm also working with students as a lecture. into the wild is required reading at thousands of high schools and colleges across the country. >> and wrote about it. it's very powerful. i've seen that connection. when i go and share the rest of our story and -- by telling my story, i'm filling in the blanks of chris' story. that becomes not just an
assignment for these students anymore but it becomes a lesson that they really take with them outside of the classroom. for years as i've been doing this work, i've seen the incredible impockact it has ande difference it makes. i just knew that i had something important to share. i knew it was type ime to do th >> during your time of spending 20 years waiting to do this but also the exploration it takes personally to invest in doing this book, you write that chris was your protector as a kid going through a lot of these violent situations. so do you harbor any anger towards your brother for leaving? and then also now leaving you later in life? and if so, did you find forgiveness in this journey of putting this book together? for what your relationship with your brother is? and where this takes you now moving forward with what that relationship means and what it means to your life today? >> i can honestly say that i never was upset with chris. i was never angry at all towards him. i completely understood why he had to leave. i completely understood, you
know, after learning of his death which was devastating. it was telling me there wasn't going to be oxygen in the air the next day that chris would be gone. i never thought chris would find himself in the situation that he couldn't get through. i just think that it's sometimes difficult for people to understand, but i get it. chris and i have this connection. and i understood why he needed to go. i loved him enough to deal with the not knowing where he was. and i knew that i would see it again. and i have a very strong faith. and my brother had a strong faith. and, you know, i believe he's still with me. i believe he was -- like, during the process, i wrote this book with a focus on truth and with muir intent in my heart. chris taught me that that's what's most important. >> your life growing up, your life with your brother, your love for your break your family and what your family
experienced. was there a point in time? is there now a point in time when you think parts of it or all of it were your fault? were you able to get over that new feeling? >> as far as when we were little kids, when we were children, we were told this was our fault. that the tum mauultuous things were happening. a lot of people don't understand, that's part of filling in the blanks in this story. i'm the youngest of eight children. so, you know, we had six other we're brothers and sisters from my father's wife marsha. and my mother was his mistress. and all of our ages are intermixed. and my mother became walt's second wife. but it's a very -- it took a long time to really understand all of that because when you're a young child, you don't know what it means that your one brother that's three months older than your brother chris -- >> i think you could take a lifetime trying to unwind that. >> it takes about 20 years.
and then some solid chapters to lay it out to everybody. but, you know, it's part of the mystery and it answers a lot of questions why what drove chris. >> so many kids are being forced to think about themselves, forced in a really good way, being challenged, is a better word, because of chris' story. my daughter wrote an essay. the question was, would you ever do it? her answer i read when i was on a cross country flight. going through her summer reading essays and thinking about her college applications. i was crying the whole way to where i was going. and it was the most revealing answer from a kid who doesn't really open up. so it's amazing. the story sparks the imagination and the soul a little bit. >> you know, i think it's also about understanding the difference between selfishness and self-awareness. sometimes people think he was selfish but he was far from that. i think it's so important in the
work i do with education. i see with these students. it's getting them to, you know, they're at this age of opportunity where they're decidi deciding who they're going to be and laying that foundation for who they're going to become. i think this book is very important for so many ages. >> the book is "the wild truth." corrine mccandless, thank you. one of the great writers of his generation, horror legend stephen king. plus, why banks are facing new fines this morning. and the former navy s.e.a.l. who claims he killed osama bin laden is sharing some never heard before information. we'll be right back. ok, if you're up there, i could use some help. smart sarah. seeking guidance. just like with your investments. that sets you apart. it does? it does. you're type e*.
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states when it comes to reduction on tariffs. which could be a real help to the technology industry in the united states. so that's pretty exciting when it comes to the business angle of what's going on over there. >> michelle, thanks very much. >> so it is part of our military history that was never really meant to be revealed. it is what exactly happened. the raid that killed osama bin laden, the details. now one of the members of s.e.a.l. team 6 says he is the one who fired the fatal shot and is describing in unprecedented detail exactly what happened that night in pakistan. nbc's peter alexander has the story. >> standing on two feet in front of me, with his hands on his wife, was the face that i'd seen thousands of times. it was ubl. my first thought was, we got hi, him, we just ended the war. >> the former s.e.a.l. team 6
sniper who says he fired the fatal shot. the montana native who's been traveling the country giving paid motivational speeches describe months of preparation for the risky may 2011 raid. >> the more we trained on it, the more we realized this is going to be a one-way mission. we're going to go and we're not going to come back. we're going to die when the house blows up. we're going to die when he blows up. or we'll be there too long, we'll be arrested by the pakistanis and we'll spend the rest of our short lives in pakistan prison. it's worth it to kill him. because he's going to tie with us. >> reporter: o'neil's decision to go public is not without controversy. he's not alone. the department of justice is investigating former s.e.a.l. matt bisonette who wrote a best-seller under the pen name mark owen about shooting bin laden. without ever clearing his book with the government. last month, the s.e.a.l.'s commander fired off a stern letter, reminding their code of secrecy. i do not advertise the nature of my work, nor seek recognition
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here with us now, a long with brian sullivan and mike barnac barnacle, best-selling author stephen king. very good to have you on. >> thank you. >> you talk a lot about religion in this book and talk about how two men get together and device a deal that the devil couldn't have even dreamed of. tell us about it. >> the far tonarrator of the bo meets a young pastor. it's his first church. he's very young and eager and very involved with children. so the methodist youth fellowship. it's a lot of auto bi biographi
stuff there. because that's how i grew up. a terrible accident. he loses his wife and son. then he loses his faith. when jamie meets him again, jamie's a drug addict and the reverend jacobs is running a carney show where he takes pictures of people in lightning and gives them these 3-d portraits because he's -- kind of your basic mad scientist story. >> and a rock star. >> he's more my kind of rhythm guitarist. not very good but good enough to play in a lot of groups over the years. stephen king, you're still playing? >> i still play. some people call it that. it's a group of writers called the rock bottom remainders. the secret of the remainders is that some of those guys can actually play. you see. and i can play a little, but i
can't really, like, play. >> but you play with them once in a while? >> once in a while. i'm a rock bottom amaretis. >> these two men come together all these years later. >> it starts in 1962 when jamie's 6 and it ends this year in 2014. and jamie discovered that this guy's lost his faith, but he's also discovered what he calls the secret electricity, which is possible to heal people with this. he heals the main character of his drug addiction, but there's a -- there are side effects with some people. and there's one guy who is cured of muscular dystrophy but feels an urge to eat dirt. there's another guy who's cured of park be son's disease but he has tourettes an sib dome, but they get worse and worse, these
effects. with the electricity, i was thinking about victor franken sign and the monster and i also wanted to talk a little bit about what is beyond death because the reverend has lost his wife and son and very curious about whether or not there's some sort of after life. this is after he loses his traditional christian faith. >> you know, i don't want to -- i don't want to find out where we're going on the revival. i just started it. but the use of the narrative, the narrator in this, the voice of the narrator, how do you arrive at deciding when the narrator is going to leave off and you're going to take us down some other dark trail within the context of the book? >> well, you're stuck with the narrator in this story because jamie narrates the whole thing. but when i sit down to write a book, it's never even a question
about whether it's going to be the i voice. the character is going to narrate it. or whether it's going to be some outside, you know, omniscient third person. it just declares itself. this one, when it's a first-person narrative, i like that because it feels comforting to me, almost feels like my own voice. >> i've got a great story involving your short story "the lawn mower man," which i'll share off camera. you guys are all authors and i'm a business guy. you're one of the most powerful authors in the world. amazon, good for you business, bad for your business? >> that's not boring, i'm interested. >> amazon's good for business. back in 2001, my publisher came to me and said, we have this crazy idea. we thought we'd like to do something and just have it available for download to computers. you know how fast all this stuff grew up, you know, just sort of boom. >> exploded. >> i said, okay, let's try it.
i did a story called "riding the boy." i had it. i said, why not. it knocked down their server because everybody came in at once. demonstrated there was an appetite for this sort of thing. here's what i love. that was the one time in my life where i would be in airport departure lounges, when business guys would come up to me and they didn't want to talk about the story and say how much they loved it, they wanted to say, this is a new income stream, it's wonderful. and so it's like, again, like, revival and charles jacob's secret electricity. there's a good side to it. there's a bad side to it as well. so it's kind of put the whole book store business at risk. and also the traditional publishing thing. >> absolutely. either way, this will do well. the book is revival. stephen king. thank you very much. great to have you. >> i love to be here.
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do two jobs. >> you are done. >> no longer. >> we need one more. >> that's it for us. this is a fox news alert. i'm bret baier in washington. president obama says he wants to show the world that america is united in its fight against isis terrorists. but in asking a divided congress for a use of force authorization the president was much more definitive about what he does not want to do, send ground troops, establish a time table get in a prolonged conflict than what he does, use air support and if necessary special forces. in a poll taken before today's announcement almost three out of four people say the president does not have a clear strategy for defeating isis. all of this comes as one of the
self proclaimed success stories descends into more chaos as the u.s. embassy closed down fighters have driven vehicles abandoned by the staff. >> president obama making his pitch for a new authorization for military force with what can only be dubbed the obama doctrine. >> isil is going to lose. >> bold declarations coupled with vague language about how to get there. on one hand ruling out enduring ground forces while leaving the ground ajar. >> i would be prepared to order our special forces to take action because i will not allow these terrorists to have a safe haven. so we need flexibility but we also have to be careful. >> republicans say the mix of caution and aggression leaves them wondering if there is a plan to win. >> the president's point is he wants to dismantle isis.
i haven't seen a strategy yet. >> exhibit a may be yemen, the country where the president touted the fight against al qaeda as a success but it is now in shambles. the u.s. embassy was closed. in a scene reminiscent of militants taking over a u.s. compound in libya, rebels in yemen today seized more than 25 u.s. embassy vehicles and had u.s. marines hand over their weapons while at the white house tried to change the definition of success to pressuring al qaeda in the arabian peninsula. >> because of willingness to order u.s. military operations in that region we have succeeded in applying significant pressure to the aqap leadership operating in yemen. >> reporter: the hint of the president stopping but not defeating al qaeda which may explain the poll showing 68% saying he should be tougher on islamic extremists. as for defeating isis 60%
believe it will require ground troops. 23% say air strikes alone. 17% are unsure. the president made clear again he wants ground troops supplied by partners like jordan and caps the u.s. air campaign at three years. >> it is not reauthorization of another ground war like afghanistan or iraq. >> reporter: as he claimed al kidae -- al qaeda was on the run he said isis is being pounded. earnest said yes? >> intentionally so. >> his point was it is vague enough to give the commander in chief flexibility but democrats are complaining that leaves the door open. republicans are complaining that this ties the hands of the president and the next president on ground troops. that is why the president doesn't have votes on either side yet. >> live on the north lawn.
the isis threat has the president reconsidering his exit strategy for afghanistan. chief washington correspondent james rosen has that story tonight. >> he campaigned on it and finally last december seemed as though president obama was delivering on his promise. >> this month america's war in afghanistan will come to a responsible end. >> reporter: now senior aides have confirmed at the request of the afghan government the president is rethinking his plans for withdrawing the 10,000 u.s. troops still in afghanistan. the present time table calls for only 5,500 to remain in theater by year's end. >> the president throughout that time has preserved for himself the flexibility to respond to security situation on the ground. >> reporter: over 13 years the u.s. has lost 2,200 troops in the afghan war. the security force has complete responsibility for safe guarding the country. those americans who stay will
conduct counter terrorism operations and train, advise and assist afghan forces. >> while casualty rates are high there is no doubt about the afghan willingness to fight and die for their country. >> reporter: at the senate armed services committee top former officials warned about the perils of withdrawal. >> my sense is that in 2016 is too soon to assume that the afghan national security forces will be capable enough, that we can afford to withdraw all of our forces from the field. >> to draw down to a certain number and then to draw down to basically after office in an embassy tells our adversaries how long they have to hold out before they have to field to
themselves. >> lawmakers emphasize the u.s. mission in afghanistan has by no means been a failure noting the number of school children have surged and girls accounting for 40% of the students and women compromising 40% of the country's teachers. joining us to discuss this further is house arms services committee chairman. let's start with the aumf. as it is now will this pass? >> i don't think so but our job is to hold hearings and dig down and understand it. i think there is a lot of concern, though, that it is crafted more to thread a political needle rather than really win and get a job done. >> what is the biggest problem? >> the biggest problem are the restrictions it places. there are all these words enduring offensive ground combat operations which cannot be done.
so if you are a troop in the field with all of the bullets flying you got to have your lawyers next to you to figure out is this offensive or not? is this enduring or not? is this ground combat or not? it ties the hands of our troops which is what i'm more concerned about than tying hands of future presidents. >> there is a three year sunset provision as you mentioned that prohibits enduring combat operations. it authorizes this force against isil or associated persons and takes the place of the 2002 aumf. it repeals that in iraq and leaves the other authorization. you are saying enduring grounds operation part is the biggest part for you. >> how would that work in the field? if by contrast they are going after the front next door in syria then they don't have this restriction. if somebody said this is really rather than a brigade of troops
going after t more like a brigade of lawyers going after our troops. >> from the democrats' point of view there is no appetite to put ground troops in a combat operation in another country in the middle east. and you look at polls around the country, that's what it says. this doesn't prevent them from using specialops forces on the ground with indigenous forces? >> i think that is true. again, what it does prevent is offensive versus defensive that is kind of hard to tell when you are in the middle of a fire fight what is ground combat operations. the white house lawyers admit none of the terms have precedent. this is completely new ground that will have to be broken to figure out what is proper and what is allowed and what is not. i worry about putting our troops in that position when they are risking their lives.
>> when they say it is purposely fuzzy and flexible do you think the administration will be flexible with how it is phrased as you try to move this across the finish line in congress? >> it's a great question. i mentioned they are trying to thread a political needle. if there are alternative ways to accomplish it or other versions will they be willing or are they insisting on their wording? we don't know the answer. what we are going to do is we are going to have hearings and talk to lawyers and military people. we are going to thoroughly dig into all of the issues including the ones you mentioned whether there is really a strategy to accomplish any of this or not. we will see what the result of that is. >> as u.s. personnel are being moved out of yemen you have talked about this a few weeks ago about the concerns there. your assessment of what is happening there and the fallout? >> bottom line is increased danger to the united states homeland because over the past several years the most serious threats to our homeland have
come from al qaeda in yemen. and now a substantial amount of our presence is gone. there is less pressure on them. that makes it easier for them to plot and plan against us. >> we don't have an embassy in libya and somalia and syria? >> in each of those places they are a hot bed of terrorism that is growing and fermenting and there is not a plan to get back. remember yemen was president obama's success story. it doesn't look good. >> if you were to bet how long this is going to take to get the aumf through what would you say? >> i don't know. we have been in combat operations for months before the president ever set this up. we are going to be deliberate about it. i think it is going to take a matter of weeks to have some hearings to fully explore it. then depending on what we figure out the votes would come after that. >> thanks for the time. >> thanks for having me.
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house speaker boehner did not react well to mitch mcconnell's report that legislation restrict the president's immigration changes is stuck in the u.s. senate and that the next move is up to the house. >> the house has done its job. the senate democrats are not going to do something other than to vote no. >> a spokesman for harry reid says cursing is not going to resolve the squabbling among republicans that led to this impasse. like tonight homeland security secretary johnson said he is worried that the house and senate are pointing at each other. the house has passed the senate version of legislation authorizing construction of the keystone xl pipeline and sets up
what would be president obama's first veto of the congressional session. as of now the republicans do not have the votes in either chamber to override a veto. uncle sam apparently wants you to let him regulate and possibly tax the internet. correspondent shannon bream tells us you might have absolutely no say. >> i don't think the american people realize what is coming. >> reporter: the public won't have access to hundreds of pages of new regulations until after federal communications commission votes on them. president obama has publicly urged the agency to expand its reach over the internet and your ability to access it. chairman wheeler says without government intervention broad band providers can't be trusted to do what is best for consumers. >> broad band providers have both the economic incentive and the technological capability to
abuse their gate keeper position. >> reporter: wheeler, the administration and those who support increased government control of the internet say the new regulations are all about insuring equal access to the west. but commissioner says that is not what he is finding in the plan that clocks in at more than 300 pages and claims the opposite is true and predicts slower more expensive broad band for all americans. >> the very fact that we have differing views proves my point that we should be transparent and release the plan to the public. you can read it and make up your own mind. >> reporter: lawmakers have been working on a legislative solution something they say will accomplish the goal without giving unfettered power and claim democrats were working with them until the white house actively encouraged them not to. >> it completely contradicts what the president said, not only do i want to listen to your ideas but work with you on the ideas. we are asking you to not only
listen but work with us. >> as with all proposed regulations public comments are part of the process. in this case set a new record for the fcc with roughly four million weighing in easily destroying the previous record of 1.4 million. the irs is apologizing for seizing bank accounts for people and small businesses who structure their transactions to avoid federal reporting requirements. it gave the tax agency authority to seize and hold bank accounts for years without bringing charges. the irs chief says the agency is changing the policy. stocks were mixed today. the dow lost 7. nasdaq gained 13.5. operators of 29 west coast sea ports which handle billions of dollars of goods say the facilities will mostly be closed four out of the next five days.
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the u.s. will send 600 paratroopers to train ukrainian soldiers. that's an announcement that comes as leaders of ukraine russia germany and france are said to be talking right now
late into the night to discuss their options. russia's ambassador told the associated press that some progress has been made. there is new concern about iran's role in supplying weapons to some of the worst of the bad actors throughout the middle east. national security correspondent jennifer griffith has the latest. >> reporter: the explosions rocked in october of 2012. this video from that night shows the factory where iran stored the weapons. >> apparently that was a compound that was properly used as a shipment point. >> reporter: to send weapons through egypt to gaza eight israeli fighter jets reportedly bombed the stock pile in sedan that night. now after an investigation tracing air, land and sea routes to move weapons to hezbollah hamas fox news learned the name
of the key man in unit 190 the cell responsible for arms smuggling across middle east and north africa. unit 190 is made up of about two dozen employees including this senior figure born in 1968 in nest iran. when turkey intercepted containers filled with mortar shells and explosives destined for hezbollah in may 2007 the bill had his signature on it. according to western intelligence sources he runs a network. this hangar in the civilian section of the international airport in tehran reportedly serves as a warehouse. the u.s. treasury has sanctioned front companies such as liner
transport quiche used by unit 190 to transport weapons. >> many times you see the united states government importing sanctions on so-called commercial businesses in iran it is the workf trying to sanction. >> reporter: in january 2013 the u.s. navy and military intercepted 40 tons of antitank and antiaircraft missiles on board a boat, weapons that western intelligence officials say were destined for the very rebels who just took control of yemen's capital forcing the evacuation of the u.s. embassy. >> we know there is a relationship between and we have been clear on multiple occasions about our concerns about the technicals that iran has throughout the region. >> senior western intelligence sources tell fox that the unit 190 is in the process of preparing another shipment of weapons for distribution to its proxys as we speak.
>> live at the pentagon thank you. president obama says all but 100 american troops will return from west africa by the end of april. they have been fighting the ebola outbreak. liberia's president says his country reported four confirmed cases a week ago. at the height of the epidemic it was 300 cases a week. the grapevine is next and why presidential candidates could be cruising down south a little early next year.
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and now fresh pickings from the political grapevine. as we told you florida congressman is not ashamed to say he has no use for the state of texas. he did so during a house floor committee debate last week. >> i don't know about in your state which i think is a crazy state to begin with and i mean that just as i said it. >> very deflammatory statement about my state and i will not stand here and listen to it. >> fine. you do not have to listen. you can leave if you choose. i told you what i think about texas. i would not live there for all the tea in china. >> congressman called on the democrat to apologize. hasting said he would have to
wait until hell freezes over. we were surprised to learn hastings had deep seeded connections to the lone star state. he is an honorary texan. the inscription says he was commissioned to that title 15 years ago. we are working on getting the back story behind this honor bestowed on the congressman. so far we have yet to hear back. a montana lawmaker who wants to tighten the state's indecent exposure laws says yoga pants should be illegal in public. republican state representative introduced the bill to expand current indecent exposure statutes to include nipple exposure including in men and any clothing item that gives the appearance of or simulates genital genitals buttock or pelvic area. he says beige clothing would be
included and believes yoga pants should be outlawed but stopped short of including that in a bill which came about with a bike ride in mu zula where people were nude. we will follow this one. finally parents of middle school students in pennsylvania are turning 50 shades of red over a word search handed out at school. the puzzle was based on the erotic novel and movie and had middle school students searching for such words as -- these are some of the less offensive words, spanking, submissive, bondage and leather cuffs. the school superintendent says she is investigating. if some politicians get their way the south will rise again in the presidential primary season. john roberts reports from lant
lanon an -- atlanta. >> reporter: when it comes to picking a president everyone wants to feel important. the states of the old south are no different. can you really have an impact on the nominating process? >> i think we definitely will. >> reporter: brian kemp is georgia's secretary of state. today's national meeting in washington he is pushing a plan to create a southern super tuesday on march 1, 2016. >> the south is growing. there is a lot of people moving here. we should be involved in the process of deciding who the nominees will be. >> reporter: the plan is to follow closely early contests in iowa, new hampshire and south carolina with a block of states across the south. such a huge pool of voters would attract money, influence and most importantly the candidates. >> we think the next president of the united states ought to come to the south and stand in your door and your business and discuss the issues you think are important. >> reporter: democrats tried to
idea in 1988 in hopes a moderate might sweep the south. jesse jackson played spoiler. the plan back fired and michael became nominee. there are concerns from republicans that it could elevate too far to the right. >> it could be that some of the candidates could get a boost if they are able to persuade voters in the republican primary that they are really presidential material. >> georgia's secretary of state says moderates may prevail and any moderate who can win in the south will have instant credibility with conservatives across the rest of the country. we now know what brian williams' punishment will be for telling tall tales about his involvement in news stories at nbc. fox news media analyst joins us now. good evening.
what are you hearing? >> nbc executives felt they had to hit brian williams with a six-month suspension and describe his false story by coming under fire in iraq as inexcusable. no final decision can be made on his fate because internal inquiry isn't done and expanding to other embellishments. i am hearing that the nbc branch does envision giving williams a second chance but sources say most people at nbc don't expect to see him back in the anchor chair. >> what has the reaction been inside nbc news to losing really its biggest star? >> williams didn't do much to cultivate internal allies which is why you are not seeing even anonymous quotes. his friends are torn about the affection and concerned about the damage he has done. as far as brian williams he is described as devastated,
determined to fight for his job. finally, wanting to apologize again and again. nbc won't allow that to happen i'm told until this internal inquiry is finished. one other media note john stewart is leaving "the daily show." stewart told his stunned audience last night. stewart has been hosting the show for 16 years. president obama asked congress for permission to go to war with isis. we'll get reaction from the panel after a quick time-out. at ally bank no branches equals great rates. it's a fact. kind of like mute buttons equal danger. ...that sound good? not being on this phone call sounds good. it's not muted. was that you jason? it was geoffrey! it was jason. it could've been brenda.
our coalition is on the offensive. isil is on the defensive and will lose. the resolution we submitted does not call for deployment of u.s. ground combat forces to iraq or
syria. it is not reauthorization of another ground war like afghanistan or iraq. i'm convinced that the united states should not get dragged back into another prolonged ground war in the middle east. that is not in our national security interest and not necessary for us to defeat isil. >> president obama asking congress to move quickly on authorization for use of military force against isis as new fox polls come out including this one does the president have a clear strategy against defeating isis? 73% of those polled say he does not. and then how about the job the government is doing in reducing the threat of terrorism from islamic extremists? you can see 67% only fair or poor. with that let's bring in our panel. senior editor of national review. columnist with the hill and syndicated columnist charles krauthammer. what do you think of this?
>> i think he said it pretty much right he is trying to thread a political needle and not a strategic needle. a proper authorization of military force would say we authorize the president to do anything he deems necessary to defeat isis. that is not what this thing is. he is asking for these political considerations no enduring ground troops strikes me as utterly bizarre unless you take into account that he is very concerned about another crusade. maybe to put limits so that doesn't declare retaking of holy lands. the one area where the president is supposed to have maximum latitude. if he doesn't want to have a prolonged ground war don't have a prolonged ground war. why put yourself in handcuffs over this particularly at a moment where he is freaking out about congress doing its duty about the iran negotiations and
talking about sanctions. by all means create this political document that constrains what i can do to fight an enemy of the united states. >> republicans as you heard the chairman say have a problem with the way it is structured in limiting the attack against isis. democrats so far have said it is too open ended and too fuzzy. it seems like it is going to have a tough time going across the finish line in congress. >> to me this serves congress's interests. they never want to say here is a license to go and fight a war. they are very reluctant to do that democrats and republicans. i'm a little surprised at jonah saying the president should have a blank check. i think there are a lot of people especially democrats who say we are not giving a blank check to fight this war. >> and some republicans. >> speaker boehner says i haven't seen a strategy. i am quoting the speaker. i haven't seen a strategy.
he is not a soldier or commander in chief. you would think if he was living up to the standards you would think i will give you that authority. i think you get into a situation here where congress has been reluctant to give authority to any president republicans or democrats and yet they yell and scream. >> the idea of a blank check, the way the constitution is written, it's exactly what the constitution envisions as powers. congress declares war. it gives a blank check and the president is commander in chief executes the war. that is the only way to run a war. this is the equivalent of a declaration of war. yes, the president constrains it in ways which is sort of a reflection of the way he has done all of his so-called offensive operations. he said in his speech at the beginning we are on the offensive. isil is on the defensive. then he proposes here a strategy although of course there are no
details in which he announces this is going to be for three years. he doesn't have to withdraw in three years but what is the purpose of putting a time limit on it in any way? it is exactly the way he announced the surge in afghanistan where the sentence after he announced the surge he announced a date of america's withdrawal. he advanced that date as the election of 2012 approached. what you do is you say we are going to fight the war if you want an end date on it until isis is defeated. >> i think there are some republicans who don't have a problem with the sunset clause because they would have to renew the authorization and in this proposal the president has to come to congress or his administration does every six months to update it. but jonah i think the question is, does this tie the hands of the military? as it is written now? >> as a political document it seems to. basically we don't know.
some of the phrases have as the congressman said earlier have no basis. they are fuzzy political terms. what is an enduring offensive engagement or whatever these phrases are? it basically sends the signal. a declaration of war is not a strategy document. i agree with john boehner president obama needs a strategy. if the strategy is bad congress can hold funding for this or that. if you believe isis should be destroyed he should have authorization to try to destroy it. he is still commander in chief. if he doesn't want to engage he doesn't have to. >> i want to put up these two quotes before we go to break. we are going to continue this discussion on the second panel. the president is in new york talking about isis. the analogy used around here sometimes is if a jv team puts on a lakers uniform that doesn't make them kobe bryant and said i think there is a distinction
against a reach versus jihaddests engaged in local power and disputes talking that week about those areas that were going down to isis in iraq. in the aumf it is worded this way. whereas the terrorist organization referred as the islamic state of iraq and various other names refer to isil poses a grave threat to the people and territorial integrity of iraq and syria, regional stability and national security interests of the united states allies and partners. we have come a long way in one year and one month of this president's assessment of isis. >> i don't think there is any question. they are not al qaeda. i will say that but i do agree that they pose a threat. the question is it a perspective threat in terms of their capacity to grow and become a threat to american national interests. >> grave here.
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the united states and our allies are increasingly concerned with the more than 20,000 foreign fighters we assess have traveled to syria from over 90 different countries of origin. we assess that at least 3400 of these fighters are from western countries. and that number includes also over 150 u.s. persons who have either traveled to the conflict zone or who attempted to do so. >> the foreign fighters increasing director of national terrorism center with that. meantime, in yemen, a situation that is devolving the u.s. embassy in there is now closed. we are getting reports that the embassy personnel left
and they left their vehicles and they have been taken over by the rebels there on the ground. we're back with the panel. charles, you heard chairman thorn berry talking about his concern about yemen as just one of the hot spots. >> look, what just happened in yemen is on the one hand it's sort of humiliating. it wasn't quite like the evacuation of saigon, but it was not it was a kind of withdrawal that was done very quickly weapons left behind and the rebels come in and take the marine side arms. not exactly a pleasant scene. but the real problem is less psychological than what's happening on the ground often two fronts devastating set back. makes access to attacking aqap. al qaeda in iraq. the most active of al qaeda cells in the world makes access hitting them difficult. this is what is overlooked in the analysis.
it is that it is now going to become an ally of iran. the ones who took over the state are closely supported by iran an iran has spoken of turning yemen into hezbollah. iran's way of operating in lebanon. this is the way it once operated in yemen. as you showed on the map, you have got iran now dominating the three arab capitals in the north. baghdad, damascus, beirut, and now with yemen in the lower left-hand corner, you have got a surrounding of all the pro-american states, jordan, and the gulf states by iranian clients. this is a big set back. and it scares the gulf states to death. >> juan? i think what charles just laid out is the reason why you would hope that muslim countries like jordan also engage in the fight also the saudis would themselves put
some skin in the game. get active instead of always relying on the united states to come in and serve their interest clearly they are afraid of raven too. they are afraid where dominate the region. yet they always rely on the united states. >> sure, it's under the umbrella of the u.s. negotiating with iran on this nuclear deal. and what they perceive is a pull back and leaving a vacuum in the middle east by the u.s. >> that certainly hasn't happened yet. they are all fearful and i think especially israel is fearful that the iranian deal will concede too much. and that's a concern. what what we are talking about in the moment in dealing with isil and dealing with this takeover in yemen which essentially it was local politics. it was the rebels against, not against the united states, i mean, there is no analogy to saigon. >> sure. >> this is again, damaging to our ability to the ability of the muslim world as iran gains strength.
>> in the region though no more u.s. embassy in yemen. in libya, closed down. somalia, syria, obviously haven't had one in iran for quite some time. >> right. >> and this not to go too much back to the amuf this raises another problem with the amuf. when you put a three year limit on it, it really signals to a lot of people in the region how unreliable the united states may be and how uncommitted seeing this through. obama end wars not to start them. we have two years left with obama. he does not seem like a guy who wants to fully engage in this fight no matter what facet of it there is he said in that interview with vox.com which you talked about last night that he sees terrorism as the way, a big city mayor views street crime. street criminals don't take over our embassy and don't declare they are going to create a global caliphate. more on this continue
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