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Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20240604 07:54:00

Automatic handgun. handing over everything was the question. who would ve wanted marilyn dead? detectives knew from the moment linda disappeared, they had accused the ex-boyfriend, jr, from harming linda. it became a nasty feud. they even tried to get restraining orders against one another. but the judge denied their request. which was when, maryland s attention, seemed to shift. after about january 2001, when jr and her had no more contact with each other. and she totally focused on dave. detectives knew that the whole time knew, that she had been feuding with dave and rosemary over visitation with jordan. pat said the reason that marilyn asked her friend renee with her to drop jordan off. is that she filled a confrontation with dave. she felt there was safety in number. she recalls an earlier issue when she was on the phone with marilyn, and dave showed up unannounced at her house. she let him in the house. which just blew me away. but she wanted him to feel better. havin

Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20240604 07:57:00

She had been at home with the kids, when marilyn dropped jordan off. ever look at morals mary as a coconspirator here possibly? she had custody of the child to. they could ve been in on it together? sure. but just because she is who she is, doesn t mean she s excluded as being looked at. obviously, she is not the man running from the scene. we know that. but could she be involved in? it could she be planning it with them? detectives had already talked to rosemary, of course. but there was another potential witness at that house. what did she know? how old are you, jordynn? seven. seven years old. my goodness, you re growing up quick. they sat down for an interview the day her grandmother was killed. she told the detective that her mom, rosemary, greeted her at the door when marilyn dropped

Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20240604 07:34:00

and you never left your daughter or your other daughter? you just took care of them all day on all night? yeah. the detective also interviewed rosemary, dave s wife. i have a karaoke dj business. and sunday night, i was working. dave, she, said was home with the kids. so you got home about one or 1:30 and he was home? yes he was sound asleep. so both dave s wife and gianna s girlfriend said the two men were at their own homes the night that linda disappeared. and despite all that blood, there was still no conclusive proof that linda was even dead. we have no body, we have no evidence of anything outside of the entryway. and certainly the only two people that might be looked at the ex-husband in, the ex-boyfriend both had alibis. kind of clinical in terms of suspects that you can pick at this point? there would ve been nothing to separate the strength of their alibis at the time and the reason to distrust the rosemary and no other evidence

Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20240604 08:26:00

Him at home when all three women were killed. he pleaded not guilty. in a recorded call from jail, told his friend mike that he was counting on his daughter and wife to defend him. i want jordyn to be a witness on my behalf. and i need rosemary. i really need rosemary to be my witness to. otherwise, you know, we were team once, we need to be a team again. dave had a big surprise coming. did he ever. coming up, rosemary dark and dangerous secret. how do i look my daughter in the eye and love the rest of my life knowing what i know? when dateline continues. every day i prayed that they would remove it. my tip is be careful what you wish for. that chest tube hurt a lot more coming out. then it did going in. (announcer) you can quit. for free help, call 1-800-quit-now new emergen-c crystals pop and fizz when you throw them back. and who doesn t love a good throwback? [sfx: video game sound] new emergen-c crystals. throw it back.

Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20240604 08:42:00

Dad was innocent. to testify about that interview that she gave at age seven. i said, is dad still at his meeting? she says i do not know. that is number one cooperation for when rosemary comes forward later and says that david watson was not home. being a seven year old, i probably wasn t very clear. of course. but, i have no memory of that. at all. and she told us, her relationship with rosemary was never the same. after rosemary started expressing doubts about dave. did any of that get to you jordan? did you start to turn these ideas running your head? or is there something to this? she really tried, i ll give her that but no, knowing my father i really don t feel good to go as far as to kill a woman. don t let the helpful, fire kept an image full uses the ross occasion. dave s training, they, said was exactly why he is capable of killing three women.

Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20240604 08:36:00

Argument over childcare arrangements, that rosemary said that everything came to the surface. the moment that it hit me, was when i said please don t make me take you back to court. and when i said that, he took off his sunglasses and said don t [bleep] with me rosemary. and it did. it scared me. did you feel scared for your life at that point? i linda, marilyn, i might be next here. what s going on this guy? there was a moment yes, i did. after the confrontation. she confided in her best friend. who urged her to call the sheriff s department. she met with an investigator. and i told him straight out, i said i lied. both times. and i think as we went through a conversation, you know, it kind of ended with i never believed you anyway. but the alibi had gone up in smoke? yes. and there was no turning back. it was the truth.

Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20240604 08:34:00

And quickly. and he said wash those. i m getting in the shower. and he made a beeline for the shower. and then when the investigator showed up at the door? he clearly stated. been home. and they ask you directly, was dave here? yes. you told him a lie? i absolutely did. i followed dave s lead. but rosemary said her insides churned. it really took a took on me, physically and mentally. just everything terrified me. gave terrified me, he handed me knowledge that i didn t want to know. i didn t ask for it. i didn t want it. and he left me there, holding it. and it became a very heavy burden. is this where your marriage becomes unraveled with dave? it definitely starts. there it never was the same after that. it never was the same. the dominoes, said rosemary, quickly began to fall. dave s behavior changed. and he had an affair.

Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20240604 07:08:00

Nudged my friend and settlement ago ask him to dance. and i m gonna be like. her name was more rosemary, and she ran a successful karaoke business in town. and she is quite an entertainer i guess? yes. she says if you want to be successful in this business, you have to sell it. they fell for each other hard and fast. their shared love of music. the outdoors. and, little jordan. he loves jordan. very much. i knew when i met him he definitely had, you know, parenting time with her. and it would go back and forth between linda and dave. rosemary also had a daughter from another relationship. and in june of 2000, she and dave took the big step of blending their families. had my daughters by my side, he had his two good buddies and we took our vows and celebrated with everyone around us. linda also seemed to find happiness in a new

Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20240604 08:32:00

Now suddenly all this is happening. he said i m home, and i m like. he s home. so no walk. he was home all night. that was her story and she stuck with it. although, privately, she said. she couldn t help but turn things over in her mind. and at one point, even confronted her husband. what i said was please tell me that you are not involved. that that this has nothing to do with you. what do they say? i didn t do anything. and that was enough for me. and i said, okay. and so, three years past. rosemary gave birth to her son. adopted jordyn. and battled over visitation rights with marilyn. and then on may 8th, 2003. the investigators were at the door again. marylin and renee had been shot. where they asked, had dave been about 8:30 that night? dave and rosemary as we know said he had been at home. but, the truth?

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