substantial republican politicians. they have been in the same room and had arguments before yet they are both pros. they will be able to be civil and cordial. bill: we ll wait for romney s message when he s in texas next. we have more on what the latest numbers might mean when we talk with former rnc chair ed gillespie under president bush. martha: let many go back to this issue of libya. moammar qaddafi is on the run right now. no one seems to know where he is. his wife and three children managed to escape. they are act border in algeria. meanwhile rebels are pushing towards qaddafi s hometown of sirte. it s a haven for qaddafi loyalists. but rebels take on two of qaddafi s men. there are new reports they are
bloodshed. jenna: when is the last time you heard from either side? oh, recently. and you know, this is a constant contact. and i would say that unfortunately, this continued prosecution of the war by nato does not serve the people of libya. and there s you know, we re seeing even more intense bloodshed right now. this whole thing in libya has been done wrong. we should have never intervened in a civil war to begin with. and we should have never chosen sides. the people of libya have a right to self-determination, but i feel that what the united states and nato has done is go opposite in that direction and it s as if we don t have enough things to worry about here at home. jenna: i d like to talk more about the details of the plan that you have to resolve this issue in just a moment, but since you say you ve been in constant contact with both sides, i m curious if you have any indication of where qaddafi is right now. no, i don t have any idea. and if i there s no way that i d
was last seen south of tripoli where he was attending meetings, kamis, his boss, has now been killed here, but that is indeed the last sighting of colonel qaddafi and the search continues, gregg. gregg: dominic di-natale, thanks. jenna: democratic congress man democratic congressman dennis kusinive has said been invited by qaddafi to help the solution. you ve been invited, you say. why didn t you go? first of all, it s a little problematic going to meetings where bombs are dropping everywhere. i have supported the african union approach towards trying to resolve the conflict, and also, came up with my own plan as a result of my involvement, and also, challenging the war in the congress, i ve been contacted by people who have ties to both sides, and you know, there are people on both sides who want this resolved without further
regime include at least a couple people who are very close to qaddafi, as family members. now, you know, it s not for me to choose who would be the interlocutors, who would talk to each other, but as a member of kug, seeing my own country involved in a war that is unnecessary for america to be involved in, once again, we re picking a nation, trying to tell them how they should govern, trying to tell them who their leader should, that s a dead-end for the united states, and i m saying it s time we stop these kind of wars. it only leads to more problems for america, more expense, money we can t afford, money we should be spending creating jobs here at home. so i m very adamant about trying to come up with a nonviolent solution, a peaceful solution to this conflict that involves bringing both parties together and letting libya handle its own affairs. jenna: you say unnecessary, but also illegal, according to what the administration has done, as far as moving forward. absolutely. jenna:
in the skill and precision of our brave forces who helped the libyan people finally break free from the grip of moammar qaddafi. jenna: your reaction. well, you know, we always support our troops. but it has to be said that libya spends about $1.5 billion a year for their military. the united states spends close to $700 billion. was there ever going to be a different outcome? i mean, we have a population that s 50 times the size of libya. most people don t know libya is only 6 million people. so the question of whether the united states could conquer libya has never been a question. that s not the question. the question is why should we be doing it. and the president has never answered that to anyone s satisfaction. jenna: congressman kucinich, nice to have you with us, we ll continue to have this conversation as the complete resolution of libya seems not completed at this time. sir, we look forward to having you back on again. thank you very much. gregg: oil prices on the