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Cannon in florida. so she would be aware of what was happening in d.c.. they said they did that in sealed proceedings. they made sure everyone was aware of what was going on. and then judge boasberg did the right thing, just to say, you know what? before you make a decision, as to what is in your interest, i want to see that youve talked to somebody who is conflict free. they went to the federal defenders, and our experience, really wonderful lawyers, a lot of people think just because theyre fr...

Know what? before you make a decision, as to what is in your interest, i want to see that youve talked to somebody who is conflict free. they went to the federal defenders, in our experience, really wonderful lawyers, a lot of people think just because theyre free, somehow theyre not good. they tend to be really excellent council. thats what you saw happen. what youre putting your finger on, and what is unfortunate, this is so common in any case where there is a crime thats committed by a group....

Interceded to say, you should at least speak to independent counsel before you make a decision that you want -- >> that seems like a critical step. >> that happens in mob cases a lot. of course, what happens, as soon as get independent counsel, and advises them the persons like, oh, now ive got it. this person may not have my best interests at heart. they may be passing on what im saying to somebody else. and all sorts of concerns. thats why, more often than not, especially when the government i...

But the law allows for that. the law also allows for, you know, the top dog, the employer, whatever it is the mafia boss, to pay for counsel for his employees or his lieutenants. that is all allowed. the law presumes the ethical conduct of lawyers who are officers of the court. >> thats the mistake. presuming ethical conduct -- im not going to besmirch all lawyers everywhere. as someone who has seen lower level defendants flip, if im carlos de oliveira or even walt nauta in this case and i see m...

Integrity, here the chief judge in d.c. interceded to say you should at least speak to independent counsel before you make a decision that you want to -- >> thats a critical step. >> absolutely. by the way, that happens in mob cases a lot. and of course what happens is as soon as somebody gets independent counsel and advises them, the person is like ah-hah, okay, now i get it. this person may not have my best interest at heart. thats more often than not especially when the government is saying t...

Decision as to what is in your interest, i want to see that you talked to somebody who is conflict-free, and they went to the federal defenders, and in our experience are really wonderful lawyers. a lot of people think just because theyre free, theyre not good. they tend to be really excellent counsel, and thats what you saw happen. and what youre putting your finger on and what is unfortunate is this is so common in any case where there is a crime thats committed by a group and theres a real hi...

The same way that in mob cases, people talk about the boss, they say im ordering you to murder someone. you can say, well, they were free to speak. that doesnt make it their language any less illegal. here, they really focused on specific conduct at issue. i think youre going to be steering way clear of those kinds of first amendment issues. >> i want to play a little bit of sound from trumps lawyer, john lauro, speaking with savannah guthrie on the today show this morning. its like they havent ...

Seems like, well, how full testimony is he giving. is that fair? >> im glad this is coming out in this case, because this is a very common practice. its not inherently illegal. it happens all the time. corporate cases a lot of times the ceo or the corporation pays for everybody. mob cases like i used to, the boss would pay for everybody for exactly this reason. absolutely, though, what it does is it makes it much more difficult to cooperate. a, because youre going to have a conflict of interest ...

>> does it make it -- i had not even grappled with the idea that that would actually be used as evidence in terms of the inter linkage and relationship between donald trump and the january sixers. but does it make it harder to try the case if there is this attempt to normalize what happened on january 6th? does that complicate, for example, the jury pool? i just wonder if there are dynamics that work in reverse. >> yeah, thats a great question. because, the last time i saw something like that, i...

Same process. but i do think, part of law -- he has lived a long time without this being being called to the carpet on it -- i think thats going to happen. >> does it make it -- i had not even grappled with the idea that that would actually be used as evidence in terms of the inter linkage and relationship between donald trump and the january sixers. but does it make it harder to try the case if there is this attempt to normalize what happened on january 6th? does that complicate, for example, t...