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Joining me now is a senior advisor to move on.org. great to see you, as always. >> hey, joy, great to see you, as well. >> lets go through this biden gambit because there are two ways to interpret it. one would be he so badly wants to be president that he wants to have stacy abrams as the human dangled to say look, look, if you let me have this thing you want, you can have her as my apprentice and number two or that he sees himself as a stabilizing figure but recognizes people might be concerned...

Have to deal with his record on the crime bill that doesnt take away from that. i think he has to seriously come out and when he runs, whether with a v.p. ticket or not, he really has to say hey, let me address these issues of my past. my record on things ive said is not going to go away. i dont think shes a buffer for that. >> senior advisor to move on.org. thank you is much. >> thanks, joy. joining us is nbc news presidential horn tore yi presidential historian. >> thanks. >> it didnt work w...

I covered move on.orgs rise to prominence when they opposed george w. bush. interesting what they see with turnout coast to coast and if they address president trump is miami this afternoon. >> heather: lets see if they come close to the 10,000 number they expect. thank you so much, griff. >> bill: bombshell claims from the former f.b.i. director andrew mccabe telling 60 minutes that rod rosenstein was not joking when he suggested recording the president after the firing of james comey. >> to be...

Taping? absolutely. but she didnt go out on the steps. she didnt call a rally and use that language the way trump has done. >> its interesting, move on.org. but the thing, i think thats important to know. move on is an activist organization. its a progressive activist organization. thats where she said it. you know the president of the united states was dropping f-bombs in front of the speaker of the house. >> thats exactly right. >> cursing against senior lawmakers in a setting about his mind n...

Same mechanism when i was running. it wasnt for a campaign issue, he could have, but he didnt. with 2020 on the hoorize on, move on.org has a straw poll, showing beto orourke topping the list with a narrow lead over joe biden, rounding out the top five, bernie sanders and ckamal harris. why do you think harris is lower in the group. >> i think move on or the activists, people that knock on doors, people that give small donations, what surprised me is one, not that beto was at the top, that was...

Welcome back, everyone. joining us now, co-founder of axios, mike allen. good to have you with us this morning. what is the one big thing for us? >> the axios one big thing, beto 2020. so the happiest loser in america, beto orourke, congressman from texas who, of course, lost that texas race the ted cruz but is the hottest topic as we talk to people about potential 2020 democratic candidates. there was a poll out yesterday that showed him at the top of the field from think progress. why is that?...

Not compromise. 31% of democrats and 63% of independents say trump should strike a deal. meanwhile the same poll shows only 28% of adults in this country feel building the boarder wall is an immediate priority. while 19% say its not an immediate priority but 50% say its not a priority at all. and in his bid to need a boarder wall. >> people are pouring into our country, including terrorists. we caught 10 terrorists over the last very short period of time. these are very serious people. >> the ...

Independents and the ability to drive out big turnout among their own people. and you add to that the fact that betos was able to generate excitement around his everyday actions. he was live streaming all day, very much the town hall sensibility that you get at new hampshire or iowa and he could get people to tune in for a live stream of him doing the laundry. >> doing the laundry. >> he topped the move on.org poll. how about a biden take /beto tin 2020? >> it depends on who is on top. >> let me...

Boogie man, was funding the caravan. it turns out that the video was apparently not even shot in honduras but in guatemala. trump is now threatening to call the military to guard the southern border, to cut off aid to those countries and tear up the trade deal he just signed with mexico if they dont stop the caravan, all of it designed to revive a now familiar animus toward immigrants that helped propel trump into the presidency. joining me now, senior adviser to move on.org. tiffany cross, mana...

>> ex-friend on my list. >> you all send me your e-mails and youre very angry at one another. its serving us well. what im asking you is this, when it comes to pompeo, youre right he did very well because he checked so many of the boxes. as secretary of state you know that people are saying its a different set of job requirements, his being very hawkish. the things that he said about people of a very major religion in this world, that he states an aggression that there are suits in this country ...