boondoggle for big pharma, but how many people died because they doesn t get that? because they didn t talk about all the other ways that you could, you know pete: it s really insidious, when you think about it. rachel: it s so evil. pete: it is a follow the money type scenario. how far people willing to go to enrich themselves. the consequences to other people s lives be damned in this particular case. and not just a follow the money thing on the vaccine side, but also on political donations. i mean, to remind you, in the midterms the founder of ftx spent almost $40 million and over 90% of it went to democrats. it feels a lot like an insurance policy should his scheme fall apart, which it now has. will: directly lobbying, directly donated to the politicians in charge of the regulatory environment which would have overseen ftx. he wanted regulation, and he wanted to own the regulators. rachel: i think we need to get