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train stations in both cities as well as major department stores. >> this group has decided to walk in and stage another die in. it's been another fluid night. these demonstrators are determined, they say, to have police reform in new york city and show them that the spotlight will continue to stay on this story for the days and weeks they say to come. >> it's unclear what tonight will bring but for some the hope to be heard without violence is the loudest. >> it is calm right now. we know that some people are trying to plan a protest at 5:00 tonight. >> and dan, some officers had gotten -- received some injuries? to what extent? >> that's right. we are told that two police officers received minor injuries. >> so outrage and disbelief over the lack of indictments have been expressed across the country for the second straight week of pro football players speaking silently. today itd was the member of the cleveland browns wearing the simple message, i can't breathe. what are people thinking and feeling today? >> the demonstrations here in new york have continued throughout the weekend. we have seen more intimate crowds here. just goes back to what we saw in berkley, california. we caught up with some carol singers. they call themselves justice carollers. others say they are dreemg for a mixed chris mast. caught up with one of them in the crowds who is a professional opera singer and said it was important for her to come out and show her support for eric gardener. >> i'm singing tomorrow night so maybe they will fire me if they see me using my voice out in the cold. i'm very happy to take a risk. it's no risk. it's a terrible situation. >> this must be very important for you. >> it is very important, yes. >> we're expecting another demonstration at about 15 p.m. there was well over 100 protesters that marched through the streets. they flooded a toys r us and went straight for the toy gun section and staged a die in protest there. so far we have not seen demonstrators out here but they will be coming and showing up and they are determined to keep this story out there. >> all right, nick, thanks so much. we will be watching. appreciate it. syria said it came under attack by israeli war planes. this time a warehouse near the airport was reportedly targeted. we continue now overseas where a defense secretary chuck hagel is defending the special ops mission that ended with the deaths of both hostages. it was the united states third attempt at rescue mission in recent months. u.s. secretary hagel pushed back at suggestions that there may be significant problems with with the planning of the raids. an immense amount of timing and research goes into each of these operations. >> fred, u.s. officials say that this mission ultimately failed not due to operational error but because that element of surprise was taken away. the mission extremely risky and urgent when u.s. intelligence shows american luke somers would be murdered by saturday morning. the president authorizes the rescue giving no hint to the drama about to play out. two v-22 osprey touchdown, some six miles from the compound where the hostages are held. but suddenly everything goes wrong when they are exposed, maybe by a barking dog. one terrorist runs back inside and shoots both hostages. u.s. forces kill five terrorists and the rest flee. a combat medical team needs to spend a half hour on the ground trying to stabilize the two gravely wounded men. one dies on the way and another dies on the ship. >> you have to look at this from a surgical point. some will live, some will die. >> as word of the failed rescue mission, the president called the killing a barbaric murder. biden promises that the u.s. will be unrelent. >> the women and men here did an incredible job and inflicted serious damage on the captors. but this time -- this time they were unable to save luke. >> we're told president obama monitored this mission from the white house, following along with every step in realtime. >> let's talk about the president's health. >> well, president obama has acid ae flex. this is what the wouz is telling us. he saw the white house doctor and there was an indication he had some inflammation in his throat. it was recommended that he go to the hospital for a ct scan. we are told this was done out of an abundance of caution. of course there are still a lot of questions that remain. the president is a well documented former smoker. he has quit. but it does bring up questions whether potentially his history of smoking put him at risk. here is what sanjay gupta has to say. >> if he is still smoking, we don't know. if he is, then that could be contributing to his current symptoms of acid reflux. based on his past history and this is an abundance of caution. we hear the scan was normal but you have got the history of smoking and symptoms of acid reflux. a cat scan could be being performed to be sure there is no other mass. that is the sort of abundance of caution. you want to look at that area very thoroughly. >> and an official tells us that the condition has had no impact on the president's routine or schedule over the last few weeks. we will hear from president obama in just under an hour. >> that's always a lot of fun. appreciate it. oversees, a typhoon battles the philippines. we look at how bad the damage is. n drink. >>clear huh? 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>> yes. >> reminders of what happened here a little more than a year ago are hard to miss. they are also potent symbols of the bitter lessons learned. the most important of those, to get out of harm's way and to get out early. >> nearly 50,000 people fled to evacuation centers, churches and schools. private families took strangers in. most voluntarily, some forced. in the end, the typhoon did a little more than brush the area. damage limited to localized flooding x, downed trees and roots ripped. the parish priest says people have resigned themselves to the fact that storms will always be a part of their lives. >> is it the will of god or the wrath of god? but now, no, it is just part of nature. >> a part of nature they pray won't revisit the city any time soon. >> and cnn impact world is keeping track of charities helping on the ground there. to find out how you can contribute, go to cnn.com/impact. >> former president george w. bush looking ahead to 2016. what he says about his brother or his sister in law making a run. an explanation after this. >> while the u.s. government is releasing six detainees from the beg kwa guantanamo bay detention center, candy, you talked to congressman mike rodgers, a chairman of the house intelligence committee about this report. what's in it and what is the chairman saying about it? >> we don't know for sure but we could take a guess. officially it's not that but none the less it's an investigation into the cia and its activities during the bush era. we expect to hear what the u.s. specifically did with terror suspects. we also with expected to hear although not by name about countries who helped the u.s. detain and interrogate prisoners. sometimes those countries are chosen because they don't have rules about torture. what does mike rodgers think? mike thinks it's a very bad idea to make this stuff public. >> this is a terrible idea. our foreign partners are telling us this will cause violence and deaths. our own intelligence community says this will cause violence. this is more than just differences on what happened. then they have to ask what good will come of this report. >> let's talk of presidential politics for a moment. we know bush is pushing his book about his dad, 41. but it seems at every turn his brother keeps coming up in the interviews. he made it clear he was anticipating the question. >> i was asking him one question and he said oh, is this a jeb question? he's used to it. you can get mixed up because you're talking about 43 as the son george bush is called who is writing a book about 41 and being asked questions about 45. 43 has absolutely no idea whether jeb wants to be 45. >> he's not a guy -- he will say yes or no when he feels like it. >> you have often referred to bill clinton. your mother and father. and he's your brother from another mother. what does that make hillary clinton? >> my sister in law. >> do you think your brother could run against your sister in law? >> yeah, and i think he'd beat her. >> she's formidable. >> very much so. no question, so is she. >> so you will take that bet? >> absolutely. >> of course you're not going to make it because you're an objective newscaster. >> if i think she will run? i have no clue. but i know this, like jeb, she mows what it's like. >> another time i asked him a question about jeb and he said oh, you know, if i have to reiterate it, run jeb run. >> i have a hard time believing that george w. and jeb do not talk about it. >> i know. and he doesn't cautalk to his father about whether he should go into iraq but i do believe it. i don't think they talk family business at the thanksgiving dinner table. >> already. we will leave it there then. always a pleasure. >> thanks. >> and a washington post burro chief in iran is now facing charges. what we know about his case coming up. huh, fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more on car insurance. everybody knows that. well, did you know genies can be really literal? 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>> i don't remember how oldthat monster was at the time. i remember i was innocent and very excited to get a call that i was going to be, you know, offered this job on the cosby show. i went for it. he was a married man. he wouldn't do anything to me. >> when bill cosby did reach out to you in 1992, what was the conversation? what was the pick cher he painted for you that you said he's the connection i need for it to go further? what was promised? what did you believe would happen? >> i believed the tone of his voice? how are you? i am going to offer you a part on the cosby show. i want you to fly here and get here, you know in the next day or two. i took the bait. >> you were excited? >> i was rearing and ready to go. he said i hear you want a singing career. i can help you with that. i was met by bill and a ja man who worked for him, he was his musical director. i remember him saying to me at this dinner when he offered me red wine. what kind of man offers me red wine when i get out of rehab. >> he knew about your situation and how potentially fragile you were at the time? >> he called me in rehab. he knew what i was in rehab for, for alcohol. that in zits is really messed up. >> at what point did you find yourself alone with mr. cosby? you custed him but things went a different direction? >> i was alone with him and i had menstrual cramps. he said oh, i have got something for that and he gave me a pill. >> did you ask what it was? >> i don't remember that. i don't remember. but he's giving me a pill. i trust the guy. i trusted bill cosby. >> why did you feel like you trusted him? >> because of his demeanor and the promise of a career i trusted him. i wanted a television career. i had had a successful career for commercials and i wanted to take it to the next level. >> you are telling me you were in rehab. you were still very fragile. he offered you wine. that was a no no and now he offers you a pill and you still trust him? >> it was red wine. it was a bill. when i started to black out i had a polaroid camera on me. that's when i took several photographs with it. i remember shooting the pictures and having them on me the next morning. i blacked out and cosby mounting me like the monster that he was and i was thinking what the heck was that? i remember more specifically waking up and that he there was a lot of pain downstairs. there was semen all over me and my bottoms were audiotape and the tops were open. i just packed up and i got the hell out of there. >> what was going through your mind at that point when he came to you and you had this discovery? what were you thinking and feeling at that moment? >> i remember being extreme ly angry that i had been violated. i remember feeling disgusted at him but more importantly i was disgusted at myself. i should have gone and reported it to the nevada police. you know, but i wasn't thinking. i was only thinking of stuffing it inside an area so deep in my subconscious that it is now coming up and i am soaper today through the grace of god and i have crystal clear memories of the entire incident and this rape. i'm not out to get him. i'm out to tell my side of the story so i can protect any woman in the world against this monster bill cosby and against anything or that could rob innocence like mine has been taken away from me. >> how do you prove that when it's your word against his? >> i should have gone the police. i was too embarrassed and disgusted. can i prove it? i can't produce a stain on my pajamas and i can't produce the semen that was there. i didn't go in for an examination of my womanhood down there. i didn't rape counseling or any of that. had i known i would have. look how it's blowing up now on me. i am not lying. you were not there. i can prove it. put a lie detector test on me and put a lie detector test on the attorneys and put a lie detector test on mr. bill monster cosby. >> how much has hearing from the other women who alleged sexual assault by bill cosby how much has that assisted you? how much does that also help you in recalling in detail what happened to you in 1982? >> i remember the memory and being robbed of my innocence and i believe the women that i have not been in contact with. i believe their story because it was the exact same thing ha happened to me. as an individual woman, i am the world's first super model and this took place in 1982 and it took place in a hotel room in lake tahoe and he was wearing a bathrobe and a velvet hat and a gold watch. i didn't do the right thing. i didn't report it or go to rape counseling and you know what? i was afraid. but i'm not afraid any more. i'm now strong and i have support and i will go on with my story until my last breath. >> whone of the most recent accusers -- >> i don't like that word. >> why is that? >> i am not an accuser. why am i the bad person that got raped? >> if he chooses to speak on his own and he has after an appearance and i do have a portion of what he said. he said i know people are tired of me not saying anything but a guy doesn't have to answer to inknew when does. >> people? screw you, bill. you know damn well that he's not going to take any responsibility on this and neither are his attorneys. he says innuendo, i say rape. >> what does bill cosby need to do? >> know know as well as i know that they will not take responsibility. they say i'm a liar. i would love for him to come out and acknowledge that he is a big and has raped me. >> thank you. >> i'm sorry. >> don't apologize. you know. >> i don't know how to process this. i do not know how to process these emotions, you know? i'm going to meditate and go to church. this has affected me. >> and we did ask for permission if it was okay to continue airing that portion of the interview and she did say it was all right. in the meantime a lawyer for bill cosby responded to the claims. her story is a lie. there is a glaring contradiction between what she is claiming now and what she wrote in her own book and what she told the media back in 2002. she did an interview with the new york observer entitled interview with a vamp contra diktding her story about ms. cosby. i did speak with dickonson's ghost writer and he began working with dick inson in 2001 on her book no life guard on duty and dickinson did give him graphic detail but he never included it in a written draft to the publisher because he said without corroboration from cosby, he knew the allegation would never have made it through the vetting process and make it in the book. don't miss the special, cosby show, a legend under fire. we will be right back. i've had surgery, and yes, i have occasional constipation. that's why i take doctor recommended colace capsules. 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you wrote dozens of stories about this but this does undersco underscore. >> it turned out to be a real. >> we are talking about the discovery of this t-rex and while the pail yentologist thought great. let's collect it,remove it and take it elsewhere. it's federally enforced land, native american land and they negotiated with the landowner but then that was done illegally? >> the fossil was sold for $5,000. what the federal prosecutor determined was that morris williams did not have the right to sell. >> and that was the landowner? the souix tribe? >> the indian owner of the land did not have the right to sell his land unless he had permission from the department of interior. >> which he did not for the $5,000. >> he did not have permission to sell his own land. the other part is they ruled the fossil was land rather than personal property. >> interesting. because it had mineralized and the thought and feeling was because of that, it was indeed a fossil. but the other thought is no, it's real estate. >> nobody really knew how good it was. the question arises if they had taken the bottle outside of the ground, would have it have been personal property? that is the weird legal facet of this that nobody anticipated. >> and the legal battle is what is so fascinating about this documentary. ultimately, that landowner did receive more than $7 million. in that factor the legal bottle was resolved. >> and a half was decided, the investigate of the black hills institute continued and later there was a massive criminal indictment which turned out to be the largest criminal prosecution in the history of the state of south dakota. >> incredible. >> that's going to do it for me. thanks so much for being with me. much more news and everything else in the newsroom straight else in the newsroom straight ahead. hey matt, what's up? i'm just looking over the company bills. is that what we pay for internet? yup. dsl is about 90 bucks a month. that's funny, for that price with comcast business, i think you get like 50 megabits. wow that's fast. personally, i prefer a slow internet. there is something about the sweet meditative glow of a loading website. don't listen to the naysayer. switch to comcast business today and get 50 megabits per second for $89.95. comcast business. built for business. >> hi everyone. you're in the cnn newsroom. we are waiting to see if violent and dangerous protests return again tonight. a sense of calm has taken over as the protesters are making rounds around the country.
United-statesNew-yorkPhilippinesNevadaIraqSouth-dakotaIranIsraelBeverly-hillsPhilippines-general-CaliforniaSyria idf, but officials inside sere wra say israeli warplanes hit targets near damascus today. in a moment we'll talk about what -- about what we know about that and what will happen in terms of relations between israel and syria. question number three, will the u.s. face fallout from its botched military raid in yemen? two hostages including one american were killed. it is a question of whether it is the time for the united states government to reconsider its policy and should the u.s. negotiate for american lives of people being held hostage? question number four, will we learn more about "rolling ston stones "account of an alleged gang rape at uva? the magazine quietly issued an updated apology for the article. they changed their wording. which many say was blaming the victim. meanwhile this week, a senate subcommittee will hold a hearing on law enforcement's response to sexual assaults on college campuses across this country. and finally, question number five, who will take home the biggest prize in college football? the list of likely heisman trophy winners is pretty short. one name being mentioned louder than others. who is your pick? we're going to talk about that coming up as well. we begin with this tonight. a sense of calm returning as choke hold protesters made a lot of noise across the country last night, but how long is this calm going to last? syrian government officials in chicago, several churches say that targets inside of syria held peaceful demonstrations right near damascus were bombed right after their sunday services today. today by the israeli air force. some of the parishioners laying on the ground motionless in a human rights group on the different locations. ground there agrees they say a also in the nation's capital, crowds descended on chinatown warehouse was the target and the blocking a major intersection syrian military area outside of there. police told drivers to turn damascus. no confirmation or denial from around. traffic was at a complete sta israel. they have not said anything. standstill. ben wedeman is live in jerusalem still, many people are on edge after last night's bloody with more on that. >> reporter: israel launched two rampage in berkeley, california. that's what you're watching. air strikes on targets in syria sunday according to state-run things got out of hand there. media in damascus. cops in riot gear were using around dusk sunday, two strikes tear gas guest protesters. took place. you even had some injuries, one near damascus international blood spilling on to the street airport where according to the syrian observatory for human there. let's go straight to dan simon rights, which monitors events in live for us in berkeley. dan, it looks calm behind you, syria, the target was a storage but boarded up. that's the result of what happened. the vandalism that happened. facility. the second strike was near the town of demas on the road from >> reporter: exactly right. damascus to the lebanthese bord. we're in front of a trader joe's, and the store had its windows smashed in last night. there were no casualty, only material damage and went on to of course, as you know, berkeley is known for its protests. say that the israeli attack was designed to lift the morale of the terror groups primarily the it's famous for. all the way going back to the '60s, why the situation last night turned violent, we don't nusra front in the islamic state know. other than to say it appears after the blows they've received that there was an anarchist from the syrian army. israeli officials declined to fashion within those protesters comment on these reports. according to police. there was some splinter groups israeli media is noting, that started out peacefully however, that in his weekly cab enough, but at some point, people in the crowd became unruly and started throwing ne cabinet meeting sunday, israeli bricks at police officers. prime minister benjamin officers responded using tear netanyahu said israel is closely gas and fired rubber bullets and monitoring the middle east and what is happening with open eyes then things really became and ears and a lot is happening, chaotic. they hit this trader joe's. he said. we will stay informed and we they also hid a wells fargo bank will deal with these unremitting threats and challenges. israeli analysts suggest that branch down the street. also targeted a radio shack where we also saw some looting. these words may have been an here's what some of the store employees had to say about that. oblique foreshadowing of the strikes on syria later in the >> next thing you know, that window breaks, that window day. it is widely believed that started breaking. these two windows break. israel was behind a series of air strikes on targets inside and it's like people -- syria since early 2013. the strikes are believed to be >> a guy with a crowbar comes in targeting advanced weapons and starts stealing stuff, as systems destined for transport much as they can get. to the radical lebanese group, >> reporter: six people were hezbollah, a key syrian ally arrested. five adults and one juvenile. which has provided fighters to there were a couple of minor the syrian regime in the ongoing injuries. we're told that two police civil war. ben wedeman, cnn, jerusalem. officers received minor injuries. one of whom had a dislocated >> ben, thank you for that shoulder. but nothing too serious. report. let's bring in phil, a cnn the question, of course, counterterrorism analyst, also tonight, poppy, is are we going to see a repeat of the big former cia and fbi analyst. crowds? let's talk about this strike, and if, so how might the not confirmed by idf yet. protesters react and what type that's typical. idf usually isn't going to say of tactics might police use? anything about this. you do not read this as israel poppy? >> i'm wondering that, dan. have the protesters from last joining the coalition force night talked to you and said fight against isis. >> no, i think this is part of a they think the police handled it correctly? did they think it was excessive much older fight going on for in the police response? many years. do you know if the police are you have a couple potential going to use different tactics targets. syria is a military adversary tonight? >> reporter: first of all, it for israel. remains to be seen whether we're the second is going to see a large protest tonight. lebanese/hezbollah, beirut we've seen some movement on social media. international airport is the place where iran sends in people trying to get protesters weaponry for hezbollah. out at 5:00 tonight, but at this weapons going down from that airport into lebanon. >> in temples of whether we are point, we don't know if we're going to hear anything from going to see those crowds. what police plan to do, they haven't released that to us, israel, "a," do we think we will, would it be typical? there are some people who are and "b," bigger picture, in this complaining on twitter, complaining on facebook that police were overzealous in trying to get the protesters to unstable region, what is syria move back. and assad going to do about it. then again, you did have >> i don't think the israelis protesters start throwing will say much. they've done this in the recent projectiles at the police. so police would argue in that past. this is is not without precedent. assad is going to come back and situation, what are they say this is about aiding a supposed to do? they need to get the crowd under terrorist, as he's already said. this has nothing to do with the control. fight. there's not much he can do about of course, all throughout the it. >> how big is this on the scale of things to be concerned about country, we've been seeing a debate about this. in the region? >> i think racked and stacked what type of tactics should against what we're dealing with police officers use in a in syria, al nusra front, arming situation where the protesters get violent? >> we feel for the businesses. these businesses, many independent businessowners have the opposition, this is a close second. this is way down the line. to pay for the repair and the >> this is way down the line. i want to talk to you about to pay for the repair and the lost business is a as a resu another case we've been following closely. that is what happened in yemen and the u.s. -- the united states trying to rescue luke somers, the american hostage, and that was a failure and the fallout there from that and from what happened. what we know so far in that attempt, and the fact that, you know, these brave navy s.e.a.l.s, the most elite went in trying to rescue luke somers, found another western hostage there. both of them were shot by the terrorists and later died. as we look at this now, what is your take in terms of if anything strategy-wise needed to change? >> boy, i think before we say it's a failure, as an intelligence professional, believe it or not, i look at this as a partial success. do you know how hard it is halfway around the world to gio locate a terrorist cell, find people in time and space, where they are today, and plan a raid for tomorrow? that's extremely difficult to do in a region like this where you can'thuman assets well. >> they hiked six miles. >> the operation didn't work out well, but americans believe after the bin laden operation that they're easy and go off without a hitch. they don't. >> important to point out these men, these forces risked their lives twice in one week to try to rescue this american. i want to take -- have you take a listen to some sound. this is coming from house intelligence chairman mike rogers talking about whether or not we think -- should be rethinking our policy about negotiating. so, listen. then i want your reaction on the other side. >> aqam, al qaeda in the magrahb northern africa, has been taking hostages, contributor to al qaeda in cash payments meaning people were cooperating paying the ransom. when it didn't happen, they to execute their hostages. so we need to understand that this isn't something new. i think the sheer terror of the way that isis does it by beheading certainly has gotten into the conscience of america. but they've been engaged in this practice for a very long time. al qaeda as well as isis tactics. >> so, bob baer brought up in the last hour, former cia operative, he says, look, france is paying not for their hostages and is complicating the entire thing for america and for others. >> look, i think we ought to step back here. we've been at this for 13 years and ask simple questions. forget about the national security side. there are families in america who are losing children to beheadings. i'm not talking about the potential of paying money to a terror group, but do we want to have conversations, for example, as we did with beau bergdahl and the taliban prisoners. >> about a swap. >> about a swap. that's something the white house should consider. >> when you're talking about civilians, not soldiers. >> that's correct. >> bergdahl soldier. >> correct. the civilians, protection, journalists in syria, they might be a better way. again, 13 years into this, i would not support trading prisoners for money, but there might be a whey to trade prisoners for prisoners in a war that's 13 years old. >> so you say you would not suggest still paying a ransom? >> no. >> i wonder if you can talk about for us from the lens of being a former cia and fbi analyst. is it about danger that it puts those on the ground in? >> it's about two things. first, you're funding an organization and these organizations in places like north africa, central africa, the middle east, across the world that are going to use this money to further recruit people. not just to pay for terror operations but to pay for food, for families. you can fund a lot of people in that part of the world with a million bucks. the first you have to worry about is paying for terror. the second thing you have to worry about, of course, are you going to generate further hostage taking? people say, hey, we don't have to raise money by selling oil. take a few hostages. the americans are now paying. let's do it. >> appreciate the insight. you know, and, again, it cannot be overstated the bravery of these s.e.a.l.s that went in. >> horrific operation. >> dozens of them to try to rescue luke somers. relief groups will work to get gifts to iraqi and syrian children, a lot spending the holidays in refugee camps this holiday season. they escaped with their lives but really little else. many of them just the clothes on their back. after the brutal isis fighters attacked their villages. in hopes of providing cheer, samaritan's church is filling 60,000 school boxes filled with school supplies, toiletries, to kids in the refugee camps. donated by families in the united states, canada, and britain. the air lift is on wednesday. also this story, we're continuing to follow very closely, "rolling stone" apologizing for its story about rape at the university of virginia. the main subject of that article has kept silent. though she did speak with the "washington post." we have not heard from the writer of the article since we had her on this program last week. but students, many people on campus, talking about the story. what they're saying. a live report coming up after the break. that it's given me time toabout reflect on some of life'seen biggest questions. like, if you could save hundreds on car insurance by making one simple call, why wouldn't you make that call? 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we look at the controversy and what people on campus are saying. >> reporter: poppy, tomorrow is the start of finals week here at uva, and as students prepare to go home for the winter break, there is concern about the fallout of the "rolling stone" apology. >> honestly, i was terrified when i heard the news. >> reporter: sexual assault survivors like ashley brown immediately began to worry. after "rolling stone" magazine backed away from its explosive reporting of an alleged gang rape at a university of virginia fraternity house. >> whether or not every letter of it happened exactly as it was written, it doesn't change the fact sexual assault is a huge issue. >> reporter: several survivors we spoke to said there's too much tolerance at uva, where rape is so misunderstood, there's even a nickname for it. >> bad experience, yeah, that's the overwhelming euphemism is you had a bad experience with a person or had a bad experience at that party or house or whatever. >> you know what i'm talking about, but i'm not actually saying it. >> reporter: emily powell said she was assaulted by an acquaintance last year. >> i remember crying. i remember crying when it happened. and i remember saying, no and i remember pushing him off of me and then i remember sobbing. >> reporter: according to university officials, 38 uva students reported to the university that they were raped last year. none of those reports led to expulsions, and there's no way of knowing how many more are like emily and didn't report what happened to them. >> you really start wondering, well, is it actually going to do me any good to report? for some people, it's worth it, and for some people, it's not. >> reporter: lira bartell started process of reporting her attack but found it too hard to finish. >> i was having panic attacks on campus. i was literally covering my face with a hood and running from class to class because i was so fearful of running into the person that hurt me. >> reporter: eventually bartell dropped her case but she witnessed disturbing scenes like having to carry friends out of frat parties where she says they were drugged. >> people use words like, oh thar that's the rapey frat. >> the majority of the narratives are, you're not hot enough to get into this party, try a different frat. >> reporter: members of the interfraternity council released a statement acknowledging there is a bigger issue saying "we ask our community does not become mired in the details of one specific incident but rather that we continue relentlessly pursuing institutionalized survivor support." a sentiment university president theresa sullivan agrees with. >> there's a piece of our culture that is broken, and i ask your help in coming together as a strong and resilient community to fix it. >> reporter: welcome words for survivors like ashley brown. >> i think that that attitude definitely existed, but i will say i think that a lot of the greek system is finally waking up. >> reporter: police continue to investigate that alleged gang rape. in the meantime, we talked to friends of jackie, the woman at the center of the "rolling stone" piece. they say it's become clear to them there were inaccuracies in the story, but they do believe something bad happened to jackie. that's now for police to figure out. poppy? >> jackie stood by her story to the "washington post." thank you very much. well, we see the protests in the streets and now we're seeing athletes on the court, on the field, taking a stand, making their voice heard about the deaths of michael brown in ferguson and eric garner in new york. are we going to see more big-name athletes speaking out? that's next in our fast-forward look at the week ahead. here's our new trainer ensure active heart health. i maximize good stuff, like my potassium and phytosterols which may help lower cholesterol. new ensure active heart health supports your heart and body so you stay active and strong. ensure, take life in. it is the biggest price in college football, who's going to win the heisman trophy this year? winner will be revealed this week. a number of big names in contention. oregon quarterback marcus mariota, a favorite. he has a great individuals statistics record and led his team into the new college football playoff. running back melvin gordon of wisconsin is the nation's leading rusher, but he only gained 67 yards yesterday and his team took a beating in the big 10 title game. alabama's amari cooper considered one of the best receivers in college football. receivers almost never take home the heisman trophy. let's bring in our expert, terence moore, he joins us from atlanta. he's the sports contributor to cnn.com and columnist for mlb.com. so, do you have a favorite for the heisman? >> yeah, first of all, forget the latter two. they don't have a chance in you know what of winning the thing. it's going to be marrioiota by bunch. that's because quarterbacks always win this thing. literally 12 of the 14 last heisman trophy winners were quarterbacks. the other thing is he is simply the best quarterback in the country. mariota is. you look at the oregon team, they're ranked number two in the country. take him off the roster, they're barely mediocre. he leads the country in passing efficiency. here, poppy, is what i like about this guy. he throws the ball an awful lot. just two interceptions. that's heisman stuff. >> kind of not fair it's always going to the quarterbacks, but that is not for me or you to decide. i want to talk about a more serious and really focal point right now. that is we have seen even this morning on the field in an nfl game some stars both in the nba, the nfl. we saw reggie bush, the lions coming out and wearing shirts that say "i can't breathe" making a very public vocal statement about the death of eric garner here in staten island and the nonindictment of the police officer. there you also see, we saw derrick rose doing that, his teammates afterwards speaking up supporting him. what is your take on this? at athletes speaking out about their personal beliefs on issues like this? some say, good for them, and others say don't do this when you're with the team. >> this is fabulous, and it really goes back to jackie robinson. a lot of people look at jackie robinson as a guy who broke baseball's color barrier but forget jackie robinson was before rosa parks. he was a sports star in ucla. he joins the u.s. army. then he refuses to sit in the back of a bus in texas in 1944. does that sound familiar? he was arrested, nearly court-martialed. after jackie robinson, you had the examples of muhammad ali, the black power protests, '68 at the mexico olympics. here's the thing, poppy. we went through this dead period. we had players, particularly black athletes afraid to say anything. to be the epitome of that was michael jordan who made the infamous statement, the reason he doesn't speak out is because white people buy shoes, too. mo hopefully we're going back to the future. >> it's interesting, we did hear lebron james on thursday speaking up in terms of urging society to do better. we had magic johnson praising him for doing that. i want to show you some video just in to cnn of fans, we believe st. louis rams fans, burning rams merchandise today around the game. this, think about what happened a week ago, right? some rams players coming out putting their hands up as they took to the field. what do you make of this of what we're seeing here? >> you know what, i'm going to put this in the same category that some people should look at the ferguson riots in. okay? just because you had rioters in ferguson, missouri, it doesn't mean that everybody was rioting. okay? you know how the media -- not cnn -- but how some of the media tries to make it seem like it's everybody. these are just a few rams fans. i hope that does not deter people, athletes out there, prominent athletes from following the leads of a derrick rose or a reggie bush, because these are just a couple of knuckle heads or a few knuckle heads that are trying to intimidate and we should not be intimidated, not on this issue. >> all right. i also want your reaction, it's a good point, right? i mean, video that we show is never emblematic of what everyone is doing or feeling or thinking. listen to this sounds from charles barkley, former famous athlete, known for speaking his mind. fascinating interview with brooke baldwin this week talking about how he thinks the criticism of police in the wake of the grand jury decision in ferguson has gone way too far. listen. >> the notion that white cops are out there just killing black people, that's ridiculous. just flat-out ridiculous. and i challenge any black person to try to make that point. this notion that cops -- cops are actually awesome. you know, they're the only thing in the ghetto between this place being the wild wide west. so this notion that cops are out there just killing black men is ridiculous, and i hate that narrative coming out of this entire situation. >> terence, your response? >> well, charles would have a great point if what he said was true, okay? there's nobody saying in mass, black or white people, that all white cops are out to kill black people. what people are saying is the truth, there are a lot of white cops out there who are shooting first and asking questions later when it comes to young black males. that's been the case for centuries, certainly the last few months we've seen cases from arizona to ferguson, missouri, to the two cases in ohio where the 12-year-old boy and the 22-year-old at the walmart, and dayton, ohio, and of course, new york. here's the thing with charles barkley. he's entitled to his opinion. charles does a fabulous job on the nba telecast. we kind of tend to forget that he's an entertainer, number one, so we might be taking him a little bit too seriously on certain things. >> really? i mean, he was -- he was very set in his beliefs on this one and clearly a topic very, very important to him, but you are, indeed right, charles barkley does not mince his words. you know what, terranc terence, everyone's talking about it. >> what we said about the dead period of athletes, former athletes refusing to say anything. >> good point. >> at least he's saying something. i like that. although in this plarticular case, many my opinion he's a little bit off. >> terence, good to have you on the program. thank you so much. when we come back, the duke and duchess of cambridge are going to have an action-packed trip in the united states. basketball in brooklyn. a meeting with the president. what else are they going to do? 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>> it's going to be a jam packed couple of days. it's all about fund-raising. the widea is to raise as much money as possible for their cha cha charitable organizations. individuals that perhaps their share cause and their passion for their causes. so, really, i think it's a whirlwind couple of days of raising as much money as possible. >> we know that william is going to be in washington meeting with the president. kate will be spending time in harlem with children up there. what is it that they are most passionate about individually? >> i think for william at the moment, certainly he is fighting a crusade in terms of the illegal poaching epidemic. he has said that time is running out for a number of endangered species. the fact he has three engagem t engagements tomorrow centered around conservation and zer zero-tolerance approach, it's quite something he has a meeting with the president. william is second in line to the throne, not first in line. this is an opportunity for him to step up as a statesman, to have this time with the president who's a very busy man. it goes to show the world obama is on his side as well. >> what about the time that the duchess is going to be spending? what is most significant to her? we know that they left their son at home because they're doing so much while they're here. what does she care most about? i know $10,000 a seat for one of those events. >> the event you're talking about, of course, is the gala dinner raising money for their alma mater where they met. that event is tuesday night. it's going to be a glittering occasion. tom hanks is giving the post-dinner address. his daughter attended the school in 2004. that's very important to them. tomorrow we're going to see kate out working with young children, disadvantaged children. they're going to have her gift wrapping at a child development center up in harlem. the children are young, 3, 4 years old. they don't really know exactly who it is that's coming to see them but they're excited to see a real life princess. >> i was going to say, a real life princess. on a more serious note, talk about the press. if we can, roll the arrival. new york city is a place where many celebrities can walk around to not too much fanfare. when you look at the lights and the crowds and the paparazzi there, what is their relationship with the press? how do they feel? about all of this? >> it's an ongoing struggle. it's an ongoing battle. certainly for william you have to only look at his history, what happened with his mother to understand quite why he's so wary of the press. at the same time, he needs them. this trip is all about raising the profile of his foundation, his charitable endeavors. so he needs the media. i think we're going to see a very friendly william and kate n terms of the media for this trip. already there were complaints they were whisked into the hotel too quickly, yet people did say william did stop and pose for the photographers. >> we saw that. >> he did stop and pose. sometimes he doesn't. i think we're toing to see william -- he really appreciates the importance of this trip and the fact that it's very quick. and so he needs the media. >> and needs people to talk about it. we can also understand where he's coming from. who wants to be in front of the paparazzi all the time? no one. appreciate the ek pxpertise. great to have you on the program. thanks for coming in. as that was happening in new york city, today more protests continuing about the nonindictment of the officer in the choke hold death of eric garner. we'll take you live to a report on that straight ahead. 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>> unconscionable. i can't imagine anybody being able to do this, here in the united states in america in a free country. >> in order to ensure that this dinosaur can be carefully packed up, we helped. >> it was pretty clear that hay didn't know what they were doing. these people didn't know anything. i mean, most of these guys hardly go out in the field at all. what do they know about preparing a fossil or packing it or anything? >> the larsons were trying to do a little bit of negotiating, put sue under lock and key at our place to prevent damage. >> i said to kevin schieffer, you just tell me, and that fossil won't go anywhere. it's not like it's going to disappear in a briefcase. >> that request was denied. >> i'm lucky enough to be joined by the director of this amazing documentary, todd douglas-miller. thi this was your idea. i didn't know the backstory of sue. when i watched this i was fascinated. why did you make this film? >> we were actually making more of a larger film about pa paleotology. we came about this story written in a book, peter larson and co-author wrote. i was reading it while we were on the road. so peter was actually just one scientist that we were going to interview and after reading the book and meeting him, we decided to kind of shift focus and just go right -- >> then pete r larcer larson, a scientist who discovered sue, along with sue who's she named after, is described in the film as being in love with the dinosaur. i mean, what struck me was how personal this was for them. to find something so huge in terms of its significance to the history of this world, and to then have it taken away by the attorney general at the time. >> yeah. >> and never to get it back. >> yeah. that was a fascinating aspect for me. there's some key issues in the film that deal with our criminal justice system and federal government. >> he served prison time. >> the world of it. for me as a filmmaker, i was very interested in the personal relationship that somebody could have with, in this case, a dinosaur. >> fossils. >> it became a love affair that lasted, you know, still lasts to this day two decades, you know, after her discovery. >> what has been the -- i know -- well, first of all, most people haven't seen it yet. i got a sneak peek. it's airing on cnn thursday night at 9:00 p.m. but from those -- you did screen it at the field museum in chicago where sue now stands. they paid $7.6 million for sue. what was the reaction at the museum? >> it was -- it was universally positive. everyone there, a lot of the employees, even the volunteers that when you go there show you sue and give the backstory, they didn't even know the story. and there is very little literature or, you know, the plaques that are there don't describe the story. so a lot of these people that had worked there for 10, 20 years, this was the first time that they were, you know, hearing about it. and i think the -- you know, there's been a little bit of pushback from the field museum and embracing the full history of the find. and peter larson and the black hills institute. but i think that's going to change. i think, you know, they have this great asset which is sue. you have this other great asset which is peter larson and hopefully they can work together. >> i know peter larson, his team, folks in south dakota, the town, the black hills institute to this day want sue back. would you ever be able to move her, though? realistically, thinking about how delicate -- >> well, sure, you can move anything. >> but would you want to? >> well, you know, what's important for i think for the people of hill city and for just scientific research is just having not only access to her, but possibly a cast, a replica that can make it back to hill city. wouldn't be the real thing. as peter says, she's in a great home in the field museum. millions of people get to see her. having a little piece of her might be a good thing. >> we might have some of the video clips we can show you, but what fascinated me throughout the film was the fact there is so much archival footage. you have footage of these scientists on the side of the hill discovering sue. you have footage of the auction at christie's. what was it like for as a director to piece that all together? you even have footage of morris williams whose land it was found on, joking about the deal to sell, when he agreed to sell sue to the scientists. >> it was a complete shock. we did this film on a shoe string budget. we knew once they started handing over footage -- our original idea was to reand -ena everything. we didn't know the stuff existed. we were going to do a traditional film. once they handed over the footage, it wasn't that we could hand it over to a team of editors. every time we went, we got more footage, a blessing in disguise. an amazing testament to them, too, how scientifically accurate -- >> that hay documented it. it is a fascinating film. congratulations. you and your team should be really proud. >> thank you. >> i hope every one of you watching watches it on cnn thursday night. good to be with you. thank you. as i said, follow the battle for sue from the black hills to the lake shore of chicago. don't miss "dinosaur 13" only right here on cnn thursday night. 9:00 eastern. we're back in just a moment. you don't think much about it... you never dwell on how it was made... it's just a blanket after all... but when everything else has been lost, the comfort it provides is immeasurable. the america red cross brings hope and help to people in need every 8 minutes, every day. so this season give something that means something. support us at redcross.org it's sleep train'ser: interest free for 3 event!leep! get three years interest-free financing on beautyrest black, stearns & foster, serta icomfort, even tempur-pedic. plus, get free delivery, and sleep train's 100-day low price guarantee. you'll never find an interest rate lower than sleep train's interest free for 3 event, on now! ...guaranteed! ♪ sleep train ♪ your ticket to a better night's sleep ♪ ♪ ah, ♪ h it. ♪ push it. ♪ p...push it real good! ♪ ♪ ow! ♪ oooh baby baby...baby baby. if you're salt-n-pepa, you tell people to push it. ♪ push it real good. it's what you do. ♪ ah. push it. if you want to save fifteen percent or more on car insurance, you switch to geico. it's what you do. ♪ ah. push it. i'm pushing. i'm pushing it real good! the stars come out tonight. taylor swift and jennifer lawrence in the cnn spotlight for the next hour. then the big show you don't want to miss at 8:00 eastern on cnn when celebrities team up with cnn to honor some real life heroes. here's a sneak peek. >> you have the power to do anything. to make a difference. inspire and change the world. ♪ everyday people do everyday things ♪ >> i want to actually still do something for afghanistan. i want to help the people and the dogs. ♪ i know you hear me now >> we're giving them the best present in order to make a better future. ♪ we could be heroes >> i'm here to honor real heroes. >> going to be a great evening. >> welcome to "cnn heroes c: an all-star tribute." >> it's my honor to hug the weightlifter with the biggest heart ever. >> don't worry about what you can't do. never, ever quit. >> it's incredibly humbling to be recognized as a cnn hero. >> this has been an amazing time. >> you're killing me, cnn. got me sobbing all up in my chardonnay. >> see the stars come out to honor the top ten cnn heroes of 2014. 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