"the situation room." always watch us live or dvr the show so you won't miss a moment. that's it for me. thanks very much for watching. i'm wolf blitzer in "the situation room." now let's step into the "crossfire" with paul begala and s.e. cupp. >> christmas eve for me. tingling with anticipation. i'm going to be up all night because if we're good little boys and girls tomorrow morning we can finally open the most wonderful gift of all, my friend hillary clinton's new book. >> wow. i hate to be the grinch here, but i've seen an advanced copy and your christmas morning is going to be a real downer. the debate starts right now. tonight on "crossfire" hillary clinton facing attacks on the eve of her book release. >> clinton's account of the low salt, low fat, low-calorie offering with vanilla pudding as dessert. >> is america ready for hillary? on the left, paul begala. on the right, s.e. cupp. in the "crossfire," tracy sefel,
a clinton supporter, and tim miller, co-author of "failed choices." should democrats place all bets on clinton? will republican attacks on her backfire? tonight on "crossfire." welcome to "crossfire." i am paul begala on the left. >> i'm s.e. cupp on the right. guests with different opinions of hillary clinton. her new book comes out tomorrow and starting a high-profile campaign swing. i minean, promotional tour. she's getting lost in translation. for one, she doesn't speak progressive. just ask one. for another, she doesn't speak millennial which she learned the hard way in 2008. as you clearly see in her interview with abc's diane sawyer, unlike her husband, she hasn't figured out how to speak regular person. >> we came out of the white house not only dead broke, but in debt. we had no money when we got there, and we struggled to, you
know, piece together the resources for mortgages, for houses, for chelsea's education. you know, it was not easy. we had to make double the money because of obviously taxes and then pay off the debts and get us houses and take care of family members. >> dead broke. get us houses. plural. as in these houses in two of the most expensive neighborhoods you can find. so the two most recognizable politicians in america for two decades couldn't budget their money the way americans have to? paul, even you have to admit, this one is not going to go over well in our land. >> we only found the only millionaires in america who the republicans don't like. >> come on. >> in fact, she understates when she says dead broke, they were $12 million in debt for legal bills, from ken starr and the right ring machine that tried to drive them into bankruptcy. thank god we live in a country where they can thrive.
>> hillary had an $8 billion book advance before she even left the white house. you can't budget the mortgage on that, come on. >> worth every penny. in the "crossfire," tracy, first, who advises the ready for hillary pac, and tim miller, - co-author of the new perfectly timed anti-clinton e-book cal d cleverly "failed choices." i've known hillary now 23 years. i love her. i want her to run for president. i deeply hope she does. you should also know i advise priorities usa action which is a superpac that helped re-elect president obama and i dearly hope will elect president hilla hillary. now with that disclosure set, mr. miller, first welcome. thank you for coming. >> thanks for having us, paul. >> i hear this canard from my friends on the right, particularly your organization. hillary hasn't done anything as secretary of state, not an important accomplishment. let me give you the top ten. the toughest sanctions in our generation on iran.
cease-fire. she backed the mission -- we'll get to this. backed the mission to kill osama bin laden. i go on and on and on. i hope we cover all ten of these then maybe we'll do a special edition to cover ten more. let me start with number 3. which is the cease-fire in gaza. hamas terrorists were bombing israel. shooting rockets into israel. hillary clinton stepped in and negotiated a cease-fire. now, i think, of course, good for america, good for israel, good for peace. more importantly, here's what the prime minister of israel says about my friend, hillary. take a look. >> i just had the opportunity to work with her to achieve a cease-fire between israel and hamas. hillary clinton is a strong and determined leader. she's both principled and pragmat pragmatic. knows how to get the job done. >> i'm sure that's going to be in your book. i haven't had time to read your e-book yet. the prime minister of israel. tell me you know more about
israel's security than prime minister netanyahu. >> i'm certainly not going to do that, paul. i will tell you when it comes to israel, on the campaign trail in 2008, hillary promised she was going to support an undivided jerusalem. then she goes to the state department. what does she do? she tries to support negotiations where she points fingers at israel, say israel is the problem. and says in order to come to a negotiation, we need to not have a undivided jerusalem. also on the iran sanctions which was the top thing on your list, when congress tried to past the toughest iran sanctions that brought iran to the table, that got us to this deal, hillary clinton and the state department were over in the senate talking to your buddy, bob menendez saying don't pass these, these are too harsh, these are too harsh. >> nonsense. >> bob menendez -- >> she got the russian, chinese, french, to sign on to the sanctions that delivered the -- >> nicolas sarkozy said it was toothless. >> to the table. >> i think it's a little early to say how those sanctions have worked out yet, but tracy, i'm
really glad that paul brought up israel because i've read the chapter in her book on israel and let me tell you, there is a doozy in there. let me just read. she writes of her first visit to israel "i got my first glimpse of life under occupation for palestinians who were denied the dignity and self-determination that americans take for granted." now, i'm sure i don't have to remind anyone at this table contra chris christie had to apologize for using similar language. is hillary clinton going to apologize to israel for using that same language? >> i hope chris christie is going to write a book. that's the one i should read. let me first say, you quoted from the book and i think tim spent all weekend reading it. i haven't read it yet. it's not out. the answer i will give you is about a bigger issue when it comes to hillary clinton's diplomatic agenda. and that is the way that she has expanded the notion of diplomacy in the state department to include an incredibly important set of issues which have to do with women and girls.
>> tracy, let me just stop you before you -- >> education and health. >> -- don't answer my question. let's take for granted that the quote i read is actually in the book. does she owe israel an apology for using the same language that chris christie used then had to apologize to pro-israel voters and pro-israel groups? >> hillary clinton is going to stand by the words in her book. she is not going to apologize for something she need not apologize for. >> she believes -- >> she will be making that point as she, herself, should. >> so then you think that she believes the palestinian territory is occupied? she's not going to apologize for that and she asserted that on purpose? >> i'm sure that when we all actually read the book and listen to her give these interviews, her words will stand for themselves. >> she said it twice in the book. >> yeah, she said it, but i'll take your word for it that she's unapologetic. >> i'm unapologetically pro-israel and hillary is very, very strong on this. if that's the tree you want to bark up, i wish you luck.
let's move on to another hillary accomplishment which is i think strategically very, very important. the pivot to asia. particularly a couple of things, first off, she was the one -- in the united states, but she was our secretary of state -- stood up against chinese expansionism in the south china sea. vietnam. old enemy of america. hillary sided with the vietnamese, helped back off the chinese. she in beijing freed the dissident civil rights activist and lawyer chen guan dang. were those bad things or can you at least admit certainly in asia she's helped strengthen america, opening up to burma, checking chinese territorial expansionism, standing for human rights. >> i think she worked with mitch mcconnell on efforts in burma. i think obviously she tried to at least give lip service and make some progress in the pivot to asia. here's the thing, paul. what are the tangible results she's going to talk about? i mean, you have this list of ten things you've talked about. first thing on your list is
something she opposed. >> not true. i'm not going to let you get away with that. she is the reason we have sanctions on iran. >> now we're talking rhetorical. >> she freed that dissident. should we give him back? should we give him back? >> no, i don't think so. >> can you say that was a good thing? >> sure, but this is -- >> yes! >> two do you think voters are going to go to the polls -- >> they will go to the polls about the pivot to asia represents her understanding of workers and what the asian economy specifically in china means for the american economy. if that is something she's been unapologetic about and was also forward thinking with the very pivot that professor begala is talking about. >> but, again, none of these things when you look at the big issues that faced her, the arab spring, when you look at what happened in iran -- >> asia's not a big issue? >> -- the green movement, syria, russia, libya, overthrowing gadhafi. where are these tangible results that she's going to take to
voters? saying i pivoted to asia does not count. >> we have to take a quick break. we can get through all those specifics, believe me. >> i have a long list. >> i want to point something out as a political strategist is this. my republican friends are looking at the prospect of a hillary campaign and have plan "a" and a plan "b." i'll let you know their secret strategy next. first, this question. how long did hillary clinton's first memoir, "living history" spend on "the new york times" bestseller list? was it 12 weeks? 34 weeks? or 55 weeks? we'll have the answer when we return.
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welcome back to "crossfire." hillary clinton's new memoir comes out tomorrow. i cannot wait. book sellers have preordered a million copies. actually should not be any great surprise. the marketplace works. her first memoir "living history" spent 34 weeks on "the new york times" bestseller list. if you guessed 34 weeks, you got it right. >> winner. >> i have known hillary clinton for a very long time. i don't know for sure whether she's going to run for president. i'm wearing my knees out praying. i know this. my republican friends have two friends for that eventuality. plan "a" try to keep her from running, while they're launching all these crazy attacks. plan "b" if that doesn't work out, republicans lose to hillary and she doesn't become president. republicans, if you want to avoid plan "b," keep up the attacks like the one abc's diane sawyer asked hillary clinton about. >> mitch mcconnell said at one point, 2016 will be the return of the golden girl. >> that was a very popular long-running tv series. >> yeah.
i speak hillary, tim, and here is what she means when she says that. that was popular in the long-running, she's saying bring it on. i will point out mitch mcconnell who attacked her apparently for that little snide comment is six years older. he's 72 running for a six-year term. hillary is 66 hopefully going to run for a four-year term. this is counterproductive for your side, isn't it? >> let's talk about two of the other questions that happened in that interview. >> isn't mitch mcconnell -- you can get to your shots. you have a whole book attacking hillary. isn't it stupid and sexist for mitch mcconnell -- by the way, again, who's six years older than hillary -- to be raising these kind of snide comments? >> i certainly think there are lots more credible way you can attack hillary clinton and if you look at the interview she did with diane sawyer, only seen two clips. one of them, she talked about how she struggled so much to pay the mortgage when getting an $8 million advance and her husband was selling access to himself and the white house to the highest bidder -- >> not true. it was driven. $12 million in the camp by ken
starr and right wing attack. >> worth $1 million to $2 million. >> what is this, russia? we're not allowed to get rich anymore? >> they haven't developed a widget. they sold themselves. here's another -- >> we're going to talk numbers. 40% of the speeches that hillary clinton is giving are for free. it's for charitable causes. she is raising money. she is out there. she can get paid over $1 million for excellent causes. >> she's a woman of the people. tracy, now, we know you are ready for hillary. >> that's is true. >> not vimeveryone in the di democratic party is. a recent poll wants other democrats to run against her. here's what former governor of montana said about her. he said "you can't be a candidate that shakes down more money on wall street than anybody since i don't know, woodrow wilson, and be a populist." now, he sounds a lot more like today's democrats than hillary does, to me. is he wrong about her?
>> well, governor schweitzer, it's an interesting line for him to go to and isn't the first line he said something like this. what we're talking about when we look biographically, issues involving the inequality. as secretary of state, the notion of inequality for her was a guiding principle in why we needed to stabilize in certain countries, that growing inequalities are actually a grave danger for societies. this is something that has guided her as first lady, as a senator, as the secretary of state. it's been her principle. so inequality, hillary clinton, go back and look at her words to the new america foundation recently -- >> i just think this is going to be a tough sell for her. hillary clinton is going to have the closest ties to wall street out of he candidate in either party. she was getting paid $200,000 per speech by the biggest wall
street firm. the idea she's going to be able to tap into this elizabeth warren movement is pretty ridiculous and doesn't help when she's lamenting her $100 million as having trouble putting food on the table. >> if we're interesting in talking about people who dared to make a living and been successful, it's also worth noting that for her, the charitable events that they're doing is just a part of the story. both bill and hillary clinton have given upwards of 10% of their entire income to charity. a figure that -- >> so did mitt romney. >> -- that absolutely goes beyond -- >> mitt romney bought companies and laid the workers off, took their pensions and health benefits. those workers didn't much like him so they made -- >> not talking about -- >> here's the problem with the theory. it ain't working. let me show you some polls. okay, you guys have been on this now banging hillary for 20 years and especially the last two. not you personally, but the right. here's where she stands
according to the abc news/"washington post" poll. 59% approve of the job she has done as secretary of state. 67% say she's a strong leader. look at this. 6 o% say she's honest. if you got her down so if you've got her down to 59% after only 20 years, you'll get her down to zero in 200 more. you need a new strategy. >> hillary polls the worst when she's in the middle of a campaign, when there's a partisan fight going on, because she doesn't wear well. she didn't in 2008. >> who polls better in the middle of the campaign? >> i was on your website today, and i noticed all the amazing merchandise you guys have for sale. those are water bottles, there's a dog collar, there's a hillary clinton cell phone case. aren't you afraid all this stuff will turn off average american voters, who are concerned that hillary is seen more as a brand
and less as an actual problem solver, who's down in the gritty dirt trying to solve the real problems of the american people? >> the supply and demand issue is a interesting one with ready for hillary. they can't keep the merchandise in stock. there is a clambering by her supporters growing every day. >> the deficit isn't with her admirers, it's with average americans -- >> the idea of hillary as a brand is certainly been an exciting one that people -- >> for her supporters, tracy. >> there's ready for hillary bus that's going to be going around the country -- >> that's what i'm talking about. that branding of hillary did not turn on enough voters in the democratic primary. >> i'm glad that you're giving me the opportunity to say something that i have said many times. if there was an inevitability about hillary clinton, ready for hillary would not exist and i don't know how much more plainly to make that case, so every time
that word comes up, that is going to be my answer. >> i think this whole notion of my party of inevitability is damaging. >> jim messina -- >> the answer to it is, when you right wingers attack her, it boosts her. this talented woman is being attacked. it's great for hillary. >> stay here. we want you at home to weigh in. was hillary clinton an effective secretary of state? we'll have the results after the break, also the outrages of the day. i'm outraged because of some narrow-minded music fans taking the fun out of rock and roll. with centurylink as your trusted it partner, you'll experience reliable uptime for the network and services you depend on. multi-layered security solutions keep your information safe, and secure. and responsive dedicated support meets your needs, and eases your mind.
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welcome back to "crossfire." now it's time for the outrages of the day. thousands of freedom haters have signed an online petition to remove the band metallica from the music festival in england this year. why? because frontman james hatfield is a big-time hunter and nra member and that's, quote, incompatible with the spirit of the music festival, according to one facebook page demanding the band be kicked out. i'm not outraged that fans hate hunters. music has always attracted sank moan yous and self righteous people and they are free to be misinformed about our lifestyle. i'm outraged rock and roll has gotten boring. what's rebellious with the idea everyone has to think alike and support the same causes? what's cool about putting trendy bumper sticker pieties before one of the greatest guitar riffs
of all time? when did young rock fans get so prudish and establishment? good news, all this has helped plug hatfield's new show "the hunt." i'm one fan who hopes he kills it. see what i did there? >> as a hunter, i'm willie nelson and lyle lovett. my outrage comes from my beloved lone star state. the republican party of texas voted to include support for conversion therapy in their state party platform. the idea is this, being gay is somehow bad, so through counseling and some believe prayer, gay people can be made straight. now, interesting, of course, i disagree with it, but it's more interesting new jersey governor chris christie disagrees with that. he signed a law banning such treatments in the garden state, citing reparative therapy can, "pose critical health risks
including depression, substance abuse, social withdraw, decreased self esteem, and even suicidal thoughts." if chris christie runs for president, he's going to have to deal with those who believe you can pray away the gay, but i intend to ask god to bless texas, including texas republicans. that will be my effort to pray away the hate. >> very nice. let's check back on our fire back results. was hillary clinton an effective secretary of state? right now, 56% say yes, 44% say no. quickly, guys, what do you think about those results? >> i think it's heartening and just wait until everyone's actually reading the book and not just tim and you. >> 56% need to go to americanrisingeffect.org. >> for everyone who does, of course, he's making money off it. >> god forbid. >> it all comes back to that. >> thanks to tim and tracy. the debate continues online at
positiveness than negativity. because the negativity can just suck you in. >> i've been there. i'm don lemon. this is cnn. searchers are focusing on areas of debris sightings but weather could interfere for the hunt for the missing malaysian airliner. ukrainian forces leave crimea as the nation chooses a new president. and the deadly ebola virus. one nation has closed its border at the outbreak and fears seem to be spreading. welcome to our viewers in the united states and around the
world. i'm natalie allen. you're watching cnn "newsroom." the search has resumed but planes and ships are facing deteriorating weather. more than 1800 kilometers west of perth, australia. australian officials say one of their vessels has a black box detecter and underwater vehicle. on saturday two chinese ships collected white, orange and red objects from the search zone but none has been linked to the missing boeing 777. chinese airplanes have drooped buoys to mark three sites. the latest on the search. atika schubert live from perth, australia. atika. >> reporter: a number of search planes should be in the search area. also a malaysia c-130 just took
off at the air base and expecting another one to take off shortly and join the search. so they have a little bit more time searching today. the weather in this new search area is much better than the ole one but unfortunately a storm is coming up from the south. so that might affect their visibility but we understand from the coordinating team here in australia that they will press ahead and try to get the most out of the search today. hopefully they'll be able to find something soon. >> right, because the clock is ticking for the flight data recorder. what's the pressure there as far as the time frame goes, atika? >> reporter: there is a bit of a deadline with the flight data recorder and has a pinger that sends out this signal. but the problem is, the battery on that only lasts for 30 days, so what we're looking at is just a few days left, hopefully it stretches out a little bit further but this is why it's imperative for the australian vessel, the ocean shield to get this towed pinger locator known
as a tpl25 out to the area. the problem is even though you have this pinger locator, it doesn't know where to look yet because we don't have any debris field. we haven't found any debris confirmed from the plane so there's nowhere for the locator to really look at this point. but what they're doing can they're trying to bring it out to the area so that at least it will be in position if they do find some debris but at the moment that's all they're able to do, natalie. >> is there any frustration? are they expressing any frustration? we know this is looking for a needle in the heyaystack and they're used to it but we know they want to find a debris field. >> reporter: yeah, i think it's difficult and it's tough but on the other hand, a lot of the search teams we speak to tell us this is how it goes and all of a sudden you see something that can be confirmed. but as of yet we have not found any of that confirmed debris. the good news is that we have a
lot more teams searching in the area, so a lot greater space is able to be covered. today's goal, cover about 300,000 square kilometers and in addition to the planes there are a number of ships there. i believe there are four ships currently there and another six are expected to arrive over the next day or two. so those ships are just as critical because they're the only ones that can really physically pick up the objects on the water and see what they are. they have been able to look at a few but unfortunately none of them have been from the plane. >> have any talked about the size of any of these suspected objects that they haven't perhaps identified as being part of the plane yet? >> reporter: not yet. what we earlier what we were looking at was a lot of satellite images and they were giving estimates on how large some objects were, whether 24 meters or more. the problem, of course, now is that they believe that that was a different search area and that the plane, if it went down was going to be much farther north and since that, since moving the
search area we haven't seen as many of those satellite images with those promising leads. so hopefully the serarch planes will come back with more leads for the ship to follow. >> all right. atika shubert live for us in perth, australia. we thank you. the weather is not looking good in the search area. it is deteriorating. karen maginnis is following that. >> natalie, we were so thrilled that there was that window where the weather was very cooperative for the search. the search area moved from just out of that roaring 40s region but it is not going to be immune from any of the weather systems that are expected to roar across this area over the next several days. this is the way the satellite imagery is shaping up as we take a look through 4:00 a.m. utc but there we've got an area of low pressure off the coast of perth.
there is a ridge of high pressure from the north but other area of low pressure that promises to usher in wet weather, gusty winds so that will kick up the surf and could also reduce visibility. those are the three items that will be particularly troublesome. this is the search area. about 1800 kilometers off the coast of the west coast of australia. and we're expecting monday or sunday going into monday the clouds will thicken up. the winds are going to become a little bit stronger and it looks like thunderstorms are going to impede things there, as well. but not just for late sunday and into monday, it looks like this could also be a tuesday event. now, it may start tapering off then. this is very difficult to obtain data and with the frequency of storm systems, it's very difficult to forecast for this region so a few days out is about as good as it gets, maybe you can go a little bit further
than that. but there you can see the rough weather that's expected to move on in across that region. now, what about the west? we're looking at maybe 60 to 70 kilometer-pour hiv hour gusts. it's not the rain that's the problem. it is going to be the reduced visibility. there's the area of low pressure. here comes some of the showers and this takes you through sunday but then going into monday, there you go, and tuesday, taking a look at that, orange shaded area is where we're looking at 60 to 70 kilometer-per-hour wind gusts and they could be higher. back to you. > not good news on that front but thanks, karen. so these pilots flying the search planes face a number of challenges not just the weather but long days, hard flying and so far, nothing to report as far as being connected to flight 370. still as we learn from atika
shubert in perth their morale seems high and paula newton talked to the captain of a canadian patrol plane about the mission. >> reporter: the location of the mission may have changed but search crews determine to find something, anything in the waters off the coast of perth, australia. >> the three windows. >> they are the main ones used. >> reporter: captain mike mcbetween, a veteran pilot on military exchange takes us on board the p-3 orion sideline aircraft he will fly to the new search site in a few hours. >> these are the main ones. >> reporter: search specialists will scan the waters as it flies 500 feet above the ocean. when they find something they're yelling mark, mark, mark.
>> they're on headset and call that mark and we'll have the smoke and have a reference point. >> reporter: it's still difficult to spot the object a second time. that's just part of the problem for flight 370. >> unfortunately, if you don't find anything, it brings a bit of a disappointment to the crew. >> reporter: that's been the hallmark. crews are confident if they keep looking they will have the capability to find debris and much needed clues to help solve this mystery. what does this plane in particular bring to the search? why is it so helpful? >> with the sensors on board, obviously they're very effective at search and rescue. not only the crew stations but the camera that we have on board
and the radar works really well. it's designed for any submarine so picking up a submarine so will pick up small bits of stuff in the ocean. >> reporter: as captain mcbetween leads this -- >> hope today will be the day. >> reporter: -- his optimism is something that's been a constant campaign yore for crews still searching. >> and, of course, the families of those missing are caught in a personal nightmare and some of them say they're also caught in a web of politics and crisis management. sara sidner has the story of one group who believe they have become captives of the malay authorities as they await word of their loved ones. >> reporter: for weeks malaysian airline officials in kuala lumpur have been protective of the families of those aboard flight 370 shielding them from everything including the media. the families initially appreciated it. but some of the family members
from china now say malaysian airlines staff have gone too far making them feel like captives than guests in their hotel. [ speaking a foreign language ] "i just wanted to come and meet the minister and meet other family members but i was not allowed to leave and they wouldn't arrange transportation. they wouldn't even let me take a taxi. i lost my freedom." [ speaking a foreign language ] >> reporter: tempers flared when the mandarin speaking families were told they could not attend a briefing for the malaysian families. most of the chinese and malaysian families are housed in separate hotels and have separate briefings in their native languages. waiting for details of their loved ones has been excruciating, so with no briefing in mandarin the chinese families ask fundamental they could attend the malaysian briefing. the answer was no. the chinese families balked and even tried to hail a cab and were stopped from doing that
too. about an hour later after some arguing malaysian airlines finally offered to take them to the briefing. but when they arrived at the everly hotel the chinese families were not allowed into the briefing and told to wait in the room next door. finally, with frustrations boiling over, malaysian officials came to them. this is video taken from inside the private meeting as the chinese families met with the ceo, a translator, the transportation minister and his wife. a pregnant woman whose husband is missing begins by asking authorities if they will search as long as it takes. >> can you give her the assurance you will do everything you can? [ speaking a foreign language ] >> let's say he was injured. he's been missing. it's been so many case and there isn't any evidence.
>> reporter: she is comforted by the wife of the malaysian transportation minister. but she reminds malaysian officials that this is not the time to make the families' lives more difficult by restricting their movements. >> translator: please tell the staffs thought to regulate our movements. they cannot handle another shock. please let them be free. >> reporter: already prisoner, the families say all they want is the truth. sara sidner, cnn, kuala lumpur. we will, of course, continue to follow any new developments in this search off the coast of perth, australia. and with the families, as well. there are some big changes taking shape in ukraine's political scene but some voters there don't seem to care. we'll show you why coming up here. also an outbreak of ebola in west africa has world health officials scrambling. dozens have died and officials fear it is spreading.
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something isn't to happen. that's all true about this white house but none of that apparently applies when it comes to trump talking to russia. in that case, notification comes from moscow. the last time trump talked to putin, which -- well, at least as far as i know, was november 21st. the first notification there was of that in the english language that trump would be speaking to putin that day, first english language notification is when reuters translated a notice from a russian based news agency that reported trump and putin would be speaking that day and it was the first any of us in this country heard of it. two weeks before that the big asia trip where the people of united states of america learned the president would be meeting on the sidelines of the asian summit with vladamir putin, and we learned that from a kremlin staffer and american reporters took that information and asked and before that the oval office meeting with president trump and russian foreign minister and russian ambassador and not only informed us in our country that event took place
and russian and and he got our record of those meetings. american media was banned from that event, while a russian state media photographer was invited into the oval office to snap happy pictures, and then distribute them. so that's how we got our record of those meetings. and then again today. we got a nice readout from vladimir putin about a conversation that took place between donald trump and vladamir putin. thereafter, the white house confirmed that, oh, yeah, that happened. why does this keep happening? why do we consistently have to get news about the behavior and the meetings and the conversations of the american president from the russian government? it is very strange. and while we're on the subject, we also got late word tonight from a new report in the washington post that right after trump announced he was running for president, he announced in june 2015 this happened in july
2015, there was yet another instance when he was offered a one on one meeting with vladimir putin, according to "the washington post" tonight, the same russia connected publicist who later set up the trump tower meeting where he promised russian government dirt on hillary clinton to the top levels of the trump campaign, a year before the meeting happened, he made a direct offer via e-mail to donald trump's assistant at trump tower telling her that he would be happy to set up a putin meeting for this new presidential candidate donald trump. trump's assistant is a woman named rona graft, i have spoken with her in the process of trying to set up trump interviews. she's very, very nice. she's very efficient. we had known that graph is on the witness list for the house intelligence committee looking into the russia scandal. "the wall street journal" reported tonight that for the house intelligence committee interview with her, trump's assistant and also and house intelligence interview with
felix sater, a russian born and part of the trump organization, who worked on the secret trump tower moscow project during the trump campaign. republicans for some reason decided that for those who interviews for graph and satyr, they would not do them on capitol hill and decided to send their staffers to new york city to do those interviews in the setting that would be more convenient for ms. graft and apparently also for mr. satyr. having staff conduct the interviews in new york, while actual members of congress are stuck back in washington for votes, i'm sure that is very convenient for those witnesses, but it has the knock-on effect of preventing any members of congress, including democrats, from sitting in on any of that questioning. democrats on the intelligence committee are reportedly not that happy about it. and you've got to imagine donald
trump, jr. being like, wait a second, i run the trump organization. my dad's assistant gets them to come here and i have to go down -- i can imagine it's awkward. a lot going on tonight. one thing we have to keep track of on the show, who works at the white house? this administration is 328 days old. in that time there has been an unusually large number of people who have turned over, who have served in the trump white house for sometime, some of them in very senior roles but got fired or chose to leave for some reason or another and i'm sure that we have missed some but just in terms of high profile jobs, we try to keep a running tally of notable officials that fled or been fired from the trump white house. the vice president's chief of staff for example has left as has the white house chief of staff, as has the deputy white house chief of staff, as has the first white house communications director and second and the white house press secretary and
vice president's press secretary and the deputy national security advisor, the deputy chief of staff on the security counsel and head of the office of government ethics, the white house chief strategists and we found out the deputy assistant to the president that goes on fox news all the time, and we found out he couldn't get a security clearance, he left, too. and also, the secretary of health and human services, he left. that's not even counting the high-profile law enforcement people that have been flung out like acting attorney general sally yates. and the fbi director james comey and the dozens of u.s. attorneys they fired on no notice, get out by midnight tonight. it's a long list of people that served in significant roles who are already gone. well, this week we got two more names to add to the list. one of whom got a lot of media attention for her departure.
her name is omarosa manigault newman. she was the communications director for the office of public liaison, which reminds me the director of the office of public liaison, that's another person that left. can we add that guy to the list, too? thank you. mrs. manigault newman was the communications director for the office of public liaison, which is not a high-profile office, let alone is that a high profile job in that office. the beef with her among white house reporters is that nobody was quite sure what she did at all but she is personally a high-profile person because of her reality show career. her departure this week attracted a lot of attention but there's been one other departure from the white house this week that's attracted very little attention.
but it's for somebody with a much bigger job. her name is dina powell. before her appointment to the white house, she was working at goldman sachs. gary cohen was previously the president of goldman sachs, so when she came on board, it was thought that maybe she would be in gary cohen's orbit. she was named the deputy seek security advisor for strategy demand that role, a lot of normal republicans or even like never-trump republicans, they put faith in her thinking she might be a potentially moderating influence in the administration more broadly but in the national security council specifically. and the national security counsel and policy making in this administration is of particular concern. remember the national security counsel initially was set up by mike flynn and we all know how well that worked out. and remember, after flynn got
appointed, after flynn being appointed national security advisor, the next shutter of fear that went through national security circles is when trump campaign ceo and white house -- the trump campaign ceo arranged to get himself a seat on the national security counsel, as well. remember that? people are like really, steve bannon has a permanent seat on the national security counsel? this is a guy that run as right wing website and makes movies how the "duck dynasty" guy looks like jesus. really? permanent seat on the national security counsel alongside michael flynn running it? i mean, i don't mean to pick on mr. bannon. i know he has had a bad week. alabama was as much his humiliation as the president's. remember, the whole point of bannon stoking the roy moore candidacy was to flex his steve bannon muscles and prepare for a global domination plan to run against every sitting republican
senator like he did with roy moore. well, given how that worked out, the only people that may want to pay steve bannon to enact that plan now are probably democrats. steve bannon is having a bad week. everybody thought he might be this fierce spector in trump era politics in some continuing way. but, you know, if you think before this disastrous failure he had in alabama this week, the last big round of attention he got was when he was fired from the white house. before that, it was the time he was fired not from the white house but security counsel. they demoted him from the national security counsel then fired him from the white house. flynn and bannon were a weird idea for the national security council. both of them. flynn ended up resigning in the russia scandal for things that resulted in him pleading guilty and now he's looking at a potential prison sentence.
bannon left not that long after but those guys had really set up the national security counsel in the first place and once they were gone, it raised the question of what would happen to the people they installed, forgive me, not kind. what would happen to the odd balls that they had installed? what would happen to the free thinkers they had installed at very senior levels of the national security counsel, which is a very important thing. in particular, when it came to dena powell, there was speculation on the national security counsel she might replace this guy. dena powell's title was deputy national security advisor for strategy. his title wasd deputy assistant to the president for strategic planning. that would be like if i came to work every day and i was the host of "the rachel maddow show," but there was somebody
else on staff who was the host of "rachel maddow show." basically we have the same show. i expect there would be a fight to death and only one of us would keep the job in the long run. dena powell was expected to replace this man kevin harrington, one of the original let's call them free thinkers installed in a very important national security position back when steve bannon and mike flynn were in charge of that sort of thing. he came to this very senior job at the national security counsel with zero experience in foreign policy. zero. now he's supposed to be directing strategy for national security for the united states of america? never worked in foreign policy a day in his life, however, he had worked at one of peter teal's hedge funds. peter teal, the anti democracy german born billionaire who made his money at paypal, who bankrupted the gawker website for printing things about him he did not like.
his work experience for running strategy at the national security counsel is he worked at a peter teal hedge fund and before that worked at a different peter teal hedge fund. well, this week we learned that not only did dena powell not end up replacing him, she is now leaving the administration, and he is still at the national security counsel. and we know that in part because "the washington post" reports today in the remarkable epic 50-source story that he, kevin harrington is one of the prorussia officials remaining in the white house who actually supports president trump's compulsive submistiveness toward russia and putin in particular. for kevin harrington, though, his motivation for his pro russia positions is reportedly a little -- it's free thinking. is that the word we're using?
somebody that believes the end is near and only putin can save us. and this is like point 34 that we learn today out of 100 pieces of information the washington broke with this big story. according to the post and this remarkable story, there is an important national security story to tell about the consequences of trump refusing to admit to or grapple with in any meaningful way the fact that russia interfered meaningful in the election that made him president. according to the post's reporting, these are just some of the other important pieces of news they break today. according to the post, the president's daily intelligence
brief is structured by the briefers to avoid upsetting him with any information he might not like to hear about russia. and i have to say this is a piece of reporting that raises troubling concerns whether or not the president actually reads, whether he reads intelligence briefings. quote, a former senior intelligence official familiar with the matter says russia related intelligence that might draw trump's ire is in some cases included in the written assessment and not raised orally because then you can be sure he won't see it because it's written? the post also in this new piece today describes an extraordinary, what they call extraordinary cia intelligence that captured putin's specific instructions to attack the election. the stream of post election intelligence about putin apparently has given the intelligence community information that putin believes the operation to go after the election last year was quote more than worth the effort. that would suggest russia will
keep trying to do more of it but the post reports that trump has never convened a cabinet level meeting on russian interference or what to do about it. in terms of the national security counsel, one official said there is an unspoken understanding within the nsc that to raise the matter of russia is to acknowledge its validity, which the president would see as an affront. after the new national security adviser, h.r. mcmaster brought in an expert, trump demeaned and insulted her in a way hard to believe for what we know about this president and his white house quote in one of her first encounters with the president, an oval office meeting in preparation for a call with putin on syria, trump appeared to mistake fiona hill for a member of the clerical staff. handing her a memo and instructing her to rewrite it.
when hill responded with a perplexed look, trump became intimidated for not listening and mcmaster followed her. she's the russian expert on the national security counsel a legit russian expert who was brought into the national security counsel post the flynn and bannon debacle. just remarkable. we've got greg miller here to talk about remarkable reporting including the damming and brand-new revelation even though they got caught planning to unilaterally lift sanctions and congress got alerted to that fact and blocked them from doing it, even after those efforts were exposed by congress and press and became a subject of great scandal in washington, after that, the administration and secretary of state rex tillerson continued to offer the russians in secret that the
trump administration would help them out on sanctions. that they were happy to give them back some of what obama had taken away in punishment for them hacking the election. remarkable, remarkable reporting from "the washington post." greg miller joins us next. ♪ give ancestrydna, the only dna test that can trace your origins to over 150 ethnic regions- and open up a world of possibilities. ♪ save 30% for the holidays at ancestrydna.com turn up your swagger game with one a day men's. ♪ a complete multivitamin with key nutrients plus b vitamins for heart health. your one a day is showing.
>> that is true and i can bear eyewitness testimony. [ laughter ] >> bathroom diplomacy and thanks to extraordinary fly on the wall, fly on the wall, reporting from "the washington post" we know lbj is not the only american president known to mix business with bathroom. this is a section from today's reporting that's about the president's negativity toward nato and our nato allies particularly german chancellor angela merkel. quote, his demeanor with the german leader was in striking contrast with the encounters with putin and authoritarian figures. who were the three guys in the world he most admires? president xi of china, the president of turkey, and putin, said one trump adviser. they're all the same guy. merkel has never fit into that trump pantheon. before her arrival, senior white house aids witnessed an odd scene that some saw for the visit.
russia news is not put in the oral briefing, only the written brief or buried so it won't upset him. are the briefers concerned about this? intelligence agencies concerned about this in terms of the president not having access to this information? >> i mean, so the answer is sort of yes and no, i guess. the intelligence officials we talked to emphasize they are not holding important developments out of the briefing. they are professionals. the daily brief is written by career expert staff. they aren't going to do that. this is their job and mission and a sworn duty one official told us but the way it's structured undergoes -- they think that through to avoid upsetting trump, to avoid getting the briefing off as you just read as one of the people voted off the rails by raising something that's going to upset him directly. they do this in a couple ways. one is to put sensitive stuff in
print so that they can say yes, we delivered this to the white house and not withholding but not calling it out orally in his presence but adjusting the order or adjusting areas of emphasis and rachel, this is not the only example in our story today of how senior aides or senior advisors tiptoe around and our story talks about what one advisor calls the five and a half foot rule on really sensitive stuff likely to upset him where you have a consensus among lower aides to avoid carrying those decisions into the oval office out of fear you'll get an interruption from him or an overrule of something that others already agree is sensible policy. >> greg, let me ask you about another type of sensitivity in terms of the president and russia information.
back in june, i think you were one of the reporters in the washington post story about an intelligence bombshell that was delivered to then president obama that included sourcing deep inside the russian government that detailed vladamir putin's direct involvement in the campaign to disrupt and discredit the u.s. presidential race, and that intel included putin's specific instructions. the overarching theme of your story is about the president being unwilling to engage with this information that russia interfered in the election. do we know if president trump seen that bombshell intelligence reporting detailing specific orders from putin? >> absolutely. that's one of the things we reported today is is that when the senior intelligence officials travel to new york after trump won the election but before he was inaugurated on january 6th this year, they laid out for him all of the most highly classified components of
that intelligence case. this was one of the most critical pieces of evidence that they put on the table for the president. and as we wrote, these officials included former director of national intelligence jim clapper were worried that they were going to be thrown out of the room. they were prepared for a blowup and that ends up being a very subdued meeting and trump seems to go along with this and seems oddy acquiescent on this. they regard this as progress. he's coming around to accept this but as they over a period of several days continue to try to lock that in with him, he gets very agitated, starts railing how the intelligence can't be trusted and for him to admit this would be to fall into a trap and there forward, they never recover what they felt they had in that moment.
that acceptance of the case. >> can i ask you just one follow up question on that particular point about that very sensitive intel, obviously, there is a lot of drama around the idea the cia has information that reflects putin's words and instructions in terms of ordering this campaign or discussing this campaign. is there any concern among the intelligence community that discussing sources and methods like that about somebody close enough to putin to get that information that there might be a concern in a security concern for that source in giving that information to the president, given his relationship with putin? >> you know, that's a really difficult question. we've asked intelligence officials about that. i heard officials say they do have those concerns and there is that hesitation but that the president is the president and it's not -- and their job is to inform the president, the elected president.
that is their duty. >> very difficult stuff. compelling, compelling reporting. these are difficult issues. the heart in your throat stuff. greg miller, again, congratulations on this piece today. thanks for being here. >> thank you very much. >> a lot more to get to. busy night. stay with us. ♪shostakovich playing ♪
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republicans control the house with 239 seats shown in red. democrats have 193 seats shown here in blue. there are three vacancies, those are little gray ones down front. of the 239 red seats in the house right now, a chunk of the red squares are republicans that are nervous about last year's elections because a chunk of the red squares represent districts where hillary clinton beat trump. they picked the democrat for president that happened in 23 districts across the country and is that must have been exciting on election night. if you're one of the growing red squares thinking about election, that has to be worrying. anyone can concede in the 23 districts, the political wins are blowing in the democrat's direction for next year. those are places that supported hillary clinton. republicans are worried about those seats. but here is the chart part.
come election time, if the wins continue to blow in democrats direction the way they are right now, those 23 will not be the only vulnerable seats that are keeping republicans up at night. since the 2016 election, there have been 68 contested special elections across the country for seats in state legislatures, in -- there has been a few u.s. house races and the senate race in alabama and watching the races play out is fascinating on the individual level but also fascinating in terms of the trend they represent. turns out it's not just alabama. if you look at the presidential results, a lot of races all across the country show democrats making really big gains. if you look at the results in the special elections since november, on average, democrats have improved margins by ten points. so compared to november, if that ten-point swing means if they won by two points in november, they're winning by 12 now.
if they lost by 15, they are within five points on average. put the chart back up there. come election time in 2018 when every single one of these squares is up for reelection because the house is up every two years. if the winds keep blowing the democrat's direction the way they are now, democrats would grab not just the 23 red sheets where voters went for hillary clinton. a ten-point swing would have democrats flipping another 39 seats, as well. if you apply the average ten-point swing democrats have been enjoying in special elections since november, if that momentum still applies to races next year, that swing will have nancy pelosi measuring the drapes in paul ryan's office. a ten-point swing would cut republicans in washington off at the knees. so if you are a republican in congress right now, what these special elections are doing to you, they are giving you a horseshoe size lump in your stomach now. if republicans lose the house
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in a very conservative corner of iowa. if you're chuck grassley, that counts as a change in the weather. the day after those elections, chuck grassley announced that he would no longer support two of president trump's most controversial nominees for judgeships. after that announcement from grassley, those nominees got pulled by the white house. then a similar dynamic played out last night with another trump nominee. this time at the epa. the president's nominee to lead chemical safety at the epa spent his career fighting against chemical safety rules on behalf of companies bound by them. he's gone now, too. he withdrew last night after two republican senators came forward, something changed their minds. they decided they were no longer going to support him. outright rejection of the president's nominees of the president's own party is a new thing in the trump era.
turns out alabama senate elections have consequences. if you're a lawmaker and the president can make or break you by offering or with holding support that might factor into your decisions for supporting some of his embarrassing nominees. but now that they keep getting solidly rejected at the ballot box by the voters in red states, maybe the president's opinion doesn't matter to you as much. tonight, republicans are racing toward a vote on the big tax bill that the president is very much behind in theory they should be able to get this thing passed with just their own votes. tonight, that's looking wobbly. senator marco rubio announced he'll oppose the republican tax bill unless it's expanded -- unless it expands a child tax credit and followed by utah senator mike lee who is undecided on the bill, too. senator bob corker voted against the bill the last time. a no from rubio and lee would be it. it would be done. whether rubio and lee are ready to torpedo the bill remains unclear.
it doesn't seem like they are the only republican senators ready to balk. could this week's republican disaster in alabama lead to furtherer bleeding among republicans on capitol hill for a very, very unpopular piece of legislation that the president nevertheless wants? hold that thought. remember how the economic crash was supposed to be a wake up call for our government? people all across the country lost their savings, their pensions and their jobs. i'm tom steyer and it turned out that the system that had benefited people like me who are well off, was, in fact, stacked against everyone else. it's why i left my investment firm and resolved to use my savings for the public good. but here we are nine years later and this president and the republican congress are making a bad situation even worse. they won't tell you that their so called "tax reform" plan is really for the wealthy and big corporations, while hurting the middle class. it blows up the deficit and that means fewer investments in education, health care and job creation.
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republican tax bill, either out at your representative's office in the district or capitol hill, today brought news that the republicans may have lost the votes among their own senators to get this thing passed. senator marco rubio and senator mike lee both republicans said they will be no votes on the tax bill unless it's changed in ways they like. is this thing potentially really at risk? joining us now is reporter siobhan hughes. she's within covering this on the hill. i appreciate your time. >> happy to be here. >> i'm trying to do the republican math here. we have questions of rubio and lee. three others as far as i know, corker, collins and flake haven't committed to supporting it and then cochran and mccain with health issues and seems like a lot of wiggle room in terms of whether the republicans will have the votes. do you think they have the votes? >> the most likely scenario is that republicans pass the bill but today what we saw is that it is no longer impossible for this
bill to be sunk. the math you described is a problem for republicans because they can lose no more than two votes and still pass this bill. you have listed far more than two republicans who can potentially be against this bill. >> in terms of the timing here, one of the things that i think has frustrated people who are against the bill or worry about the implications is they're going fast with it, a huge change to the tax code. they didn't spend time debating it and there's no external constraint that forces them to pass it so quickly. is it possible that they're going to have to spend more time either waiting for a score on this or horse trading on this that it might push it into the new year where the math would change against them after doug jones is sworn in? >> it's highly unlikely, but again, you can't say. so far, the senate we expected to vote on monday no longer has that on the schedule. vice president mike pence delayed a trip to the middle east to be here to cast a
tiebreaking vote. there is the delicate issue of the health of senators john mccain and thad cochran. they're wild cards, x-factors and then the question of how you come up with the money for the extent of the changes senators lee and rubio want. that's $80 billion, not easy to find. >> they $80 billion change and the whole thing scored to add trillion and a half dollars to the deficit anyway. are they constrained fiscally they can't add more to the debt without changing something else fundamental about the bill or couldn't they just put that on the tab? >> no. you are right. they're constraint is 1.5 trillion and held themselves to that and now stuck with that number so they have to take something away from somebody else and you can imagine it ruffles feathers and don't know where they'll get the money to appease people. >> we've been watching protesters and constituents making heartfelt, very compelling to my mind at least
personal cases to senators like lisa murkowski in alaska, susan collins in maine, a lot of senators who might conceivably be on the bubble about this with personal pressure. is there a sign they're being moved by those kinds of appeals by constituents? >> so far there isn't a sign there would be a move, because these republicans are dedicated to the notion that on balance what they are doing is going to be better for people. one little wrinkle today is rod blum a member of the freedom caucus, an iowa republican, put out a tweet saying he was listening to his constituents and trying to make recommendations about what should be in the tax bill. seats are like that are looking at risk. mimi walters of california has had jitters and there's some of that but maybe not enough in the senate to change minds. >> siobhan hughes, thank you. appreciate it. >> thank you. >> all right. we'll be right back. lower back pain has met its match
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that vote today was strange for a couple of reasons. one is that it directly overturned a decision that same commission made under three years ago. the fcc reversed itself on a huge, huge issue with implications for every internet user which is almost every american. and huge implications for every telecom company in the united states. reversed itself in a span of less than 36 months. the other reason this decision today was weird is because what they did today is wildly unpopular. like, toenail fungus unpopular. i should mention here that msnbc's parent company comcast is one of the nation's largest internet service providers and when we're talking about human beings, there are no human beings in favor of what the fcc did today. corporations are standing to profit for it, sure. actual humans, very few. the fcc made the decision despite the massive unpopularity and despite the fact that yesterday 19 states attorneys general asked them not to do it
relationship with trump. did this break campaign finance laws? let's go outfront. good evening. outfront tonight, shutdown victory. president trump taking a victory lap as more than 30 democratic senators join all republicans in a vote to end the three-day shutdown. the house voting moments ago to end the impasse. the deal was done in congress and it was done by senators. that's who made the deal. the president was silent. today president trump only issued a brief statement which said in part, quote, i am pleased the democrats in congress have come to their senses and now willing to fund our great military, border patrol, first responders and insurance for vulnerable children. the short term spending deal came after mitch mcconnell, declared his quote, intention. intention to hold a debate on the dreamers in the come weeks. that's it. intention to hold a debate in a few weeks. there's no formal mechanism to
repeatedly brought up this three-day bill to keep the government open but to force dedicated negotiations. not two or two and a half weeks with doing nothing and then negotiations. >> you're saying it's only going to negotiate two or three days. that's the point you're making? >> absolutely in was all supposed to be done since october 1st of last year. the republicans were too busy with that health bill trying to destroy health care for some 30 million americans and the tax bill, which plundered the national treasury to deliver a trillion dollars to richest americans. they couldn't compel themselves to deal with the fundamentals of governing. a spending bill addressing children's health care, addressing community health centers and the opioid crisis. >> let's talk about this issue. sarah sanders pointed out that's not only in this continuing resolution but that other things in it are also things that democrats like you care deeply about. here she is.
>> i think democrats realize that the position that they have taken was indefensible and they had to focus on first funding our military, protecting border patrol agent, funding vulnerable children through the chip program. these were things that they didn't disagree with. they agreed with everything in the cr. >> she brings up funding vulnerable children. doesn't she have a point? >> our three-day resolution, continuing resolution also had the chip in it. we've been fighting since last august to get this bill on the floor. this was forged and bipartisanship. it should have passed last september instantly. they held it out as a bargaining chip in a shameful practice of holding 800,000 children hostage. >> you're saying that you plooef senat -- believe senator mcconnell because he made this promise to people of his parties.
kamala harris told reports she does not believe mcconnell made any real commitment to deal with immigration. do you think she could be right or you truly do trust mcconnell? >> i do not trust him at all. he has promised lindsey graham and susan collins, jeff flake. made promises, commitments that he has not honored. however, realize republicans control the presidency. republicans control the senate. the mcconnell has decided to put the amendment box where we put amendments so they can be brought up on floor. he's decided to put his amendments in and lock the box so no democratic amendment can be considered. that's why we couldn't put up be bipartisan understanding we had with many members of the republican party for consideration. in that type of control we realize our leverage is modest. we do hope to hold mcconnell accountable for this promise but i'm not sure that we will
succeed. >> you're being honest here saying your leverage is modest. you don't trust him. let me put it to you straight. the congressional black caucus leader said they're getting their butts kicked. talking about you guys. is he right? >> we wanted to attach the dream act and opioids to a must pass bill that would get to the president's desk. we failed in that effort. now we're on plan b. it did work in 2013. we're going to carry that battle forward. >> thank you. i appreciate you. our senior political analyst is out front. mark, i have to say at first he tried to say the promise was to lindsey graham by mcconnell. he's trying to be optimistic but i thought he was more frank later in the interview. our leverage is modest. i don't know if we'll get
anything. he said we're going to hold them accountable. i'm going to throw something out. senate democrats did house democrats a big favor by agreeing to this. allowing house republicans to pass this bill, this cr, this continuing resolution for a couple more weeks. it allows the house democrats, all of them who are up for re-election to take a stand and vote against it. >> that's interesting. i guess it's long term, short term strategy when it comes to the midterm. let me ask you, the president. i played the ad where it's illegal ill grammigrants. the white house is trying to say an outside group did this. hee here he is speaking specifically about dreamers and during the
campaign to talk about the tale of two trumps. >> it should be a bipartisan bill. it should be a bill of love, truly should be a bill of love. >> i will immediately terminate the president obama's illegal executive order on immigration. immediately. >> we're talking about dreamers for other people. i want the children that are growing up in the united states to be dreamers also. >> mark, look. you put that together with the ad and you hear senator the murkley saying we don't know which president is going to show up. which president is going to show up? >> who knows. depends what happens tonight. a republican said this to me who is no fan of stephen miller said stephen miller is the last person that whispers this his ear and that's why we're in this problem. republicans are not happy about this. if you look at polls we know that overwhelmingly the majority of americans want the daca issue
fixed. they want to take care of these dreamers. there's that small group of hard liner, specifically stephen miller and some cases the chief of staff who are whispering in trump's ear as well as senator tom cotton and that's why he's stuck on this. nobody knows how to negotiate with the president because they don't fwhoe wiknow who will com door. >> are they the ones pushing hard line on immigration and winning? new pressure to release a controversial memo in the russia probe. trump's bragging about low unemployment among african-americans. does he and will he get the credit at the voter box?
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it's not laughing matter. it's a serious question. you heard that just discussed. former white house counselor to clinton. also our newest political commentator. paul, let me start with you. you heard sanders say stephen miller is not running the show. do you buy it? >> no. we thought the show was going to be the apprentice. it turns out to be who's the boss. i was honored to serve president clinton in the white house. every president has to defer on some issues. say if this was agricultural policies, he has an agriculture study at purdue, i think it would be wise to defer to secretary purdue. this is the president's signature issue and on it he has said many times, that he would
sign legislation to regularize the dreamer status and he's flip-flopped because stephen miller, the staff yanks it back. we know who is running the show down there and it's president stephen miller. >> steve. >> well, i would say to that paul as long as we're talking television shows, when you say president stephen miller, i would tell you that's as laughable and fictional as the show barney miller. >> i'm thinking of a purple dinosaur. >> anyone who observes, which is everyone in america, president trump knows whether it was from the apprentice, candidate trump, president trump, knows this is not a man who cedes authority and control. i have the privilege of knowing him personally. the idea he would give up control to a second president or a pseudo president is laughable in its face. what's really going on is the left realizes that they lost in this showdown over the shutdown.
what are they trying to do now. they're trying to create a boogeyman in stephen miller. here's the problem. president trump ran unambiguously on a program of controlling the border and reforming our immigration system as candidate. he was elected primarily probably on that basis and now he's following through on it. he may be out of step with the mainstream media. he's not out of step with america. >> i understand you all disagree on the power he has. even republicans like lindsey graham says stephen miller has that power. sometimes it's not reality but perception that matters. stephen miller is getting the same headlines that upset when they applied to steve bannon. president miller shutdown. business insider, report some now referring to miller as president stephen miller.
john kelly the chief of staff. how are these headlines for stephen miller and john kelly's future? >> there's some reporting that general kelly is looking for the exit which i would not blame him. he's an american hero and deserves our respect. mr. miller, slightly less of a hero. he's a 32-year-old guy, worked on the hill. that's fine. i never saw steve bannon overruled the president like this. the president sat down. we all saw it on national television. it was remarkable meeting. he sat in the cabinet room. >> tuesday meeting. >> senator dianne feinstein said would you sign a clean daca bill. allow the dreamers to stay with nothing else attached. no strings attached. let me read you what he said. he said yes and then move to phase two which would be come prehencive immigration reform but i think we need to do daca
first. that's the president making a deal until steve miller overruled it. it's unprecedented. >> the idea that stephen miller, who i really respect. >> that makes one of us. >> that he's the pup -- >> i said respect steve miller. >> i don't loik like a staff guy overruling the president. >> the idea he's the puppeteer is an absurdity. he's an important voice among many important voices. he has the mandate of american people and changing this country when it comes to the economy. >> yet when it comes to immigration steve miller, not
only is being credited by democrats and republicans with having the final word on this, whether you want to say overruled or convincing. he is passionate about immigration. he actually is the only one who has come out and take questions on immigration from the press. here he is in a combative exchange in the press briefing room. >> aren't you trying to change what it means to be an immigrant come sboing into this country i you're telling them you have to speak english. can't people learn how to speak english when they get here? >> first of all, right now it's a requirement to be natural iedsed you have to be english. >> are we just going to bring in people from great britain and australia? >> i am shocked at your statement that you think that only people from great britain and australia would know english. >> sounds like you're trying to engineer the rational and ethnic flow of people into this country. >> that's one of the most outrageous, insulting and
foolish things you've said. for you that's really -- the notion that you think this is racist bill is so wrong and so insulting. >> combative to say the least, paul. >> to say the least in that sense i think he's reflecting the president. it's a tragic thing. the majority of americans believe our president is racist in the polling. over 50% thinks he prefers white people to non-white people. why? because he said so. he was in that infamous meeting and he said we need more immigrants from norway and not from unflattering comment countries in africa, the caribbean or central america. when you say you want more white immigrants. that that sense mr. miller is repeating the president's view which is a racist view. >> what's actually racist is telling minorities and i say this as a hispanic the telling minorities at election time we value you and value your vote and forgetting them between.
>> we just shut down the government for them. >> for his panic americans. they shut it down for ill leega immigrants. they have done tremendous harm to the economic prosperity of legal hispanic americans. of legal african-americans. what the president is doing is saying america first no matter your creed or color. your economic prosperity -- >> norway first he said. >> it's my first priority. there's nothing racist about it. that's the opposite of racist. it's saying we're not here to exploit you. we're here to improve your lives. that's what president trump has done. >> all right. thank you both. paul you have the first. i appreciate your time. next, republicans pushing harder on that controversial memo alleging fbi wrong doing in the russia probe. why won't they let the fbi see
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of partisan talking points and nothing more than an attempt to distract from the russia probe. obviously this memo release the memo has gotten national attention. what is the latest on the push to relohse it an what's in it? >> i'm told by key republicans they are pushing very hard to release this memo very soon. as soon as next week when the house returns to session after a rece recess. it's taking now a verecess. it alleges the fbi acted improperly by not telling the judge who has overseen the warrant that they are using part of the justification that the trump-russia dossier that included the allegations comp e compiled by the british agent. this is something the fbi has requested to review this memo.
full of these republican allegations but the chairman of the committee will not give the fbi an opportunity to review this memo. i talked to one key republican earlier tonight about why the fbi should not review it. this is what he said. >> i'm not in favor of looking at doj and fbi weighing in. they've been less than cooperative on a number of fronts. >> they need to have a role in reviewing the memo first? >> no. they know more about what's in the memo than perhaps anybody else. at this point i think they understand the wrong doing that certainly the memo would highlight. >> now to release the memo the process is this. the house intelligence committee would vote to do that. it would go to the president who would decide whether or not to declassify it. if he does, the memo is public. >> lawmakers are seeing nearly
400 new pages of text messages involving fbi agent that was removed from bob mueller's team, some 50,000 text messages. >> they're saying it shows an effort by the two fbi agents. they were biassed against then candidate trump. it alleges that then attorney general loretta lynch knew they were not going to move forward on some of these charges against hillary clinton as part of that clinton e-mail investigation. republicans are raising concern as about five months of missing tex messages that were not turned over to congress. democrats are saying it's part of an effort to distract from the russia-trump investigation as republicans are starting to pursue this new line of inquiry going forward. >> thank you very much.
let's talk about the text messages that we have. put aside the ones that are missing. let's talk about the ones we have first. as he points out some of them seem to raise red flags. where they suggest loretta lynch who was then the attorney general knew the conclusions of the fbi's investigation when she seemed to imply i'll accept whatever it is. these texts, let eets just 's j clear, were made before comey made the announcements. timing looks like hell. it's her reply that seems to damming. she writes back it's real profile since she knows no charges will be brought. that's the operative text.
>> does it look bad? absolutely. you're going to read the tea leaves the way you want to. in june of 2016, you have that phoenix tarmac meeting between attorney general lynch and the former president. that's what comey uses as the basis for coming out on july 5th and doing shotgomething unprecedented weighing in and saying we're not going to bring charges but here are things that happened. the fbi has never done that before. we have been around for 110 years. we follow the evidence. does it look bad? absolutely. it absolutely looks bad. i think a lot of people are uncomfortable with it. the only way to get to the bottom is some folks are brought forward and asked to testify under oath. >> what do you say, richard? >> i think these two people maybe shouldn't be working for the government. they shouldn't be using their official texts, phone lines to be sending messages to each
other. big picture is that there was absolutely no legal precedent for charging someone with what happened to hillary clinton. we've been over and over this. that's a 2016 story that they are trying to dig up in 2018. no legal precedent for charging someone for negligently handling classified information in an e-mail account like that. zero. talking a bt computer with hillary clinton e-mails on it. that was used to spread the rumor they are re-opening investigation. they threw the election for trump. the notion they were favoring clinton is laughable to what happened in 2016 that last week of october.
>> absolutely. >> let's talk about the texts we don't have. the other issue is we have five months of texts that we do not have. all the inappropriate phone calls to the russian ambassador, the national security advisor, michael flynn. that's a strange time line, let's say the least. they say these are missing because they were switching their sam sung phones. have not answered whether it's these two people's messages that are missing or perhaps others. do they owe it to us to get to the bottom of that? >> i think they do. at a minimum it fuels conspiracy theories. they look at this and go five months. one month after the election through the transition which is the greatest period of time we're look at this counter
intelligence investigation into russia meddling into our election. yes, it's going to have a huge impact. under normal circumstances, and i'll disagree with richard on this. i would leave this in the office of inspector general. they are apolitical and they do great work. under the current set of circumstances we're dealing it, i think a special prosecutor needs to be appointed. >> i want to give you chance to respond. information about the fbi. they won't give it to the fbi for the fbi to look at. democrats say it's political who have seen it. when you put all this together, is there any reason to have a second special counsel or is that ceding to conspiracy theoryists. >> i would have a special counsel. what i blame president obama for is not having the fbi be on top
of the situation with the russians interfering in our election. >> you're saying you would do a special counsel? >> no. i think congress, needs to investigate why the fbi wasn't on top of the the russians messing in our election. in 2016, why were the obama administration slow to deal with this. we had the russians interfering in our election, the fbi was aware of it. they just sat around in 2016 and did nothing. it's not this stuff in this report. this is irrelevant to the big picture of what happened in 2016. >> there was an investigation. just because the president
didn't push it at the time because president obama thought it would tilt the election -- >> or he thought hillary was going to win. >> exactly. >> there's always been an investigation into that. we worry about china, north korea, russia meddling in our election. that investigation was under way. >> thank you both. next, a complaint just filed with the justice department over stormy daniel and alleged hush money paid to silence her about an affair with donald trump. did the payoff break the law. trump taking credit for gains that benefit african-americans. does he deserve it? >> i don't see a lot of what he's doing that has affected the black community. there's a vacation at the end of every week with hilton. whatever type of weekender you are, don't let another weekend pass you by. get the lowest price when you book at hilton.com we can go down this what do you think? ♪ "never been in love" by cobra starship feat. iconapop ♪
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michael cohen has just told me that your complaint is baseless along with the allegation that president trump file ad a false report. what's your agent? >> the argument is that michael cohen is an agent of president trump. he's president trump's personal lawyer. he was the head lawyer at the trump organization at the time of this payment to stormy dan l danie daniels. we allege two violations. two different types of violations. one is pretty clear that the president or someone closel related to him spent $130,000 to influence the election. hush money to prevent embarrassment of the president with an individual with whom he had an affair who was talking to major media outlets at the time. this came about a week after the access hollywood tape went public. violation number one, failure to disclose an expenditure by the trump campaign committee in the amount of $130,000. the second violation that we
allege is possibly having occurred is if this money did not come from president trump, there was an illegal campaign contribution. if it came from the trump organization, that's an illegal contributi contribution. if it came from another individual, that's an illegal large contribution. >> that's your logic there. as i said, michael cohen is telling me your suit here is baseless. obviously, daniels has denied the affair. trump also denied via trump's attorney. i guess the question for you if you cannot prove it was hush money that was paid to her, does that take away your case? do you have to prove it was money to shut her up? >> we don't have to prove anything. the legal standard for filing a complaint like this one at the federal election commission is it's there reason to believe the law was broken. they have subpoena power. it's the dent of justice job to
investigate. they like wise have subpoena power. it looks pretty obvious this was hush money payment given the timing, given the reporting that ms. daniels was talking to major media outlets. >> she was negotiating with media outlets about appearing and given an interview a view years prior to in touch magazine with great detail about the alleged affair. does it matter if donald trump knew about the money? if michael cohen went and did this without trump's knowledge, does that take away any concern about the campaign? >> it definitely matters. if he was acting without donald trump's knowledge and authorization and completely without any knowledge or authorization by other trump campaign committee staffers. this will not be. it's not a contribution to the trump campaign. our complaint is invalid.
it should not be prosecuted. i highly doubt that was the case. we're talking about donald trump's personal lawyer who seemingly orchestrated this whole thing. he set up the llc. i'm pretty sure an investigation would reveal that donald trump was fully knowledgeable about this. >> of course as you point out it was tone just before the election. thank you very much. i appreciate your time. >> thanks so much for having me. next, some gains for african-americans in the past year on unemployment which trump is taking loud credit for. does he deserve it? the white house spending out pictures of donald trump working. i don't know if that's what this is. can i just call it out. sometimes you just have to see that what you see looks a little strange. was he posing? i couldn't sleep and get up in time. then i found aleve pm. aleve pm is the only one to combine a safe sleep aid plus the 12 hour pain relieving strength of aleve. i'm back. aleve pm for a better am.
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already employed 50 people says he plans to hire more in the up coming months. >> we should have a big creation of jobs from a neighborhood of chefs, bartenders as well as server. >> reporter: it is the kind of economic boost president trump has been eager to take credit for. along with the surging stock market and a record low african american unemployment rate. >> i am very proud of that. >> reporter: slipped to 6.8% in december. part of that drop could be attributed to fewer people looking for jobs. and still the latest good news as part of a long-term trend that began under president
obama. >> i think president trump is sitting if a position where things have been set and the road map was already there. >> reporter: parks says trump does deserve credit for the record setting stock market. >> i have seen it definitely rise. it is only fair to give him the credit for that. >> reporter: what about other promises he has head. >> a lot of things have not been answered. >> reporter: do you feel like the president genuinely wants to help the black community? >> that's a tough question for me to answer. >> reporter: parks is one of the 88% of black ohioans who did not vote for trump in 2016 and he does not appreciate some of his rhetoric when talking about black people. including recently calling african nations shithole
nations. her tax preparing business was hit hard during the great recession but bounced back. while she deserves trump deserves credit, she doesn't think some of his policies are going to help her. >> i believe it is going to help the very rich. >> athena, it is incredible because they are giving credit but credit and votes how big is the gap between the two? >> i think it could be big. they are giving credit but only on the stock market. some people say they are not in the stocks. so they don't benefit directly. we spoke to several black voters off cramera as well as on camer.
you are not seeing a lot of support growing. >> thank you so much. and next, is this donald trump working hard during a shutdown? is that what working hard looks like? jeanne moos is next. do you want the same tools and seamless experience across web and tablet? do you want $4.95 commissions for stocks, $0.50 options contracts? $1.50 futures contracts? what about a dedicated service team of trading specialists? did you say yes? good, then it's time for power e*trade. the platform, price and service that gives you the edge you need. looks like we have a couple seconds left. let's do some card twirling twirling cards e*trade. the original place to invest online.
tonight some people are saying the president who loves to put on a show is doing just that during the shutdown. here is jeanne moos. >> reporter: there was a time when president trump was proud of his messy desk. >> look at my desk. >> reporter: whether in the oval office or trump towers. >> successful people have a lot going on on their desk. >> reporter: not much going on on this desk. online critics weren't buying it. i do conduct most of my most important work with a phone in my hand and nothing on my desk while staring vacantly off into space. this the photoy you take while
sitting in the president's desk. the white house probably decided to release the desk photo because everyone kept saying the president -- >> i don't think that donald trump did a heck of a whole lot. >> reporter: nixon could have used a dozen paper weights. but trump wasn't the only president to have his desk sanitized. critics on twitter put stuff there. stuff like a toy train, a toy phone, a cheese burger and diet coke. some imagined he was calling his wife. or maybe on hold with the white house comment line. >> we look forward to taking
trump for president campaign, corey lewandowski and rick dearborn both testified on the russia scandal, and like steve bannon yesterday, corey lewandowski, reportedly refused to answer some of the committee's questions today. that's part of how we know that something really important and something really different is going on when it comes to steve bannon and the mueller investigation and the russia scandal overall. yesterday, the big news we were trying to sort out last night is the fact that steve ban nonon w into that house intelligence committee, refused to answer questions and was hit with a subpoena to try to compel him to answer their questions. that's an unusual occurrence, and part of the reason we know how unusual that is is because corey lewandowski walked into that same committee. he also apparently refused to answer their questions, but they didn't subpoena him.
there wasn't word that the committee demanded to have him back in to ask him the questions in a harsher tone, like previous officials who have refused to answer questions for a variety of reasons, yes, there were complaints from the democrats on the committee, but the republicans didn't seem technically bothered. why was steve bannon treated so differently. a lot of people refused to answer questions. he's the only one that got subpoenaed by the committee. something with steve bannon is very different than the way everybody else is being treated in this scandal. everybody in trump's orbit, from trump campaign workers to trump administration officials both current and former. we know a great long list of them who have been brought in to speak to robert mueller and his investigators in a voluntary context. we now know that steve bannon was never asked to come in and meet with robert mueller in a voluntary context, before he was
hit with a subpoena from the mueller office. the subpoena that was first reported yesterday, a subpoena to bannon that he must come in and testify before a grand jury. bannon was treated very differently by robert mueller than everybody else in the trump campaign. bannon was also treated very differently by congress. just in that house intelligence committee. attorney general jeff sessions was interviewed behind closed doors and said he wanted to not answer their questions on the basis that the president may some day want to exert executive privilege to stop him from giving that testimony in the future. that was a strange argument from the attorney general. corey lewandowski hasn't given any reason. when the president's son, donald jr. refused to answer questions on the basis of attorney/client
privilege. neither donald jr. nor donald senior is an attorney, and which one of you is the client? but in all of those instances, the republican-led committees in congress, the republican-led intelligence committee said no problem with those bull pucky, i mean dubious, even laughbling attempts to avoid answering questions to assert some pseudo legal rationale for not answering the committee's questions. everybody else has weaseled out of answering questions and they have not cared at all. democrats have complained, republicans have mott cared. then steve ban nonon shows up, tries the same thing, boom, here's your subpoena. why is he being treated so differently? i think we've figured it out. last july, july 25th. paul manafort, surprise, appeared on capitol hill, and his spokesman announced that paul manafort, surprise, had
just testified to the intelligence committee on the russia matter. nobody had known that was going to happen before manafort turned up and his spokesman sprung it on everybody. it had been kept secret. that was july 25th. well, that night after midnight, on the 26th, paul manafort got his house raided in the predawn hours. taking pictures of the labels of his suits and all that stuff. he had been in communication, handing over documents, he and his lawyers thought they were in a constructive or voluntary dialog with robert mueller's office. that did not extend to the special counsel's office knowing that -- when he turned up out of
the blue, surprise, it appears that the special counsel's office obtained their no-knock search warrant for paul manafort's office that day and executed it that night. his congressional testimony, his surprise congressional testimony and that raid on his house that night were apparently not unconnected events. after paul manafort appeared before the senate intelligence committee that day, surprising the robert mueller team, "washington post" reported that was just the start of it. manafort and his lawyers expected to continue to cooperate with the intelligence committee's investigation. quote, manafort's lawyers have agreed to make him available to speak with senate committee staffers in the future to discuss other issues. manafort turns over notes from trump tower meeting with russian lawyer. so he surprised everybody by testifying once, he handed over documents, he was continuing to give them stuff, continuing to meet with them. he was scheduled to speak to a whole different committee the
following day, but you know what? none of that happened. those further rounds of testimony, those further t documents did not happen, because in a dramatic fashion in a predawn raid on his home, robert mueller and the special counsel jumped in there, that fbi raid with its speed, its swarm of officers, no-knock provisions, all that drama, that may have been because of a fear that mr. manafort would destroy some special information the special counsel wanted but also because mr. manafort was starting to give that evidence away to congress. paul manafort, eventually, was charged with a dozen felonies in october. so we have to look at the special counsel's evidence they put together. given the seriousness of the charges, that the charges came alongside another trump campaign official, equal number of felony charges and two other trump campaign officials pleading
guilty to felonies, it now seems clear in hindsight that the special counsel's office may not have found it helpful in their inquiries had all the evidence they collected from paul manafort been spread all over capitol hill, possibly even provided to the white house by the president's republican allies in congress. maybe even leaked to the public. until the special counsel wraps up its investigation, we won't know if other evidence collected from manafort ended up being in another case against another person who may be charged in this roigs investigation, but robert mueller's investigation is very obviously going full steam. they've got multiple charges against two senior campaign officials, guilty pleas and cooperation agreements from two other officials. they obtained a grand jury subpoena and are still actively working with a grand jury. alongside their ongoing negotiations to get the president himself interviewed by mueller's prosecutors.
i just have to say, in an alternate universe on earth one where things retain their natural size and shape, it is a huge freaking deal that the national security adviser is quietly cooperating with the special counsel and has been for months, the special counsel that has been working with the grand jury which has already handed down dozens of accounts against the president's top officials. that's happening right now, that mike flynn cooperation. while him and at least one more cooperating witness are looming over this presidency, think about the president's defense team and what they need to strategize. president's defense obviously needs all the yintel they can gt on what they are up against. what mueller has, what they need to mitigate or investigate themselves. to the extent that the evidence and the testimony is going to come from other white house officials, other trump campaign
officials, you know, a lot of those folks are people who the white house has direct access to. there's no question for example that the white house is going to have ongoing access to and communications with people like hope hicks or jared kushner or donald trump jr., people like that are not going to tell investigators anything that's going to surprise the white house, because those folks are in the white house every day. but then there's steve bannon. who ran the president's campaign. he's in a position to know a lot of really high-level insider information about a number of things we believe the mueller investigation is looking at. the white house doesn't know that what steve bannon's going to say. they don't necessarily know what he knows, what he's inclined to talk about, what he would like to talk about. >> former white house chief strategist steve bannon testified yesterday. didn't answer a lot of questions. refused to answer some before the intelligence committee.
>> steve has had very little contact with the white house since he left. i know steve a little bit. not very well. he left the white house and has certainly never returned to the white house, with the exception of a few phone calls here and there, very, very little contact with the white house. and i certainly have never spoke to him since he left. >> that's white house chief of staff john kelly speaking with brett baier. who's telling investigators what about the russia matter. for all the other senior and even semi-senior people who are in a position to know a lot of what happened during the campaign and the transis, ttion. the white house has access to all those people. not steve bannon, not anymore, especially not now after the president denounced him publicly and fragrantly and repeated limit steve bannon has nothing
to do with me or my presidency. when he was fired he not only lost his job he lost his mind. he had very little to do with our historic victory. he doesn't represent our base. he represents himself. he wants to make himself seem far more important than he really is. steve was rarely in a one on one meeting with me and only pretends to have had influence. the president threatened a civil lawsuit against steve bannon after michael wolff's book came out. then the president, after threatening to sue him gave mr. bannon a derogatory nickname, sloppy steve has been dumped like a dog. i don't think the president understands dogs. the president kept pouring it on. said publicly that steve bannon cried. he cried when he got fired from the white house and begged for his job. and the white house press sent from the white house briefing room said bannon's employer should consider firing him.
and then in fact, bright bart.com did fire mr. bannon. and his benefactors publicly disparaged him and cut him off at what seemed to be the insistent of the white house. and then he got a subpoena to talk to robert mueller, which is good timing in terms of getting a guy at a time when he's most inclined to talk, right? but he also got that subpoena right before bannon was summoned to go to capitol hill. like everybody else to tell tales, the white house must be very eager to know what bannon has to say. but unlike every other senior person who is in that kind of position, or even charged with a crime, the white house is probably not in a position to find that stuff out on the downlow from steve bannon, because they're not talking with him. they're fighting him tooth and nail. he's not going to tell them
anything. i mean, plausibly. this time last night, we had no idea why bannon was getting subpoenaed twice, once bit mueller investigation and once behind closed doors at the intelligence committee, well, they're trying to force him to talk. nbc news reports tonight that the people directly involved are operating on a belief that steve bannon's subpoena to testify to a grand jury and the subpoena to testify in congress are not unrelated matters. they're operating on the belief that the mueller subpoena to steve bannon was designed essentially to preserve for mueller the first crack at bannon's testimony on the russia scandal. what happened last night with bannon being in that congressional commity for ten hours was not the republicans suddenly being outraged that a witness was not being forthcoming with them about the stru trump administration. they haven't cared about any other witness. what happened last night with
steve ban none non in there for hours was not a principled fight about how much they could block by exerting executive privilege. the very idea of that is absurd. steve bannon and the white house counsel have the same lawyer. the lawyer's picking up his phone, i represent the white house, tell bannon he can't talk. then he moves the phone to the other ear, i represent steve bannon, i say not to talk. it's the same lawyer. there was no principled fight going on between two sides over executive privilege. if so, the same lawyer would not be representing both of those entities. and the iran contra investigation, they gave immunity to some involved in that and it ended up screwing up the prosecution.
in this investigation, it is led by a trump transition member who has been openly working with the white house to advance the president's defense on the russia investigation. that kind of thing has consequences. it appears that the mueller subpoena is at least believed by people involved in this to have been designed to stop steve bannon from talking to congress so his evidence goes to mueller instead, to preserve and present his evidence for the criminal part of this investigation. right now the consequences of there being trump partisans leading at least some of the congressional investigations into the russia matter, the consequence of that right now, what it appears to mean about this whole steve bannon mission goss they're jumping in to make sure congress doesn't mess up what mueller is doing. that's what's going on. and now is the part where i look
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executive branch official today was fully willing to answer all these questions, it does tell us the white house is treating steve bannon differently than others who served in the administration. and this committee is treating witnesses differently than they treated mr. bannon. >> congressman adam schiff today, the top democrat on the intelligence committee in the house where they have tried to get answers this week from three figures in the orbit of the president, current white house deputy chief of staff rick dearborn who we're told did answer questions today. corey lewandowski who showed up and said apparently, maybe he'll answer questions sometime later and former trump senior adviser and campaign ceo, steve bannon, who would not answer questions yesterday but did get a nifty subpoena from the special counsel robert mueller in addition to the on-site subpoena
he got yesterday. he was expected to come back tomorrow, his lawyer tonight is casting doubt on that. a source close to the situation says mr. bannon will cooperate fully and answer all questions from the special counsel, from robert mueller's investigation. the initial subpoena has now given way to mr. bannon agreeing to meet voluntarily with mueller's investigators, a meeting that is expected to happen soon, and, again, one where sources familiar with the matter say bannon intends to answer all questions and cooperate fully. joining us now is adam schiff. it's really nice to have you back with us tonight, particularly this evening. thankful for you to be here. >> good to be with you. >> if a person is subpoenaed to testify to a grand jury on a criminal or counter intelligence matter and then they are subpoenaed to testify to congress on the same matter, do those things potentially conflict? and if so, does the criminal or
counter intelligence matter take precedence over congress's subpoena? >> they don't necessarily conflict, and one doesn't necessarily take precedence over the other. i can't tell you anything about the timing of the special counsel's subpoena or whether it was a reaction to our inviting mr. bannon to appear before our committee, but there's nothing that would preclude him from testifying completely before our committee and also fully cooperating with the special counsel. what makes this so bebuiwilderi is the position the white house has taken with steve bannon was directly contradicted by the other executive branch witness that we had testify today. and that is, that witness, a current member of the administration answered all of our questions, questions during the campaign, questions during the transition. questions during his tenure in the administration, so what sarah huckabee sanders said yesterday, not surprisingly,
completely wrong. they didn't discuss on some long discourse with the committee about the parameters in which they would be allowed to testify. he answered all of our questions. they are treating steve bannon very differently for reasons we don't understand. it may be they're afraid of what he has to say, it may be that they don't know what he has to say. it may be that they've thrown him under the bus and they have their own reasons for this. but there's no denying the incredible contradiction between what they said to steve bannon, what they have said publicly and the treatment of the witness today. >> there is something strange and interesting going on about steve bannon. he's being treated differently by the special counsel's office compared to other administration and campaign officials. he's being treated differently by the republican leadership of your committee than they have treated other senior campaign officials and he is being treated differently by the white house in terms of white house intervention in his potential testimony. do you believe, at least on the
part of the way the white house is dealing with him, do you believe that this is because they're scared about what he is going to testify about? is there something about the scope of the questioning? the kinds of topics he could conceivably be asked about, that there's more reason for them to be more nervous about compared to the other people who have testified without any white house interference at all? >> that is a plausible explanation. many of the other witnesses are current members of the administration or are members of the president's family. there's no question about what they're going to say. with steve bannon, there's always a profound question about what he's going to say. and that book, "fire and fury", couldn't be further prove of that. the committee is treating him differently. the other witness that we had, corey lewandowski yesterday goes on fox news and says i'm going to answer every question of the committee. but then what happens between yesterday and today? we have steve bannon's
testimony, and steve bannon says i won't answer any questions after i left the campaign. what does corey lewandowski decide to do today in contrast to what he said he was going to do yesterday? he decides i'm not going to answer any questions after i left the campaign. he can't provide any executive privilege, just that i'm not prepared to do it. and what do the committee say? that's fine, come back when it's convenient to you. when we asked mr. lewandowski, did you speak with the president in the last 24 hours about your proposed testimony, he would not answer the question. so there is a lot more we're going to need to know. he says he's willing to come back, but the committee wasn't willing to insist on answers today, and we'll have to hope that they're as good as their commitment to bring him back in the near future. >> congressman, one last point i want to clear up with you. there's been a lot of discussion
today that the white house is asserting executive privilege in order to block testimony from bannon. it's my understanding that the white house is not formally doing that. the white house chief of staff john kelly today on fox news told brett baier they are not doing it. there is reporting that suggests this is happening. are they exerting executive privilege? >> their >> this is the exact kind of dodge. they send john kelly out to say we have not invoked executive privilege. technically, that's true. but what three have done is saying, telling witnesses don't answer the questions, but also don't tell the committee that we've invoked executive privilege. we don't want to look like we're hiding something by invoking privilege, but we don't want you to answer the questions, so don't answer them. >> this is getting weirder and weirder. >> can i mention, too, rachel? this is an important point which you started out with, if we
allow this, it will not only obviously impair our ability to get to the truth, it will impair the ability of any congress in the future to hold any administration accountable if we will simply take no for an answer when it's convenient to the white house. >> congressman adam schiff, the top democrat on the intelligence committee helping us sort some of this out. thank you for your clarity sir, thank you for being here. stay with us. to their breeding grounds. except for these two fellows. this time next year, we're gonna be sitting on an egg. i think we're getting close! make a u-turn... u-turn? recalculating... man, we are never gonna breed. just give it a second. you will arrive in 92 days. nah, nuh-uh. nope, nope, nope. you know who i'm gonna follow? my instincts. as long as gps can still get you lost, you can count on geico saving folks money. i'm breeding, man. fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more on car insurance. let your inner light loose with one a day women's. ♪ a complete multivitamin specially
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celebrity news? how likely is it that you're coming to me to be updated on your celebrity news? i know, i know. but you do actually need to know about this. "in touch" magazine, stormy daniels, my affair with donald. she is a former adult actress, the details of her affair with our current president are available on your local newsstand, and whether or not you care about the president's alleged marital fidelity or lack thereof, you should actually know about theis story and let e say why. ms. daniels alleged that this affair happened between her and mr. trump in 2006. the magazine says they heard the story from ms. daniels in 2011, but they're publishing it today. we do have the question as to why this magazine is choosing to publish it now, seven years down the road. they had it in 2011, we asked and they gave us no comment.
but this tabloid account, published after a self-year delay, that at any other time at any other president it would have blown the doors off anything going on. one month before the election, michael cohen paid stormy daniels $130,000 to purchase her silence over her claims of a 2006 affair with the president. and she was not, reportedly, the only one. in a story that got buried, because it came out four days before the presidential election, the same "wall street journal" reporting team reported that a different adult star karen mcdougal, had also been paid for her silence about mr. trump. she was reportedly paid $150,000 by the national inquienquirer, bought her story after buying the exclusive rights to that story, exclusive being the important part of that, the
trump-friendly national enquirer quashed that story and never ran it. the trump-supporting national enquirer denied quashing the story. the trump campaign denied any knowledge of what the enquirer said or did. or any affair. the white house has been denying reports like this since the campaign. but in the story of stormy daniels, when donald trump's lawyer, michael cohen denied that there had been a stormy daniels/donald trump affair, notably, he did not address the alleged payment, the $130,000 payment to ms. daniels that was reported in the "wall street journal." we have been trying to track this down ourselves. we got basically the same response. we reached out to mr. cohen about that payment and where the money came from. he was very nice, but he told us, quote, how many more denials are needed? again, though, on the subject of this alleged $130,000 payment,
sir, crickets. nothing. no specific denial on that. so, there is still this question of this alleged payment from trump world to the porn star for her silence about an affair that's now being described in a different cop tentext from an earlier time before this payment was allegedly made. so the question about this story about the idea of payment, that's why we plunked down $3.99 for a copy of the story. if people surrounding the president were making payments to women to silence them, where candida did the money come from? who paid? hold that thought shawn evans: it's 6 am.
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kasowitz took care of all of them. we called marc kasowitz about it and asked him. he was very nice. the spokesperson told us the statements attributed to mr. bannon are fiction. neither mr. kasowitz or his firm had or has any knowledge of or participation in any such payments during the campaign or otherwise, period. that statement from marc kasowitz about him and his firm knowing or doing anything about any payments to any girls, that is the closest we have come to getting any answer at all about these alleged payments, and it is not for lack of trying. since that "wall street journal" story, we've learned that no fewer than six media outlets were chasing this story prior to the election, including one publication run by this very impressive guy. joining me is jacob wiseburg. you're the editor of the slate
group. slate has played an interesting part in this story coming to light. >> it's not my usual type of journalism. but i did get on to the story in the late summer of 2016 through the friend of a friend. i reached stormy daniels. she told me this story, and at that point, she was in the midst of negotiating, or so she said, with representatives of donald trump to not tell her story, but because she didn't believe they were going to pay, she knew donald trump pretty well. she thought they'd get past the election. of course nobody thought donald trump was going to win the election. and then she thought the market value of the story would drop to zero, they wouldn't pay and she'd be left high and dry, which is why she was trying to sell her story as an alternative. it's interesting. there's a market for everything. the market price for a porn star selling her silence about donald trump seems to range between $130,000 and $150,000 depending on the date in object ctober or
november. but after november 8 it would have dropped precipitously. >> so she's telling you she's trying to get money out of trump in exchange for her silence. she's talking to you and other media outlets to basically increase her leverage to get that and give herself another place that might potentially pay her for her story if the nda doesn't come through. >> she sent me a couple pages from this document. and they weren't signed and i didn't have independent verification, but this document is really interesting, and it didn't seem like the time this lawyer of hers, keith davidson in l.a., had worked on this type of agreement. it uses pseudonyms, and then there's a rider, a side letter published in slate that says here are the real names behind the pseudonyms. she is peggy peterson and blank to be filled in is david d
denison. only two people can keep the copies, keith davidson, stormy daniel's lawyer and the lawyer for the other party who we now know was michael cohen. >> he has not denied specifically that there was a payment made to stormy daniels. if there was, is that something that could be legally chased? is there a paper trail behind that that could be found? the reason it seems to even matter is because the source of the funds is potentially important. if this is something that ends up having a meaningful effect on the campaign, somebody who paid that for donald trump, for the trump campaign might conceivably been making a the campaign contribution by putting up that $130,000. where's the best way to find out where that came from. >> whether there was an fec violation. if michael dough hcohen paid fo with his own money, i doubt
that, karen mcdougal. who was paid by national inquire irto not tell her story, that look maybe like a third party pay. in this case, i know donald trump like to pay for much himself but this might be the rare case he does pay with his own money. >> there's no denial on the record that the money was paid. >> not only that but michael cohen, trump's personal attorney, released stormy daniels's statement. it's almost a finger in the eye if you're trying to make the case that you did not make a deal with someone, why do you release their statement? maybe they would release their statement. it also sounded like it was written by donald trump. i don't think that, but somehow people take on this guy's lin go. >> we could all take take on his lin go. we could all write a donald trump statement. >> trust me, rachel. >> i want to underscore one last
thing you said there. if the national enquirer bought the story, paid that woman $150,000 to make the story go away, the possibility that that was an in-kind -- well, it was a campaign donation, should be looked at in terms of campaign finance. the money here is important whether you care about the sex part. thank you, jacob, for helping us under this story. >> thank you, rachel. >> we'll be right back. stay with us. and you don't have time for a cracked windshield. that's why at safelite, we'll show you exactly when we'll be there. with a replacement you can trust. all done sir. >> grandpa: looks great! >> tech: thanks for choosing safelite. >> grandpa: thank you! >> child: bye! >> tech: bye! saving you time... so you can keep saving the world. >> kids: ♪ safelite repair, safelite replace ♪
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>> it's not just a meeting, it's a business meeting. meeting, colon, business meeting, colon, consideration of a public release of a committee transcript. tomorrow at 9:00 a.m. the intelligence committee in the house will hold a business meeting in room 304 at the u.s. capitol. at that they will vote whether the committee should release the transcript from the meeting with glen simpson, he's the head of gps fusion. he testified behind closed doors at the house intel committee back in november, kept him for almost 7 hour, cnn reported at the time that in that hearing simpson told the committee that the sources of the dossier weren't paid. none of the sources were given money for the information. but other than that cnn reporting we have no idea what simpson told house intel.
we have one transcript from him already from when he talked to the senate. that 312 page transcript that had lots of good stuff in it. this is a whole different transcript from a different seven-hour interview. fusion want this is one released. and the committee will take a vote whether or not they'll release it. there are 13 republicans, 9 democrats. they need a simple majority to release the transcript to the world. we asked the leadership how they thought vote would go, nobody got back to us. they never do. we don't know when the transcript will come out, if it's allowed to, we also know that the transcript left a butt load of questions. you should watch this vote tomorrow at 9:00 a.m. we are advised that it's not
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answer academy, recited a garbled version of the claim made by his ally. >> it's a shame what's happened with the fbi. but we're going to rebuild the fbi. it will be bigger and better than ever. but it is very sad when you look at those documents and how they've done that is really, really disgraceful. and you have a lot of very angry people that are seeing it. they've found tremendous things on the other side. when you look at the hillary clinton investigation, it was -- you know, i've been saying it for a long time. that was a rigged system, folks. >> all right. in isolation, it's actually hard to figure out what he's even saying. but it's not hard to figure out where the president picked up those talking points that he was fumbling around with. those talking points have been airing around the clock on trump tv. it's also hearing them directly from people like congressman matt gaetz, a republican on the house judiciary committee who
took a ride on air force one with the president last week. he personally warned trump that mueller's investigation is, quote, infected with bias against the president. he urged his colleagues to shut the investigation down. >> the congress has an obligation to expose this bias, to expose what i believe is a corrupt investigation. i call on my republican colleagues to join me in calling for the firing of bob mueller. and look, it's time for mueller to put up or shut up. if there is evidence of collusion with russia, let's see it. >> like the congressman, the president seems to believe erroneously that neither the mueller investigation or any of the active congressional probes have turned up a shred of incriminating evidence. >> let's put it this way. there has been absolutely no collusion. that's been proven. when you look at the committees, whether it's the senate or the house, my worst enemies, they walk out and say, there is no collusion but we'll continue to look. there is absolutely no collusion. i didn't make a phone call to russia. i have nothing to do with russia. everybody knows it.
>> absolutely no collusion and everybody knows it. in fact that latter contention is the opposite of the truth. according to an associated press poll just out today, the vast majority of americans, 72%, believe the president has done something illegal or unethical with regard to his ties to russia. despite all the evidence, the trump campaign was eager to get russian help, despite the charges brought against four trump associates including his campaign chairman and his national security adviser, dispute the numerous leads that have still yet to be followed, republicans in congress may be ready to shut down their part of the investigation. according to congressman adam schiff, the top democrat on the house intelligence committee, his gop colleagues already appear to be wrapping things up. and schiff is concerned about what comes next. >> they're refusing to schedule any of the witnesses to come in in january. and there are literally dozens of witnesses that need to come before our committee who may never come before the committee if they shut this down. so i think they are on the verge potentially of reneging on the
be an impeachable offense. >> the question is who is going to stop him. >> keep in mind, the president cannot fire mueller. he would have to get rod ros rosenstein to fire him. people would go out in the streets and say this is not acceptable. >> it's interesting that you say that, i saw this, walter shaub, who was head of the office of ethics for a while until he resigned, said this. this weekend i'm stocking up on portable phone charges, warm clothes, and gear needed for when we take the streets. i'm concerned the assault on the rule of law is coming over the holidays. do you share that kind of concern, that what we're heading for is some kind of genuine constitutional crisis that would require some kind of mass civic response? >> i think it's a possibility. the reason i think it won't happen is because trump's advisers understand that even if mueller is removed, it doesn't stop the investigation. the investigation keeps on
going. if fbi agents have identified criminal activity for example on jared kushner, that keeps on going. prosecutors are going to prosecute, fbi agents are going to keep on investigating. you can't stop that. >> do you trust rows senstein a do you trust sessions to conduct themselves wiin good faith with regards to everything happening in the mueller investigation? >> i trust rod rosenstein. i cannot trust jeff sessions because he's lied to congress under oath multiple times. rod rosenstein is the only one that can remove mueller. he's testified under oath that there is no good cause to remove mueller and that every action he took had a legal and factual basis. >> i want to play what he had to say before your committee in terms of the fact that there was no cause to fire mueller, he was fairly strong about that. take a listen. >> have you seen good cause to fire special counsel mueller? >> no. >> thank you. if you were ordered today to
fire mr. mueller, what would you do? >> as i've explained previously, i would follow the regulation. if there were good cause, i would act. if there were no good cause, i would not. >> and you've seen no good cause so far. >> correct. >> thank you. >> what do you say to those who are sitting across from you in that hearing room who say this entire operation is infected with bias? >> they should look at the actions of robert mueller. he has secured two guilty pleas. no one disputes the legitimacy of those guilty pleas. he's put two indictments out on paul manafort and mr. gates. no one disputes that those indictments don't have a rock solid legal and factual basis. there is nothing they can point to that robert mueller has done that is wrong. they have pointed, however, that some members of his team donated to democratic candidates. well, that's correct. the fbi director, christopher wray, was also part of the team, he gave over $39,000 exclusively to republican candidates.
but i still trust the fbi director. it's demeaning and offensive to think you can't do your job just because you donated to political candidates. >> congress men ted lieu, thank you. >> thank you. senator richard blumenthal has been one of the most outspoken voices on the need to protect the mueller investigation. he joins me now. do you share my feeling that over the last week there has been an intensification of the rhetoric coming from trump tv and from his allies in congress around shutting down this investigation? does it feel that way to you? >> there is clearly a feeling that the rhetoric has intensified, at least among some of the trump supporters. and the targets of this investigation, like donald trump himself. and there is increasingly a need to protect the investigation. my hope is that my republican colleagues will speak out and stand up. now is the time for that kind of courage in the public interest.
>> let me just say, there is not a lot of that going around. back during the summer, when mueller was first named, which was back in the spring, there was widespread by partisan support. newt gingrich said he was a great choice even though newt gingrich is now talking about how corrupt and inept he is. then during the summer when the president appeared to be firing sessions, there were republicans like lindsey graham and others saying he cannot move against mueller, if he does we will stop him. i have not heard those kinds of reassurances publicly from republicans recently. have you? >> senator grassley said this week that he believes that robert mueller is a person of integrity and professionalism. but you're absolutely right, chris, there have been few voices explicitly supporting the special counsel, and pointing out that there is no evidence, not a scintilla, that political bias of any kind has infected or affected the special counsel's investigation. there is no evidence that any fbi agent's political views have
impacted this investigation. and so you point out absolutely correctly that the rhetoric has intensified. but there is no evidence to support it. >> one of the key elements is the obstruction case or the possibility of the president committing obstruction of justice when he fired james comey, when he asked him to go easy on michael flynn. there was an interesting exchange with the president this morning on a key factual matter the white house has yet to answer, which is when the president himself found out that michael flynn had lied to the fbi. take a listen to this exchange. >> reporter: mr. president, when did you find out that michael flynn had lied to the fbi? >> what else is there? how many times has that question been asked? >> we don't know the answer. do you know the answer? >> well, he has said in a tweet that he knew that flynn had lied to the fbi when he fired flynn, which means he also knew when he asked comey to pledge his
loyalty, when he asked comey to go lightly on flynn and his investigation, and when he fired jim comey has director of the fbi, because comey would not drop that investigation. i think there is a credible case of obstruction of justice against donald trump. and that's one of the reasons why this rhetoric about the special counsel, impugning the fbi, which is really reprehensible for the president of the united states, these dedicated men and women come to work every day and they park their political views at the door. i know from having been a united states attorney for 4 1/2 years, and the attorney general of the state of connecticut, that these professionals work hard to be objective, fair, and aggressive in pursuing crime. >> if the president did indeed know that at the time, i mean, the tweets seem to imply it. i don't know if they've come out and admitted that he knew that michael flynn had lied to the fbi when he fired him. if he did, then he knew he had
lied to the fbi when he told james comey to fire him. isn't that more than a credible case for obstruction, isn't that the case; isn't that right there in front of everyone? >> it's a credible case from what we know publicly. there is probably even more evidence, indeed mounting evidence that is known only to the special counsel and his team. and i think that the case is building piece by piece. it will form a mosaic at some point that has increasing power. and i think that to speculate at this point, i'm not prepared to do. but i think the special counsel is pursuing it methodically. >> let me ask you this. are you confident that the white house will not do something constitutionally reckless in the face of more indictments returned or robert mueller getting closer to the president's own guilt? >> the special counsel clearly is coming closer to the oval
office. i am not at all confident, unfortunately, that the president will avoid compulsive a impulsive or rash action. >> if your colleagues were serious about that, they would have voted on it already. you of seem to have more trust that the sort of checks are in place than me standing here from outside this sort of black box, looking into it does. i guess i'm asking you, if you have private reasons to believe that your colleagues will be there in that moment if needed. >> i am not trusting. and i am not confident. i am pushing legislation and advocating for it. and i'm hopeful that my colleagues, republicans as well as democrats, will be convinced that the need is now. i agree with you. >> senator richard blumenthal,
thank you. >> thank you. still to come, the tax bill jam job. is there still a chance, any chance it's going to go down in defeat? it just got slimmer today. and next, russian president vladimir putin's remarkable and curious praise of president trump, in two minutes. ♪ do you want clean, stain free dentures?
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today. >> translator: objectively, we see some serious achievements accomplished during the short span he is president. look at the markets, how they've grown. >> trump and putin spoke by phone yesterday. you'll never guess what they talked about. >> reporter: how was your call with vladimir putin? >> it was great. he said very nice things about what i've done for this country in terms of the economy. he said also some negative things in terms of what's going on elsewhere. >> trump and putin also struck a strikingly similar note on the topic of alleged collusion. >> i have nothing to do with russia. everybody knows it. that was a democrat hoax, it was an excuse for losing the election. >> translator: you know, all of this has been invented, made up by people who are in opposition to president trump. >> and these uncanny echoes all come amidst a "washington post"
report that trump continues to reject intelligence that had captured putin's specific instructions on the operation. trump scoffed at the suggestion that his candidacy had been propelled by forces other than his own strategy and charisma. joining me is msnbc terrorism analyst malcolm nance, author of "the plot to hack america." that last nugget from "the washington post" story, it was so striking at an intelligence level, that the u.s. intelligence apparatus appears to have intelligence of putin giving direct instructions over this operation. what's your reaction to that? >> well, that's a significant piece of information, if it's true. it's quite possible that it is true, because you don't actually have to go and expend resources to be at the tippy top of collection inside putin's office. sometimes you can downstream information that's given to
subordinates or deputy subordinates. and somewhere along the line someone gets sloppy with their communications and we get a copy of an action message that authorizes this operation to go ahead. you have to remember, this entire russia investigation started as a counterintelligence operation. we had information indicating that russian intelligence was carrying out this operation and was doing it with the assistance of american citizens. >> what do you make of the sort of echoes between trump and putin's rhetoric on both the economy, which i want to get to in a second because i think it's a deft maneuver pby putin to ingratiate himself. >> i don't know who is leading who, there's some evidence that it's vladimir putin. he knows how to play trump. from as early as december of 2015, when trump was still in the field with 15 other
candidates, vladimir putin came out and gave him somewhat of a tacit endorsement, saying that, you know, donald trump was a colorful and brilliant character. and trump really responds to that. now what we have here is we have putin in no uncertain terms putting words into trump's mouth, and waiting for trump to respond in a way that he already knows. the chinese are also doing this as well, you know. trump responds to flattery. >> it's amazing how much the chinese have also been playing from the same playbook, lavishly praise the president, the president praises them back in this kind of endless loop. what are the concrete, tangible impacts of having a president who just refuses to abide the basic core intelligence findings on this operation and to the extent it may have continued? >> there's no need to pull
punches here. it places us in danger. the purpose of the u.s. intelligence community is to give the president of the united states the best open access to the best intelligence there is in the world from all sources, multisource intelligence, and giving it typically in a compact format that he can consume and then make proper, adequate decisions about safety, security, and the economy of the united states. most notably, the safety of american citizens. if you have a president of the united states who doesn't even want to hear it, where he doesn't even think that this information is good enough for him, and that it's corrupt, and that it will somehow harm him, then what you have is a president who will then blindly ignore things that could in fact damage the security of the united states, or compromise the security of the united states. it's literally like walking around with your eyes closed on a high-rise scaffold.
>> what's your fear? compromise, what do you mean? there's one level that seems obvious, that something like this might happen again. they've learned the bang for the buck of breaking into a few in boxes and publishing on the internet is pretty high. is that the kind of thing you're worried is going to happen again? >> well, we already know that's going to happen again, because this administration has taken absolutely no steps to try to secure the united states from any further intrusions. the things that are happening are happening at the department level, at u.s. cyber command, nsa, and organizations who are taking whatever steps they can. but there is no national infrastructure program. there is no imperative to get the united states electoral process secure, because he just doesn't believe it. but the president has already shown that he can compromise information. when he had the meeting with foreign minister lavrov and kislyak in the oval office which we didn't know anything about until the russians reported on
it, he actually compromised top secret security programs between the united states and israel. he could do that inadvertently again because he does not respect the sanctity of the top secret information that he has. >> malcolm nance, thanks for being with me tonight. >> my pleasure. next, the trump judicial nominee so unqualified even a republican senator took him to task. months. i want to talk about years. treatments have gotten better, so... i'm hoping for good years ahead. that's thanks to research funded by the american cancer society. the same folks giving me free rides to treatments, insurance advice, and a place to stay during chemo. i need that stuff like you don't know. and now that you do, please give at cancer.org.
about it the other day, these are the most qualified people ever. >> the idea that the president picked the most qualified people ever has become something of a punch line. brett tally's nomination was withdrawn. he rated unanimously unqualified by the american bar association, the fourth judicial nominee under president trump to receive a not qualified rating from the bar association. and the second to receive the rating unanimously, which is really quite rare. the white house also pulled the nomination of jeff matteer who had described transgender children as evidence of, quote, satan's plan. today, thanks to a video clip tweeted out by senator sheldon whitehou whitehouse, we witnessed a trump nominee tacitly admit he is not qualified for a lifetime appointment. >> have you ever tried a jury trial? >> i have not. >> civil? >> no. >> criminal? >> no. >> bench?
>> no. >> state or federal court? >> i have not. >> have you ever taken a deposition? >> i was involved in taking a deposition at wiley rein when i first came out of law school. >> have you ever taken a deposition by yourself? >> i believe no. >> have you ever argued a motion in state court? >> i have not. >> have you ever argued a motion in federal court? >> no. >> when is the last time you read the federal rules of civil procedure? >> the federal rules of civil procedure, i, uh -- mm-in my current position i obviously don't need to stay -- you know, invested in those on a day-to-day basis. but i do try to keep up to speed. >> oh, that is hard to watch. if you're not a trial lawyer,
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disposal. but i would be happy to take a look at that. >> do you know what a motion in limine is? >> yes, i haven't -- again, my background is not in litigation, as when i was applying replying chairman grassley. i haven't had, again, to do a deep dive. and i understand and appreciate this line of questioning. i understand the challenge that would be ahead of me if i were fortunate enough to become a district court judge. >> matthew peterson is up for a lifetime appointment, i can't stress that enough, for the u.s. district court for the district of columbia. one of the most important federal courts in the country. msnbc's legal analyst nick ackerman is former assistant watergate prosecutor. nick, it's good to have you here. >> thank you. >> i think non-lawyers watch that and you just -- the reaction you have to it is, it
looks like a literal nightmare that you might have about like a stress dream about being unprepared for something. but as a trial lawyer, what is your reaction to watching that? >> to watching that? these are such basic concepts, such basic skills he's asked about. daubert, every trial lawyer knows that that relates to expert witnesses and the standard for admitting expert testimony. on motion in limine, that's something that comes up during the course of a trial to get an advanced ruling from a district court judge on a ruling on evidence. >> how common is a motion in limine? 10 being basically every trial has one, 1 being quite obscure. >> probably a 12. these are not obscure concepts. the idea that this person is being appointed for a lifetime position as a federal district court judge, he doesn't know
anything about the rules of evidence, he doesn't know anything about the federal rules of civil procedure, he's never looked at them, he's never been in a trial, he's never done a trial, i mean, it just is mind-boggling. >> what does it matter? >> it matters because this is a very important position. he has to be sort of the gatekeeper, the person that oversees the trial, that conducts the trial. he's never been in one before. from the standpoint of a litigant, he's doing cases, they're not only civil cases were people's money and fortunes are at stake. but he's also doing criminal cases. and if he doesn't know this stuff, guilty people are going to be allowed to go free, and innocent people will be locked up. i mean, that is what we're looking at, when a person just doesn't understand how this all works. >> will you explain, one of the things it's hard for people who don't know the federal courts very well, the difference between a district judge and an appellate judge, and why not knowing this for the district judge is so important. >> the district judge is actually the trial court.
i mean, people who have disputes, or it's the government coming in, for example the paul manafort case, you've got a case there where you've go to a very complicated transactional case that's a conspiracy to defraud the government, that the district court judge is sort of the gatekeeper. she's going to decide on questions of evidence, what comes in, what goes out, or in the case of a civil case, the same sort of thing, a sex harassment case, you would have the same issues. i mean, if he doesn't know the basic concepts of what the job is, it's almost like saying just because he went to law school, therefore he can be a judge, just because somebody went to medical school as a dermatologist doesn't mean they can be a brain surgery. >> right. >> that just doesn't work that way. >> what do you think about the sort of standard of -- i mean, we've now seen a few of these judges, we saw brett tally in a similar situation, he got pulled pack. we've seen some of the appellate court level, there's been a huge push by the trump administration to get people on that court.
are you satisfied or confident that they have the necessary qualifications? >> it's appalling. the people they're trying to put on the federal district court is absolutely appalling. it's going to mean that litigants don't feel like they're getting a sense of justice. it means that litigants will have to pay more for legal fees because these judges won't know what they're doing. >> and they'll also get overturned. there's real consequences if you screw up a trial. >> huge. >> as a judge, if you make the wrong ruling. and it's a very hard job, let's be clear. >> this is not for a rookie, basically. >> and if you screw it up, there's going to be consequences, because there will be an appeal and you could end up with a situation in which convictions get voided, huge civil suits get overturned, things like that. >> or even worse, if somebody who is guilty gets let go because this judge doesn't know what he's doing and you've got somebody who should be in jail that doesn't go to jail. i mean, this is a pretty complicated job. it's not just dealing with civil issues but it's also criminal issues. i mean, you have to be a pretty
well-rounded lawyer to take on this job. >> i guess when you watch peterson there struggle on these basic concepts, is this the kind of thing, if he spent, you know -- if you went back and crammed, he could be okay? >> at least he could have sat through a couple of trials. maybe if he walked into the federal district court in d.c. and sat there for a week and just watched what was going on, maybe, maybe he could have figured it out. >> but are you confident that someone like that -- i guess my question is, is there a certain amount of experience you just need to be able to qualify to do this job that you just can't get from watching trials and books? >> yeah. it's a matter of being a trial lawyer, having been there and done it. and even when you've done that, i think most people who get pointed to the bench, the federal bench, there's a learning period even at that. >> i know some people, yeah. >> yeah. so it's a tough job in a lot of ways. and it's a very, very important job. and the kind of people that they're putting on there, this is not about liberals or
conservatives or democrats or republicans. this is about competence, just plain old fashioned competence. >> nick ackerman, always a pleasure. >> thank you. ahead, the week that was. is doug jones' victory a major milestone for the resistance? plus tonight's thing one/thing two starts next. constipated?
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i mean, we have the worst mayor in the united states, de blasio, who is the worst mayor in the united states, like not even a contest. >> new york city does not agree with donald trump. mayor de blasio was easily reelected last month by a 35-point margin, like not even a contest. president trump and his family were not in new york for that election. but they did attempt to participate. unfortunately the "daily news" reports that melania, ivanka, and jared's votes did not count. the first lady correctly filled out her absentee application as you see here. but when it comes to her actual ballot, election officials say she did not sign the ballot envelope. trump's daughter ivanka also managed to botch her ballot, she didn't mail it until election day which was too late to be counted, officials said. her husband jared kushner, he didn't mail his back at all,
according to the board. so that's not going to count. that makes it 0-3. how about the president himself? officials say donald trump filled out his ballot correctly, but if you look at his absentee ballot application, donald trump wrote his own birthday as july 4t 14th, which is weird because trump's birth certificate says he was born on june 14th, which means he was a month off on his ballot application about his own date of birth. it's unclear if trump's incorrect ballot application will affect his growth. >> this issue is very important to me because throughout the campaign and even after, people would come up to me and express their concerns about voter inconsistencies and irregularities which they saw. all public officials have a profound responsibility to protect the integrity of the
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today he flipped. senator susan collins of maine praised the bill today after previously appearing to waiver. it remains to be seen if senator mccain and cochran, back and forth battling illnesses, will be present for the vote next week. nonetheless the passage of the tax overhaul looks quite likely. this bill would cut taxes for corporations, for billionaires' heirs, and for some middle class families, but raising taxes on millions of middle class americans. the house is expected to vote tuesday for a bill over 1,000 pages long. the calculation for speaker paul ryan and his party is pretty clear. with voters tipped to the way the tax plan will cost the middle class, republicans are just trying to get this thing through as quickly as possible. and crazy as the tax bill is, it's only been one part of a roller coaster week. everything from the shocking alabama senate election to the #metoo movement reaching the white house, next. when you have a cold...
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renewed scrutiny to the white house. congress man blake farenthold of texas won't run for reelection next year and omarosa, remember her? reportedly fired and had to be physically removed from the white house. rod rosenstein testified republicans look poised to cut taxes for corporations while raising taxes on many middle class families and democrat doug jones won that alabama senate election despite steve bannon's best efforts to pull it out for the accused child molester. a shocking victory that made clear the price republicans could pay at the polls. senior contributing editor. michelle, i want to start with you on this theme, which is you've now got a situation after which al franken was drummed out by the democratic caucuses and fear about disarming. democrats will hold responsible, republicans are not.
and now a week later, trent franks is gone and roy moore didn't win, looks like that did not come to pass. >> that looks like a good bet because it puts the dell cmocran a better position to not only call out other republicans but demand hearings and investigation into donald trump's horrific record of sexual harassment and confess sexual assault. you know, he's obviously very rattled, i think the one thing that we might have -- was it this week he sexually harassed a sitting senator on twitter? >> i can't remember. i think it was this week, actually. yeah, this week. it was this week. [ laughter ] >> i think monday he sexually harassed a sitting senator on twitter. yes, that's correct s. >> so he's clearly rattled by this moment and accountability and i think that it just spares democrats from having to answer the question even though the question is always posted in the
blackest of bad faith, what about al franken. >> right. ben, i want to show you the newest polling. i'm amazed at the numbers right now coming up in polling. one of the things that happened is a lot of people caught by surprise on trump's win and there was over compensating in the way the media talked about and treated the trump coalition and skepticism, all of which was genuine and perhaps earned but when you look at the numbers, it is bleak for republicans. trump in the 538 compilation is lowest ever. the new ap poll out today has him at 32%. i mean, things are not good for the republican party's popularity right now. >> no, and i think, you know, the trump effect, i think is what i predicted it would be. i said it all through the 2016 election that i believed trump would disappoint the people who are willing to hold their nose and vote for them and hope for
the best and find themselves more and more being disgusted with behavior. i thought independence and people willing to vote republican at times would end up feeling as though the republican party representing something they can no longer support as long as he's the leader of it. once he won, i counted on the idea maybe republicans will try to hold him accountable, certainly not cheer lead for him but have been and i think steve bannon, the trump miracle. i haven't even heard that before. >> that is a really good clip for null fa caification attempt >> he's trying to speak this language. a lot of people are really seeing what a bunch of us warned them would be the case and it's going to come back to bite the republicans -- i think it's going to come back to bite them in 2018. very hard. >> i haven't had -- i don't think we talked about the doug
jones win. it really is -- i mean, there are so many distinct things about the race with roy moore and accusations but as a political earthquake to get a democratic senator in alabama. >> more so machine a senator in massachusetts during obama's first term. what is amazing is we now have proof. for a long time we had increased democratic margins that have fallen short in red districts. now we finally have one that jeff sessions can seat. this is incredible and yet, you don't see any sort of instinct for self-preservation among republicans in congress, which is really astonishing. they are not just yolking themself to the tax bill, which obviously fulfills a lot of dreams but incredibly unpopular and yolking themselves to donald trump's obstruction and this kamikaze attack on the fbi. it's so hard for me to
understand what they think they are going to get out of this and how they think they will be remembered. >> it's a great question. what do you think the psychology of republicans on the hill is given what they are facing, given the aftermath of jones? >> well, so, you know, in alabama for instance, you know, i think these people are still conservative. they still like things like the tax bill. >> right. >> this is -- elections are becoming for republicans these days, elections are constant battles of lesser evil arguments and everybody is discussing can we deal with this person or can we put up with that person or vote for this guy if it keeps this guy out. policy is barely on people's radar at this point. i don't think it's surprising republicans would be pushing what is considered a conservative agenda thinking if they can somehow rescue this situation and stop putting scum bags up for people to vote for, if they can put people in there. it seems like what they keep putting up either somebody
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on. we have more with the effect it's having on how the president actually governs. jeff zeleny joins us from the white house. jeff, this was the first shooti white house briefing since the shooting. >> it was the first briefing and it was not long enough to answer the questions hanging over us tonight. remember the tweet the president made over the weekend for blaming the fbi for missing the warning signs in florida. sarah sanders tried walking that back. she said, look, this was the act of a deranged individual, in her words, and she said the president essentially didn't mean that. but she went on to say that the fbi's attention on what she called a hoax, the russian collusion situation, has dominated their time. but then she went on to say in
greater words than the president has that russia did, indeed, meddle in the election. but it was a split screen conversation, still talking about guns as well. and that's what the president addressed from the east room of the white house shortly after the white house press briefing. let's watch. >> a few moments ago, i signed a memorandum directing the attorney general to propose regulations to ban all devices that turn legal weapons into machine guns. >> so we heard the president there really somewhat of a surprise. the white house had not telegraphed that. this has been coming since the las vegas shooting back in september. they had not talked about this much at all since then. clearly the white house wanting to be part of this conversation on guns. you heard the president there signing a directive. unclear exactly, though, what that will do. we're not talking about new laws here, just existing laws, anderson.
>> the president is weighing in again tonight on twitter about background checks. what's he saying? >> he is, indeed. another sign the president has -- as we were talking about over the weekend and yesterday, has been effectively, at least, paying attention closely to that florida shooting. he was talking about how it's everyone's responsibility here to do something on guns. this is what he said a short time ago on social media. he said this: whether you are a republican or democrat, we must now focus on strengthening background checks. this sounds a little bit like the donald trump of yesterday when he was for strong background checks before he was running for president. do you remember when he was thinking about running as a reform party candidate? he was for gun control. all that fof that changed in 20n he was being supported by the nra. certainly the president wants to be engaged this this conversation on guns. less clear if he will actually
lead his party to something here. the house and the senate are out this week, so the president is sort of alone in these conversations. but keep an eye on that, because advisers say they have even been surprised by how interested he seems in doing something on this. again tomorrow here he'll be talking to some students at the white house, some other school leaders as well. so the new person in this equation is the president. we'll see if he leads on this, anderson. >> as the president at least alluded to tonight, preventing another mass shooting is their responsibility. they went to parkland, some through tears, as they banned them from the high school. are you on a bus there?
>> yeah, we're on a bus. we're about an hour away. >> when you heard them not support a bill to ban assault rifles and high-caliber magazines, i wonder what you thought? there is a long battle ahead of you. >> to be honest, we're all super pissed about that and don't think we're not gloing to addres it tomorrow. >> i hear it was an overwhelming vote not to proceed on this. >> i don't know how that's possible considering this happened in their own state, and there are kids that are dead from their own state, along with kids that were there from our school, and they just -- they don't care. >> governor rick scott, obviously the governor of the floor, held what he called an emergency meeting tonight to find solutions to protect students and said that he would
put forth a gun proposal policy on friday to, quote, move the needle forward. do you buy that? does that give you any kind of hope? >> i'll have hope from the governor when i hear it myself and when he actually takes some action on it. because he may have an a-plus rating from the nra but he does not have an a-plus rating from us. >> the vote was 36-71 today in the state house. on a national level, the president announced a plan to move towards banning bump stocks, which is something that was talked a lot about after las vegas and then sort of disappeared. is that a big enough step forward, in your mind? >> no. they should have banned bump stocks a long time ago, and that wouldn't have prevented anyone from my school dying. >> if you had the chance to introduce your own bill, what would be in it? have you thought that far ahead?
you? >> definitely. i've always been an activist for gun reform but never to this extent. i was one of the people that would kind of forget about a mass shooting after it happened, which is awful, because you don't really get how it feels until it happens to you. but we're going to make sure that nobody forgets. >> we talked to david hoge in the last hour, and some people have been writing about him, some conspiracy websites, some far right websites suggesting maybe he was a crisis actor, which is obviously a ludicrous notion, he's obviously a student from the school saying his dad who had been formerly with the fbi may have put him up to it. when you hear comments like this that come out of the wake of a school shooting, does it scare you? does it anger you? does it diminish your desire to be involved? >> honestly, i think the reason people are saying those things is they're in disbelief and
your finger in the eye of the people who you didn't like before, anyway. this is a breakdown that can hopefully lead to a breakthrough. those young people are extraordinary. i've been hearing marketers talk about this high school generation. they are very different than the college students. there's something happening with these young people. those young people are better spoken than most of us on television. they've never been on television before. so if there's any hope in the country, it's in this generation that's rising. i just want to say to stand over the bodies of children and poke your finger in the eye of your a adversary is as low as you can possibly go in public life, and it's a shame the president did that but i'm proud of these young people. >> the thing that's bad about that tweet, not only is it factually incorrect, but he takes this platform to once
left wing help. >> i've been to many, many high schools all around georgia talking to children, and i think when they're in an emotional state -- and they deserve to be heard, they deserve to be listened to, and i expressed that on the show also that i believe they're sincere. this is a horrible tragedy. their hearts are broken. but also know that the state senator from there is facilitating their bus trip up to tallahassee which, when i was in the general assembly, was illegal to do something like that, to pay for somebody to lobby. the democrat party there is doing it. >> you think they are being hijacked by left wing politics? >> i was talking about the left rally. it would shock me if 17-year-olds around the country -- and i agree with you, van, very articulate, very sincere. but it would shock me if they did a nationwide rally and the
pro gun control left took their hands off. >> why does it even matter? let me just ask the question. if there is a group of people who are supporting of what they want to do, what would be wrong with them working with them if they have some knowledge about how to get their message out? what you're suggesting is somehow they've been used like some people went in and told them what to say. >> which, by wathe way, there a these allegations which is just ridiculo ridiculous. >> i did not say that and did not say that today. i said their hearts are broken and they are sincere, i'll say that. but i can say this. as rahm emanuel famously said, don't waste a good crisis. >> come on, jack. >> they're trying to enter into politics, they're trying to change the debate that is a political debate. you cannot criticize high school
us, but i don't think we're using the kids. here's the thing, it's not fair to you -- you're sprinkling out there that maybe these kids are illegitimate and that's wrong. >> those words did not come out of my mouth. >> we're supporting these kids here and around the country. later the president has claimed that he's done more with russia than president obama did in eight years.
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we're talking about students taking action in the wake of the parkland tragedy. >> jack is outnumbered on this panel but he's in the majority in the united states congress, in the state legislature of florida, in the state legislature of most states. gun rights are the defining issue of the republican party today. more than immigration, more than abortion, they are going to do nothing. they are going to do nothing regardless of what these young people demand, because this is the issue that unites the republican party. donald trump used to be for gun control, but today maybe we'll do something about bump stocks some year. this is an issue that unites the republican party against any sort of regulation. you know, for ten years in this country, guns just like this, ar-16s --
>> ar-15. >> ar-15 -- were illegal. we still had george bush under this, but in the second amendment we have access to guns like this. that's exactly what happened in 2004 after the brady bill expired, and that's the kind of country we ever now because republican legislator was want that way. >> to jack's point, is it wrong that a group of students have been very vocal and very is well-spoken are contacted by gun control groups and who want to help sponsor a rally? is there anything wrong with that? >> of course not. jack is out there being tainted by the political parties, people who can actually organize and help them move legislation. cpac is this big conservative meeting happening in washington this week or next week. do you know how many kids are bussed in from around the country to join cpac and to talk
about -- >> let me repeat this. they're not under duress of a horrible life-changing tragedy, and i would say for those kids, you got to give them a little space. >> their parents are fine with them being involved, and frankly, being involved helps them move into grief and try to turn grief into something positive, who are we to say how they should grieve? should they stay home and grieve and that's the only way to grieve? >> let me say again as i said this morning, i don't doubt their sincerity. their hearts are broken, i understand that. but i also think that sometimes when somebody goes through that that you don't want to inject politics into it immediately. let me give you a couple -- let me say this. >> this is a mass shooting. >> there is a shooting every few
months. just pretend we're talking about guns in the wake of the las vegas shooting. did that happen long enough ago that we can talk about gun policy? because if you have this rule we're not allowed to talk about gun control -- what's the time, 30 days, 60 days, 100 days? >> the republican house in december passed a bill sponsored by richard hudson. the man's 180-day review to look at bump stocks and get rid of them if necessary. it also had to do with a background check which corwin and murphy are talking about in the senate. i want to say this because i know gun control debates fairly well having gone through many of them, but the democrats, jeffrey, had the opportunity to reinstate the assault weapons ban, and they're not really assault weapons, not according to the u.s. army. they're weapons that look like -- they are semiautomatic. that might be a technical term.
but why did the democrats -- >> should they have? >> i would say they should have if that's the belief of their party. >> should they have? >> no. >> then what difference does it make? >> i'm saying they didn't have the opportunity -- >> let's not talk over each other. van, what did you have to say? >> we have the great recession of two wars. everything you guys criticize us not doing in the 18 months we had to control the government -- >> of all the things -- we could sit here and argue all day long, but one of the most compelling things i heard from one of these students was, you weren't there. you don't know what it felt like. you weren't hiding under a desk or in the closet, you don't know what it felt like. if this helps them in their grieving process, let them get on a bus or train and go to tallahassee. >> jack, have you ever been to a pro-life rally? >> yes. >> have you ever heard a young person get up there and talk
about abortion, somebody who recently has been affected by it, maybe because she had a classmate who had an abortion? >> no. >> you never heard a young person in the pro-life activist movement. >> no, i haven't. >> you've never heard young people being involved in the pro-life movement? >> that's not what you asked me. you asked me if i heard a young person talk about the abortion movement. >> come on, you're involved in politics. we have to take another break. we're going to take a break and continue talking during the commercial break, apparently. we'll be right back.
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what's wrong with your comment, jack, when you think there should be a period these kids should mourn and it doesn't become an issue about gun control, i often think we don't focus on the reality of what an ar-15 does to a child. if anyone has been on a battlefield and you see what a weapon like this does to a soldier, if people actually saw this ask saw tand saw the reali this, it would open people's eyes. we all say, oh, these children lost their lives. they didn't lose their lives, their looifives were ripped out their bodies. their brains were on the floor, their intestines were hanging out. it was sickening. we're talking about this in an a antiseptic way, but these kids are hiding in the closet while their friends are dead. >> and that's why the law enforcement people are standing by the young people saying, we
do need to do something different. republicans are saying, these democrats, they're emotional, they're irrational, they're exploiting kids because they want to grab all of our guns. they're actually the ones being rational and sane. the kids hiding under the desks and the cops going to save them are saying the same exact thing, that it makes no sense at all for this to be the reality in america. they have a thousand excuses. and i have to say, whenever this thing happens, if it's a muslim, they want to politicize it within seconds. if iltst's a mexican, build the wall. if it's a black person, more cops and prisons. if it's a white person, it's mental health. why is it that when some people take a life, you got a thousand political ideas, and when other kinds of people take a life, you got nothing to say and you're mad that people are upset and you want them to have a cooling off period. there should not be a cooling off period for these kids. and i want to say one last thing. i do want to hear from other
people. but i do feel that we have a situation where a generation is terrorized. we've never had this for all the kids in america. some neighborhoods, yes. some racial groups, yes. you now have all the kids in america who have seen this and they're drilling on a weekly basis about how not to get their brains blown out in their classroom. this is a national tragedy. it's an emergency. and the fact that young people are standing up, everybody should stand at attention. we argued and fought because some football players wanted to kneel and beg for the killing to stop in black communities. these kids are not disrespecting any flag, they're not disrespecting any anthem. they are going down to their government and they are petitioning for redress of grievance. if anybody got on their case and said, you're too vulnerable, sit down and cry and don't say anything. this is despicable on the part of people in this country.
i think republicans who can serve as good as you, first, before you say anything critical of them, defend these kids who are trying to make them seem illegitimate. >> i'm with you on that. having not criticized the kids, i again respect their sincerity, their hearts are broken. i am concerned that there are people in our country who do hijack grief and other causes, and as rahm emanuel said, never waste a good crisis. >> that happens on your side. >> if you're disgusted with it on my side, you understand. let me give you a statistic i would like to throw out. between 1991 was the most violent year of american crime stats. from 1991 to 2014, there were 160 million firearms purchased in america. from '91 to 2014, 160 million firearms purchased, including about 15 million ar-15s.
however, the violence went down. the crime stats, invithe violen stats went down 52% and the murder right went down 54%. >> suicides shot up, didn't they? >> i don't know. >> suicide are actually on the rise. if you have a gun, you're much more likely to kill yourself. >> but if the conclusion going into an argument is that ar-15s or semi-automatics or whatever are bad, you have to figure out that stat. i'm willing to say, you know what, i am confident enough that you can put gun control on the table. but would you join me about hollywood balance or about video games or about social media isolation and about mental health? >> i think it's really important as we move forward, let's have a time for grief and then let's take action. i think after vegas, we did have
some firm, solid conversations on bump stocks and nothing happened. >> one at a time. let her complete her thought. we don't need to jump on each other. >> i'm with you. i'm a second amendment supporter. i'm a gun owner. i think every american has the right to own a gun and they should if they want to and it makes them feel safe. here's the problem. moving forward -- this isn't just about gun control. this is about gun violence. and to really make a difference on gun violence, we have to address how guns are purchased and how violence is provoked. there are many factors that go into that. it goes with mental health, hollywood is partially to blame. there are single-parent homes, no family homes to break down the american family. all of these need to be considered. >> i'm sorry, i'm sorry, i'm sorry, i'm sorry. so john wayne didn't cause violence? this is ridiculous. the idea that hollywood is causing this? we've always had violent movies. no. this is happening because of one reason. it's the guns. it's the guns.
it's the fact they have these guns and they can mass murder people. there is a direct correlation if you talk to people who study gun violence and mass murder. it's these guns that can cause -- whatever you want to call them and i'm not going to play your game that you don't call it by the right name or whatever. when you have guns that you can mow down people, those need to be outlawed. >> we're so concerned about mental health. why did donald trump sign an executive order in secret, not in front of anybody, to make it easier for people with mental health problems to buy guns? why, if republicans are so concerned about mental health, why did rick scott and every other republican governor say, we don't want medicaid. we don't want to expand medicaid under obamacare. if you expand medicaid, you give people mental health services. but no, we hate obama, we hate obamacare. in florida there is no -- >> i'm sorry, i have to jump in here.
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breaking news tonight on the petition son-in-law who is a top adviser and apparently doesn't have top security clearance and hasn't this whole time. there was an effort recently to curb the access of such people of classified information. joining us by phone is david hirs hirschfeld. talk about for our viewers who have not heard this story, talk about what you have learned. >> well, john clikelly, the chi of staff, put out a memo on friday saying he would basically change the policy on security clearance in the white house. one of the things he's going to do going forward is essentially revoke the high-level clearance that folks who are currently serving in the white house have if they have not yet cleared
their background check, and it's been pending for several months. he put a cutoff date of june 1st. there is some debate over whether that applies to jared kushner or not, but it's clear that because jared kushner is one of the high-level officials in the west wing and serving with an interim clearance that this is going to affect him in some way. he's been trying, as have other officials in the west wing, to figure out how this is going to affect him exactly. what we've learned is that he is concerned that he doesn't want to have to give up his level of clearance that he has right now which allows him to see the presidential briefing and other materials, and there is sort of this quiet internal struggle going on over whether he's going to continue to have the level of access that he has enjoyed and whether others, and we don't know necessarily what their names are, are going to continue to have access to the kind of information that they have had, even though they haven't been cleared for a permanent clearance by the white house
office that's in charge of doing that. >> i was only able to skim your story very briefly. part of what stood out to me is that you write about that general kelly has been dismi dismissive, i believe is the word you used, over jared kushner for some time, and i'm wondering, a, if that is true, and b, is this a particular effort against jared kushner in some way? >> well, you know, general kelly would say that this memo wasn't targeted to any one person in particular, but it had been clear for many, many months that jared kushner was one of the, if not the, highest ranking official in the the west wing who, like rob porter, had an interim clearance and access to top secret information. and whether or not it's the case, jared kushner has felt like this is targeted toward him. he has been uncertain about how it's going to affect him, and it's clear that the issuance of the memo and it becoming public on friday put something of a
spotlight on jared kushner because everyone knows and has known for some time, again, that he has an interim clearance. so there is a little bit of a power struggle going on. and when general kelly came in, one of the things he was trying to get a handle on was that there were a lot of officials in the west wing who had access to president trump, ready access without any kind of filter, any kind of organized crisis around that, and john kelly did. he really tried to limit that and that crimps jared kushner's access to the president, and it's been a simmering tension for some time now, and i think this has just brought that to a head. >> is it clear at this point why jared kushner has not been able to get a full security clearance? obviously we know he has a lot of business dealings, there have been questions raised about, you know, activities during the transition, his relationship with china, his desire to try to
get financing for his company's big buildings in new york city, even during the transition. he had to amend his disclosure form several times, initially hadn't put down his multiple meetings, dozens of meetings with foreign officials during the transition, then he finally amended that, then he had to amend it again to include -- i think it was the june or july meeting with russian officials with donald trump jr. he neglected to put that in his amended version. do we know specifically why he doesn't have -- why he hasn't been cleared yet for full security clearance? >> we don't specifically, but all the reasons that you just laid out, particularly the omission from his original form that he submitted with all of those disclosures that were supposed to have been made in the very beginning, are a big reason. we do know that the fbi looks for out-and-out lies, they look
for things that were ex cluclud that shouldn't have been excluded. he said he didn't intend to exclude anything or leave anything out. he submitted the form essentially before he was ready to submit it. but that certainly always will raise a red flag or always will raise a concern for the fbi. i asked about this in the white house briefing today, and there was a very swift pushback on the notion that there were any actual red flags, that is to say criminal or any hint of wrongdoing in jared kushner's record. but we do know that one of the major things they're looking for is anything that could subject a person to blackmail. so, of course, any sort of business dealings with a foreign power, anything that involves, you know, large sums of money and big transactions that are unexplained are going to raise issues that the fbi is going to want to look into further. >> julie hirschfeld davis,
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material, putting him at odds with chief of staff john kelly wanting access, even though he does not have a full security clearance. he's on a temporary security clearance and has been for the past year. >> anderson, isn't the problem nepotism? that's really what this is all about. jared kushner is not qualified for the job he's doing. his only qualification is that he's the president's son-in-law. he's a modestly successful real estate developer -- >> of his father's company. >> of his father's company, lucky sperm club, and he seems to be -- >> lucky sperm club. >> he seems to be losing the fortune that he was given through this disastrous investment in 666 fifth avenue, which is leading to some of these problems, because he's trying to get investors from china, from qatar, which we have foreign policy issues. but this is why presidents shouldn't appoint close relatives to be their top advisers. because they can't be treated like everybody else. he shouldn't have this job in the first place. and who knows if he should have a security clearance. it's absurd that it hasn't been
resolved one way or the other. but the idea that this person is in charge of the middle east peace and the relationship with china is just absurd, putting aside the whole security clearance issue. >> also, the lack of structure. and we all know the lack of structure in the white house has been a problem from the beginning, about not having clearly defined roles. and clearly jared kushner and ivanka trump fit in that. what do they exactly do? >> on many campaigns, you have family members and friends who want to be part of the campaign. we would call them alongfortheride.comes. let them come along, but don't give them responsibility. don't let them have a huge portfolio, in charge of irani/palestinian peace and still not able to pass their security clearance. i think what's important in this article that they pointed out is that general kelly made it clear that even without availability and access to this classified information, jared is still able to carry out the duties and responsibilities of his portfolio, including dealing with the israeli/palestinian
situation. i think i take general kelly's word that he can do his job without this and i think we should leave it at that. >> but that's crazy. that's absolutely insane. the relationship with israel and the middle east is intimately bound up with the national security agency, the cia. if you are going to be in charge of middle east peace, you have to have access to classified information. how could he possibly -- why do we have all of these agency ifs the person in charge of our relationship can't see it? it's ridiculous! >> jeff, you said that kushner is not qualified for his job. and if you start applying that standard in this white house, it's a slippery slope about where that ends, frankly. and they don't have, exactly, a large community of people to draw on who, a, want to work in this white house, or two -- >> if you bad mouth omarosa one more time -- >> i was just about to say, omarosa was an assistant to the president! >> i catch eed her work on "big
brother" the other night for the first time -- >> i think she's very qualified for reality tv. i'm only half joking. >> i think the idea of sending your son-in-law, though, there is a certain tradition that would be recognized in the middle east -- >> kazkazakhstan, all the great democracies -- >> well make america great again. >> equatorial guinea comes to mind. >> okay, saudi arabia. don't you think that's a little bit of a -- >> they just imprisoned like half the leadership -- >> but still, it's a family business. and i'm just saying -- >> full of corruption and -- >> jack, this is a terrible argument. >> you're saying the u.s. should be more like saudi arabia?! >> our diplomacy should depend on the locus toms? like -- think about -- >> i actually think that sending your son-in-law has some symbolism that is diplomatic important in -- >> like kim jong-un sending his sister to the olympics? that makes no sense! >> she was not in the middle east. >> we should take note. we've got to take a break. we'll be right back.
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talk about the hermit kingdom. but first we start with two images. the first an actual photograph of four presidents and their wives. the photograph was taken by paul morris at the funeral for barbara bush. in the center you can see george h.w. bush, behind him his son george, his wife laura, his arm around the clintons. on the edge melania trump and michelle obama arm in arm. the other image, you're going to have to conjure for yourself. the sitting president, donald trump at mar-a-lago, tweeting 29 times since friday about michael cohen, james comey, michael flynn, the special counsel, about a form aide that he calls drunk and drugged up loser. and what he calls a third-rate reporter named maggie haberman. he insists that she is someone who i don't speak to and have nothing to do with, but there they are in the oval office. she has interviewed him multiple
times. to talk more about all of this, i want to welcome in my panel. the co-founder of foundry strategies and msnbc political analyst rick tyler. pulitzer prize winning white house reporter for the washington post and msnbc contributor my friend ashley parker. nbc news intelligence and national security reporter ken dilanian and white house correspondent for pbs news hour and msnbc contributor yamiche alsindor. this is the first time i've seen you on the air since you won your pulitzer last week. congratulations to you and all of your colleagues. >> thank you. >> at the washington post. but we've talked a lot about this theme that the president is isolated and increasingly as time has worn on he seems to be more and more isolated. i think it certainly set into sharp relief for me the difference between that photograph where he was obviously excluded and what has gone on over the course of the weekend. do you think this is the most isolated time yet for this president? >> yes and no. i mean, if you look at his west
wing and his white house, there's been stunning turnover, and not just across the board. but some of these people who are really sort of comforts to him, hope hicks, his trusted communications advisor, keith shiller, his long-time body guard who played a key role there, a number of people who he really knew and was familiar with and liked. that said, he still does what he's always done, he's always had a kind of small group of people around him and he still stays in touch with them late at night on the phone, when he's down at mar-a-lago. >> john kelly, his operator. >> he's surrounded by people, might not be the chief of staff wants him to be around but he's not purely isolated. >> ken dilanian, what potential damage has the president done with these tweets that have been sort of aimed across the board? ink chuck todd was talking this morning on "meet the press" how it feels like the focus is russia, russia, russia. the weight of this investigation sort of pressing down more on the president and the country as a whole.
>> you mean aside from damage to our national fabric, kasie? it makes him look guilty at the end of the day. the way he is continuing to attack anyone that he feels can hurt him in the russia investigation, anybody that seems to be a witness. although interestingly he hasn't attacked michael cohen yet because he believes his lawyer and long-time confidant may be on the fence and there may be a chance he can flip and there is a chance he might not flip. donald trump has words of support for him this week. >> yamiche, weigh in on this question. what was your take? we watched and talked, going to talk more about barbara bush later on in the show. sort of the dignity and grace that she showed on the national stage and the contrast with, you know, the events of the last year. >> i think there are two things. the first is there is this kind of stunning moment where president trump said people keep saying i'm going to fire robert mueller, i'm going to fire rod rosenstein and then rod rosenstein, but they still are here. they're still people that are working and i haven't fired them. it felt like for a couple
moments there, i would say -- i won't venture to say a whole day -- people thought oh, these people are going to have their jobs, they're not going to go anywhere. he talks about james comey setting off the investigation of the special counsel, it's built off an illegal act. what does that mean? it started to he will like, okay, is he building a case or dropping crumbs for why he's going to fire these two men and why he's going to try to stop this investigation? there is that one thing. during a funeral while everyone is watching the bushes, while everyone is kind of reminiscing on what the quorum is like and how beautiful the casket, i think the nation as a whole was kind of pausing to think about all of those things. you had donald trump go on a rant of all rants that really showed that the republican party is in completely different hands now. this is not the bushes. as much as people might have made fun of george bush and he had his on issues with katrina and the war on iraq, people thought he was someone who didn't have any decorum, was tearing away at the national
fabric. >> i think you're right, there has been some george w. bush nostalgia that has people papering over some of the things we remember of his presidency at the time. rick tyler, what's your point? i think yamiche's point is a good one. perhaps it is those people in the photograph who are going to be the ones that are permanently outside the frame. >> many of those people ran against each other, but they were still able to appear in the same room at the same time. they hadn't diminished or demeaned themselves to the point where it just would be embarrassing. now, the white house a little bit of cover saying the secret service would have created disruption on the funeral and it would have. but i think trump's presence there would have created a much larger disruption. and i do think the bushes who i have disagreed with many, many times, but it's hard to argue that they aren't honorable people. i remember visiting the bush library, which you can argue is a propaganda place, but -- >> perhaps any presidential library presents the best history possible. >> i read a letter by george
h.w. bush to his boys during watergate and he was concerned about the way his boys would perceive watergate. and it was a father instructing his younger sons and it was about character and honor and dignity, and we're lacking that in this white house right now. >> so, speaking of those tweets, in a series of other tweets throughout the weekend, the president is questioning the legality of the special counsel, claiming that james comey illegally leaked classified documents. he also slighted his own attorney general, quote, gop lawmakers asking sessions to investigate comey and hillary clinton. good luck with that request! meanwhile, the washington post reports, jeff sessions warned the white house he might have to leave his job if president trump fired his deputy, rod rosenstein. on the call reportedly to don mcgahn last weekend, sessions expressed the difficult position it would put him in. the call came after rosenstein approved the raid on cohen's offices and home. ken dilanian, what are the
ramifications of these potential dominos if sessions does think if rosenstein goes i have to resign, too? i do not think the congress would approve 509 attorney general in the first place. but that aside, i mean, it seems like that would, in fact, spark the crisis based on this reporting. >> absolutely. they certainly wouldn't approve an attorney general without that person promising to continue the mueller investigation as it's happening. so, leaving that aside, i mean, actually one of the implications of this sessions threatening to resign, is that a motivating factor for donald trump to make this happen? but look, that would absolutely cause a crisis in congress and in the executive branch. donald trump could put acting people in who could potentially remove robert mueller, but as james comey said many times this week, you would have to fire the entire justice department and the entire fbi to make this investigation go away. the documents, the findings, those would simply go -- if mueller was removed, they would go to u.s. attorney's offices, the fbi would still have them. they don't go away. the investigation doesn't close.
>> ashley, the rumor mill on rod rosenstein seems to ebb and flow, if it's the tides, i don't know what it is, every few days or a week we seem to get a new round of the president is about to do this, another report he thought about firing mueller at such and such additional time. where does that stand right now? how secure is rod rosenstein? >> first understand we have to put it in context. the president often sort of floats ideas and bounces things off of aides and friends and says, you know, i'm so fed up with him. i think i should fire him. what do you think? do you think i should fire him? and that doesn't -- >> what do you think? >> that doesn't mean it's necessarily going to happen. and as yamiche mentioned earlier he said in the press conference, look, people have been writing these stories four or five months and these two men are still here, aren't they? and that's true, and there is sort of an adage people say, pay attention to what the president says, not what he does. although sometimes he does do the thing he's saying, such as firing james comey. so, it's tenuous. >> right. you bring up comey as well.
i want to play a sound bite that we have from susan collins on "meet the press" this morning because it seems to me that in some ways comey did some damage to himself over the course of the last week. take a look. >> i cannot imagine why an fbi director would seek to essentially cash in on a book when the investigation is very much alive. he should have waited to do his memoir. >> i think this is an interesting assessment from a senator who is, by all accounts, you know, carries some antipathy towards donald trump. she raises the question -- we talked about this initially -- that does this potentially -- and ken dilanian, i'm interested to know your opinion on the impact of the investigation. politically, rick tyler, do you think that james comey did himself well over the course of the last week? is he -- did he survive politically as the stand-up courageous guy he set out to paint a portrait of himself in this book? >> i think it's kind of a break even. we have to remember something.
james comey was fired. they took away a man's career. a prosecutor that went all the way back to when he worked for rudy giuliani and before that. they took away his career. they also besmirched him publicly. he had a right to make his case. it couldn't be done in sound bites. i read his book. i disagree with some of the things he's done and said. >> did he make a mistake -- he thinks he made a mistake writing about the size of the president's hands and his hair and other things. >> i'm sure the publisher had more to do with that than james comey did. >> he certainly did take us inside the room. >> i think the book is interesting. it does give justification of why he did a separate press conference from the justice department about reopening the investigation of hillary clinton's e-mails, which i profoundly disagree with. but he has a rationale for that and people can decide on their own. but i think on balance, he probab
probably broke even. >> ken, is it your opinion he helped bob mueller or not? >> i think there is the potential. in terms of the impact of the investigation, if mueller didn't want this to happen, really put his foot down, it wouldn't have happened. it's not that these words are going to interfere with the investigation, but the damage that he may have done to his credibility, as you say, going to the size of donald trump's hands and the color of his skin and just appearing to be cashing in, i agree with everything rick said. susan collins is raising a fair question. to the extent he is a crucial witness in any obstruction of justice case to be made against donald trump, i think this could do some damage, yeah. >> and, yamiche, with the memos coming out after the book was released, the memos do seem to add credibility to whatever may have been taken away from him from his references that some people interpreted as maybe below the belt takes. the memos were coming out and democrats were clamoring for them.
it bolstered his case and damaged his credibility. >> it was such a partisan response to the memos. you had republicans jumping and running, it shows this is not obstruction of justice. nancy pelosi tweeting donald trump has a contempt for the rule of law. as a reporter, i saw, not only did we know about the details of the memo. there was a part where james comey said he would give him honest loyalty. he called me back a couple months later, couple weeks later. you remember that thing about woods i told but? basically, i remember that. it showed he was trying to hold onto his job. he's thinking of his career, ten years down the line i want this to be a whole thing i can close and i can serve. in reality i think if he's looking back, he's probably i think doesn't feel as great at the idea that he had that loyalty hanging over his head because the memos don't paint him as someone saying, donald trump, you cannot say that. that is completely unethical.
that's not there. i don't know it helped his credibility. >> ashley, what's your take, do you think the memos bolstered comey's stature across the board or is yamiche right? >> i don't know. that's a good question. my understanding, i'm not a legal expert, those memos written extelemunmporaneously c used as something happened and they would be very valuable to robert mueller and his team of investigators. the memos do bolster his account of what did happen. he's sort of been very consistent in that, what leaked out in the news reports, what we then saw. but as yamiche said, i do think everything is sort of at this point seen through a partisan lens. people will pick and choose what they want to take from that. >> it also came out in response to the republican investigators who want these hundreds of thousands, perhaps millions of documents that rosenstein has no hope of fulfilling, which will set up a pretext of why he needs to be fired. there is talk of republicans
trying to impeach him. he says, okay, i'll send over the comey memos. he does. what happens? within one hour they are leaked. i mean, these supposedly illegal classified memos and now everybody gets to read them. they're a whole lot of nothing really. so what do you think the fbi -- what do you think is going to happen when the fbi sends over a million documents, many of which are classified? they're going to leak. th >> that's what capitol hill is best at sometimes. the president tweeted 29 times since friday. it can be hard to keep up so we here at "kasie d.c." distilled them to under 20 seconds for you and, oh, we put them in the president's own words. almost. >> nancy pelosi called numbers >> maggie haberman. stallone. drunk, drugged up. loser. washington post kim jong-un. southern white house. debbie wasser man schultz. johnson. and the dishonest media.
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former new york city mayor rudy giuliani and two other former federal prosecutors join president trump's legal team this week. of course, in the case of giuliani, the president is adding someone who served as one of his most reliable lieutenants during the 2016 campaign. >> i am sick and tired of the defamation of donald trump by the media and by the clinton campaign. i am sick and tired of it. this is a good man. this is a man with a big heart who loves people, all people. from the top to the bottom, from the middle to the side. >> oh, boy, did you miss him? and after the president's victory in november there was a flood of speculation about giuliani joining the incoming
trump administration. much of it fueled by giuliani himself. >> he offered me two very high positions in government which i turned doubt r down because i didn't want to do it. >> which ones? >> i don't like to mention because the other person becomes the second choice, but they were two very high positions in government. >> was one secretary of state? >> it was not. two very high positions, cabinet-level positions. >> when the dust settled, giuliani was on the outside looking in. now "the new york times" reports the president has repeatedly offered giuliani the job of attorney general during the transition, but that he turned it down because he wanted to be secretary of state. the times also reports that some close to the president now believe he could try to replace jeff sessions with giuliani in the coming months. ashley parker, put in context. what does it mean that giuliani is now on the legal team? >> that -- it's a great
question. >> thank you. >> you're welcome. part of our reporting and part of our understanding is that the president has been incredibly frustrated, seeing all these reports in the news about how his team has tried to hire sort of top notch white collar criminal defense attorneys, people to join his team and they've all said no. so the president grew frustrated. he became involved in the hiring process himself. he often likes people who look the part, sort of celebrities. giuliani fills all of those roles for him. he can be an attack dog. he's a great television surrogate. he's a big name. what is more clear, the key question is how good is he in the actual role that he's been hired for, which is going in and talking to bob mueller and helping bring a close to this investigation soon. >> right. ken? >> this is a really important point because if i was under federal criminal investigation, i would want a guy like abby lowell representing jared kushner who has gotten people acquitted and made deals. >> that seems to be the most important goal here, acquittal.
>> rudy giuliani for all his tal enlts, that's not what he does. he has n't practiced this kind of law for years and the president has not been able to secure the services of somebody with a great reputation in this field and i think it's going hurt him down the line because the mueller team are a bunch of killers. they are not fooling around. they are some of the best prosecutors in the country and you need somebody of equal status to deal with them. >> ted olson, somebody they tried to get to join the team absolutely wouldn't do it. yamiche, it falls under the category of larry kudlow joining as economic advisor. he does, to ashley's point, likes people he sees on tv. >> he does like people he sees tv. i imagine he likes what he's going to get from rudy giuliani when it comes to the tv portion of his job. somebody who is loutd, loud, critical of robert mueller, someone who will not be hard to find when reporters are trying to get quotes. but in terms of what he's going to do legally for him, i'm with ashley. i have no idea what the
qualifications are -- if he can fill those qualifications in the way that the president needs him to because at pbs we've had the same reporting everyone else has, which is that we've talked to lawyers who have turned down the president, which is a remarkable thing to say. i think a pretty remarkable, like everybody else can tune in. you're the president, you can't get a lawyer, that's kind of remarkable to me. >> yeah, let's talk a little about the president's other lawyer perhaps, maybe the important piece of all this right now, michael cohen. and, rick tyler, there seems to be increasing concern, although we did point out the president has kind of held his fire around michael cohen the past couple days hoping he can convince him not to flip. >> there are a lot of lawyers who want to work for michael cohen, though. [ laughter ] >> rudy giuliani may have been first choice for two cabinet secretaries. he's 15th choice for the president's defense team. i'm sorry, what was your question? [ laughter ] >> michael cohen who apparently is -- people do want to represent him, in your view.
it seems like the president is really extraordinarily focused on whether cohen is going to decide to cooperate with bob mueller. not with bob mueller directly, but the southern district of new york. >> if the president hasn't done anything wrong he has nothing to worry about. if he has done something wrong, he should worry a great deal about michael cohen. michael cohen always professes loyalty. i want to mention something about loyalty we don't often talk about in the city. it's a one-way street. in general most politicians don't have loyalty to the people who have been loyalty to them. after the politician cuts their ties, that loyalty will wear thin. if michael cohen is in any legal jeopardy and his freedom can be taken away, i don't think there is any doubt in my mind that he would cut a deal. >> the other thing is there's no loyalty when you're facing ten years in prison. if you don't believe that, ask sammy who flipped on the gotty family. that was the a case mueller was involved in. >> and james comey. >> he said he would take a
bullet for the president. stormy daniels's president said it's one thing before the bullet. >> and president trump hasn't treated him so well the last couple years. >> maggie haberman won a pulitzer prize, they aren't unnamed sources. michael cohen was treated terribly, he was treated like garbage. i'm sure the president is thinking back, man, this is someone i've kind of not been super nice to and he could have a lot of leverage on me. >> all right. there he is, the man himself who you may have seen a tweet up on the screen a minute ago. he said, when asked on the street whether or not -- how things were going, he said, well, it's a lot. just ahead, no secretary of state, no problem. we'll talk about how the trump administration managed to get pyongyang to put nuclear tests on the table. bill richardson joins me live next. don't forget to catch headliners. michael flynn, msnbc's chris
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highly anticipated meeting with kim jong-un, new reporting out tonight from the "wall street journal" suggests the white house won't lift sanctions until north korea has made progress dismantling its nuclear program. the north korean leader announced friday that his regime has suspended all nuclear and long range missile tests. kim also announced he'll shutdown a nuclear test site on the northern part of the country saying, quote, it it's done its job. estopp he stopped short of saying it will dismantle it. president trump insisting north korea has, quote, agreed to denuclearization. to discuss all of this i want to welcome in former u.s. ambassador to the united nations bill richardson. thank you for your time tonight. i appreciate it. >> thank you very much, kasie. >> i want to saturday simply tau as someone who has dealt with
the north koreans in the past, is there some reason to trust they're going to do what they say they're going to do in this case? >> this is how the north koreans negotiate. they throw out trial balloons. they throw out favorable press of what they're going to do. and then sometimes, most of the time they don't do it. this is how they kind of posture themselves. but what i think is important, this is positive. the fact that they're saying they're not dismantling their nuclear weapons. they might freeze missiles, nuclear activity, conventional weapons, they're going to shut down their reactor. i think it's important that we have a strategy. and the president shouldn't take the bait of responding, also his spokesman gloating the reason the north koreans are doing this is because they've been pressured. just steady, get a plan, strategize. it's going to -- they're not going to denuclearize, especially in the first meeting. probably it's going to take years if they ever do.
>> were you encouraged to learn that mike pompeo had met secretly with kim jong-un, as you point out, if it is the case they're not going to d denuclearize starting with this first meeting? does the president walking into that room essentially mean that we've reached the limit of what we're able to do diplomatically? that's usually the last step in this process. >> yes, i mean, this is an unusual process from the top to the bottom. and i supported the president when he took this gamble and risk and agreed to the meeting. now, i was encouraged by pompeo going to north korea. they talked about probably not full substance, but they talked about probably where the summit will be held, when logistical issues that are very important. the fact that kim jong-un is involved himself in the negotiations. it's good he doesn't have a nuclear negotiator. the fact that he received somebody lower rank, secretary
of state designate i think was good. so, i think things are moving in the right direction. i just worry that the white house, one, is impatient, has no strategy. the president has to respond to every little news item. he should just let pompeo develop a strategy and stop tweeting every -- every day about something kim jong-un does. the north koreans do this. they're good at it. but in the end i think it's going two individuals sitting together and trying to make it a deal and that's what's key, that's good. i'm going to give him credit for this summit. i think it's the right thing to do. >> what do you know about kim jong-un as a person? the man who is going to be sitting across from president trump that you think will help people understand what the president is facing. what does the president need to know about his personality? >> well, first that kim jong-un -- i've never met him. but i've known a lot of officials there. but he is not like his father.
he's not like a rug merchant, deal maker. okay, we do this, this is a bargaining chip. i think this man has been underestimated. i think he's had a plan all along. i think he's a rational actor. i think he wants to eventually maybe make a deal on nuclear weapons so that he can improve his economy, which is shattered, which is in very bad shape. so, i don't think we should under estimate him. what the president should do more than anything is have a plan. not be impulsive, not shoot from the hip. just have some very clear objectives and goals and then have a plan b because the worst thing that can happen if 24 summit is a disaster and then we're going to go back, not just the status quo, but to something worse, which we all don't want. >> that is exactly what i was going to ask you to wrap up here. what do you -- in your view -- is a realistic worst case scenario if this goes wrong for the u.s.? >> well, there's no agreement on
anything that is missile or nuclear related. i suspect, and there will be an agreement on getting the three americans out, hopefully remains of some of our soldiers, some human rights initiatives between north and south. i think what's very important, kasie, is the south korean, north korean summit that is going to take place very soon. we'll more or less what north korea is willing to do through the summit with south korea. although kim jong-un may have a plan b after the south korean summit. you know, they're all over the place. this is why we should not react to their every move. but so far their every move has been positive. so, you know, take some credit, but don't gloat like the white house is doing. oh, it's because we pressured him and we're great negotiators. that's not the way to negotiate with north korea. >> bill richardson, thank you so much for your time and your insights tonight. i really appreciate it.
>> thank you, kasie. thank you. >> still to come, new polling shows a growing gap for republicans and a key voting block. we'll explain. and later. >> michael flynn, general flynn, is a wonderful man. i think he's been treated very, very unfairly by the media. it's very, very unfair what's happened to general flynn the way he's been treated and the documents and papers that were illegally -- i stress that, illegally leaked, very, very unfair. >> michael flynn tries to make a comeback. will the president have his back when he does? "kasie d.c." back in just a moment. captivating exteriors dynamic lighting elevated comfort powerfully efficient and one more thing the world comes with it ♪you can go your own way...
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we had a little of this conversation on morning joe earlier in the week. your numbers revealed some remarkable things about the institutions that millennials trust and don't trust, which is to say it seems like government and old school media is out, and amazon is in. >> in a word, yes. but i think it speaks to something much bigger than that, kasie. for example, two-thirds of millennials now including post millennials in the survey as well, survey of 18 to 29-year-olds have more fear and hope of the state of american democracy. and the organizations in the institutions on the bottom part of that list very much are the reasons in which they have that fear. congress, the federal government, the president, and the media. >> yes, congress does not fare particularly well, 17% say they trust the congress. you also ran some numbers on the fbi and the d.o.j., 42% saying think trust the fbi, 45 saying the trust the department of
justice. have those numbers dipped in light of the president's attack on the institution s? >> this is the first time we asked about those institutions as part of the survey. generally the organizations that the president has been attacking have been increasing at least relative to the last year. the media compared to the last couple years is up 6 points the last five or six years. starting from a preload base, but still up. we've seen the same thing when we look across a couple different issues as well. >> would you say millennials are not buying the president's use of the term "fake news" sne >> they're not buying that. they're concerned about the intake of news, what's real, what's fake, et cetera. but it's almost like one of newton's laws which is for every action there is a reaction and i think what we're seeing in this poll is the reaction of young people is to, is to think about how to organize and then to show up in november. >> rick tyler, to bring you into this conversation as well, this -- your polling seems to indicate that republicans are digging a major hole with
millennials. do you think there is any hope, rick tyler? what do you think your party needs to do to fix some of these numbers? 69% of millennials would prefer democratic control congress, 28% republican. >> that's a huge problem. if i'm wrong, millennial generation is now the largest voting generation and will continue to be and the republicans have got to figure out how to win them back and how to have a vision for the future. part of the administration is it's to tactical, nobody knows where we're going. there's no aspiration for what we're working for. and couple that with the things that millennials look toward and believe in, this administration seems antithetical to things they believe and trust in. >> what are you finding are the differences among, you said you included post millennials. so, people keep telling me i'm a millennial. >> you are a millennial, no question about it. >> but i don't think i have anything in common with the youngest millennials. how are the people -- i might arg argue spend a lot more time on snapchat than i do, by the way.
you found some interesting differences with the group that's behind us. >> i do think that from an ideological or type ology point of view, there aren't tremendous difrss between people in their 30s and 20s. the difference is more around the use of technology. you're absolutely right. instagram, snapchat far more likely to be part of the average habit, daily habit of a post-millennial folks in their teens and early 20s. but the millennials that came of age post 9/11 became past of the movement of the obama campaign, which are the most reliable democratic voters in the electorate. they're in their mid 30s and now they're older, have families, careers. this group is locked down for democrats maybe for the next couple decades. >> certainly more probably more likely to vote as they get older. yamiche, you and i covered bernie sanders together which was an interesting study in where many of these millennial voters seem to be. what did you learn on the campaign trail about the
difficulty republicans have with this age group? >> i think the main difficulty, especially when it comes to president trump is that millennials are people are inkreetsingly people of color and increasingly are about embracing diversity and embracing diversity not just in race, but in gender and in sexual orientation. and when you think about the conservative republicans, i'm not talking about what president trump might be doing on twitter, but the republican ideals. people are having whole platforms about abortion, having whole platforms about maybe school choice where some people think of that as kind of digging into segregation and allowing people to segregate themselves educationally, millennials are looking at that. not only do we not like the characters of the republican party, but their actual policies don't seem to match with what i believe in. bernie, what's so interesting is he was so unabashedly progressive. i think hillary clinton had a lot of things they had in common. there were a lot of things
bernie ran on democrats secretly wanted to say, bernie said them out loud. he said free college? we'll say free college. that's what got millennials excited about bernie. >> one issue that stuck out in particular to me, john, is your polling on gun laws. 77% of millennials said they thought that this was an important issue. 64% of them want stricter gun laws. over -- almost 60% support an assault weapons ban. did you get the sense this does have the potential to become a voting issue for millennials? we have not necessarily seen that be the case. >> it has every bit of potential. 25% of the 77% say it's the most important issue. what is interesting about this issue is we have been tracking this now for over a decade. a lot of the attitudinal shift has been happening already. we saw a 20-point across the board attitudinal shift in democrats and republicans on issues related to gun control and assault weapon ban. republicans start in the 20s,
they're now in the 40s. democrats in the 50s now in their 70s. what we're seeing is i think the parkland students and the way in which they and other students have organized has essentially accelerated this and turned it from an ideological opinion shift to something that could motivate millions of young people in november. >> so, speaking of difficulties for republicans, this weekend has underscored some of the awkwardness that died in the wool old school republicans are dealing with now. for example, mitt romney suffered an embarrassing, if minor set back, in his bid for the u.s. senate. he narrowly lost a nomination battle yesterday during utah's republican convention. it means he'll be forced into a june primary race against state lawmaker mike kennedy. and then there is retiring tennessee senator bob corker. he upset some republicans this week after praising the democrat running for his seat, former governor phil. take a look at what corker said when he was asked this morning
why marcia black burn, the republican, is better. >> most people in our state, it is a red state. we'll focus on the first vote she makes, and that's the vote to elect the majority leader. >> senator, that's not a ringing endorsement of marcia blackburn to say she should be elected because she's going to vote for mitch mcconnell. >> well, dana, i'm supporting the nominee. i've worked with the nominee for sometime and i don't know what else to say. >> okay. we'll leave it there. >> rick tyler, do you have anything else to say? he >> he wouldn't even say her name. i would say he forgot her name, but he literally would not say her name. >> there is, of course, we should say there is some back story here. he is good friends with the republican nominee -- rather,
the democratic nominee, ashley parker. but this has been -- started when the christian scientist monitor said i'm going to vote for marcia blackburn, but i'm not going to say anything bad about my democratic friend. it was leaked mitch mcconnell sent him a message, the message doesn't seem to have registered. >> you spend more time on capitol hill than i do, but the thing that is amazing watching him, there is a small group of members of congress who are basically retiring or not likely to be in office for that much longer who feel free to say publicly what everyone is saying privately. so, you know, you talk to members privately off the record. on tv as you say they are on message. he has that liberation and it's kind of fun to watch. >> quickly, mitt romney, i think you and i kind of both were like, oh, you know, we watched mitt romney lose a major race. there is not really -- it seems as though he's still in very good position for the primary. but this is somewhat unfortunate
considering his history. >> yes, exactly. i mean, by all accounts he's still, as you said, in good position pofor the primary. there is something demoralizing about the man for president not being able to finish first. >> in utah. >> in utah. and not quite his home state, but a state that has a lot of good will for him and his family. >> right. a very, very narrow loss to the state senator mark kennedy. so, still some road to hoe for mitt romney coming up in the next couple months. thank you for your insight. i appreciate it. rick tyler. thank you, both. i appreciate it. when we return on "kasie dc," remembering the remarkable life of barbara bush. once there was an organism so small
bush was real and that's why people admired her and loved her so. >> that was former florida governor jeb bush yueulogizing s mother, barbara bush, yesterday. four former presidents joined hundreds of other mourners at the private service inside the nation's largest episcopal church. mrs. bush was at the heart of the bush family dynasty and just the second woman in american history to watch both ha a husband and a son serve as president. and the woman known inside her family as the enforcer was reportedly in great spirits during her final days. a source close to the family told cbs news she was alert and having conversations over bourbon the night before she died. and her eldest son, president george w. bush, offered this recollection of the very last time he saw her. >> we had a wonderful visit. she was strong, lucid. >> funny. still. >> funny. she and i were needling each other. the doctor came in, she turned to the doctor and said you want to know why george w. is the way
he is? the doctor looked somewhat surprised. she said, i drank and smoke when i was pregnant with him. >> former president george w. bush about his mother. in our next hour, we'll have the best of the sunday shows in the kasie dvr and talk about the return of michael flynn. "kasie dc" back after this. >> i have no fear of death. which is a huge comfort because we're getting darn close and i don't have a fear of death for my precious george or for myself because i know that there is a great god and i'm not worried about that.
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1980s. that's how fox reports this january 27, 2018. "watters world" starts right now. jesse: welcome to "watters world." i'm jesse watters. building a safe, proud, strong america, that's the message in president trump's state of the union address. deputy press secretary roz shaw joins me now. the white house is putting this on the table giving amnesty to 1.8 mill people and phasing in getting rid of the lottery and chain migration, how does that make sense?
>> thanks for having me on. i think the president is showing leadership. he's presenting the proposal that democrats can wrap their arms around parts of it. he's trying to fiction the immigration system to provide border security. and ending the visa lottery program, and fixing our legal immigration system by ending extended family chain migration. it reaches across the aisle. jesse: people say the president ran on a strong border policy. one thing people are upset about is dreamers getting voting rights. a lot of people when they voted
for president trump didn't sign up for that. what's your response? >> the president always said he wanted a responsible outcome for the daca. so we want to find a responsible solution for that group of people. jesse: do you have to give their family members citizenship as well. why can't you just give the dreamers the citizenship. >> it's a pathway that involves 10-12 years. they cannot commit crimes. they have to pay back taxes. there is a process these individual have to go through. jesse: why do you have to give the immediate family members of the dreamers citizenship as well. why can't you just give the dreamers citizenship. it's already a lot to ask for trump supporters.
lowest unemployment. jesse: you guys have a great track record. if they bring illegal aliens to the state of the union, is trump going to bring i.c.e. agents to arrest these people? what do you do? it's chaos. >> we live in a big country. there are a lot of views and a lot of perspectives. they are doing it a lot of it to create attention. we are going to stay focused on the agenda and what we are trying to don on immigration, stop the flow across the border. the president said he's a deal maker who can get the job done. this is the first step forward. jesse: i want to play astounded bite from nancy pelosi who said something inflammatory, in my opinion.
about the illegal immigration proposal the president has been offering. very racialized rhetoric. >> that plan is a campaign to make america white again. it's a plan that says over 50% of the current immigration will be cut back, that's people will be sent out of the country. jesse: so according to the latest harvard poll, 75% of americans want restrictions on legal immigration. legal immigration. i don't see how that's racist. but how is the white house going to counter that kind of race baiting? >> it is race baiting, and it's outrageous. i am the son ofism grants. my mother and father came here from india. they brought skills to this country and they came here
legally. we love immigrants. we want them to come and bring skills and contribute to the tax base and help our economy and country move forward. wanting more agents to stop the flow of drugs and illegal immigrants is not extreme, it's not racist. i'm personally offended by what nancy pelosi has to say there. but it's just rhetoric. i don't take it that seriously. the president has brought forward a serious proposal and we think it deserves serious consideration. jesse: bill clinton gets heckled about monica. >> bill clinton, you are the best president,
facts matter. apparently not to the left. let's look at the numbers. 267 companies announced $1,000 bonuses. min amendment wage hikes, 401ks are exploding and people are seeing more money in their paychecks. instead of celebrating the good news for americans, democrats are in denial. here is what nancy pelosi said about the bonuses. >> there is a cartoon i love, the mousetrap with a piece of cheese. jesse: so $1,000 is a crumb?
maybe if you are worth $100 million like pelosi is. here is what she said about barack obama's so-called middle class tax cut. today is a victory for the american people, and $40 each paycheck will make a difference. $40 makes a difference but $ $1,000 doesn't? nancy needs to brush up on her arit me take. here is a what debbie wasserman-schultz said? 2011. house gop refused to extend tax cut. $4 some per paycheck. tweet what $40 means to you. debbie, i'll trade you two 20s for a thousand. it illustrates their dishonesty. for them it's not about the size of your paycheck.
it's about the party in power. here is hillary clinton touting women, rights. >> i wants to thank you for being a role model for my daughter and young women everywhere. >> a new democracy can't be built on the persecution of women. the only way we'll get sexism out of politics is to get more women into politics. >> somebody who has been a defining figure in come even's empowerment. >> we need to be serious about supporting and nurturing our girls. jesse: but the "new york times" says hillary clinton had an advisor who repeatly sexually harassed his underlings. she gave him a slap on the wrist
and moved the female underling to another job. hillary taking a ton much heat on the -- a ton of heat for this. katie, what do you think about this? katie: this is par for the course for hillary clinton's behavior, starting with the way her husband treated women who was sexually abusing or having afairts with, the woman who complained about being sexually harassed. she was the one reassigned. when hillary clinton is out there making comments about standing up for women, including today in a derogatory fashion, she is more concerned about proprotecting herself, protecting her power, and protecting her position. her conduct at the state
department, covering up sexual harassment of under and girls. jesse: a story appeared today about something that happened in 2008. i was dismayed when it occurred. but was heartened the young woman came forward, was heard and had her concerns taken seriously and addressed. as a woman do you think that addresses it appropriately? katie: no because the actions taken against the young woman are clear. she was the one reassigned and punished for bringing this forward. when hillary was on the campaign trail against donald trump, she tweeted all the women deserve to be believed when it comes to sexual abuse allegations and she has a long history of ignoring it. jesse: she was one of the point people trying to destroy the
women who came forward. i guess the tweet didn't do enough good so they had her get on camera and say something bizarre at dinner because this thing was still percolating. let's listen to hillary's second time responding. go ahead. >> i just wanted to say thanks, thanks for your feminism, your activism, and all i can hope is you keep up the really important good work. this is direct toward the activist bitches supporting bitches. katie: i had the same reaction. what is going on with this. i had to ask your producers if i could say the "b" word on air. i am allowed to say it but i'm not going to say it because i'm a classy lady.
it appears to knee feminists only have standard for everybody but themselves. if you want respect as a woman, stop going to rallies dressed like female genitalia, stop saying the "b" word and stop holding up hillary clinton as a feminist icon. jesse: we have new text messages from the love bird fbi agents. listen to this one text from lisa page. they were about to interview hillary for the email scandal. here is what she said. one more thing. she might be our next president. the last thing you need is for us to go in there load for bear. do you think she'll care that it was more doj and fbi? and strzok says agreed. they admitted they were going to
go soft on her before she was interviewed. katie: james comey wrote that exoneration memo of hillary clinton long before she was even interviewed. two other things are they either wanted hillary clinton to win the presidency and allowed that to jeopardize their investigation of her and treat her fairly and equally under the law. or they believed donald trump couldn't win and they wanted to go soft on hillary. based on all the other texts that we have seen about how they felt about trump, i'm pretty sure it was the former. jesse: bill clinton is riding dirty in an suv. he had a fan who started say something things to him. he rolled his window down. >> you are the best president,
man. trump got to go, bill clinton. trump gotta go. have a nice day. all right. best president. how's monica? bill clinton! katie: he loves attention, then okay, time to go. i always had it that it was called the monica lewinsky scandal when it was bill clinton who started that entire process. in today's standard it would have been sexual harassment in the workplace for bill clinton to do what he did. jesse: pedal to the metal. katie: be careful saying bill clinton is riding dirty. i don't know what that means and
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molly: president trump jins much of the world in condemning the terrorist bomb attack in kabul. mr. trump adding that the u.s. is committed to a secure afghanistan. 95 people were killed, nearly 160 others were injured. the taliban is claiming responsibility. here at home a flu activity is blanketing the country. 49 states are reporting widespread infection. one in he 15 doctor visits is for flu symptom. 39 deaths have been reported so far. i'm molly line, now back to "watters world."
jesse: may can kelly reigniting her feud with jane fonda which began when she asked her about her plastic surgery. fonda still very upset by her question. >> how long have you two known each other? >> 50 years. before your first facelift. >> i was stunned, it was so inappropriate. it showed she wasn't that good an interviewer. >> i have no regrets about that question. nor am i in the market for a lesson from jane fonda about ways and is not appropriate. look at her treatment of our
military during the vietnam war. many of our veterans still call her hanoi jane. jesse: but the journalists at "the view" are questioning her integrity. >> i have never seen a journalist do something like that. >> who is a journalist? jesse: joining us with reaction, joe concha, for someone who has had work done like yourself. what do you make of this? >> i think megyn kelly was in the right here. jane fonda brought up in multiple interviews that she had cosmetic work done. jesse: i like the fact that megyn came back hard on this. this is the old megyn.
old viper, the old tenacious prosecutor megyn. she isn't going to take it and punch right back. >> if you are going to criticize fonda, you can't go back four wars. jesse: you are right, though. that did play well with this audience. i don't know how well that punch-back will play with the nbc audience. i think joy apologized later. i didn't mean to call her the "b" word. so she knew she went over the line. >> the allegation always trumps the apology. jesse: we had this breaking story at espn. mespn.
saying donald trump is a white supremacist. now she has been demoted. they will make her do some dot com stuff. >> you go from the sports center which is the flagship show to dot com, that's a demotion. >> it's all about buck skin. ratings were way down. the reason why they were down on that show is jemele hill decided to be polarizing to half the country. the guys there want escapism and you have to listen to her talk about donald trump. she wasn't even suspended for that. she said we should boycott the today has cowboys. jesse: not very smart.
bye-bye. now we have another story. president obama before he was president, when he was running, 2008, was photographed with louis farakan. let's look at the picture. i think we have it right there. here it is. this is the 2005 photo. but it came into circulation right before he was running in 2008. explain what happened. they buried this. they buried it. >> a member of the black caucus said that photo, do not run that. jesse: the congressional black caucus said what? >> do not run it. jesse: the photo journalist, does he have to listen to the congressional black caucus? so he could have run it but he chose not to.
>> if bill ayres can run around with the president in his early career and reverend wright. barack obama was teflon. even if this photo got out, it wouldn't have changed anything. jesse: it's photographic evidence, everybody knows farakan. i think we have some highlights. >> the satanic jews. they control everything and mostly everybody. don't let this white man tell you that violence is wrong. he's worthy to be hated. jesse: he was running against mccain at the time and we had the stock market crash. but this was explosive. this was more than reverend wright, more than bill ayres. i think this was pretty bad.
>> don't celebrities and senators take photos with a lot of people? jesse: you don't want to see some of the photos i have taken. but they could be problematic if i was running for president. i was young. let me ask you about this. nikki haley. she is the u.n. ambassador. this guy wolf, he puts out this thing in the book and he's trying to make some scurrilous allegation that there was an affair going on with president trump and someone else. he mentioned it on the bill maher show. >> there is something in the book that it was absolutely sure of by the was so incendiary that it just didn't have the ultimate proof. >> considering what he's done,
was it a woman thing? >> yes, i didn't have the blue dress. when you hit that paragraph you will say bingo. jesse: there is something about the president spending a lot of time with someone on air force one. they are making an allegation that nikki haley had some sort of affair with president trump. >> it's an example of gossip being treated like gospel. michael wolff is a ludicrous figure. in his own book's introduction he says there are some things in here that are badly untrue. you have a media that cheers it on and doesn't even question. bill: i feel terrible for nikki haley that she has to respond 20 to something like this.
>> it's absolutely not true. it's highly offensive and it's disgusting. i have literally been on air force one once. and there were several people in the room while i was there. i have never talked to the president about my future and i am never alone with him. jesse: where are the other women saying you are making a ridiculous allegation about a woman that she has to sleep with her boss to get ahead. >> she was the governor of south universal. shd of south carolina. she wasn't a waitress. >> why don't you substitute kathleen sebelius. where are all the pundits defending nikki haley.
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you were here long before of any us were here. though we have a representative in congress they say was here a long time ago, they call her pocahontas. jesse: elizabeth warren is accused of lying about her heritage to get a job at harvard. the university celebrated her as the first minority woman to receive tenure. rebecca, what would you like to hear from senator warren? >> as a mixed native woman, i get to relive the squareio types
elizabeth warren -- relive the stereotypes. we are not fractioned of imagined indians who used to exist. what i would love to see elizabeth warren do is take responsibility for her false claim. she heard a story while growing up. she has been presented with a lot of evidence to realize it's not true. there are a lot of people who are confused who think they are cherokee when they don't have cherokee relatives. jesse: she was applying for jobs at university and claiming she is a native american. and she continues to claim native american heritage long into her adult lifetime. it's not just a mistake. this is something she did intentionally.
>> despite many native people and cherokee people coming forward and asking her not to do that. a cherokee geologist traced herd heritage to well before the trail of tears and she doesn't have a single cherokee ancestor. the fact that she hasn't responded shows that today we have native people that are silent. jesse: so you are saying she is not cherokee at all? >> a lot of people think they have, you know, a great, great great cherokee grandmother. and there is this myth that after we traveled the trail of tears we scattered and vanished. but what actually happened is for those of us who came to oklahoma, we reestablished our sovereign government. we still have our language and ceremonial ways.
so for people to draw on a distant relative where they have a fuzzy connection where they can't name it. i can't think of a growers misrepresentation of who we are. we are connected. we know each other. jesse: she is a democrat, you are a democrat. if she does come out and apologize, would you vote for her? >> you know, it's interesting you played trump calling her pocahontas in the lead-up, and i was listening to that. jesse: is that offensive as a native american? >> yes, pocahontas was a teenager who rather than the fictional love story we have been told was actually kidnapped and held hostage and died when she was 21. it's a sad story. today in the u.s. four in five
native women will be raped, stalked or abiewsd in their lifetime. so for those cartoons to be thrown about when the reality is we are still living the violence the real pocahontas lived is wrong. jesse: california's party bros are back. with rocket mortgage, i can manage the whole process from my phone, so i do it when it's convenient. i can explore all my options, adjust my rate, my term, and get approved in minutes. sounds dummy proof. rocket mortgage by quicken loans. get approved in as few as 8 minutes.
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you in. your state until it cross mayors of little rocket man. he's threatening armageddon. kim jong-un. the guy with the funny haircut from the hermit kingdom. he wants to annihilate california. what do you think we should do about little rocket man? >> that's a bummer. don't annihilate him. in times like these i turn to the original fast fan furious where paul walker, in the first one vince was flex on him really hard. but paul reef made chill and stoked and said i love the tuna here. that sort of put vince at ease. if we held that stance, we are chilled, we like the tuna.
>> nobody wants to leave the party. if you start hurling nukes at each other there won't be many parties. i can see a chilled out resolution. jesse: i hope so. we need a resolution on that front. weed is legal now in california. you guys think that's a good idea? >> i think it's dank. jesse: have you noticed a difference in the vibe in california since they legalized it. ed the lines are longer. that's the big jest difference. jesse: no one wants to wait in line. i love having you on the show. you guise are one of the best guests we have on "watters world." >> you are the best at having us as your guest. jesse: i'm a le jenlds in your
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