we started shelters and we have eight after shelters and we are encouraging people to go to hotels if they can or if they have families or friends in the area to basically get out and dodge. it is a very dangerous city right now. mayor shaver, i was looking it up, i don t know if i found accurate information on wikipedia, your last major hurricane was in 1964, that s hurricane dora. that would be right. people do not have memories that are that long. is that your concern that people don t remember what it is like? humans are as you know better than i do, humans are people that don t expect this kind of catastrophic event and they also expect it to be withstand it or get through it, a bit of adventure in that. this is not an adventure, this is life-threatening and people need to leave. nancy shaver, the mayor of saint