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Transcripts For MSNBC Dateline 20240706

they seemed like the ultimate power couple. she told me, should be traveling on secret missions. he had all of the medals. the silver star, the purple heart. glamorous military careers, but, was it all camouflage? says the bs alarms are going off in my head like you wouldn t believe. did they have something to hide? we start doing surveillance. maybe a crime here? yes. something that made me say, this campeche. we were in disbelief. what happened to her last husband? whoever did this was evil. the hurt, the anger. it makes you question everybody. it seems alive, somehow, here in the foothills of tennessee s appalachians. the creeping tendrils of mountain mist that snake and swirl. like lies. there is gold in there, somewhere, so they say. the sort of place where you could strike it rich, or maybe get away with murder. very scary. shocking. and devastating. so, after that mysterious death here, who can anyone trust? dearest friends? the word bet

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Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20240604 06:12:00

a walker and a cane? both. and a knee brace. still flooded. he was toting an oxygen tank as well. as chuck fumbled his way inside, nate and his agents were waiting. busted. i interviewed charles. we pulled him into an office. and then martha ann was being questioned by another va agent and social security administration. martha ann and chuck kaczmarczyk had been found out. chuck was no decorated hero. he was never in combat. no silver stars. no purple hearts. those ribbons, all fake. and martha, had never walked the hallways of the pentagon as a marine colonel, much less present at a 9/11 attack, or flew on air force two. they confessed to perpetuating

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Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20240604 06:41:00

kaczmarczyk, to reveal finally the real story of that deadly monday in 2006. who did what, and why? then, out came the investigators, smiles on their faces, chuck talked. that was kind of like the combination of everything, knowing that what we had suspected was correct. nate understood falwell. the stage was set for an epic she said he said battle with between two major con artists. they couldn t know which story would win. nate was pretty sure the one finally telling the truth was chuck. we didn t suspect it anymore, now we know. in november 2015, in madison ville tennessee, martha and my clancy went on trial mcclancy went on trial. she was charged with conspiracy to commit first degree murder. attorney matthew rogers was

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Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20240604 06:06:00

issues where she couldn t walk, she was wheelchair bound. and he did find out that martha ann was entitled to some of her dead husband s benefits. she was coming. more they were calling the government for about $10,000 a month. nate wanted martha ann and chuck to be charged with fraud. but he needed proof that they were lying about being disabled. so we started doing surveillance on martha ann and chuck. nate got in the back of surveillance a van with a camera and waited. we had several agents participating in surveillance. and it wasn t long before martha and and chuck appeared outside their home. here they are, supposedly disabled people. but by the look of it, perfectly fit. we observed them doing hours and hours of yard work. outside of their home.

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Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20240604 06:33:00

estate. the warning seemed especially harsh. i didn t know bob mcclancy. most fathers would not write something that cruel to their own daughter. i just realized, this is not adding up. it just was very, very suspicious. bob sister kathy thought it was fishy too. i know wasn t bobby s will. even said that to my daughters. uncle bobby would never put that in here. no, never. nate concluded that marks the end, the sole beneficiary forged the will. it came from martha ann? yes, the will in particular ended up being a major part of the investigation. and then, they discovered a curious date or dates. martha ends wedding to chuck. if you wait until after you turn 57 and remarried then, you can keep the benefits for the rest of your life. she ended up marrying chuck in las vegas nevada one day after her 57th birthday, which

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