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Transcripts for MSNBC Morning Joe 20240604 10:23:00

calling, perhaps, the tightest swing state in america just like it was said in 2000, it s florida, florida, florida it became wisconsin, wisconsin, wisconsin. yet, because of abortion, because of an 1849 ban there, an extreme abortion law in wisconsin, one of the most important state supreme court races in recent years turned into a blowout, an 11-point win for progressive forcesg that no coming, just like the kansas abortion referendum. nobody saw that landslide coming you just wonder why republicans in states like florida, in states like michigan, in states like wisconsin, keep moving in these extreme directions it always causes them to lose. it absolutely does. you saw it in wisconsin. that was a blowout in wisconsin terms. you saw it in kansas you saw it in kentucky

Transcripts for MSNBC Morning Joe 20240604 10:18:00

state legislature. just 2 out of 28 republicans in the florida senate voted against the bill, which makes exceptions for pregnancies involving rape or incest up until 15 weeks. those exceptions, however, will only be allowed if a woman has documentation, like a restraining order or police report the bill does not change current exemptions for the life and death of the mother. still, though, up to 15 weeks the new law will only take effect if the state s current 15 week ban is upheld that ban, which desantis signed into law last year, is the subject of an ongoing legal challenge before florida s conservative-controlled supreme court.palmieri, this is just another chapter in what we ve seen, really in the last couple weeks, but in the last almost year now since the overturning of roe in wisconsin s state legislature, abortion was a central issue. the texas judge puts on hold or

Transcripts for MSNBC Morning Joe 20240604 11:35:00

extreme laws on guns, extreme laws on abortion, and anti-democratic actions taking place in tennessee i d love to get your reaction to especially tennessee, just the pushback by the people on those anti-democratic moves. yeah, you know, joe, you and i tend to be optimistic about the future, and i think we really can take heart with what happened in tennessee this last week i mean, just think about the fact those two legislators are now returned to the legislature. they are strengthened by public sentiment, which became nationwide what was done there was wrong, to have expelled them for peacefully protesting after the shooting that took place in that city they come back with a certain leadership that they ve exhibited. this makes you feel good about young people they were so articulate. they kept their composure during the whole time

Transcripts for MSNBC Morning Joe 20240604 10:20:00

but it is also we need to remember the impact the rulings on the abortion pills, the page kt the impacts it is having on women. you read off the list. if there is a rape or incest, how onerous it is for the woman to prove that. but when you look at the politics, the republicans intellectually will be saying, we ve seen reporting on this we know we have a problem here we know the abortion positions are too extreme. but then you have people like desantis, you know, number two in the presidential primary, pushing forward with some more extreme bans joe, if ron desantis does run for president, if he somehow finds his way to the nomination, good luck pivoting to the general after this a 6-week abortion ban, something like a 15% position nationally

Transcripts for MSNBC Morning Joe 20240604 11:30:00

much turning t ing the clock bad an backward and upending the system it is important people are paying attention, both to this medication abortion case and what is happening across the nation i d underscore what has been said already this morning, which is, this is not what the american people want we saw it in kansas and kentucky we saw it in, you know, michigan, the big win there, and last week in the wisconsin supreme court case people want access to their rights yet, this campaign to ban abortion nationwide, we re seeing it playing out in the medication abortion case, and it s not what was said when the dobbs case came down, which is the states would decide. this is an orchestrated campaign for a nationwide ban. according to recent polling, the six-week ban is something like a 15% position in this country. so much of this is spoken about

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