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Unprecedented and protracted constitutional crisis. >> the investigation will last for years. the trial would probably start. nothing will get done. >> i alone can fix it. >> for more im joined by jonathan capehart, opinion writer for "the washington post," ruth marcus, columnist for "the washington post," and ned ryun. ned, how is he doing? i mean objectively. >> lets get a little perspective here. remember the first term of the clintons. first 100 days. disaster. hillarycare. people getting fi...

>> its also because its a target-rich environment. you have an administration that raises more questions every time they attempt to either answer one or obfuscate answering another question. and, you know, the longer the president and his senior advisers continue to get around answering questions, saying i dont know, i dont know, i dont know as you showed earlier, the more this story is going to go along. in washington, weve seen this happen. an administration that refuses to just own up to what...

Running head long into each other. there is the upcoming 2018 fiscal budget due october 2nd and then youve got the debt ceiling which needs to be raised sometime between october and november, the country could lose its buying authority. >> its huge. >> a big payment is due on october 2nd. if they dont raise the debt ceiling, that would be the day. >> its going to be about the mexican wall. you watch because the democrats are not going to pay for that wall. ruth. >> weve been talking a lot about ...

Justice department. >> its a tangled web now. >> hes expressing an opinion about granting immunity to flynn, and i think the president shouldnt be sticking his nose into this. he should be relying on his justice department. he should be relying on the fbi to do the right thing. hes really imposed on the bureaucracy and forcing it in the direction of giving immunity to flynn. and you know, we dont know what information he has. we also dont know what crimes he might be immunized for. >> you raise ...

Constitutional crisis. >> the investigation will last for years. the trial would probably start. nothing will get done. >> i alone can fix it. >> for more im joined by jonathan cape horn, opinion writer for "the washington post," ruth marcus, columnist for "the washington post," and ned ryan. ned, how is he doing? objectively. >> lets get a little perspective here. remember the first term of the clintons. first 100 days. disaster. hillarycare. people getting fired out of the white house travel o...

And it means that there is a mandatory command shall investigate this issue. and it looks like its very possible that such an investigation has already begun, given the low bar to start such an investigation. >> mieke, when you worked on the committee, you were subject to those same kinds of rules. what is your understanding of the rule, and what do you see when you listen to the chairman speaking in the white house driveway there? >> i mean, these kinds of investigations are very rare because u...

Then decides he is going to tell the press. then he is going to the tell president and he is going to tell the press again that whole sequence, beginning with paul ryan as the first stop, what do you read in that? >> what that says to me is that this wasnt about furthering the committees investigation. it was about furthering the committees investigation, he would have brought that information back to the committee, briefed all the committee members about it, shared wit a ranking member, asked f...

>> what that says to me is that this wasnt about furthering the committees investigation. it was about furthering the committees investigation, he would have brought that information back to the committee, briefed all the committee members about it, shared wit a ranking member, asked for follow-up information from the white house. its one thing to go to the speaker of the house to have the conversation to seek some guidance. but then to go from there to the press, from the press to the white hou...

An investigation. >> mieke, when you worked on the committee, you were subject to those same kinds of rules. what is your understanding of the rule, and what do you see when you listen to the chairman speaking in the white house driveway there? >> i mean, these kinds of investigations are very rare because usually members are very careful about not revealing classified information, which is what was so unusual about the chairmans statement there in front of the white house. usually you dont talk...

>> meghan: we watched paul ryan get out power point like i was in college again which in fairness you sounded thrill. also watch c-span for fun. >> harris: more shame -- i love her. >> meghan: thank you. i had to get my dig in once in a while. for ned, comes from communication, so do i. i understand how on some level i knew this narrative wasnt getting across. i completely agree with you. i dont understand why this bill was pushed through without getting together every single facet of the republ...