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Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20191208 07:33:00

reporter: the name of an old high school classmate named dorothy ciner. although in his log he wrote that he didn t like wearing a wig. it itched, it got in my eyes; unless it was on tight, which made my head sweat. but the version bob has told over the years, believes author matt birkbeck, doesn t tell the real story. certainly not of the famous killing of his elderly neighbor morris black. or of bob s activities in galveston and elsewhere. it was really strange, you know, him and black, palling around in galveston amongst the homeless. so what is a guy of his wealth and his family s influence doing stealing identities? reporter: in fact, in the spring of 2001, at the same time as he, as dorothy ciner, was living in galveston he rented

Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20191208 07:35:00

saws, bought axe. did it. but matt birkbeck believes bob s claims about the killing were attempts after the fact to sanitize what the evidence suggests was a brutal murder. it makes no sense. and if you look at the autopsy report it shows that morris had been beaten severely in the upper torso, and he even perhaps suffered a heart attack. so obviously something else was going on. reporter: after his arrest bob called his friends the altmans and tried to explain what happened. he said he went to a fugue state. he was an out of body experience. i it s hard to understand. reporter: charged with murder, bob durst also called his new wife, debrah charatan, who helped arrange $300,000 in cash for bail which he promptly skipped, got a car, and traveled the country sometimes using morris black s i.d.

Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20190908 08:33:00

dorothy ciner. although in his log, he wrote that he didn t like wearing a women s wig. it itched, it got in my eyes, unless it was on tight, which made my head sweat. but the version bob has told over the years, believes author matt birkbeck, doesn t tell the real story. certainly not of the famous killing of his elderly neighbor morris black. or of bob s activities in galveston and elsewhere. it was really strange, you know, him and black, palling around in galveston amongst the homeless. so what is a guy of his wealth and his family s influence doing stealing identities? reporter: in fact, in the spring of 2001, at the same time as he, as dorothy ciner, was living in galveston, he rented another room in new orleans under the name diane winn. we found the place, and his old landlord, michael ogden.

Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20190908 08:35:00

but matt birkbeck believes bob s claims about the killing were attempts after the fact to sanitize what the evidence suggests was a brutal murder. it makes no sense. and if you look at the autopsy report, it shows that morris had been beaten severely in the upper torso, and he even perhaps suffered a heart attack. so obviously something else was going on. reporter: after his arrest, bob called his friends, the altmans, and tried to explain what happened. he said he went to a fugue state. he was an out of body experience. i it s hard to understand. reporter: charged with murder, bob durst also called his new wife, debrah charatan, who helped arrange $300,000 in cash for bail which he promptly skipped, got a car, and traveled the country, sometimes using morris black s i.d. it was weeks later when they

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20190526:07:35:00

but matt birkbeck believes bob s claims about the killing were attempts after the fact to sanitize what the evidence suggests was a brutal murder. it makes no sense. and if you look at the autopsy report it shows that morris had been beaten severely in the upper torso, and he even perhaps suffered a heart attack. so obviously something else was going on. reporter: after his arrest bob called his friends the altmans and tried to explain what happened. he said he went to a fugue state. he was an out of body experience. i it s hard to understand. reporter: charged with murder, bob durst also called his new wife, debrah charatan, who helped arrange $300,000 in cash for bail which he promptly skipped, got a car, and traveled the country sometimes using morris black s i.d. it was weeks later when they finally caught him, shoplifting in bethlehem, pennsylvania.

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