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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20151219:08:08:00

nobody is perfect. no marriage ideal. sometimes with a little distance you see things. we weren t friends. we were neighbors. that s how i look to put it. right next door to the creamers, no more than a couple of track house walls and a strip of grass apart, lived a man who saw the creamers through a less rosy lens. this is randall howes, retired naval officer, and it was something about the chemistry with anna wasn t good. especially an altercation about his dogs. she said the dogs barked, barked. she really got mad. i said, okay, anna we re not having this conversation right now. i turned and walked away. and that really made her mad. after that, i never spoke to her. so there was tension across that strip of grass. and then howes got the idea that maybe ken had some trouble with anna s temper too, since ken gave howes the cold shoulder

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20151219:08:45:00

and how did it land? we did have the weapon in our jury room, and some of the men tried to get a feel for how it loaded up and then it takes a lot of strength to load that. but as they looked at the evidence and how the arrow that killed the woman, it went in straight. as they re-read ken creamer s testimony, his memory of the careless toss, the bag hitting the fridge, the loaded crossbow going off it physically was not possible. the physics of it disallowed it. then there was the neighbor, randall howes, whose memory suggested that creamer staged the scene, to make it look more like an accident. what persuaded you he was a credible can witness? his character on the witness stand. just an upright good man. yes. could he have been mistaken, do you think? no, i don t think there was any doubt. he told the truth. still, creamer said the

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20151219:08:13:00

i need an ambulance right now, 3089 polk drive. 3089 polk drive. please hurry. what has happened? sir? don t hang up with me. what s happened? sir? sir? there is a surreal quality to events so carved in memory, when lives unalterably change. odd, then, how completely those memories can and do diverge. it was no disagreement about this. a sunday morning when it happened. i was on my way to church. here s what the next-door neighbor, the retired navy commander, randall howes remembers. i was walking out through the garage, and i heard the dogs barking and someone was at the front door. i went around the corner of the garage. there was the 11-year-old neighbor boy. he was in his pajamas and he said, mr. randy, we need your help. he asked what are you saying?

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20151219:08:29:00

i saw anna laying there facedown with an arrow square in her back. but the true star of the case against ken creamer was the next-door neighbor. that retired naval commander, randall howes. ken is just kind of babbling, making noise or whatever, and saying, we need help, we need help now. remember, howes told us he saw something in the garage that jumped out at him much later. a detail about to assume a huge importance. as he stood there near anna s body, he testified, he was scanning the room, looking for that crossbow. on the far side of the refrigerator there was a cardboard box, and sitting on top of the cardboard box was the crossbow. i could see the front of it. mr. howes, i would like you to take a very careful look at that picture. you see a blue paper bag in front of the refrigerator in that picture, sir? yes, i do. was that blue paper bag in front of the refrigerator, as it is in that picture, when you went into the garage with mr. creamer? no, it wasn t.

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20151219:08:15:00

paper, the far side of the refrigerator. that s what howes remembered. the rest of us might have missed it. here s what else he saw. he was beside himself. he was very, very, very upset, agitated, and i ll say this. my impression was if you were standing on the edge of hell, when i walked in and i saw her laying down with the arrow in her back, it was my first impression was, it was a dead kill shot, because it looked like it went right through the heart. if it wasn t, it was very, very close, but it was dead on. i mean, 90 degrees, straight in. that s what you told the police? that s what i told the police. so if it had gone off by accident, it would have had to have hit that fridge, somehow hit at such an angle that the arrow that s right. in a strange coincidence, came out perfectly, but it would have been

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