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Dick cheney actually thinks. liz cheney is out to -- is out to change the republican party in a fundamental way, where she says anybody who is with donald trump, anybody who says that -- who adheres to the big lie, all of those people are not real republicans. her position seems to be a position -- i know a lot of the viewers of this network hate her other positions on other things. but she is not just anti-trump, she is anti-trumpism. >> right. >> i think one of the questions that you would hav...