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in to save shop businesses. retail will never, ever be the same again. if they don't change, what you're going to seize empty stores, very simple. it's like playground economics, it's not complicated. and in sport, promotion and relegation will still happen, in the 3 divisions, below the premier league, if the season, ends prematurely. and it may be one of the warmest may mornings on record that there is actually rain around this morning as strong winds had to the bank holiday weekend, i will have all the details later. it's friday 22nd may. our top story. 68 councils in england have told bbc breakfast they can't guarantee primary schools will re—open to reception, yeari and year 6 pupils, on june ist.teachers and parents have expressed concerns about safety in the classroom for larger numbers of children. the government will today publish the scientific evidence behind its decision for a phased return to schools in england. in a few minutes we'll have more on that breakfast survey with jayne mccubbin but first keith doyle has this report. the keith doyle has this report. ninth week of the offic for the ninth week of the official club for carers was enthusiastically followed as ever. from east london... to the scottish glens, people showed their appreciation. including the prime minister, and nhs staff who took over the helipad at st. george's hospital in london. socially distancing in perfect formation. there is less enthusiasm from pupils returning to school from the first ofjune. later today the government will release the scientific advice it received which led to say schools in england should start reopening for some pupils the date. go back and said we sitting before. this school in london is practising how social distancing may work but a survey for bbc brick distance found 68 councils in england say they can't guarantee primary schools will reopen to reception, yeari primary schools will reopen to reception, year i and primary schools will reopen to reception, yeari and year 6 on during the first. i'm going to get you to say our... you have to move fast to keep up with developments in the past 2a hours. the government announced a new swab test is being trialled in new hampshire —— hampshire, having your results in 20 minutes to let you know if you do have covid and 10 million antibody test to tell you if you had the virus will be rolled out from next week. and there's been a surcharge non—eu workers had to pay —— pay to cover nhs treatment they help deliver. the prime minister has asked the home secretary and i to asked the home secretary and i to ask how we can remove the nhs surcharge as soon ask how we can remove the nhs surcharge as soon as ask how we can remove the nhs surcharge as soon as possible and i'm pleased to be able to do that. i've spoken to the home secretary and we will be saying more and how we do this in the next few days. more details of also been given on the quarantine that will be introduced for people, including britons, entering the country, with spot checks on where they are staying. 0n the bbc‘s question time, a government minister answered criticism that the quarantine should have been brought in weeks or months ago. one of the reasons quarantine is going to come on now to the end of the pandemic rather than in the middle of it because when the number of cases in circulation in the population is so much larger than those being brought in by air passengers, there is no point having a quarantine. they represented less than 0.5% of the caseload. now that our domestic caseload is going down and there is some prospect that our trouble will go up, it becomes relatively more important in measures like quarantine become more significant. the government will give more details on this later today including the prospect of a £1000 fine for people breaking the quarantine rules. let's speak now to our political correspondent, jonathan blake. jonathan, we're due to get a number of important updates later which could influence lockdown measures, what can we expect to hear? several announcements to watch out for today, not least as you are hearing, that announcement that travellers coming into the uk from overseas will be asked to quarantine for 1h days. overseas will be asked to quarantine for 14 days. there are exceptions from road hall is, those coming to work on the nhs, other than that outside of the common travel area which includes the republic of ireland and the channel islands, people's details will be taken and they will be asked to self isolate. anyone breaking that rule could be subject to a £1000 fine. we will hear later on the guidance from the government scientific advisory group, letting it decided save to open schools from the first ofjune in england so teachers unions and pa rents in england so teachers unions and parents will be watching out keenly for that to see the basis on which the government has made the decision and we will find out the latest r number, the all—important figure which gives us the government's best estimate as to how quickly and how far the virus is spreading around the uk, how many people it's passed on for everyone person in fact did. important to remember when that crucial number as revealed later today, there is a lag of two weeks so today, there is a lag of two weeks so it doesn't necessarily take into account the recent relaxing of restrictions. an online book of remembrance, to commemorate those who have died from coronavirus, has been organised by st paul's cathedral. family members, friends and carers of anyone who has died can submit a name, photograph and a short message to pay tribute to their loved ones. the memorial book, called ‘remember me', has received the support of the prince of wales who said the outbreak had "brought tragedy and heartbreak for too many". police have found a body in the search for a 16—year—old girl who went missing almost two weeks ago. louise smith was last seen on ve day in havant in hampshire. search and rescue teams have been scouring country parks and woodland nearby. formal identification has yet to take place, but louise's family have been informed. police say they're treating the death as suspicious. ahead of the bank holiday weekend, visitors are being warned to follow the lockdown measures, after thousands of people flocked to beaches across england this week to enjoy the hot weather. police in newquay tweeted that tourists had stayed overnight in camper vans, which is against the current legislation. meanwhile in bournemouth, the council urged people to go home if the beach looked too busy. the duke and duchess of cambridge have thanked care workers for their efforts during the pandemic. theyjoined residents and staff at a care home in cardiff via a video call and even tried their hands at being bingo callers. catherine is going to pick out the first ball. so the first number is five and eight, 58. one little duck, number two. eight and seven, 87. six and two, ticketing boom. do you think they knew those?” think they might have done a bit of homework may conscientious, good fun. it's just ten days before all primary schools in england are due to open under the planned phased return of lessons. but how many classrooms will be open to all schools will reopen? to get the picture from across the country, we surveyed 150 councils in england and about two thirds responded. 68 councils in england said that they can't guarantee primary schools will open further to reception, year1 and year 6 pupils, onjune1. of those, 13 say they will categorically be advising schools not to reopen to a greater number of pupils. just 20 say they're following government advice on a return to school at the start of next month. and at least 11 authorities in england are still considering their position. jayne's at st elizabeth's primary school in bootle for us this morning. jayne, how are preparations going there? schools like saint elizabeth savant been closed since lock down much the 20th, not at all that they've only been open to vulnerable children and children of key workers in the government's stated ambition has been to hit this during the first date, to start a phased full reopening that you've discussed. 68 authorities have told us they can't guarantee that. but for the rest of those authorities, 55 authorities, they are going to leave it down to they are going to leave it down to the wisdom, the judgement, they are going to leave it down to the wisdom, thejudgement, the risk assessments. head teachers at schools like this. at this sort of —— authority in sefton, they said they are going to aim for two weeks later. during the 15th. we returned to the school because another school thatis to the school because another school that is going to try and stick to that is going to try and stick to that during the first date. have a look at this. walk with us into water in primary school along the one—way system and see the quandary facing parents whose children may or may not be going back to school in ten days' time, like harrison's mum.” going back to school in ten days' time, like harrison's mum. i was descended back, is no way he would stay away from his friends. his miss them way too much and as much as teachers want to social distance, it's not going to happen. and ruby's itiuiti. it's not going to happen. and ruby's mum. some days i think am i doing the right thing, should they go back, but other days, they have to go back at some point whether it's i'iow go back at some point whether it's now or insert timber. this is tricky. —— now or in september. this school is preparing to allow reception, year1 school is preparing to allow reception, year 1 and school is preparing to allow reception, year1 and year 6 back on during the first. had mr nairn says it's the right thing. it doesn't begin to compare to having a high—quality teacher in front of you, being at home. but it been easy. one of the most difficult things i wrestled with —— with was the balance of listening to the silent —— science and keeping our children safe and we still don't know enough about the transmission rates among young children. this is the latest scientific advice. it conclusively says that the severity of the disease is lower in children than in adults but when it comes to the susceptibility to the virus and the susceptibility to the virus and the ability to pass it on, the evidence is, well, it's sketchy. just part of the reason this school in sefton isn't planning on doing anything different on during the first. instead, they are bagging two weeks more preparation time and aiming forjune 15. basically our local authority said they agreed during the first is too soon. mr daniels told parents in a letter they would do all they could to make it safe as possible but warned school was not the safest place to be. you wrote to parents to say the safest place for them is still not here but at home. guidance, different reports coming out daily. i can't tell parents either way. that's up to them to take because they all have different circumstances at home. the feedback and parents? the feedback we've had, the potential for 240 and parents? the feedback we've had, the potentialfor 240 children, we have less than 20 parents who said they would be willing to send their children in. amongst those who said no, alexis and mum linda.” children in. amongst those who said no, alexis and mum linda. i will make a more informed decision about sending her back later but it's so close to the end of term, what is the point? joseph as his -- joseph and his parents said no. not yet. still too early to go back, personally. they've been given the option to send evie, deacon and joycejunior option to send evie, deacon and joyce junior back in option to send evie, deacon and joycejunior back in the next few weeks but they are not convinced. when they are sitting next to each other, but until then, when they are sitting next to each other, but untilthen, don't when they are sitting next to each other, but until then, don't bother asking us. you need to be testing as many as you can. what you are saying is, if the test and tracking was way ahead of where they are, that's the thing? it is, yes. that absolutely is the aim but for lleyton, who told us is the aim but for lleyton, who told us two weeks ago you couldn't wait to go back... i don't want to go back now. you don't want to go back? it doesn't go safe to go back. what will you need to see and hear to give you confidence? more positive news. positivity about a june one back—to—school date for year 6 at saint elizabeth's in in short supply. more scientific guidance is expected later today. we'd like nothing more than a school full of children but show us the signs and we can work towards it. —— the science. we are talking about england but it's important to say in scotland, the phased reopening or opening up of schools, the aim is from august the 11th. northern ireland, that month. wales hasn't decided. nothing has been stated but in england, this is the day all eyes are focused on. the government advice so far says that actually, only 2% of hospital admissions involved children. they said the severity of the disease in children is lower than adults but when it comes to this crucial issue, our kids super spreaders or super safe ? our kids super spreaders or super safe? the evidence is sketchy. they say it is mixed and provides a low degree of confidence. everybody is going to be really keen to hear what sage is going to say? will it give us more sage is going to say? will it give us more confidence and i should say the government has said, it will listen to all of the concerns of pa rents listen to all of the concerns of parents and teachers to reopen schools and at the briefing on wednesday, the culture secretary said the move would only go ahead if ministers can be sure of children's safety but to date, teachers unions backed by the british medical association say during the first is not the date they should. thank you very much. we'll have more with you later on the programme. something we will be talking about much more on the programme. let's take a look at today's papers. the daily telegraph says mps will be asked to back new quarantine measures for all international arrivals, that will give police the power to carry out spot checks at home and impose £1,000 fines. the guardian claims that pressure from within his own party led borisjohnson to make the first u—turn of his leadership and scrap the fees that migrant health workers must pay to use the nhs. the daily mail has details of the trial of a new 20—minute swab test to check who has had coronavirus. the paper says it could be rolled out nationally within six weeks, if it's deemed to be effective. and on bbc news online this morning, there's an appeal from celebrities, including baker nadiya hussain and citizen khan creator adil ray, who are urging those marking eid this weekend to follow social distancing guidelines by staying at home and celebrating with family online instead. take a look at the inside pages. a quick one for you, charlie. do you name your car, does yorker a name? no. did you ever have a car with a name? no. a helping with this survey? you are not helping or hindering. guess how many people named their cars? 6096. no, just a third. women are more likely to christen their motor. the most popular name? jo. doesn't even christen their motor. the most popular name7m doesn't even make the top ten. nettey. are they primarily ladies peoples names? —— betty. women tend to choose predominantly female names. 0ne betty. women tend to choose predominantly female names. one of them is colin. colin. how do you clear —— how clever anything gohdes are? if you were to rank them? very clever. i would think they were number two or three in the list. this one, there has been received, they are brighter than given credit for. i thought they have the reputation for being quite stupid. they understand human pointing gestures in much the same way as dogs and horses. the exponent has confused me a little. the exponent so confused me a little. the exponent soa confused me a little. the exponent so a researcher pointing to two buckets, one with food and one without, and they tend to choose the one with the food in it. that is they have decided gohdes are clever. this is in the daily about tomatoes. a lot of people are obsessed by food at the moment. you think how you can keep things for longer. tomatoes, do you keep them in the fridge? there isa you keep them in the fridge? there is a debate, isn't there? if you keep them in the fridge, they get very cold, some get hard, and they seem very cold, some get hard, and they seem to not have as much taste. and when you go to the mediterranean or mediterranean countries, if you're lucky enough to go, the first thing they do is eat a tomato because they are so they do is eat a tomato because they are so flavoursome, that —— they simply kept outside. a new study has found it does not matter if they are children at room temperature because their taste remains the same. —— kept chilled. they still tomatoes at varying temperatures before the giving them to an expert panel of food taste is they found no significant difference. the first thing i'd do when they go abroad is eat a tomato. it is a scientific tester would like to be involved in. eating tomatoes? i will put myself forward for that one. it could be done. nhs staff and care workers, who come from outside the eu, will not have to pay a £400 surcharge for the right to use the health service. currently all non—eu migrants have to pay the fees but after mounting pressure, borisjohnson announced yesterday all those working in the nhs and care sector will be exempt. we'rejoined now by dame donna kinnair, chief executive and general secretary of the royal college of nursing. good to have you back on the programme this morning. thank you for joining programme this morning. thank you forjoining us. what do you make of this turnaround ? forjoining us. what do you make of this turnaround? well, i'm really pleased and they welcome the news on behalf of my members stop we've been campaigning for two years to get this unfair immigration health surcharge removed. so it's really welcome news to see that, you know, the government have done a u—turn on this. but it's a shame it took a pandemic to get us to this place. do you think it is because of the situation with coronavirus, if it weren't for that, and i don't want to put words into your mouth, and the perception of nhs workers now, do you think that's what it took was yellow well, i think so. we have always work the way we were coming have always looked after our patients with skill and experience. it feels as though the nation have stood up and watched the poor relations over health and social workers fight this pandemic and therefore we've had some changes that have helped. who is this going to benefit the most? welcome i think the individual nurses are going to benefit, but, actually, as a daughter of the windrush generation, i think scrapping this health surcharge means they are welcoming the services of overseas nurses. you can see that since the start of the nhs, immigrants and overseas people have worked in it to help and be successful. do think this is going change the image of those who come from outside the u into the nhs, change the image of them and their treatment? -- outside the eu. it is time for the nhs to stand up and ta ke time for the nhs to stand up and take notice of those who are helping it deliver services to the people of this country. so we have seen throughout this pandemic that nurses have stepped up to the plate. they have stepped up to the plate. they have been professional, they have gone beyond in the many, many cases, and i've personally have worked on the front line with some of them and have been amazed. so i think it should change the perception but we will have to wait and see. you or the royal college of nursing represents around 450,000 nursing staff across the uk and we have had you on this programme several times to talk to you about how nurses feel at the moment, as the mood changes, and we hear the clapper for at the moment, as the mood changes, and we hear the clapperfor carers, we hear this news as well, this turnaround, what is the mood like amongst nursing staff at the moment? i think this pandemic has been ongoing. as i said, nurses have been stretched and they have been working extremely hard, but i think we have seen extremely hard, but i think we have seen the professionalism and the dedication maintained. and, i guess, when i'd talk to my nurses the thing is that they want most is for people to recognise their skill, but as they are getting tired we will need to use those that have stepped forward , to use those that have stepped forward, who have come back from retirement to help to deliver care, because we know that this pandemic is going to be with us for some time. have they been prepared for a second wave? well, we were always prepared for a second wave. we have to be. because, actually, we know that that is a possibility. so nurses everywhere recognise that, you know, until we've got a vaccine for this virus anything is possible. i suppose what i'm asking is in the immediate term, as in right now. not specifically. 0bviously immediate term, as in right now. not specifically. obviously is a consideration that we have been having an talking about. so the preparation for a second wave will be the same as the preparation for the first wave that we've had stop so the first wave that we've had stop so it means that we will continue, but we do need to have the resources to be able to deliver services going forward. dame donna kinnair, from royal college of nursing, thank you for your time this morning. after two months of empty casino tables and silent slot machines, the bright lights of las vegas are starting to flicker back on. 42 million people travel to the city every year and with manyjobs reliant on tourism, businesses are doing all they can to encourage visitors to return, as sophie long reports. the party that once raged here is over. the big question is, will revellers ever roll back into town? terrorism is to las vegas for the automotive industry is to detroit, what music is to nashville, government to washington, dc. without it, without the people, there is no party. in the economic impact of this eerily quiet and empty strip is rippling across the city. at the peak of the great recession our unemployment rate in southern nevada was around 13— 14%, very high by historical standards. as you and i sit here today that unemployment rate is roughly 30%. so evenif unemployment rate is roughly 30%. so even if we bring two—thirds of those employees back online we're to have an unemployment rate that is substantially higher than we sent historically. people here are conflicted. they are desperate to return to work, but they are scared to do so. not everyone will get the chance. this casino would normally be full of more than 4000 people. the sounds of the 800 slot machines spitting out coins, the clickety clack of roulette wheels spinning. but now all you can hear is the air—conditioning system. and the problem is, even when casinos are allowed to reopen the doors, until tourists feel safe enough to board planes in order to walk through them, they will remain at varying degrees of empty. never he has ever been through this before. so we have all these analysts and stop saying it will take 1.52 all these analysts and stop saying it will take1.52 2.5 all these analysts and stop saying it will take 1.52 2.5 years to recover, but this hasn't happened. quite honestly, 30% of those people could lose their jobs quite honestly, 30% of those people could lose theirjobs permanently. las vegas is starting to reopen. there are already scenes reminiscent of the lives we used to live and further preparations are under way. you can see the lights are on. we are testing. we are making sure that everything is operable, operating. we are testing new equipment. we will be fogging the area every day, almost like ghostbusters style, with disinfectant. and our staff, we are preparing our staff to wear ppe, to make sure they are all safe. it's tight, but still in business. elvis impersonators are squeezing back into their jumpsuits and impersonators are squeezing back into theirjumpsuits and are ready to follow the new rules, aware that only falls russian. i'm normally very walk in, sheikh, where you're from, sometimes ask for a hug, very walk in, sheikh, where you're from, sometimes ask fora hug, so very walk in, sheikh, where you're from, sometimes ask for a hug, so to have that stand off now that we have to do with people, it's going to be, it's a sad, but you still have to do with a smile and make them feel, and congratulations them, or saying you're open, where on our way. these first couples, what a great thing. they say we want to get married, we love each other. so we're here to rock their world, celebrate, and say good for you. irene and douglas, the first couple to offer living proof that the coronavirus can't conquer love. now you know how elvis impersonators are going about their business in las vegas post coronavirus. you know what you need to be a good elvis impersonators? good voice, nice white what else? signing was. you know what is going on, matt? —— sign language. you need an impressive... you need to have all the bits for them to work. shall we just do the weather? i like making you awkward. good morning, both of you. from a hunk of burning love to some burning skies. red sky in the morning, doesn't say good things are ahead as far as the weather is concerned. a little bit of welcome rain through the next few days. there will be very strong winds around. unseasonably strong for this time of year vehicle across the northern half of the country. things are going to turn cooler relative to recent days, but nothing particularly chilly. that is certainly the case this morning. 0ne of the warmest may mornings on record, temperatures in the last hour or two 19— 20 degrees in central london. in double figures for many, but we have ran across the country at the moment. in particular across scotland, a band of rain pushing across england at the moment as well. not producing much across southern counties where many desperately needed. that may be the only chance for some of you over the coming days. the rain clearing away from the south—east corner by mid—morning. most places breaking up through the morning. sunshine for a time but shall start to pack into the west and for parts of western scotla nd the west and for parts of western scotland we will see more persistent rain and around the western highlands and that will be setting the scene, not just highlands and that will be setting the scene, notjust for the afternoon but for the rest of this coming bank holiday weekend. winds also featured today, becoming strong and gusty in the west. could touch 50-60 and gusty in the west. could touch 50—60 mph to northern western part of the country, could cause travel disruption. putting in rough seas to the west of scotland. temperatures, compared to recent days, down a little bit, but not bad for the time of year. 16— 23 degrees. into the evening and overnight it was a fairly blustery across the country. that will continue to be the showers in at the west. notice the blue colours never quite leave the western highlands, remaining wet here throughout. temperatures still holding up for many between eight and 12 celsius. the big picture for the weekend shows the area of low pressure that has been bringing the strong winds only slowly clearing away. we continue to pile on weather fronts to these western parts of scotland. it is a bit of a north—south split. for england and wales, something onjobs, some heavy and thundery. scotland and northern ireland sells more frequent and across western scotland the more persistent rain will be and it stays windy. why scared —— widespread gales across the north of the country and temperatures dropping. saturday night into sunday, the wind continued, the rentals and across western scotland. dry across areas into sunday where it will be starting to warm up again as the winds ease. in the north the witsel isa winds ease. in the north the witsel is a touch and the rain becomes lighter and patio. certainly as we go through the coming days we will see rain. the risk of flooding with over 100 millimetres possible over the next three days. the wind strongest across the north as well, touching 60 mph in places. it is a bank holiday weekend. back to you. a smorgasbord of stuff when it comes to weather. the bit of everything this weekend. thank you. see you soon. this weekend. thank you. see you soon. there hello this is breakfast with charlie stayt and naga munchetty. we'll bring you all the latest news and sport in a moment, but also on breakfast this morning. earlier this week, crowds flocked to beaches in england to enjoy the hot weather. we'll hear from visit cornwall about its concerns around tourism, as the bank holiday weekend approaches. after a special welcome home, we'll bejoined by the hospital consultant who spent 5 weeks in intensive care, being treated by his colleagues for coronavirus. the cast of the mockumentary series w1a has been reunited for a lockdown special. we'll speak to actors sarah parish and jason watkins. good morning, here's a summary of today's main stories from bbc news. 68 councils in england have told bbc breakfast they can't guarantee primary schools will open to all reception, year1 and year6 pupils, on june 1st. the government will publish the scientific evidence behind its decision for a phased return to schools in england today. teachers and parents have expressed concerns about safety in the classroom for larger numbers of pupils. the department for education says the decision is based on the best scientific and medical advice. plans to quarantine travellers from overseas to try and prevent a second outbreak of covid—19 in the uk, are expected to be outlined by the home secretary today. possible measures could include spot checks and fines of a thousand pounds, if visitors fail to self—isolate for 14 days. ministers say quarantine measures are more important now that infections have reduced among uk residents. an online book of remembrance, to commemorate those who have died from coronavirus, has been organised by st paul's cathedral. family members, friends and carers of anyone who has died can submit a name, photograph and a short message to pay tribute to their loved ones. the memorial book, called ‘remember me', has received the support of the prince of wales who said the outbreak had "brought tragedy and heartbreak for too many". police have found a body in the search for a 16—year—old girl who went missing almost two weeks ago. louise smith was last seen on ve day in havant in hampshire. search and rescue teams have been scouring country parks and woodland nearby. formal identification has yet to take place, but louise's family have been informed. police say they're treating the death as suspicious. ahead of the bank holiday weekend, visitors are being warned to follow the lockdown measures, after thousands of people flocked to beaches across england this week to enjoy the hot weather. police in newquay tweeted that tourists had stayed overnight in camper vans, which is against the current legislation. meanwhile in bournemouth, the council urged people to go home if the beach looked too busy. now it's time to answer some of your questions relating to coronavirus with gp, doctorjamie parker whojoins us from nottingham. very good morning to you. how are you? good thank you. are you on duty today? after this i will dropping the kids often heading into work. let's talk about some of the issues i wonder how much your patients talking to you. i wanted to ask about testing. there is a lot of talk about existing tests at the moment, whether you have covid—19 but the antibody test to find out if you've had it and there is more of a rollout coming on. are you getting many of your patients asking you about the test? the tests have been in the press a lot. there is the antigen test which is the swab which tells you if you got it now and the antibody test which tells you if you have had it i think there is a lot of excitement about the antibody test but it's important to say we are trying to understand, there are lots of things we don't know about this in one of the things we don't know is even if you've had it in your antibody test is positive, what we don't know is, if that means you are immune from getting coronavirus again and secondly, what we don't know is that you can actually spread the illness still. while yes, the antibody tests are positive in understanding the coronavirus, i wouldn't rely on them and so you are immune from it. it's an important point because the next question people might ask, if and when they've had the antibody test, supposing it shows they've had it, they might ask, how can i adapt my life because i now have this information? what would you be saying to people? the antibody test is not available at the moment on the nhs. the track and trace, the antigen test, the swa bs. and trace, the antigen test, the swabs. i'm aware the antibody tests are becoming available privately but we don't know what the implications of having it up. we need to follow the advice from the government regarding that. there have been stories about people trying to access tests privately. have you had people asking you about that? yes, and that's not just people asking you about that? yes, and that's notjust the public, its other doctors as well. have i had it, were those symptoms a few weeks ago the coronavirus or have i had just had it without knowing it? you've got to be really cautious. we do not know the implications of the positive results and a lot of studies are going forward. i would advise extreme caution about those tests. this one from norman. it may bea tests. this one from norman. it may be a thought process. if supermarkets are open and we know they have been for some time. why aren't pubs open as well? any space like that can be arranged. why should there be a difference made? were still looking at a situation where we need to try and keep the transmission of coronavirus no. the new advice from the government that this state of alert, one of the key m essa g es of this state of alert, one of the key messages of the stay alert thing is stay—at—home if you can. the argument there, a supermarket, you can get food. pubs are not seen as essential. we talk a lot about people's mental health. as lockdown continues. it could be adding to existing problems. we are seeing an increasing number of calls, notjust now but the fallout from coronavirus four months and in my opinion, years to come after this. doctorjamie parker, thank you very much. good luck with the day that lies ahead of you. we will talk to you again another time stop very great shelf by the way, very good organisational skills. there been loads of debate about how put all results were decided. last week the scottish premier league, celtic, with as champions? relegated, indeed. the conversation is obviously, what is going to happen with hourly? the legs are pretty much agreed to end the season now. but it's the issue right across the three divisions that really has been dividing teams and clubs. it's what to do with the season can't be completed. and it could come down to one vote either way. the english football league has revealed its plan, that if the season ends early, clubs will still be promoted and relegated, and playoffs will still take place and positions would be decided by average points per game. all that's needed now, is for 51 per—cent of clubs, to agree, to this plan, or try to finish the season. league two clubs, have already, agreed to end the season, while in league one tranmere rovers, are protesting. they would be relegated, as things stand and argue its unfair to change the rules now. we are desperately disappointed. we've had a policy every year of trying to be prudent with our money and preserving money for the january tra nsfer and preserving money for the january transfer window to use it needed which we did. and that was starting to pay real dividends this year. we won three games in a row and we were very confident that staying up, we we re very confident that staying up, we were able to play out the remaining fixtures. there will be more meetings today is the story unfolds. weeks without football, have already cost the top clubs, in the premier league, tens of millions of pounds. manchester united say the break, has set the club back an initial £28 million and their chief financial officer say they will have to hand back, £20 million in tv revenue, even if the season is completed. meanwhile it's going to be at least another two weeks, before premiership rugby clubs, even return to basic training. the professional game board, say "more time is needed" to plan the sport's safe return, ending hopes of a resumption of the season, in earlyjuly. there are still nine rounds of matches and playoffs to be completed. now some positive news for sports in scotland. non—contact activities including tennis, fishing and golf will be allowed to resume from next week — following first minister, nicola sturgeon's announcement, on a planned relaxation of lockdown measures. much like other parts of the uk, they'll all be subject to appropriate hygiene, and distancing measures. and finally, do you know ever get confused with someone else? as former manchester united star yaap stam was named as the new manager of cin—cinati, in america, his new club tweeted a picture of the wrong man — another tall dutchman with no hair, but the chap on the left is a youth coach in holland, not the real yap stam who's on the right there...but he would do well in a lookalike competition. there is a doppelganger for us all, i think. i've got quite a few. chris hollins in the past. i often get very flattering tweets comparing me to dec from ant and dec. andy young jfk. to dec from ant and dec. andy young jfk, indeed. these are all great likenesses, we will check them mole. i should just say, it's a sign of this life, i thought the scottish premier league was last week, but it happened on monday. time goes quick or slowly or however the mind works. now we know, that's the main thing. every business in the country has been impacted by coronavirus, but there can't be many sectors of the economy more affected than high street shops. we'll get an update on retail sales today and ben is going to be taking a look. what are we expecting, ben? please correct me if i'm wrong. we aren't expecting the numbers to be fantastic. it's about what really —— retailers can do to adapt. spot on. with an anecdotal figures from many retailers. m&s telling us of a big slump. shops have been closed. we are buying more because we are staying at home, so food shops have been able to stay open so the big question, when all this is over, will retail bounce back? so will things just revert to normal once this is all over? no, according to one veteran of the retail industry. theo paphitis — owns the stationery firm rymans, and the homeware firm robert dyas. but he's best known for his role on the tv show dragons den. he told our retail correspondent emma simpson that retail will never be the same again. i was iwasa i was a shopkeeper for a very long time and that's why the beard is my lock to —— lockdown beard. the impact of this on retail, notjust coronavirus but the lockdown, it's been immense already. the longer it's on for, the longer people have the opportunity to change their habits, change their shopping habits, change their shopping habits, their retail habits and have adopted digital retailing, on line retailing, by the masses. is retail ever going to return to what it used to be before lockdown? retail will never, ever be the same again. every year, we will see a higher uptake in on line sales in comparison to retail sales. what this lockdown has done, it's probably exhilarated, in my personal view, the whole transition by at least five years but mrs p, every day, she is on her keyboard and ordering on line and she never did that before and she actually quite likes it there is no way she is going to change your habits now. and what does this mean for high stress? having change their habits, will get less footfall on high streets. having change their habits because people are more digital, they will have to be quite a reduction of rental values of sorts, otherwise you are going to find that there will be shopping centres and high streets with many, many empty stores. but the biggest key area of change will come from retail business rates. this chancellor will have no option but to completely overhaul business rates. so those spaces will have to change. if they don't change what you will see is empty stores. it's very simple. it's like playground economics, is not complicated. if your costs are more than the money your costs are more than the money you are bringing in you can't survive. how do you think your business that is going to emerge from lockdown? there is no question will come out this with, the realistic view is, with fewer stores. we will come out of this with a bigger online business. we will try to protect as many of our collea g u es will try to protect as many of our colleagues at possible, and that's the key thing for us at the moment. and see how we can adapt our physical store business in ways that create small business. and that's the model we've been doing. and, at the model we've been doing. and, at the moment, we are confident it's going to be a long journey, it's going to be a long journey, it's going to be a long journey, it's going to be a difficultjourney, but we are confident that over time we will be able to come out of this a new business. looking a little different to how he does, many will know from dragon ‘s den, the bbc business show. we get those figures at seven o'clock this morning. those figures expected to mark that big slump in sales for april. perhaps no huge surprise. i think as you heard there, it's how business now respond to that. i'd clearly those firms that have a strong online presence have managed to do pretty well out of this. all of us getting things delivered to our homes, but the retailers who have not got bad and have got lots of stock in stores, they could find it costs them quite a lot. m again telling us this week there is £200 million worth of its stock that was intended to be sold now for late summer, they are going to put that into storage and flog it to put that into storage and flog it to us next year and the orders they haven't yet received they have cancelled altogether. so lots of debate, lots of discussion, lots of planning going on behind the scenes now to make sure they have the right stuff in the right stores at the right time. it is pretty telling that mns say they have sold very, very few suits of the last few weeks and the boss telling us that the number of ties they have sold he could count on one hand. i think charlie and me are some of the only people wearing ties. we have a purpose. have you bought new ties? no, i'm waiting for them to be cheap, they will flog them. the retailers will love you. thanks. music venues across the uk have reported significant financial losses, but now the boss of the royal albert hall has told bbc breakfast he hopes they will be open for business by the autumn. more than 1,000 events were hosted at the venue last year but in the last two months there have been none, which has prompted artists to introduce drive—in gigs and virtual reality performances. here's our entertainment correspondent colin paterson. music plays. the royal albert hall, packed on the first night of the proms 2019. less than one year later, katherinejenkins would perform on the same stage for ve day, with no audience allowed. 0ne of the world's busiest concert venues, is desperate to reopen, having lost a 5p in revenue in the two months since its coronavirus closure. but there are hopes shows could return in the autumn. and there have been looking to south korea for inspiration. there is a theatre insole putting on phantom of theatre insole putting on phantom of the opera at the moment. and as a 2000 seat theatre and it is only to 80% capacity. and the reason they are able to do that as people sitting pretty much on regular seats as you would normally do, you have a lot of checks and balances on the way into the theatre. so all the audience members where masks, all the stewards wear masks, there are security does, testing on the way m, security does, testing on the way in, sanitising as you come into the venue, and it's really, really scrupulous. country superstar keith urban has a new albin, the speed of now out in september so he is determined to find a way to going to. last week he played a drive—in gig outside nashville. # your hand in mine, we were going nowhere...? we were so alive. i felt like i was in that cartoon cars, you know pixar? head lice and everything. thank you so much, —— had lights. for someone like me who is used to playing all the time, even if you months of not playing live is very strange. so when the idea of the drive—in came about, it was like yeah, let's do that. how practical would be to do a full driving tour? in theory it should be easy to do, the that complicates as you just can't get that many cars in there and then the idea of travelling around difficult because no matter how minimal your crew is an hour crew is incredibly lean, minimal crew, you still have to figure how to get everyone around. so i don't know if we are going to be able to pull that off. i would be offered doing more local ones. —— up for doing. foo fighters headlined last yea r‘s doing. foo fighters headlined last year's reading doing. foo fighters headlined last yea r‘s reading and doing. foo fighters headlined last year's reading and leeds festivals, both have cancelled in 2020, but the man behind them, melvin ben, is adamant that outdoor gigs will return next spring and he's already started booking acts. in the absence ofa started booking acts. in the absence of a vaccine we need to create an environment where people can still feel relatively confident that they can go into a space and feel, you know, comfortable about bumping into anybody. think festivals will feel similar. i'm not planning a socially distanced reading or glastonbury festival, for instance. but at manchester's band in the well, they don't see her shows can return as long as there are social distancing rules. it's about reducing a 340 capacity venue to about 60 people. if you were to keep the two metre distance between them all. and that's probably being quite generous. # give your all to me. # give my all to you. that's the kind of reason why some major acts have been turning to virtual reality gigs. been turning to virtual reality gigs, where fans at home where headsets. john legend performed one in la last weekend. it's really a show intel technology, once people said that is how you get it. you can obviously watch it on your phone, the app, if you have than a database you feel like you're in the room, it feels likejohn you feel like you're in the room, it feels like john legend you feel like you're in the room, it feels likejohn legend is performing with you on the piano one—on—one.. 0h, love me now... with you on the piano one—on—one.. oh, love me now... virtual reality, indeed, the actual reality it may be many more months before mosh pit ‘s. colin paterson, bbc news. let's talk about another side of the lockdown. the soaring temperatures this week have prompted crowds to flock to beaches across england to enjoy the hot weather. police in newquay are encouraging visitors to only travel to the seaside resort for day trips during the bank holiday, after some were found to be camping overnight, which is against the lockdown legislation in england. we're joined now from truro by malcolm bell who is the head of tourism at visit cornwall. good morning to you. thanks very much. you hear about people camping overnight and, i suppose in this day and age we think really, other people getting the message? what are you seeing? i think that's it. we try to get the message across. some people probably stress reality a bit by saying i am not staying in a hotel, i am by saying i am not staying in a hotel, iam not by saying i am not staying in a hotel, i am not in a b&b or cottage. the messages we want you to come back. when we get the steps through we can open up tourism. we want you back. please stick to the guidelines and please don't break the law. like cinderella you have to be back in your own bed before midnight. that's a nice way to put it, actually. what about an incident, think someone slept in their car overnight, there was a kayak involved. yes. we had somebody who came down from leicester, they slept in the car, went out in their car, went out and see, capsized, could not get back m, see, capsized, could not get back in, and fortunately someone spotted them and the lifeboat got there just in time to stop is not only dangerous to that point —— person but the lifeboat crew as well. we are seeing the lifeguards aren't on the beach, you have to be very, very careful stop we are thinking at this time to get the message across, think carefully, think twice, plan and stay safe. 0ur plea would be we are in step one of the lockdown, we wa nt to are in step one of the lockdown, we want to get to steps two and three. if all of us play our part in sticking to the rules we can get to the freedoms we want, but not if we break the rules and things go wrong and things get extended. the last thing we want to do is go backwards. we have enjoyed a week of a bit of extra freedom. let's all play by the rule so we can extra freedom. let's all play by the rule so we can carry on extra freedom. let's all play by the rule so we can carry on enjoying it safely. lisa neruay have said only do day trips. how can you in terms of day trips, i'm thinking of parking and public toilets, for example? that's the other chalice, with the bars, cafes, and hotel shot, you have the toilet shot. some parishes have opened toilets, some haven't a —— shot. 0ne parishes have opened toilets, some haven't a —— shot. one of the things we're saying, it's not because we don't love you in cornwall, but to drive for miles to go to cornwall and then save a couple of hours it is limited facilities, maybe there is limited facilities, maybe there is somewhere closer. we would love to have you back and we will welcome with open arms when you do come back, for some people may be an hour or so back, for some people may be an hour or so driving is as much as you should be doing. malcolm, thank you for joining should be doing. malcolm, thank you forjoining us. we will take the advice to impersonate cinderella, in bed by midnight. malcolm bell, head of tourism, visit cornwall. there will be a time, we have been hearing, for trips to the beaches, but all that caution about what you should be doing still applies regardless of the weather. exactly. we have the whole of some ahead of us. we have the whole of some ahead of us. not out of spring it. the heat of recent days is beginning to abate. it has been a different start out there this morning in cumbria. not quite as much sunshine. sunshine are breaking through the overnight rain clouds. we will be seeing more rain clouds. we will be seeing more rain over the next few days, non— half of the uk in particular. pretty strong winds to go with it as well. that could cause travel disruption and, compared to the past three days, it will be cold about temperatures around where they should be for the time of year and women of any sunshine where you get it, especially across the south. where we start on an incredibly mild night to this morning. close to me overnight records. 19 degrees in central london. we have seen rain sweep central london. we have seen rain sweep across central london. we have seen rain sweep across the country, narrowband bushings with cross england at the moment. not much rain for the gardens in the south. more persistent in northern scotland and clearing from elsewhere. a big gap in the skies, so sunshine for a while before she was pushing later. showers were working through the morning to northern ireland, spreading into scotland, resistant around the western highlands. 0ne spreading into scotland, resistant around the western highlands. one or two showers in the afternoon and northern and western parts. much of england and wales and a good part of eastern scotland will be dry and sunny through the afternoon. as i said, it will be a windy afternoon. wind scutt ‘s ivan 62 mph, especially across the northern half of the country. that will make it feel cooler than it has done. temperature rise, around where we should be, if not a little higher in glasgow and aberdeen. 22 celsius in the south—east corner, down on the 28 from yesterday. it will remain mild through the coming note. not quite as mild. showers in the west. persistent rain around the western highlands of scotland and temperatures dipping down into single figures for some of you as we start the bank holiday weekend. into the weekend we go, we have that low pressure system to the north of us. an unusually deep area of low pressure for the time of year, which will persist with the strong winds and rain into northern areas. as does jesus we and rain into northern areas. as doesjesus we go through the second half of the weekend and high pressure builds from the south, many many places will be dry. 0r england and wales many will be drivers of a scattering of showers, sunshine in between. some showers heavy boundary. showers will keep going across scotland and northern ireland, wettest conditions in the west of scotland. discloses to where they should be for the time of year. moreno moser scotland on sunday. dry in the south. i will have all the details in half—an—hour. the headlines are next. good morning — welcome to breakfast with charlie stayt and naga munchetty. 0ur headlines today: ten days before more pupils are due to go back to school in england — 68 councils tell breakfast they cant guarantee all schools will be open. more than 10,000 people are being recruited for the next phase of human trials for a coronavirus vaccine. spot checks and fines of up to £1,000 — how a 14—day quarantine will work for visitors to the uk. a tribute to the victims of coronavirus — an online book of remembrance is set up. our high streets will never be the same again. ahead of a predicted collapse in sales figures, former dragon and retail boss theo paphitis tells the bbc the government must step in to save our shops. retail will never, ever be the same again. if they don't change, what you're going to see is empty stores, very simple. it's like playground economics, it's not complicated. and in sport, promotion and relegation will still happen, in the 3 divisions, below the premier league, if the season, ends prematurely. it's friday 22nd may. our top story. 68 councils in england have told bbc breakfast they can't guarantee primary schools will open to all reception, year1 and year 6 pupils, on june 1st. teachers and parents have expressed concerns about safety in the classroom for larger numbers of children. the government will today publish the scientific evidence behind its decision for a phased return to schools in england. in a few minutes we'll have more on that breakfast survey with jayne mccubbin but first keith doyle has this report. the ninth week of the official clap for our carers was enthusiastically followed as ever. from east london to the scottish glens, people showed their appreciation. including the prime minister, and nhs staff who took over the helipad at st george's hospital in london, socially distancing in perfect formation. there is less enthusiasm from pupils returning to school from 1june. later today, the government will release the scientific advice it received which led it to say schools in england should start reopening for some pupils from that date. go back and sit where you were sitting before. this school in london is practising how social distancing may work, but a survey for bbc breakfast found 68 councils in england say they can't guarantee primary schools will reopen to reception, year1 and year 6 onjune 1. i'm going to get you to say ah... you have to move fast to keep up with developments in the past 24 hours. the government announced a new swab test is being trialled in hampshire, promising results in 20 minutes to let you know if you currently have covid—19, and 10 million antibody tests to tell you if you had the virus will be rolled out from next week. and there's been a u—turn on the surcharge non—eu health workers have to pay to cover nhs treatment they help deliver. the prime minister has asked the home secretary and i to work on we can remove the nhs and care workers from the nhs surcharge as possible and i'm pleased to be able to do that. i've already spoken to the home secretary and we will be saying more and how we do this in the next few days. more details have also been given on the quarantine that will be introduced for people, including britons, entering the country, with spot—checks on where they are staying. 0n the bbc‘s question time, a government minister answered criticism that the quarantine should have been brought in weeks or months ago. one of the reasons quarantine is going to come in now to the end of the pandemic rather than in the middle of it is because when the number of cases in circulation in the population are so much larger than those being brought in by air passengers, there is no point in having a quarantine. they represented less than 0.5% of the caseload. now that our domestic caseload is going down and there is some prospect that air travel will go up, it becomes relatively more important and so measures like quarantine become significant. the government will give more details on this later today including the prospect of a £1,000 fine for people breaking the quarantine rules. keith doyle, bbc news. we asked 150 councils in england what they would do, in a survey. dozens of councils have told bbc breakfast they will not advise schools to extend opening to more students, without first being sure of the safety protections. to get the picture from across of those, 13 say they will categorically be advising schools not to open to a greater number of pupils. just 20 say they're following government advice on a return to school at the start of next month. 4) and at least 11 authorities in england are still considering their position. jayne's at st elizabeth's primary school in bootle for us this morning. jayne, how are preparations going there? you are well aware of the conversations we've been having, teachers and local authorities about safety a nd teachers and local authorities about safety and confidence, about opening up safety and confidence, about opening up more of the classrooms. absolutely. there are so many different opinions, notjust here but around the uk. in scotland, august 11. northern ireland, sometime later that month. wales, they just don't sometime later that month. wales, theyjust don't know but here in england, the government's name has been to head towards thisjune one date. they have been open to children of key workers and vulnerable children right from the word go. the aim of government is to start bringing in these key classes injust ten start bringing in these key classes in just ten days' time. 68 authorities who say we can't guarantee that is going to happen. the vast majority of those authorities have said they are going to leave it down to the wisdom of individual had teachers like this to decide. here at sefton, the local authorities told saint elizabeth another other schools not to go for june the first, by yourselves two more weeks thinking time and preparation time and gopher during the 15th of the earliest. in a statement, the government has said plans for a cautious phased return of some groups from the first of june at the earliest are based on the best scientific and medical advice. the welfare of children and staff have been at the heart of this decision—making from the word go. that's the scientific advice, i will try and hold. it has been clear. the severity of this disease in children is lower than in adults. but when it comes to this crucial issue of whether or not people are —— children are super safe for super spreaders, it says there is no conclusive evidence and that is the crunch. all eyes will be on more scientific advice due to come out from sage later today. let's speak now to our political correspondent, jonathan blake. jonathan, we're due to get a number of important updates later which could influence lockdown measures, what can we expect to hear? direct relevance to some information that will be released today. some key information coming from the government telling us what they're doing now and what they hope to do in nearfuture. doing now and what they hope to do in near future. too doing now and what they hope to do in nearfuture. too slow doing now and what they hope to do in near future. too slow the spread of coronavirus. it comes at a time when most of us have been accused of not acting quickly enough. we will get that all important r number which gives us an idea of how widely the virus is spreading around the uk, how many new people are in acted. how many test positive for coronavirus. it's in portland that it is calculated with a lag of approximately 2— three weeks. whether it is below one as ministers hope, because that shows it is not spreading exponentially around the uk, it will not take into account the relaxation of the gun measures we've seen in england in the last week or so. that to look out for later and that all—importa nt guidance and advice from the sage group to ministers which may help teachers and parents make up their minds about whether they believe it is safe to reopen schools in england from june the first. an online book of remembrance, to commemorate those who have died from coronavirus, has been organised by st paul's cathedral. family members, friends and carers of anyone who has died can submit a name, photograph and a short message to pay tribute to their loved ones. the memorial book, called ‘remember me‘, has received the support of the prince of wales who said the outbreak had "brought tragedy and heartbreak for too many". police have found a body in the search for a 16—year—old girl who went missing almost two weeks ago. louise smith was last seen on ve day in havant in hampshire. search and rescue teams have been scouring country parks and woodland nearby. formal identification has yet to take place, but louise‘s family have been informed. police say they‘re treating the death as suspicious. ahead of the bank holiday weekend, visitors are being warned to follow the lockdown measures, after thousands of people flocked to beaches across england this week to enjoy the hot weather. police in newquay tweeted that tourists had stayed overnight in camper vans, which is against the current legislation. meanwhile in bournemouth, the council urged people to go home if the beach looked too busy. the duke and duchess of cambridge have thanked care workers for their efforts during the pandemic. theyjoined residents and staff at a care home in cardiff via a video call and even tried their hands at being bingo callers. catherine is going to pick out the first ball. so the first number is five and eight, 58. one little duck, number two. eight and seven, 87. six and two, tickety— boo. i‘m not sure if they had a list of all the phrases, legs 11, things like that. maybe they are just natural. enthusiastic, whatever. more than 10,000 people are being recruited for the next phase of human trials for a covid—19 vaccine. the first phase of the trial in oxford saw more than 1,000 healthy adults receive the vaccine, but now older people and children will also take part to see how well their immune systems respond. we‘re joined now by professor andrew pollard, who is leading the trail. there will be so much interest from people in the work you are doing. maybe it‘s helpful to start with what you‘ve done so far. this began in april. what‘s been done from then until now? the first phase of the trial was looking in the safety and immune response in younger adults, those under the age of 85. now we are moving on to look at whether particularly older adults have a similar immune response to the vaccine is younger adults and expand this much larger group we are focusing on those on the frontline, particularly healthcare workers, whether the vaccine protects them against covid—19 disease. whether the vaccine protects them against covid-19 disease. what can you tell us about what you‘ve learned so far in the trials? it's a very strictly regulated process. the volu nteers very strictly regulated process. the volunteers in the trials are all blinded. i can‘t actually share any data. and conduct them rigorously so there is nothing to share at this moment. tells a bit more about this next phase. who do we need to recruit? there are two, those over the age of 55, and those who are over 70 and the age of 55, and those who are over70 and in the age of 55, and those who are over 70 and in that group, we are looking very closely to the immune responses to try and see whether their only differences, particularly in oldest adults, particularly this much larger group, 10,000 individuals, focusing particularly on those in the front line. healthcare workers, paramedics, were more likely to be exposed to coronavirus and see whether they are protected against infection. as you extend to those different age groups, the older age groups but also the younger ones, is that come with a new sense of, probably not the scientific word is risk but presumably where there are extra questions attached to those age groups. i think the older age groups, it‘s more about the immune response than safety. we know a lot about the safety, the backbone of these vaccines, which have been used quite likely with other types of vaccine, including in older adults. there haven‘t been many particular signals but safety is an absolutely critical part of this and we were looking we ——we will be looking at it closely. we spoke to one or two of those who were volunteers and at this stage, when you‘re looking for these different age group volunteers, what other questions you are asking of people. was it that you want come forward? with this first stage of the older adults, we have to select a very healthy individuals because we want to understand the performance of the vaccine in those without underlying health conditions that might compromise immune responses to get a good profile beyond that, we really need to move to a phase where we are taking allcomers to get a really goodidea taking allcomers to get a really good idea about how well the vaccine can perform in the general population. when you say allcomers, when people listening, you say people who are not necessarily the best of health, you might be widening the trial.m this first stage with the older adults it is people in the best of health. there are questions on the trial website which, visible, addresses that. then as we go to the broader group, then there is very limited exclusions for that group to make sure that we are really looking toa make sure that we are really looking to a representative sample of the whole population. can you remind people of how it is in practice that you go about becoming part of the scheme. well, there's a trial website, that is the covid—19 vaccine trial website, which is very easy to find. there are now 18 sites across the country from scotland, down through england and wales, where there will be expert researchers who will enrolled people and they can take part in those sites in the vaccine study. we are particularly, in the larger group, focusing on those on the frontline are healthcare workers, rather than people in the general population, who we hope will be rejected by the social distancing measures taking place at the moment. vasse, inu your caution initially about the progress so caution initially about the progress so far, and are completely understand that, people nevertheless will be asking those questions about when you may be able to give some kind of idea about what you have discovered so far —— i note. you have a timeline attached to this, notwithstanding a things progress?” think the first bits of information about the immune response, we will look at when, as soon as we can, which may be in the next few weeks, but this has to be all agreed with the independent committee that oversees the trial and we will, first of all, discuss that with them. i think the immune response study would be the first thing that we would hope to be able to make public. can you just explain exactly what that is in layman ‘s terms, when you say immune response data that you might be able to share that, what is that exactly? what we‘re talking are the antibodies that induce when you vaccinate someone, that induce when you vaccinate someone, although we don‘t know what level of antibody is required for protection, we think this might be quite important for protection, so thatis quite important for protection, so that is the first bit, does the vaccine make a good antibody response? the second is to look at the numbers and the quality of white load cells that become induced by the vaccine that are then able to fight the virus. as both components of the system, white blood cells and antibodies. professor, thank you for your time this morning. professor andrew pollard heading up that vaccine study in oxford. and it is something so many people will keep a close eye on, especially now it is expanding different age groups as well. that‘s the latest on a vaccine for covid—19, but what about a test to find out if you‘ve had the virus and whether or not that means you have a degree of natural immunity? the government has bought 10 million antibody tests, that will be used by nhs workers and care staff from next week. joining us now is cambridge university virologist, chris smith. whojoins us now who joins us now from norfolk. whojoins us now from norfolk. was who joins us now from norfolk. was a i°y who joins us now from norfolk. was a joy having you the programme. before we start, what are your thoughts on the progression, i‘m sure you are listening to that interview, the progression of the work towards a vaccine? there are more than 100 different projects going the world at the moment across a number of different countries and, reassuringly, they are all taking slightly different approaches. there are more than ten different types of vaccine they are working on. this is really important because when we go into drug manufacture or new vaccine developments, about 90% of the time we will fail. and that‘s just because we are in uncharted waters. so the more irons you have in the fire the better. and i think this is one very promising candidate, but there are many others, reassuringly, so there are many others, reassuringly, so the mortgages we have it rolling the dice better. we maximise our chances of getting a good outcome with this. it is encouraging because we have had reports that science is working more cohesively or cooperating more at the moment. that obviously is encouraging. when it comes to this antibody test, which is what we‘re talking you about this morning, how beneficial is that? one of the things is, just because you‘ve had it, doesn‘t mean that you necessarily are immune. well, boris johnson described the pursuit of antibody test, way back at the beginning of all of this, as game changing. and matt hancock yesterday said testing would be our guiding star and testing is incredibly important. most of the testing done at the moment is telling you have you got this virus right now, but what that doesn‘t tell is, of course, as if you had a last week, we before, that a month before, all last year. so having an antibody testis last year. so having an antibody test is a very important fallback and also backup position, because it tells us a number of things, it tells us a number of things, it tells us a number of things, it tells us have you had this, therefore are you likely to be immune, because if you‘ve got antibodies were much less likely, i can‘t say not likely at all, because we just can‘t say not likely at all, because wejust don‘t can‘t say not likely at all, because we just don‘t know yet, but you must —— much less likely to catch again. the other thing it will enable us to do is when you can operate at scale and when the government sent they have commissioned 10 million of these tests, that means they can go and test representative groups from across the country and will work out where in the country there are large proportions of the population who are not immune and where there are relatively few people who are and aren‘t. what that means is we can potentially inform our models, as we go forward from this, we will know where i‘ll be more likely to see hotspots, as in flareups of the virus again, where can we think we are virus again, where can we think we a re less virus again, where can we think we are less likely to see that, and also we will begin to move to a point where you can test somebody, you can say you are probably immune, and that might guide how you deploy that person if, say, they are a member of frontline staff caring for vulnerable individuals, for example. chris, the science is in place, obviously, and could be in place, but still there is such a dependency on human behaviour as well, because you say if you could roll out 10 million tests, if that is a target, we re million tests, if that is a target, were still relying on people, and i‘m not talking about frontline workers, those who are exposed to this, i‘m talking about everyday people, you are relying on them to ta ke people, you are relying on them to take the test to say they have had it, to contribute to the information to get hotspots, et cetera. and that cannot be guaranteed, can it? these tests we are talking about for antibodies they have been made by the companies roche and abbott. his work at cuscal. these are not the test you would do yourself. these we re test you would do yourself. these were ta ke test you would do yourself. these were take a blood sample or a sample of frozen plasma, the liquid part of blood, out of the freezer, and then tested to see if the antibodies are in there. this can be used as part of mass screening and these tests are done on machines that run very, very fast and processed thousands of samples per day. so actually in some cases we will already have blood samples cases we will already have blood sa m ples collected cases we will already have blood samples collected for other reasons in freezers which can be thought out and tested and this will enable us to do two things, one we can obviously tell the people concerned we have tested them if we need to, and we can go back in time and look ata and we can go back in time and look at a certain date and ask what fraction of the population by this date had antibodies against this thing? and i think probably both of those initiatives will be involved. and that won‘t require quite so much proactive involvement by members of the public because we will be testing are taking blood from people when we need to to look for antibodies, it not people being proactive, i have symptoms and any to go and getjust a. an interesting way of looking at it. as always a i°y way of looking at it. as always a joy listening and talking to you. chris smith from cambridge university. june the 1st could be a huge milestone in the government‘s plan to ease lockdown. the prime minister wants a phased return to schools in england, and has promised a nationwide track and trace coronavirus programme by the start of next month. both plans have faced widespread criticism, with labour accusing the government of leaving a "huge hole" in the uk‘s defences against the illness. let‘s speak now to the shadow health secretary, jonathan ashworth. this thank you very much of your time this morning, mr ashworth. i wonderfirst, in relation to time this morning, mr ashworth. i wonder first, in relation to the schools and during the first date, bbc breakfast has found that 68 councils in england have said that they can‘t guarantee primary schools will reopen to reception, year 1, year 6 pupils on that date. what you make of that? festival, is worth remembering that schools have been open for children of key workers throughout this outbreak. so let‘s not have any of this bashing of teachers and the union representatives we have seen in some of the right—wing press, a appreciate you are not bashing them, but we have seen a lot of the right—wing newspapers having a go at them quite unnecessarily. and, actually, we also know that children out of school is building up huge problems for children, notjust missing out on long—term learning, many schools are sending work by the internet, but that‘s not an adequate replacement for actually being in the classroom. and there are lots of long—term health implications for children being out of school. however, we have to make sure that schools are safe. so it‘s quite right the teaching unions are calling for measures to be put in place by the government. the government should be sitting down with those teaching unions, we should have a taskforce with them to make a schools safe, because we should be putting people at risk for going to work. and a lot of the science on whether children transmit this virus is still inconclusive... 0n this virus is still inconclusive... on that theme, mr ashworth, if i may, on that then we know that later today the government is going to release that scientific advice in relation to schools. so you will see that evidence later. if that explains the decision clearly, will you support the plan to open schools onjune you support the plan to open schools on june one? schools have been open and they remain open... i'm sorry, a appreciate the point you are making. we have to have this discussion on the basis that some schools for some pupils have been open. talking about the majority of pupils, those who are not the children of key workers. you are trying to make it a binary choice. they don‘t think it is a binary choice. individual schools and the governing bodies have to put in place mitigation arrangements to ensure those schools are as safe as possible. there may well be schools who, working with their local trade unions, put in place measures which make the schools are safe, measures around ppe, measures around access to testing and so on, but there will be other schools who feel they have not been able to put in place those measures. and, actually, the key is whether there is proper testing, tracing, and isolation strategy in place across the country and that‘s where we have been very critical of the government, because we are not yet convinced that this strategy for testing and tracing will be operational byjune one, not whether there will be people recruited, but whether it will be operational. the reason we‘re not yet and asking the government to give us more details, is because they handed the contract for delivering this to serco without outsourcing, when we say you need your local experts to be leading this work, because they know their local communities and they are best placed to do this tracing work. so the significance today of the government releasing this scientific advice to schools is what? well, we don‘t know what the contents of that scientific advice will be. i suspect, and this isjust scientific advice will be. i suspect, and this is just a suspicion, that advice will show that the virus is mild amongst young children, we know that, that is advice which you can find on many medical and science papers which are published. and i suspect it will show some studies around expected transmission rates amongst children. but that is not the same as saying schools have made the practical arrangements to mitigate risk in those schools. because we know the government have refused so far to set upa government have refused so far to set up a taskforce with the teaching unions to ensure our schools are as safe as possible. so it‘s not necessarily about the epidemiology around how the virus affects children and is transmitted amongst children and is transmitted amongst children entirely, it‘s also about what practical arrangements are being put in place in schools, around ppe, around sanitation, around ppe, around sanitation, around social distancing, and so on, and testing and access, ongoing access to testing, that is where we need details from schools. can ask about the latest announcement in connection to quarantine, in connection to quarantine, in connection with those flying into the country, coming into the country. the suggestion that should bea14 country. the suggestion that should be a 14 day warranty period and also that there should be powers of spot checks to ensure people are not breaking their quarantines, checks to ensure people are not breaking their quara ntines, they will be fine is attached to that. is that something that you approve of? yes, it is. anything many people have asked why we didn‘t do this sooner. have asked why we didn‘t do this sooner. i have asked why we didn‘t do this sooner. i remember have asked why we didn‘t do this sooner. i remember when in spain, the spanish government banned football fa ns the spanish government banned football fans from going to watch football fans from going to watch football games at stadiums. at that same time we had the liverpool athletico madrid game over here where fans could get on a flight from madrid, fly into liverpool, watch the game in an field, but would not have been able to watch the game had been played in madrid. so there are lots of questions as to why we didn‘t do this sooner. so, yes, ido why we didn‘t do this sooner. so, yes, i do this and they would urge the government to get on with it and give us details about how it will work... is it realistic that police can carry out, they talk about spot checks, is it can do that kind of work in enough detail and that could work? the police bodies will, i'm sure, takea work? the police bodies will, i'm sure, take a view about how to implement these arrangements proportionately. and we have had checks on people. we have issued fines to people for breaking the lockdown rules. actually, in the end, what they are more concerned about is those employers who are forcing people to go back to work and therefore have no option but to break their quarantine or isolation arrangements because they have unscrupulous employers making them go back to work. they would argue that if we have got fines for people breaking lockdown we should have been fines for employers who are refusing to let their workers isolate when we know that‘s in their health interest. jonathan ashworth, thank you for your time this morning. shadow secretary of state for social care. the children matters the man with the weather, view behind you. more back this weekend. 0verall, relative to recent days. and to the eastern areas. that will work its way towards shetland. it does mean a dry, writer spell. showers already into the rest of northern ireland much of scotland. wanted to showers in the north and west of england and wales. a fair amount of dry and sunny weather. it will be a windy day, the northern half of the country, widespread gales. that will make you feel cooler than the temperatures suggest, relative to recent days, temperatures are down and what they have been. blue tonight and into tomorrow, we consider showers continue across the north and west. not too chilly. the weekend, still some rain across the north of scotland, drier and brighter. turning warmer across the south and east. hello this is breakfast with charlie stayt and naga munchetty. 68 councils in england have told breakfast that they can‘t guarantee schools will allow more pupils to return onjune1st, without being sure of safety measures. teachers and parents have called for more details on the scientific advice behind the decision for a phased return to schools in england. this is expected to be published by the government later today. plans to quarantine travellers to stop a second outbreak of covid—19 are expected to be outlined by the home secretary. possible measures include spot checks on fines of £1000. ministers say quarantine measures are more important now. an online book of remembrance, to commemorate those who have died from coronavirus, has been organised by st paul‘s cathedral. family members, friends and carers of anyone who has died can submit a name, photograph and a short message to pay tribute to their loved ones. the memorial book, called ‘remember me‘, has received the support of the prince of wales who said the outbreak had "brought tragedy and heartbreak for too many". police have found a body in the search for a 16—year—old girl who went missing almost two weeks ago. louise smith was last seen on ve day in havant in hampshire. search and rescue teams have been scouring country parks and woodland nearby. formal identification has yet to take place, but louise‘s family have been informed. police say they‘re treating the death as suspicious. ahead of the bank holiday weekend, visitors are being warned to follow the lockdown measures, after thousands of people flocked to beaches across england this week to enjoy the hot weather. police in newquay tweeted that tourists had stayed overnight in camper vans, which is against the current legislation. meanwhile in bournemouth, the council urged people to go home if the beach looked too busy. 68 councils in england have told breakfast that they can‘t guarantee schools will allow more pupils to return onjune1st, without being sure of safety measures. teachers and parents have called for more details on the scientific advice behind the decision for a phased return to schools in england. this is expected to be published by the government later today. let‘s speak now to the northern ireland secretary, brandon lewis. shall i assume you‘re not going to give mea shall i assume you‘re not going to give me a hint as to what will come out on the advice this afternoon? 0bviously sage has published a number of related papers regarding schools but we will be publishing more details later on today. you've seen more details later on today. you've seen the story, previously we‘ve done research which has been in touch with councils in england and 68 of said that they can‘t guarantee primary schools are going to reopen to reception, year1 and year 6 pupils on june the to reception, year1 and year 6 pupils onjune the first. they don‘t feel their safety can be guaranteed. what do you say to that? we've said we wa nt what do you say to that? we've said we want to see children return to school. a week ago today, i said it‘s important that children get that education but we want to make sure the guidelines are being followed, they return to school when it‘s safe. and councils and local authorities had to assess that, that‘s safety issue, but the best interest of the pupils. we do believe schools can do this. we want to see them be given this education. those few weeks at that age can make a big difference. the value of school, obvious, we know that. you have ten days before during the first. the scientific advice comes out today. i assume the government will ink the scientific advice will be good enough to reassure teachers to open for all classrooms, reception, year 1, year 6, for those age groups. is that enough time, ten days? yes, i think it is. we have been saying to schools for a while, prepare to be open, not before the first ofjune prepare to be open, not before the first of june but prepare to be open, not before the first ofjune but hopefully the first. after that. we will publish that advice in the guidelines. hopefully schools and teachers and pa rents hopefully schools and teachers and parents and local authorities will have that confidence they can do so ina good have that confidence they can do so in a good safeway, perhaps with good hygiene and good social distancing where appropriate. so that we can get those children back to school and get the education they need. test, track and trace, will that be in place? there will be constantly monitored and able to react in a timely fashion 20 outbreaks. yes, still going to be rolling out track and trace as an important part of our work. but understand how this has been... you are going to roll it out but it‘s not in place now, is it? so there is no guarantee it‘s going to be out onjune the first and that is what teachers are concerned about. as i said, as the prime minister outlined. including the track and trace, how many people have applied for that. we‘ve now got that level up. we should 25,000 soon. that level up. we should 25,000 soon. let‘s not forget, david navarro from the world health out —— world health organization said one of the best things we can do is follow the guidelines. 0ne of the best things we can do is follow the guidelines. one of the things we can do is consistently and thoroughly wash our hands. things we can do is consistently and thoroughly wash our handsm things we can do is consistently and thoroughly wash our hands. it is all very well telling the uk population to behave but the fact is, people will get infected, even if they have abided by all the measures and guideline the government has put out when it comes to physical distancing. what we‘re talking about now is teachers able to access these tests. the labour ten point land says testing to be effective, it‘s a track and protect system, everyone showing system —— symptoms should be able to access it test within 24 hours. when you are committed to rolling out this test, track and trace system, will this be guaranteed for teachers so they can get on their —— get on with their jobs and educate as you say is so important? i don't want to get ahead of the advice in the scientific advice from sage and the guidance we‘ve got. we are up to nearly 130,000 we‘ve got. we are up to nearly 130 , 000 test. so we‘ve got. we are up to nearly 130,000 test. so that those tests are there and available for people. wa nt to are there and available for people. want to focus on people with symptoms first. rolling out the antibody tests which give us earlier information about the people in the community who may have had this virus, whether they were aware that at the time. but let‘s not forget, one of the most powerful ways to keep that r level down is up for us to follow the guidelines. you talk about the british people behaving themselves. i think they‘ve been phenomenal in their adherence to the guidelines and understanding the role we all have in this and that‘s what‘s been a huge part of why that r level has come down and we can continue to keep it down. the scientific advice isn‘t going to tell us whether or not you are able to provide test and a result within 24 hours. i'm sorry, the scientific advice is around health and safety information. we are looking to upgrade them to 200,000 by the end of the month. the testing has gone up of the month. the testing has gone up consistently and the targets. i‘m confident the health service will continue to do that. it‘s been a phenomenal effort to see where we‘ve gotten too with this massive diagnostic testing capacity. moving from zero at the start of this to where we are now. we want to continue to grow with that. we are now starting to bring it in the next few weeks so we can have a better understanding of how and where this virus is spreading. it‘s about keeping that our level is —— r level as close as possible. let's talk about quarantine. anyone entering the uk from abroad will be told to self isolate for 14 days. they can be subject to spotchecks by authorities. who will be conducting those spot checks, how many spotchecks is expected will be carried out? matt hancock in mid—april in an interview estimated there were about 15,000 people coming a day into the uk. we were in a similar phase of block down in the way the measures are in place now. yes, the home secretary will be outlining the details of the scheme at about five o‘clock today. again, i‘m afraid i‘m not going to get ahead of the announcement later today but it is part of our plans. it's today but it is part of our plans. it‘s something we keep under review to make sure we look after the health of people in the united kingdom. we think this is one of the tools that we should use now, fall tools that we should use now, fall to the level it has. that‘s what the scientific advice is, but this will be something we can keep under review in the weeks ahead. tell me these details are going to be answered. —— tell me these details if they are going to be answered. if someone if they are going to be answered. if someone needs to isolate for 14 days and can‘t do it safely at home, will you provide somewhere for them to go? a quarantine centre? all the details will be outlined later today. i accept you can't answer that. i will also ask if this will be answered this afternoon. it effectively adds two weeks more doesn‘t it to any holiday that‘s taken, to somebody takes a two—week holiday, they are entitled to holiday, they are entitled to holiday pay, they come back, have to quarantine for two weeks and have to go back to work, will the announcement support the workplaces business are going to offer to people saying if you have to weeks off, it‘s four weeks and you can‘t be guaranteed holiday pay from your employer? that is something we will deal with later on today but the reality is, we are saying to people, if you go lord, you need to look at the fact that you quarantine when you get back. but this will be something we review every three weeks. i can‘t say yet how long this quarantine will last, it will also be down to the scientific advice from every stage. in terms of keeping that level down. just being very straight with you, we‘re going to be assessing that when we go forward to make sure we are making decisions based on the best possible impact we have in keeping the r down and protecting the health of people across the united kingdom. the r level will be released later this afternoon for the uk. is it going to think -- afternoon for the uk. is it going to think —— isn‘t going to be a figure that lags, for example, two weeks ago. it's the most up-to-date r figure we have. we are seeing some parts of the united kingdom, scotland, wales and northern ireland, very late expect variations in the r level. but it will be the most up—to—date ego. in the r level. but it will be the most up-to-date ego. it's between 0.7 and one for the uk as a hole. if it remains below one is natural and sensible to assume that lockdown measures will be eased, since it has been sustained at one or below? we are tending to get a bit ahead of ourselves. we will be basing decisions in the r on scientific and medical advice over the next few days to make a decision ahead of the first ofjune so we will look at what we do next but our desire and i hope is to gradually ease lockdowns, give people more opportunity to get back to a normal life but as the prime minister said, in a cautious way that is safe the pupils help. brandon lewis, northern ireland secretary, thank you for your time. let‘s go to ben. everyone knows retail sales have plummeted. we have these statistics this morning that‘ll give us a clear picture. you‘re absolutely right. good morning you both. last time we spoke we were looking at the figures for march and remember stores closed just a week or so at the end of month so it doesn‘t give us a full picture. now we have had the figures for april and they really do show the state of our high streets. remember, this really does tell that story, online doing well because we can do that from home, many stores on the high street, if not selling stuff like food or other stem cells, they were forced to close. the numbers to make for some pretty grim reading. let me explain to you what we know already. we know sales are down by 18.1%. that is for april. they were already down by about 5% in march. this is a further fall for the full month of april. clothing sales, perhaps unsurprisingly, seeing the biggest fall. they were down by more than 50%. remember, again, that‘s on top of a 34% fall on the month before. we last saw clothing sales at this level in 1988, in the depths of the recession. it‘s worth bearing in mind, and they touched on it there, that we are spending more online. 31 796 that we are spending more online. 31 7% of all spending we did last month was done online and that included a big rise in the food we bought online by using may online supermarkets to get it delivered to our doors. so really tough for retailers out there. rob lee not coming asa retailers out there. rob lee not coming as a huge surprise that sales have fallen so sharply. but the big question is does it bounce back? what happens when stores reopen? will will still feel like we want to spend money? emma has been speaking to the open foetus. many will know him from the tv show dragon stand. this is the way we have been shopping as our chase forever. retail will never ever be the same again. every year we will see a higher uptake on online sales in comparison to retail sales. what this lockdown has done, it's probably accelerated, in my personal view, the whole transition by at least five years. mrs p, every single day is on her keyboard and ordering online. she never did that before. she likes it. there is no way she will change your habits now. that idea of everyone changing the habits and maybe they won‘t go back to their old ways. also love about figures like this and maybe i‘m a bit of a nerd when it comes to numbers, the office of national statistics, tells us of what we have been doing and how we have been doing it. last time there was a big spike in food sales and it was the panic buying we did in the early days of the lockdown. those have eased off and food sales have fallen a little bit, but the one thing that is holding up, once again, is lose sales. off—licence sales rising once again, even though they have come from a pretty high base from some of that stockpiling they have continued to rise. the idea that we cannot go out for a nice dinner or a drink or down the pub, so we have been buying from the off—licence to get us through while we are at home. boo services in particular, not clothing or homework, unless it is things like tracksuit pads and leisurewear, thatis like tracksuit pads and leisurewear, that is flying off the shelves online. very good. thank you for taking us through the statistics. thank you very much. it is 12 minutes to eight. losing a loved one is difficult enough during normal circumstances, but the pandemic has made the grieving process for many families even more challenging. an online book of remembrance, to commemorate those who have died from coronavirus, has been organised by st paul‘s cathedral where people of all faiths can pay virtual tributes. 0ur correspondent helena wilkinson reports. mary caro, a doctor, gardener, someone mary caro, a doctor, gardener, someone who brought people together with passion, two months ago she caught the virus and died. she was 81. something is a national memorial is important. i do think when you think of wall grave, the impact, is astonishing. and they are places of beauty. and they carry their m essa g es beauty. and they carry their messages through generations. and i hope murrumba me can do that, it helps us see beyond the very murky horizon that we are all sort of gazing to at the moment and, hopefully, there can be hoped around the corner. they don‘t think we are there yet. from today, thousands of others like 0liver will be able to submit the name, a photograph of their loved one, and a short message about them to this website. it will be an online space, somewhere for families, friends, and carers to share the lives of those who have died. there are tens of thousands of people who have died, and a greater number of people who are morning. and we must all remember that, in most cases, the funerals were very restricted. many people didn‘t get a chance to say goodbye. so this is meeting a real void, a real unmet need. and an opportunity for these families to memorialise their loved ones ina families to memorialise their loved ones in a very special and historic way. the book will be open to entries as long as it‘s needed and open to people of every faith and of none. it has the support of the prince of wales. this virtual book of remembrance is here to help us remember, notjust of remembrance is here to help us remember, not just to of remembrance is here to help us remember, notjust to recall our loss and sorrow, but also to be thankfulfor loss and sorrow, but also to be thankful for everything good that those we have loved brought into our lives and all that they have given to others. for centuries, st paul's cathedral has been a place where people have come to remember the impact of national tragedies. they hope eventually they will be able to turn the online remembrance book into a physical memorial here, so one day people can come together to remember those who have died. and this is where they plan to put a permanent memorial. for so many families, a proper funeral for their loved ones has not been possible. for so many families that have been unable to grieve properly. this national online memorial will, perhaps, be of some comfort to them. a way to remember so many people who died before their time. helena wilkinson, bbc news. the dean of st paul‘s cathedral, the very reverend david ison joins us now from central london. dean, thank you very much for your time this morning. why was it important, do you think, to set up this project? when you look around at the number of people who are grieving, like you‘ve been talking about in your reports, they are doing it very much on their own because we are all isolated. and we we re because we are all isolated. and we were looking at the situation thinking we can‘t welcome people in, we can‘t bring people together, we can‘t support people in the way we would like to do, what can we do to do something about that? so that is where the idea of an online memorial that —— came up, one that is rooted ina that —— came up, one that is rooted in a particular place, because we are not only emotional, spiritual beings, we are physical ones. so support is holding the so that people right across the uk can come together and remember those who they have lost. you will be very well aware that one of the changes because of what‘s happening at the moment, because of covid—19, is that for those people who have died, theirfamilies for those people who have died, their families and their loved ones are robbed of the normal passage to give them some of those rituals to do with when someone died, to have that normal process at a funeral, the getting together, the hugs that you might otherwise have. and that is unique about the situation we are in now. it is. and what the memorial book does is to allow people who have not been able to be present at the funerals of low —— those they love and care for to participate in some way in their remembrance. and we look forward to the day when we can bring people together to have those memorial services and remember, but in the meantime this means we can, right across the uk, share in one another‘s grief and sorrow. dean, i imagine, and you alluded to that a moment ago, it must be frustrating for all of those who are organising, involved in religious ceremonies or in any kind of faith, that you two are robbed of what you would naturally do, which is open your doors, to invite people m, is open your doors, to invite people in, to share. and that to can‘t happen under the present circumstances. it breaks your heart to see the suffering that people are going through and that‘s why we wa nted going through and that‘s why we wanted to see what we could do in response to that. and also to have something which is going to be rooted in a place so that people know that this is notjust rooted in a place so that people know that this is not just something for the moment that will then disappear, but we will curated, we will look after it, and we will seek to make permanent the memorialisation of those who we‘ve lost. in a practical sense and for those people interested, how do they go about putting something on what isa go about putting something on what is a virtual place, isn‘t it? go about putting something on what is a virtual place, isn't it? it is. if you go online to remember me 2020 .uk, then you have a process where you can sign up and put the name of a person, your family, you can sign up and put the name of a person, yourfamily, yourfriend, someone you ca red a person, yourfamily, yourfriend, someone you cared for, do it in consultation with others, because you can only put one person up, and then put them onto the book and they will be remembered. more than that, we will remember them. it is important to know it is we, because every person matters and every loss isa every person matters and every loss is a loss to all of us. dean, just, if they may, on a personal note, and we often ask people this when we talk to people in the medical profession, how have you been, on a personal note, what has it been like for you? it's been very hard. part of what we do is we worship and pray together. you may have heard the chorister singing just now, they are brought together online to reduce and add them. we cannot be together way we long to be, to hold people, to hug people, to pray with people. and that has been very hard. i think all of us, right across the uk, have been sharing in this experience that we have all lost something. and having ways that we can come together to acknowledge that as support each other is so important at this time. dean, thank you for your time. that is the dean of st paul‘s cathedral, very reverend david ison. the fact is whether you are religious or not, it is about just being supported or at least trying to show some support for everyone. because everyone, as he said, it is hard, when it is this different it is hard. you need the support of people. absolutely. so true. matt has the weather for us right now. good morning. good morning. 7:56am. 7:57am. right now. time check with the weather. double the pay. good morning. we have had overnight ran across the country. still raining at the moment. there is guys on the way. sunshine already out once again in cumbria. there will be some sunshine over the next few days, but the weather is going to be more turbulence. strong is developing, they will continue for a few days yet medical across the northern half of the country. mooring to come especially in western scotland and relative to recent days it will turn a little bit cooler. still warm enough. we have the sunshine out and pretty warm this morning, even with the cloud and rain. temperature around 18- 90 cloud and rain. temperature around 18— 90 degrees across east anglia and the south—east, close to record—breaking for a may morning. --18-19. the record—breaking for a may morning. —— 18—19. the rain we need at the moment. the more persistent overnight ran lingering across scotland, toolpusher was charlotte, bright and sunny is developing for most. joe was in northern ireland become more widespread through the morning. spreading into the afternoon across scotland where they will persist around the western highlands. shower was west of the north of england and wales, much of england and wales will stay dry through the rest of the day. it will bea through the rest of the day. it will be a breezy day that we have been used to over the last few. from north wales north was we will seagulls in place. winds 50—60 mph in western scotland and northern ireland. that‘ll make you feel cooler than temperatures would suggest. these are around the levels we should be at the time of year, warm enough in the sunshine, 22 celsius in the south—east, down on the 28 of yesterday. into the evening and overnight, the rain persist in the western highlands of scotland. a few showers does around elsewhere because the breezes strong enough to dry them in off the atlantic. temperatures won‘t drop away much, but there will be a colonnade on the one just gone, spots down into the single figures as we start saturday morning. as we go into the weekend, the big area of low pressure, unseasonable, it has been bringing the strong winds to start today will only slowly move eastwards. high pressure trying to build back in from the south. we will split the weather bit north and south. for england and wales on saturday sunshine and showers, somchai was heavy and thundering, particularly the west. some will stay dry. shower was much more frequent. the rain will persist around the western highlands. the rainfall totals totting up. temperatures dropping again a little bit although still close to levels they should be for the time of year. as we go through saturday night into sunday, more rain across western scotland, when you cross the north, winds gradually using a little bit. dry further south. in the sunshine feeling warm. it will feel warmer in the south as we go into bank holiday monday. that is how your weather is looking. the headlines are next. good morning, welcome to breakfast with charlie stayt and naga munchetty. 0ur headlines today: ten days before more pupils in england are due to go back to the classroom, 68 councils tell breakfast they cant guarantee all schools will be open. more than 10,000 people are being recruited for the next phase of human trials for a coronavirus vaccine. spot checks and fines of up to £1,000 — how a 14 day quarantine will work for visitors to the uk. a tribute to the victims of coronavirus — an online book of remembrance is set up. more time to pay back your mortgage — banks and building societies are told to extend payment holidays for three more months, if customers are struggling financially. 1.8 million people have already asked for help. it‘s friday, 22nd may. our top story. it‘s just ten days before all primary schools in england are due to open, under plans for a phased return which will see more children take part in face—to—face lessons. but how many schools will follow the government guidelines? to get the picture from across the country, we surveyed 150 councils in england and about two thirds responded. 68 councils in england said that they can‘t guarantee primary schools will open to all reception, year one and year six pupils, onjune1st. of those, 13 say they will categorically be advising schools not to open to a greater number of pupils. just 20 say they‘re following government advice for a return to school at the start of next month. and at least 11 authorities in england are still considering their position. in the last few minutes, northern ireland secretary brandon lewis responded to the findings of our survey and urged councils, schools and parents to do everything they can to allow more children to return to the classroom. we have said all along we want to see children return to school. as i said to you i think on this programme a week ago today, it is important if they children get that education. we have also been very clear we want people to ensure the guidelines are there to be followed and they return to school when it is safe, no earlier than june and they return to school when it is safe, no earlier thanjune one, and councils, local authorities and schools have got to assess that safety issue from the health point of view for the best interest of the pupils. we do believe schools can do this. we want to see them give those children the education they need at such an important time in their life. those few weeks can make a very big difference. in a few minutes, jayne mccubbin will have more on what councils in england told us as part of that survey. but first let‘s speak to our political correspondent, jonathan blake. you heard brandon lewis they are, his reaction to our research. we also spoke to him about plans to introduce quarantine rules for travellers from overseas. they will be announced later on? yes, just as there has been resistance from schools, teaching unions and parents to reopening schools in england as early as the 1st ofjune, there has been strong resistance from the travel industry and airlines in particular to this plan from the government to ask people, compel people, to quarantine for 14 days after arriving in the uk. nevertheless this is something ministers are going to go ahead with. it will come into force from next month. we don‘t know the exact date. but the idea is anyone arriving in the uk from overseas, and that includes british people who are returning to the uk, will have their contact details taken and be told to self—isolate for two weeks. then they could see spot checks at private residences from health officials, to see whether people are complying or not. anyone breaking the rules could face a fine of up to £1000. despite the warnings from the travel industry that this could have a devastating impact on their business, this is clearly something that the government believes now that the government believes now that the government believes now that the infection rate has calmed down, is one tool at their disposal to keep that number as low as it has been. jonathan, thank you. jonathan blake. more than 10,000 people are being recruited for the next phase of human trials for a covid—19 vaccine. researchers from oxford university have already completed more than a thousand immunisations of adults, and the results are being followed up. the second stage of the trial involves expanding the age range of those involved to include a small number of older adults and children. well, with this first stage of the older adults, we have to select a very healthy individuals because we really wa nt very healthy individuals because we really want to understand the performance of the vaccine in those without underlying health conditions that might compromise responses, to get a really good profile. beyond that we need to move to a phase where we are taking all comers to get a really good idea of how well the vaccine can perform in the general population. an online book of remembrance, to commemorate those who have died from coronavirus, has been organised by st paul‘s cathedral. family members, friends and carers of anyone who has died can submit a name, photograph and a short message to pay tribute to their loved ones. the memorial book, called remember me, has received the support of the prince of wales, who said the outbreak had "brought tragedy and heartbreakfor too many". police have found a body in the search for a 16—year—old girl who went missing almost two weeks ago. louise smith was last seen on ve day in havant in hampshire. search and rescue teams have been scouring country parks and woodland nearby. formal identification has yet to take place, but louise‘s family have been informed. police say they‘re treating the death as suspicious. ahead of the bank holiday weekend, visitors are being warned to follow the lockdown measures, after thousands of people flocked to beaches across england this week to enjoy the hot weather. police in newquay tweeted that tourists had stayed overnight in camper vans, which is against the current legislation. meanwhile in bournemouth, the council urged people to go home if the beach looked too busy. the duke and duchess of cambridge have thanked care workers for their efforts during the pandemic. theyjoined residents and staff at a care home in cardiff via a video call, and even tried their hands at being bingo callers. catherine is going to pick out the first ball. so the first number is five and eight, 58. one little duck, number two. eight and seven, 87. six and two, tickety— boo. can you imagine how chuffed those residents must have been to have those two as bingo callers? and doing it so well. i got legs 11. do you know what it is? no. on the gate. do you know how kelly‘s i is? i don‘t know. one. gate. do you know how kelly‘s i is? i don't know. one. now you know. this programme has been asking councils how they feel about schools reopening. so, as we‘ve been hearing this morning, 68 councils in england say they can‘t guarantee primary schools will open to all reception, year one and year six pupils, onjune1st. all of this boils down to practicalities. let‘s get more on those figures from jayne mccubbin, who is at st elizabeth‘s primary school in bootle for us this morning. at the end of the day, the 1st of june of these schools will be in the position where they have to make those decisions, open or closed? that‘s it. and there‘s so much confusion around this. i guess the key question is this. are children super save, or are they super spreaders? when is the right time to get them back into the classroom? in scotla nd get them back into the classroom? in scotland they are aiming for the 11th of august. in northern ireland, sometime later that month. in wales they don‘t know yet. but here in england all eyes are on that date of the 1st ofjune, england all eyes are on that date of the 1st of june, that england all eyes are on that date of the 1st ofjune, that is the stated government ambition to try and head for if it is safe. this local authority that saint elizabeth is m, authority that saint elizabeth is in, has said, forget the 1st of june, let‘s buy a bit more time and go for the 15th ofjune at the earliest. although schools are trying to plough ahead and make it happen in ten days‘ time for those key age groups. we went to the school and another school, ploughing on towards the 1st ofjune, in hope, to see her parents and staff feel. walk with us into wootton primary school along the one—way system and see the quandary facing parents whose children may or may not be going back to school in ten days‘ time, like harrison‘s mum. if i was to send him back, there is no way he would stay away from his friends, he‘s missed them way too much, and as much as teachers want to social distance, social distance, social distance, it‘s not going to happen with 5—year—olds, they don‘t understand. and ruby‘s mum. some days i'm thinking, "oh, my goodness, am i doing the right thing, should they be going back?" and then other days, i'm like, "do you know what? "they have to go back at some point, whether it's now or in september." this is tricky. this school is preparing to allow reception, year one and year six back in on june 1st. head mr nairn says it‘s the right thing. because the remote learning is as good as it can be, but it doesn‘t begin to compare to having a high—quality teacher stood in front of you. but it hasn‘t been easy thing. probably one of the most difficult things i‘ve wrestled with — it‘s that balance between listening to the science and listening to the fact that, you know, we need to keep our children safe, and we still don‘t know enough about the transmission rates among young children. this is the latest scientific advice. it conclusively says that the severity of the disease is lower in children than in adults, but when it comes to the susceptibility to the virus and the ability to pass it on, the evidence is, well, it‘s sketchy. just part of the reason this school in sefton isn‘t planning on doing anything different on june 1st. instead, they‘re bagging two weeks more preparation time and aiming forjune15. basically our local authority have stepped in and said they agree june first is too soon. in a letter, mr daniels told parents they would do all they could to make it safe as possible but warned school was not the safest place for kids to be. you wrote to parents to say the safest place for them is still not here but at home. there's different guidance, and different reports coming out daily. i can't tell parents either way. that's a parental decision for them to take because they've all got different circumstances in their home lives. and what‘s the feedback you‘re getting from parents? the feedback we've had, as for the potential roughly 240 children, we sent a survey out and we had less than 20 parents who said they would be willing to send their children in. amongst those who said no, alexis and mum linda. it‘s a little bit further away so i can make more of an informed decision about sending her back, but it‘s so close to the end of term, what‘s the point?, reallyjoseph and his parents also said no. no, not yet. it‘s still too early for them to be going back to school, i think, personally. they‘ve been given the option to send evie, deacon and joseph, jr back into school and nursery in the coming weeks, but they are just not convinced. when they're sitting next to each other in the house of commons, then we'll put our kids back in nursery. until then, don't bother asking us. you need to be testing as many as you can. if you know that you've got it, you're less likely to go out. what you are saying is, if the test and tracking was way ahead of where we are at right now, that‘s the thing that would give you confidence? it is, yeah. that absolutely is the aim of government, but for lleyton, who two weeks ago told us he couldn‘t wait to go back... i don‘t want to go back now. you don‘t want to go back now? it doesn‘t, like, feel go safe to go back, yeah. what will you need to see and hear to make you have that confidence? more positive news. positivity about a june 1 back—to—school date for year 6 at st elizabeth‘s in in short supply. more scientific guidance is expected later today. we'd like nothing more now than to have a school full of children but for now, show us the science and we can work towards it. well, the science is going to be updated today with more guidance from sage, the government‘s advisory group on emergencies. the science so far, this is it in my hands, talks about the children and whether or not they are super save or super spreaders. it says with only 2% of covid—19 hospital admissions involving children, they are relatively safe when it comes to this illness. however, it‘s the super spreader issue that has caused a lot of confusion. that is where the evidence just isn‘t clear. it‘s interesting to note that the independent sage group is meeting later today. this breakaway group. and they are advising, like sefton council, that the 1st ofjune might be too early, let‘s go for the 15th ofjune. the government itself will look at this later on today. in a statement they have told us that plans for a cautious phased return of some groups from the 1st ofjune, at the very earliest, are based on the best scientific and medical advice. the welfare of children and staff has been at the very heart of this decision making. saint elizabeth is gearing up for another school day with just key workers and vulnerable children. who knows how many will turn up on the 15th of june, if the 15th ofjune is the day schools in this area try to push open and get more children back into some kind of new normal? back to you. you very much. let‘s speak now to councillor tim swift, leader of calderdale council, and councillor sir stephen houghton, who is the leader of barnsley council. good morning to you both. the reason we have people from two different councils is because you do have contrasting views. tim, would you briefly layout your view? yeah. we felt that the 1st ofjune is too soon, not just felt that the 1st ofjune is too soon, notjust in terms of the practical steps our school needs to ta ke to practical steps our school needs to take to be ready, but our concerns are about the readiness in terms of meeting the government‘s five tests. it seems better to wait until we have the final advice today. we thought it is best to give schools clear advice and we felt the 1st of june was too soon. we are particularly concerned by comments on the clip that you have just shown about the robustness of that testing and tracing, which we think is critical to make sure, if schools do open, cases can be tracked quickly. councillor houghton, your view? from the barnsley perspective we are treating the 1st ofjune date as a starting point. working with our schools to see when they can start to bring in cautiously and slowly more children over time. so it is not a big bang effect, where all these children would be back in school on that date. it is about the slow and cautious approach. in a practical sense then, mr houghton, what does that mean? what do these schools need to have in place in order that the numbers can go up? first of all it is about each school doing a risk assessment, about the needs of the children, both the staff, looking at the building, what can be done safely and what can't come in producing from that an action plan to make sure children and staff are as they can be. it's about having a public health officer designated to the schools of the advice they need and the practice they need to put into place is continuous throughout the journey. again, this is always about practicalities. at this stage, with ten days to go, which only five are working days, are you saying that schools don‘t have those in place? working days, are you saying that schools don't have those in place?” am saying that some schools may well have those precautions in place, others, it is clearly going to take longer because the nature of the school, the building itself, may not lend it easily do the changes that are needed, so clearly that is going to take much more time. tim swift, you are not doing as well. you did say that practicalities are important. at the moment it is not practical. but we spoke to brandon lewis earlier today and he said this afternoon the advice, the scientific advice, is coming out. what do you need to hear from that in terms of them are saying, right, tomorrow, or even at this evening, schools are in a position to open the 1st ofjune? well, first of all, we are already asking our schools to look at the practicalities. i think based on the advice, we won‘t be asking our schools to open the 1st ofjune. but if the scientific and answers the concerns we have about the five tests, we will work with them towards the best date. we have a huge mix of schools in calderdale, some in relatively modern buildings, quite easy to change around. but the more victorian buildings makes it quite challenging to do the social distancing. it will take schools in a different amount of time as well. steven houghton, raymond has got in touch with us, he is a parent. no schools until track and trace is up and running. isn‘t that reasonable? i think track and trace is very helpful in this process and clearly we want the government to be successful in the 1st ofjune to have that in place. if it's not fully up and running we have taken the decision in barnsley to augment whatever the government does so we can maximise the benefit of that. but obviously it is notjust can maximise the benefit of that. but obviously it is not just about the track and trace. that is one tool in the box. we need to make sure all those other measures are in place to give people confidence that it is safe to send children back. mr houghton, just on that theme, another message this morning from catherine, whose kids will not, emphatically, be going back on the 1st ofjune. her four children all go to different schools. if you have got a parent are not convinced, you look at the school and you say the measures are in place, you are content measures are in place, you are co nte nt for measures are in place, you are content for certain numbers to be there, if parents still say, i am not co nte nt there, if parents still say, i am not content to do that, do they have the right do not send their children to school? and how long can that go on for? i mean, it‘s very hard to judge these things. it is very hard tojudge but they judge these things. it is very hard to judge but they do have the judge these things. it is very hard tojudge but they do have the right not to send their children to school. again what we are doing in barnsley is giving children —— parents a choice. putting all the measures in that we feel will make them safe to send their children back. if they choose not to send them, home learning can continue and be children don't race out altogether. clearly this is going to go altogether. clearly this is going to go on for a long time. the virus will not disappear in the next couple of months. whenever we talk about bringing schools back, we are going to be having this kind of thing. briefly, tim swift, just from the view of councils, you don‘t have control or authority over the schools, a lot of the authorities will make decisions. is there any conflict there? you're right, different academies are taking a different academies are taking a different view. some of them have looked at what we are saying and said like us they feel the 1st of june is too soon, some of the other academy chains will be looking to extend for some children on the 1st ofjune. that is the nature of the school system now. like i said, as you touch them with your question, it is about the number of children that parents will be willing to take up that parents will be willing to take up the places. schools are saying around half of their parents were not comfortable about going back on that date. ok. it has been really interesting talking to you both. councillor tim swift and cancer stephen houghton, thank you for your time. ben, we are talking about people who might be struggling with their mortgages. there has been quite a lot of talk about whether mortgage companies will give them any flexibility, any payment holidays? yeah, you're right. frankly, they won‘t have much choice. the treasury has updated guidance to banks and building societies and say they have to give you more time to pay that mortgage back if you are having difficulty financially. now it might be because maybe you are working fewer hours, maybe you are working fewer hours, maybe you are furloughed or you are not working at all. therefore you might want to get a mortgage payment holiday, a bit of breathing space where you don‘t have to make those repayments. the government are now saying that will be extended for another three months. it was due to end at the end ofjune. now a bit more time. crucially,1.8 million mortgage holders have taken up that offer, so it shows the extent to which people are feeling the pinch. the whole idea of this, to give you a bit more time and space to pay it back. the advice is really clear. you‘ve got to make sure that you speak to the bank or the building society and arrange this with them, don‘tjust stop paying, make sure you will arrange it with them and they agree so that it won‘t affect your credit rating. when you do come to repay, be very careful. negotiate with them at what level you want to be paid because you don‘t want to see a big be paid because you don‘t want to seea bigjump be paid because you don‘t want to see a big jump in your payments when you start playing again, to make up for the time you have had with your mortgage holiday. some good news, breathing space, but make sure you talk to your bank or building society. how surprising was in seeing the 50 point drop in retail sales that came out an hour ago? yes, that 50% figure was specifically for clothing. the overall figure down by 18%. that is on top of the fall we saw in march. we get these figures every month and it seems to be the longer the lockdown goes on, the longer stores are closed, the worse these retail figures can be. so yeah, clothing sales down more than 50% because those stories have simply been closed. unless you have got an online presence or website, you will not be able to shift some of that stock. m&s telling us that it has put a lot of it stuck for this year into storage and it is hoping it will sell it in spring of next year. it is all seasonal. if we are not buying it now, the chances are when the stories reopen we are not going to buy at them either. a couple of other things from that which tell us about our habits. i the money we have spent over the last month, 30% of it, a record figure, was now online. more of us choosing to do online. more of us choosing to do online shopping, particularly when it comes to food delivered to the house. clothing really struggling. but booze sales on the up, to get us through the lockdown perhaps. we can‘t go to the pub, we can get a bottle of wine and have a nice meal at home. alcohol sales one of the few bright spots in a dismal set of results for retail. ben thank you. after two months of empty casino tables and silent slot machines, the bright lights of las vegas are starting to flicker back on. 42—million people travel to the city every year and with many jobs reliant on tourism, businesses are doing all they can to encourage visitors to return, as sophie long reports. the party that once raged here is over. the big question is — will revellers ever roll back into town? tourism is to las vegas what the automotive industry is to detroit, what music is to nashville, government to washington, dc. without it, without the people, there is no party. and the economic impact of this eerily quiet and empty strip is rippling across the city. at the peak of the great recession our unemployment rate in southern nevada was about 13—14%, very high by historical standards. as you and i sit here today that unemployment rate is roughly 30%. so even if we bring two—thirds of those employees back online we are to have an unemployment rate that is substantially higher than we‘ve seen historically. the global pandemic is completely cleared the entertainment capital of the world. 160,000 hotel rooms, almost all of them empty.” the world. 160,000 hotel rooms, almost all of them empty. i love what i do. when you love what you do and what you are, it makes you happy. gladys is a housekeeper at the palagio. i hope i go back. will you feel safe going back to work? that is what we are working, like, the union have been asking to the companies today are guideline —— to doa companies today are guideline —— to do a guideline so they can protect us do a guideline so they can protect us when we go back to work. people here are conflicted. they are desperate to return to work but scared to do so. not everyone will get the chance. this casino would normally be full of more than 4,000 people and the sounds of the 800 slot machines spitting out coins, the clickety clack of roulette wheels spinning. but now all you can hear is the air—conditioning system. and the problem is that even when casinos are allowed to reopen their doors, until tourists feel safe enough to board planes in order to walk through them, they will remain varying degrees of empty. nobody‘s ever been through this before. so we have all these analysts and stuff saying it will take 1.5 to two years to recover, but this this has never happened. but, quite honestly, 30% of those people could lose their jobs permanently. las vegas is starting to reopen. there are already scenes reminiscent of the lives we used to live and further preparations are under way. well, you can see the lights are on. we are testing. we're making sure that everything is operable, or operating. we're testing new equipment. we will be fogging the area every day, almost like ghostbusters—style, with disinfectant. and our staff, we're preparing and training our staff to wear ppe, to make sure they are all safe. it‘s tight, but we‘re still in business. elvis impersonators are squeezing back into their jumpsuits and are ready to follow the new rules — aware that only falls rush in. i‘m normally very, you know, you walk in, shake, and "where are you from?" sometimes the bride, "elvis, i love you. could i give you a hug?" so to have that stand off now that we have to do with people, it‘s going to be — that‘s sad, but you have to still do it with a smile and make them feel... and congratulations to them. hats off for saying "hey, you‘re open, we‘re on our way. we‘re you know, so these first couples, what a great thing. they‘re like we want to get married, we love each other. so we‘re here to rock their world and celebrate, and lift them up and say good for you. # viva, las vegas!#. irene and douglas, the first couple to offer living proof that the coronavirus can‘t conquer love. sophie long, bbc news, las vegas. love a bit of elvis. i thought he was going to have a thank you very much at the end. 0r was going to have a thank you very much at the end. or is that tommy cooper? have i got that wrong? wasn‘t it tommy cooper? you see matt, just don‘t do that again, matt! they both did it, i am being told in my ear, but also earlier, we we re told in my ear, but also earlier, we were talking about who would make a good elvis impersonator. i have got some aviator glasses, which i am more than happy to let someone, who is already well equipped to be a really good elvis impersonator. not me, but somebody. there is a career out there for you, charlie, when you are fed up with presenting. it could happen sooner than you think, matt! tell us about the weather. i think he‘s reached the end of his tether. it's tether. it‘s been a long morning. a lovely rainbow appearing on the north—east coast of scotland. the overnight rain clearing. some showers around. more rain in scotland this weekend. windy weather to go with it. much more wind than you should have at this time of the year. temperatures dropping a little bit. warm enough when the sun is out and the sun will be. the overnight rain that has swept be. the overnight rain that has swe pt a cross be. the overnight rain that has swept across most parts of the country, notice how disappointingly narrow that ring binders across the south, many gardens still parched. the more persistent rain in the north, where it lingers across the far north of scotland. bright and sunny skies for many for a time. showers in northern ireland developing widely, then into scotland, persisting around the highlands. some minor flooding issues. away from that of sunshine and showers for the rest of scotland, northern ireland, north and west england and wales this afternoon. many places to stay dry, particularly for the south and east you go. winds 50 to 60 mph in scotla nd you go. winds 50 to 60 mph in scotland and northern ireland, bringing in the south and east you go. winds 50 to 60 mph in scotland and northern ireland, bringing in rough micro seas. making it feel cooler. as we go into this evening and overnight showers continue across many western areas. persistent rain across the western highlands. and whilst temperatures down on last night, where temperatures hovered around 17 to 18 at the lowest for some, eight or 9 degrees is still warm enough to take us degrees is still warm enough to take us into saturday morning. saturday, the weekend, the very of low pressure to start with, that is bringing the strong winds and rain might today. i press are trying to build into the south. breezy throughout the weekend. winds touching 50 to 60 mph on saturday across parts of scotland, northern ireland and the north of bingen. rain persisting in the west of scotland. sunshine and showers for many through the day on saturday. some heavy and thundery. hit and miss across parts of england and wales. many gardens may miss out yet again. temperatures down, 12 to 19 degrees. saturday night into thundery rain comes and goes in the northern half of the country, turning lighter advise fattier in western scotland as we go through sunday, the brightest, driest weather in the south. temperatures pick up again, up to 22 degrees in the south—east corner. of course it isa bank the south—east corner. of course it is a bank holiday weekend, wet and windy for some to start with, but as high pressure builds into monday, it is going to be dry, reasonably sunny for the vast majority, rain in the north—west later, but temperatures will be on the climb again. could reach 25, 20 six celsius in the south—east. enjoy your weekend. reach 25, 20 six celsius in the south—east. enjoy yourweekend. bye for now. thank you so much. will we see you tomorrow? i don't know who it is tomorrow. ok. see you soon anyway. hello, this is breakfast with charlie stayt and naga munchetty. as well as the latest updates on the pandemic, we‘ve also tried to bring you stories of those who have recovered from the virus, and our next guest returned home from hospitaljust yesterday. murad ghrew is an icu consultant at salford royal, and after seeing patients with covid—19, he contracted the virus himself and spent five weeks being treated in intensive care by his colleagues. applause what you are seeing there, his family and friends and neighbours lining the streets for his homecoming. murad, his wife abeer and daughter muzaina, join us now. how are you feeling? i'm recovering every day. but it is still a long way to go. improving my strength. every day. but it is still a long way to go. improving my strengthm course. and emotionally... you worked with covid—19 patients, you are on the front line and u nfortu nately you are on the front line and unfortunately you are struck with the illness. you have been on the other side of that, receiving treatment. how did that affect you emotionally? it is really very strange, and a unique experience, because i‘ve been doing intensive ca re because i‘ve been doing intensive care for a very long time, and i saw all these problems and lately obviously the covid, but i never thought that i would be... that i would be a patient in icu. i guess people don‘t think this way. you just kind of come as a profession, you do yourjob and you go on. with the medical knowledge and especially in critical care, it was a very strange experience, because you kind of predict what is going to happen and how it is going to be, and even when one is confused after sedation i know that i am confused because of the critical illness, but i couldn‘t help it because i‘m still confused anyway. so it isjust help it because i‘m still confused anyway. so it is just bizarre, help it because i‘m still confused anyway. so it isjust bizarre, but glad to be back with a family. muzaina, i saw your listening closely to your dad there. he has been through an ordeal, but you the family have been to a roller—coaster as well, haven‘t you? not able to go and see him in hospital, then we saw those wonderful moments where he came home. what has it been like for you? yeah, it has been really difficult for us all as a family. what we said to everyone is the worst thing about this is you can't visit your loved ones when they are struggling the most, so that was what was hardest about it, that they would sure us on face time when he was in an induced coma and we just couldn't be there for him, so it was really difficult, yeah. what was that first hug like with your dad when he came home? it was amazing. when he came home, i didn't think i was going to cry but ijust burst into tears. it was just amazing to see him again and have him back home. we really didn't think that we would have him back, you know, so yeah... sorry, muzaina, but that didn‘t like when muzaina does say, she didn‘t know if we would have dad back home, this is a reality, isn‘t it? murad did actually go on a ventilator, and you were told, as a family, to not lose hope, but to be warranted in some way that there was no guarantee that he would come out of the other side, and you had to stay at home and not see him and live with that. how was that? yeah, it was very hard for us. ijust wished i could be there holding his hand, that he could hear my voice. it was just a very difficult moment for us. we we re very scared very difficult moment for us. we were very scared that we were going to lose him. we were terrified. we didn't expect it to happen. i know he always went to work and treated patients, but itjust never crossed my mind that this could happen to him. of course. it was very hard, and a sad six weeks, and very hard, and a sad six weeks, and very stressful. well, i'm so glad everything has worked out well for you. one question. who is the piano player? ah! and was there a celebration, a little celebration, any kind of celebration on the day dad came back? not yet, but when he was in hospital i did learn one of his favourite beethoven pieces, so that was something i actually got to do, i kept saying i'm going to learn it because i'm going to get him to listen to me play it when he gets back home. yesterday was a really busy day but hopefully today i can show him what i have learned for him. that is such a lovely thing to do, muzaina. the gift of music and you actually did it with the hope and the knowledge that your dad was going to come home. murad, that must mean so going to come home. murad, that must mean so much to you, making the coming back home all the more special. yes, it's really good to be with the family. i mean, when i was in the intensive care unit i was on my own unit with my colleagues and my own unit with my colleagues and my team, so that was a positive thing because i was with my other family, but it‘s good to be back at home and to continue to improve and rehabilitate. and i'm sure of course you will when you have the love and the music of the family as well. and good luck with the recital later today, muzaina. it‘sjust been lovely speaking to you all. murad, we wish you all the best, and, abeer, thank you very much as well. good luck to the family. it‘s funny. quite often people say they‘ve learnt something to do for their loved one. it might be a poem or something they play, or a song. that is going to be such a lovely moment this afternoon, isn‘t it? 21 minutes to nine. good morning. the cast of the mockumentary series, w1a, have returned for a lockdown special which pokes fun at some of the awkward video—conference calls many of us will have experienced with colleagues. including the wave at the end! in the video, which was posted on youtube yesterday, the team form a "bounce back group" to discuss ideas on how to entertain tv audiences during the pandemic. let‘s take a look. ok, so if anna seems to have frozen shall we start anyway? yes. yes, no, brilliant. the fact is i‘m not frozen. i just haven‘t moved. christ. blimey. 0k, good. for so welcome everybody, including anna, to the first ever lockdown meeting of the bbc covid—19 bounce back group. bounce back? brilliant. to begin to plot a path for what the new normal looks like and get there from where we are now. can i just say at the outset, as you know, i‘m a firm believer that every problem is a solution waiting to happen? brilliant. 0h... and i think we can say with some confidence that we are looking at one of the biggest solutions any of us us have ever seen here, so that‘s another big positive to take out of all of this. yes, no, fabulous, very good. ok, so i think the most pressing item on the agenda, then, it‘s probably programming. yes, exactly. yeah, also looking at repeating the whole of wimbledon 2013 when murray won. right. red button, the lot. yes. plus we're currently repeating... match of the day with gary lineker on his city. basically we're putting everything we have on iplayer back in live tv. it is all gone backwards. we are close to repeat and still looking at this black hole coming towards us. laughter if you haven‘t seen it, watch it because the solution they come up with is ridiculous. it is radical! like my it‘s ridiculous, and almost genius as well. almost. we are joined by two of the actors you saw there. —— joined by two of the actors you saw there. -- yes, ridiculous and almost genius as well. we‘re joined now by actors jason watkins and sarah parish. good morning. 0ften actors hate seeing themselves on telly, particularly back in the days when we used to have you guys here on the sofa. they almost turn away. but you we re sofa. they almost turn away. but you were giggling away watching that. this is funny! it is funny! it is funny. i remember we were trying to get something off the ground for a while. there a lovely writerjohn martin was actually doing a paid job so martin was actually doing a paid job so it took him awhile to get round to it but we really wanted to do something just to cheer people up really, and i remember when the script came through thinking, god, i‘ve really missed these characters. there are so much fun, they‘re so great to do. jason, what was it like? it is three years on since you quys like? it is three years on since you guys have worked together. very different format, but back together. i was laughing there because basicallyjust vanity, i think, laughing at myself. it was really great to do it because it felt almost normal again. you actually felt like you were working again, which is wonderful. i think those characters are so which is wonderful. i think those characters are so embedded in us, and hugh and i have been tweeting for a couple of years, and character, and sarah are joined, and i think rufusjonesjoin, so it became this kind of little world and we reacted to things like bbc sound, all a bit of wit, but so brilliant john martin actually has written something so brilliant and funny just to bring us all together again. —— john morton. it was great to make and we had a great time filming. some wonderful phrases propping up. what was that, i think we have reached a peak repeat? was that the phrase? yes, that is when tracy, rather negative, so she is always really rather down on everything thee, that was one of the sayings. it is just the way he writes, john, it is so brilliant. it would be lovely to be able to do some more, andi lovely to be able to do some more, and i know bbc two are very interested in showing this one, and maybe they will let us do some more, who knows? it would be great to introduce the other characters back in because i know a lot of people have been requesting siobhan sharp back. she was the pr chief. no offence to you two, but in amongst that little line—up they are, my eye is permanently drawn, and forgive me, i don‘t know the character‘s name, but the director of news, top right, looking at the screen. sigh amia right, looking at the screen. sigh am i a fantastic performance, shall we say, but he is the real cynic, yes, he cuts through the bs, if i can use that term. the sort of weary resignation... that glimpse of what other people might be saying at that time. i think it is one of the strengths of the series. it is not just about bbc, but any corporation and any kind of work environment, there is always the cynic, always someone there is always the cynic, always someone talking nonsense. serdar, obviously we are looking at w1a done ona obviously we are looking at w1a done on a zoom app or something of a similar ilk —— sarah, obviously we are looking at. how have you embraced lockdown? some do, and some don‘t. embraced lockdown? some do, and some don't. yes, i have embraced zoom, been doing an awful lot of zoom meetings. i run a charity so a lot of zooming with the charity, and, funnily enough, tonight there is a big zoom event i am holding with amanda holden and keith lemon. there are still tickets available, so if people want to go to my social media or amanda‘s social media and buy a ticket, we are having a big celebrity quiz. all the girls i a lwa ys celebrity quiz. all the girls i always have a girls night with on friday, myself, angela griffin, nicola stephenson, amanda holden and... we are having a proper ladies night quiz. everybody can join in. it would be great if people could buy a ticket and come and join because all the proceeds are obviously going to the nhs front—liners so i‘m really looking forward to that, a big zoom event. keith lemon, i would imagine, forward to that, a big zoom event. keith lemon, iwould imagine, quite ha rd to keith lemon, iwould imagine, quite hard to control in those circumstances. i don't know, this is a first for me. i don‘t know if anyone has done this before so it will be quite riotous and lord knows what any of us will say because after a few cocktails it could get a bit hairy out there! you‘ll have to join in to see. jason, it is so interesting, isn‘t it, finding out how people feel at the moment, how people are coping. we were looking at retail sales, and alcohol sales are up, trackie bottom sales up, but food actually dropping now. how do you for in and that trend? are you following the trend? just drinking most of the day, i suppose, really. starting about ten o'clock and just carry on drinking. no, i did i am actually really good, doing lots of cycling and things like that, but also lots of zoom stuff, chatty stuff, and i think i have got involved with, michelle connor is getting some actors together monologues, just for the netherland fund, because performers will really struggle in the future, and i think james graham spoke so brilliantly —— benevolent fund. people arriving in television, making their name in television, making their name in television, theatre stars, so it is just a way of the public being aware that actors are struggling and need a little bit of help, but you can just tune in and watch people like ian mckellen doing speeches, just trying to support our fellow performers. but, no, i've been very good. home—schooling is the thing i am struggling with. it is very difficult. fight mike tyson, one question, a trivial thing, but it is kind of delight for us —— question, a trivial thing, but it is kind of delight for us -- ok, jason, one question. how much did you think about what we can see of your home? ican about what we can see of your home? i can see some kitchen stuff, utensils, the radio. did you think, how do i want to choreograph my scene for bbc breakfast this morning? around me, it is my daughter's 13th morning? around me, it is my daughter's13th birthday today. she is now a teenager, so i'm wishing hera happy is now a teenager, so i'm wishing her a happy birthday. she is over there and she is very shy. come on, come and say... come on. what's her name again? betty. don't do that, if she doesn‘t want to be on that is fine. but in the absence of seeing her i will wish betty a very happy 13th birthday. it is a brilliant age, betsy. brilliant age to be. the whole kitchen, it is all festooned with bunting and all sorts but, yeah, i have chosen a rather bland corner. sara, you have to say you look like you have some clothes thrown over a chair behind you, so is that the casual look? 0r thrown over a chair behind you, so is that the casual look? or is that a blanket —— sarah. laughter yeah! that is indeed clothes thrown over. this is the opposite dot might not usually my office, but this has become nel‘s school—run, where we do home—schooling with nel, so i tried to put everything out the way, then underneath my shirt i have on my running gear, so ijust whip the shut off after this and go straight running, so it is quite nice being able to do stuff like this where i don‘t have to get properly dressed up. i have my don‘t have to get properly dressed m' ing don‘t have to get properly dressed up. i have myjogging bottoms underneath. there there. jason, we won‘t ask you to do the same thing, for obvious reasons. laughter lovely talking to you both this morning. a delightful bit of television you have made. thank you very much. that was lovely. thank you. take care. we were talking about arts, weren‘t we? just how theatre has changed, and there‘s lots of effort to bring that back or at least show some support, and the same with music as well. music venues across the uk have reported significant financial losses, but now the boss of the royal albert hall has told bbc breakfast he hopes they will be open for business by the autumn. more than 1000 events were hosted at the venue last year but in the last two months there have been none, which has prompted artists to introduce drive—in gigs and virtual reality performances. here‘s our entertainment correspondent colin paterson. orchestral music plays the royal albert hall, packed on the first night of the proms 2019. # sanctus... # less than one year later, katherinejenkins would perform on the same stage for ve day, with no audience allowed. one of the world‘s busiest concert venues, it‘s desperate to reopen, having lost £8.5 million in revenue in the two months since its coronavirus closure. but there are hopes shows could return in the autumn. and they‘ve been looking to south korea for inspiration. the theatre in seoul which is putting on phantom of the opera at the moment. and it‘s a 2,000 seat theatre and it‘s selling to about 80% capacity. and the reason they‘re able to do that as people sitting pretty much in regular seats as you would normally do, you have a lot of checks and balances on the way into the theatre. so all the audience members where masks, all the stewards wear masks, there are security does, heat testing on the way in, sanitising as you come into the venue, and it‘s really, really scrupulous. # oh, i remember someone saying, "smile". # who would have thought we'd still be smilin' now...# country superstar keith urban has a new album, the speed of now, out in september so is determined to work out a way to going to. last week he played a drive—in gig outside nashville. # sneaking out the window, running back roads. # your hand in mine # we were going nowhere, we were so alive...# i felt like i was in that cartoon cars, you know the pixar one? playing to all the headlights and everything. thank you so much. for a guy like me who is used to playing all the time, even a few months of not playing live is very strange. so when the idea of the drive—in came about, it was like, "yeah, let's do that." how practical would be to do a full drive—in tour? in theory it should be easy to do, the thing that complicates as you just can't get that many cars in there and then the idea of travelling it around is difficult because no matter how minimal your crew is, and our crew is incredibly lean, minimal crew, you still have to figure how to get everyone around. so i don't know if we are going to be able to pull that off. i would be up for doing more local ones. foo fighters headlined last year‘s reading and leeds festivals, both have cancelled in 2020, but the man behind them, melvin ben, is adamant that outdoor gigs will return next spring and he‘s already started booking acts. in the absence of a vaccine we need to create an environment where people can still feel relatively confident that they can go into a space and feel, you know, comfortable about bumping into somebody. i think festivals will feel similar. i‘m definitely not planning a socially distanced reading or latitude festival, for instance. but at manchester‘s band in the wall, they don‘t see her shows can return as long as there are social distancing rules. you're talking about reducing a 340—ca pacity venue to about 60 people. if you were to keep the two—metre distance between them all — and that's probably being quite generous. # give your all to me. # give my all to you...# that‘s the kind of reason why some major acts have been turning to virtual reality gigs, where fans at home wear headsets. john legend performed one in la last weekend. it‘s really a show—and—tell technology — once people see it then they get it. you can obviously watch it on your phone, through the app, but if you actually have a vr device then it feels like you‘re in the room. and injohn‘s case, you know, it feels like you are in the room withjohn legend who‘s performing to you on the piano one—on—one. and that‘s a really special moment. # 0h, love me now... # virtual reality, indeed. the actual reality — it may be many more months before mosh pits. colin paterson, bbc news. and we can now speak to vinny mayjunior, from the irish band kodaline, and concert architect ray winkler. fight back i‘m doing a guitar count behind you and i can see three guitars. is that right? all the kit. drums as well. how is lockdown going for you? drums as well. how is lockdown going foryou? —— drums as well. how is lockdown going for you? —— vinny, drums as well. how is lockdown going foryou? —— vinny, i‘m doing drums as well. how is lockdown going for you? —— vinny, i‘m doing a guitar count. lucky in that respect, but we are so used to playing gigs, asa band but we are so used to playing gigs, as a band come do here, is a really strange not doing that for the past two months, and i suppose something we need to get used to for the time being. creatively, is there an upside? are you writing stuff? how does it work like that? for the first two weeks of the lockdown we kind of treated it as a holiday because we had been working on our album forjust because we had been working on our album for just over a because we had been working on our album forjust over a year so we kind of took it as a holiday, but then after that we try to come up with different ways to try to engage with different ways to try to engage with our fans. we started doing live streams on youtube and facebook and stuff. we are still writing songs, we are in the middle of an album campaign kind of leading to a release injune, campaign kind of leading to a release in june, trying campaign kind of leading to a release injune, trying as best we can. it's interesting, isn't it? you are at the side where organising concerts, helping bands, you know, get these gigs going, and a lot of them rely on the income from this, and there is no prospect of that at the moment? yes, absolutely. there is no denying that this covid pandemic has been having an absolutely devastating impact on the music industry and the live industry in particular. if you take into consideration that over three quarters of the people working in the industry are freelance and all dependent on an audience to come and see our work, not having the audience being able to come definitely has had an impact, and i think it‘s something that will recalibrate and reset the way we think about the future of live entertainment. what does that look like, then? 0ne entertainment. what does that look like, then? one of the things we saw when we were playing a report was someone when we were playing a report was someone watching a gig with goggles, virtual reality. i mean, is it old gigs that are sold again in terms of the people who want that virtual experience of enjoying a gig? what does it look like in the future? well, it‘s a really good question, and the future is always fiendishly difficult to predict. i mean, vr and ar technologies are around and we‘ve been playing with that for a long time so it is nothing new to me. in the live music industry in particular nothing is ever static, technology evolves at such a fast rate, and i think covid—19 will probably have been the catalyst to accelerate some of the developments we are seeing in the vr and ar experience, but remember the music and the live experience is a tribal experience. people want to come together and share, and whereas the vr and ar can simulate some of these, what really is missing is the other senses that get tangled, the smell of a summer concert, the taste of some wine, the friendship and the camaraderie of coming and joining to watch a performance. i think those still prevail. vinny, without the got a little time left. can ijust say, a little earlier on we were talking to a family and the dad had recovered from covid. the daughter had been learning a piece of beethoven to play on his return on the piano. you will probably know, andi the piano. you will probably know, and i don‘t know if you have m essa g es and i don‘t know if you have messages from people, but music really matters at times like this. i bet people are getting lots from songs you have created over the yea rs ? songs you have created over the years? yeah, no, music doesn't stop, and just because you can't go to a gig doesn't mean you can't consume music, watch music and listen to videos and stuff. that is really important. we get messages every day from fans saying music is helping them... certain songs helping them get through tough times, certain songs were meant to be the first dance and stuff like that, people messaging seeing their weddings have been cancelled and things. music, as terrible as all this is going on, people are listening to music a lot more now, you know, and associating music with what's going on, so we're just there to help feed that, i guess. a great thought, vinny. thank you, ray, as well, and good luck to you, ray, as well, and good luck to you both with the rest of lockdown. that‘s it from the team on breakfast this morning. we will be back with you tomorrow at six. goodbye. this is bbc news with the latest headlines. new figures show the dramatic effect on the economy of the coronavirus crisis — it‘s terrible news for the high street, as retail sales show their biggest ever monthly fall. and government borrowing in april was more than £62 billion — the largest monthly amount on record. quarantine plans for entering the uk will be announced later, with possible fines of £1,000 if people fail to self—isolate for 14 days. scientific advice on opening schools is published later,

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Fife-born Blue Planet ilfmmaker and photographer Doug Allan on The Health Lottery Podcast

Fife's Doug Allan appears on The Health Lottery Podcast with Danni Menzies

Blue Planet Filmmaker and Photographer Doug Allan premieres on The Health Lottery podcast hosted by Scots born radio and TV personality, Danni Menzies. In this 20 episode series she explores the essence of big and small wins in life and the importance of giving back. Her first guest is Bristol-based filmmaker and photographer Doug Allan, whose awards include 8 Emmys and 5 BAFTAs over his long and distinguished career.

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