saying the white house knew in advance about that. several times with the phone with the white house i presented with the secretary my decision. who did you talk to in the white house? i actually do not know who was on the phone. reporter: one republican reminded jarvis of the discretion he exercised two years ago when he declined to enforce no camping status against occupiers? do you consider first amendment activity to walk to a monument you helped build or only just smoking pot at mcpherson square? we are content nutral on first amendment and national mall. reporter: an officer of the claude moore colonial farm, a nonprofit site complained about its closure. we have never been included in government shutdowns and know park employees at the farm nor have there been since 1981. the form has since 2001 received $1.3 million of federal appropriations from the national park service.