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>> the worst hit is boston expecting five-foot snow drifts. my god! if that happens to new york we won't find our mayor until spring! welcome to "cbs this morning." charlie rose is off today. anthony mason is with us. as you're waking up in the west police in southern california may be closing in on a former officer who declared war on his own. christopher dorner is accused of shooting two police officers yesterday in river side california, killing one of them. he was already wanted for killing a young couple. the dragnet stretches for hundreds of miles across southern california, but this morning, the focus is on big bear outside los angeles. ben tracy is there, ben, good morning. >> reporter: norah and anthony good morning. with daylight on the west coast the search resumes for christopher dorner. they did have small search teams working this area throughout the night but so far no sign of him. the authorities acknowledge this could be an elaborate diversion or perhaps even a trap. when an assault team descended on the mountain town of big bear california, authorities hoped they were hot on the trail of christopher dorner. 125 officers joined the search following fresh tracks in the snow that led from this burned out truck they say belongs to dorner. investigators have been combing the truck for clues as s.w.a.t. teams search door to door for the suspected killer. >> i have no idea what his thoughts were. we're doing everything we can to search the area and attempt to find him. certainly he could be anywhere at this point and that's why we're searching door to door. >> turn around. >> reporter: more than a dozen local, state and federal agencies joined the manhunt thursday after dorner allegedly shot at four police officers in river side county near los angeles, killing one and wounding two others. >> this is a somewhat unprecedented or at least a very rare occurrence for us. we have a trained and heavily armed person who is hunting for police officers. >> reporter: it appears to be revenge. 3-year-old christopher dorner was fired from the lapd in 2008 after filing a false brutality complaint against a fellow officer. he also has military training having served in the navy. >> of course he knows what he's doing. we trained him. he was also a member of the armed forces. it is extremely worrisome and scary especially to the police officers involved. >> reporter: in a rambling manifesto on his facebook page he details of what he sees is abuse in the police department and targets dozens of officers by name writing "i will bring unconventional and asymmetrical warfare to those in lapd uniform, whether on or off duty will you now live the life of the prey. i never had the opportunity to have a family of my own. i'm terminating yours." investigators believe dorner murdered monica quan and her fiance in a parked car sunday. quan's father is a retired los angeles police captain who represented dorner at his disciplinary hearings. >> i would tell him to turn himself in. this has gone far enough. nobody else needs to die. >> reporter: the weather up here with the snow the wind and temperatures in the low 30s is complicating this search and keep in mind they're dealing with a guy who has finally honed survival skills. this is someone who was in the military and also on the police force. >> ben tracy, thanks ben. bill bratton was the los angeles police chief while christopher dorner was in the lapd and senior correspondent john miller former head of the major crimes division at the lapd under bratton. good morning to you both. >> good morning. >> they found his truck. do we think that's going to take us any closer to him at this point? >> john and i were talking about that, our perspective is it's probably a diversion, 80 miles outside of l.a. and the latest new story he might be in the san diego area so possibly a diversionary tactic to draw people up to the area while he's headed south. >> how well equipped is the lapd to deal with something like this? >> this circumstance the lapd is superbly equipped for this in terms of their investigative capabilities, their resources and the southern california police community is incredibly well networked with each other. each department works very well seamlessly with each other. so the manhunt that's under way is coordinated, it's sophisticated, and is as you've seen very comprehensive. >> commissioner we have a picture of you and christopher dorner together. do you remember him? >> don't remember him, but looking at this picture, he's in his military uniform, chances are this was when he was being deployed into the military i'd bring them up to my office and wish them well bring their families up and introduce them to our military liaison officer and give them a good luck charm, if you will as they went off. >> you were mentioned in his manifesto and also cnn was mailed a package in which you were specifically referenced and there was a ceremonial coin with your name and it had three bullet holes in it. this is the picture that we have courtesy of "anderson cooper 360." what is your reaction? >> it's very chilling. this is the actual coin it is a custom you give as a sign of respect a good luck charm for those going overseas. when you see that coin was given in friendship and respect has three bullet holes, certainly very chilling. i was surprised cnn had not actually moved that to the police officials when they received it. >> and so john what do you make of that, given this new piece of evidence and we know what his motive is. he has a beef with the police department and that's why he's gone after police officers. >> what i make of that is i mean if we're talking about the offender characteristics and the profile here is a remarkable amount of pre-staging to put this on the map, even before he took the action that would make news. what i'm thinking through this morning is with the burning truck and setting the truck on fire on that mountain was really meant to draw people to it is somebody would put that much pre-staging planning into a series of events that they've clearly calculated it's doubtful that they didn't put the same amount of planning into an end game so at this stage, as we round third base towards home it makes you wonder what is his plan for the end game? >> well police officers are armed obviously, most of them are. how do you bro tect an entire police department? effectively the whole department say target and also let's say there are some innocent people killed here too. >> that's true. i spoke to jeff beck yesterday shortly after the two newspaper people mistakenly shot by the lapd officers guarding one of the houses of concern, so the police are certainly on edge in the sense that one of these assaults that killed the river side police officer was totally unprovoked, goes up beside their car with a semiautomatic rifle just starts shooting at them. so this is an incredibly dangerous individual. john and i were talking we're surprised now all of this attention that he's brought on to himself that he has not sought to reach out to the media to now exploit it. it's very interesting he's stayed quiet all during this time. police training is he's aware anything he uses electronically can be immediately zeroed in on so he's possibly staying silent because of that understanding. >> it's very interesting in the planning arc of this, january 31st, he cut off all his cell phones and other connections. he erased his communications platform. that doesn't mean he doesn't have one. it probably means in his planning he got throw-away phones and other devices that aren't traceable to him. >> all right. >> that just has a longer term strategy. >> it does and that's why i keep coming back to he has brought this to a certain pinnacle. it seems like he's going to be moving towards however he wants this to wrap up and that could take a number of different forms. >> bill bratton, john miller thank you. >> later a closer look at the suspect christopher dorner and his violent manifesto. if you have friends and family in the northeast, chances are they are racing to stock up on supplies this morning, and a dangerous and potentially record-breaking blizzard is dumping snow on millions of people this morning. >> blizzard warnings are posted from here in new york city to boston, with up to two feet of snow forecast and damaging winds. the worst is expected to hit tonight, and continue into tomorrow morning. >> we are covering all angles of the blizzard from the storm's path to the travel headaches. so we start with seth doane in new york city where it's all beginning. seth, good morning. >> reporter: good morning and good morning to our viewers in the west. as you can see, it is already snowing here in new york. we're expecting upwards of a foot of snow and wind gusts of 50 to 60 miles per hour which could really complicate that snow removal. i'm standing in front of some of the 250,000 tons of salt the city has raised and spread on its roadways in 365 salt-spreading trucks. the mayor is not taking any chances here in new york city after being criticized so much for his mishandling of the snow removal back in that blizzard of 2010. some residents were snowbound for days. one of the other real concerns with this blizzard is the forecast storm surge, only three to five feet in the forecast but that could be a real problem in parts of long island queens and brooklyn so devastated during superstorm sandy those natural coastal defenses are gone, and even a relatively low three to five-foot storm surge could create a problem. we're starting to see some schools being closed or closed early, as this storm is expected to get worse throughout the day. >> seth doane, thank you. and from new york to boston the travel nightmare has already begun with thousands of flights canceled. starting this afternoon, all flights, that's right, all flights in and out of boston's logan airport are grounded and that affects flights all across the country. terrell brown is at logan, terrell, good morning. >> reporter: norah, anthony good morning to you. nearly 500 flights have been canceled in boston more than 1,800 in the new york area and officials here saying with that many flight cancellations on the grid you can expect air travel problems throughout the day today and maybe through the weekend, and it's not, folks on the west coast taking a flight out of the country's mid section or on the west coast out of california, lax, you can maybe run into some cancellations. good idea to check with your air provider before headed to the airport. amtrak canceling rail service, no trains running from new york to boston that starts this afternoon and the common theme we're seeing here is that the snow will come down t will accumulate quickly so forecasters are telling folks to get to a safe place and be prepared to stay there. >> terrell brown, thanks. cbs news weather consultant david bernard is tracking the blizzard for us. david, what's the latest? >> the storm has taken shape this morning let's go right to our radar, we can really see this low starting to form right on the outer banks of north carolina that's where the low is located right now, that continues to move north during the day. rain spreading ahead of it and look at the forecast storm track by 7:00 this evening, a powerful low will be located just east of atlantic city, and again, new york is going to be right on the edge of this rain/snow line but all areas inland will be experiencing very heavy snows and that blizzard will really take shape tonight and then as we go into saturday morning, especially over southeastern new england and connecticut that's when the worst of it will be. the snow potential hasn't changed all that much. the area we could see two feet or more of snow is generally in this area here but i'm keeping the line of more than a foot of snow back into the new york city area and maybe even the western end of long island we could see that much snow. it all depends on how fast that rain/snow changeover occurs and we don't know that just yet. >> david sorry to hear that. it's not just the snow it's also the wind. >> right when you talk about a blizzard anthony, the snow is, you have the accumulating snow but the blizzard hazards refer to visibility and wind and right now i think wind gusts to 60 will be common across a good part of the northeast. coastal areas could see hurricane force wind gusts, meaning around 75 miles per hour that's going to mean power outages likely and zero visibility will make travel just about impossible and as seth was mentioning look at the coastal floodwaters from delaware the jersey shore up into the maine coastline, if you're in a flood prone area and your local emergency management is telling you watch out or don't travel on certain words pay attention to what they're saying. capitol hill defense secretary leon panetta revealed president obama was the one who blocked the plan to arm rebel fighters in syria. the plan was directed by david petraeus and backed by pentagon leaders and secretary of state hillary clinton. the white house had doubts which rebels could be trusted with the arms. those details came to light during a senate hearing on libya and republicans had some tough questions for panetta, who revealed he and president obama spoke once during the eight-hour benghazi attack that left four americans dead and explained why the pentagon didn't send any war planes. >> reporter: the reason planes were not launched the attack came in two waves in two different locations and after the first wave ended after about an hour and a half they all thought it was over plus he said there wasn't enough actionable intelligence on the ground to act. >> you can't just willy-nilly send f-16s there and blow the hell out of a place without knowing what's taking place. >> reporter: under questioning by republicans secretary panetta and the joint chiefs of staff martin dempsey say they were aware in the months before attack u.s. ambassador chris stevens was worried about security in libya. >> did you receive that information? >> i did and i saw -- >> so it didn't poertbother you? >> it bothered me a great deal. >> why didn't you put forces in place to be ready to respond? >> because we never received a request to do so. >> he reported benghazi was one of u.s. outposts receiving threats. >> the u.s. military has neither the resources nor the responsibility to have a firehouse next to every u.s. facility in the world. >> reporter: the white house has provided few details about the president's actions the night of the benghazi attacks. panetta revealed he briefed the president at the start of the attack, but the two men did not speak again that night. >> are you surprised that the president of the united states never called you, secretary panetta to say, how's it going? >> you know normally in these situations -- >> did he know the level of threat -- >> let me finish the answer. we were deploying the forces. he knew we were deploying the forces. he was being kept -- >> i hate to interrupt you but i got limited time. we didn't deploy any forces. >> the president is well-informed about what is going on. make no mistake about it. >> reporter: this was pa net ta's last time testifying on capitol hill as secretary of defense. is he retiring and moving back to california. president obama will be delivering farewell remarks to panetta at a ceremony this afternoon at 1:00 p.m. pacific. norah and anthony? >> nancy cordes thank you. time to show you some of the morning's headlines from around the globe. "the new york times" says iran's supreme leader rejected talks with the united states saying "the iranian nation will not negotiate under pressure." the united states that's important because the ayatollah khamenei decides the actions of iran." "san francisco chronicle" is requiring all guns to be registered with the state. none of the soldiers were killed in the combat zone and return home to california. the "wall street journal" is investigating all three major credit ratings firms, they are all being asked to hand over information about how they rated mortgage bonds ahead of the 2008 financial meltdown. and the update everyone's been waiting for, the "new orleans times-picayune" says sunday's blackout was caused by faulty relay equipment, ironically put in place to protect the stadium from a cable storm clouds continue to roll on through the showers beginning to decrease still some showers though in toward the south bay. overlooking san francisco, you can see cloudy skies right now but the rain has ended there. showers continuing toward san jose. and even some snow over our local mountains. by the afternoon, that will be long gone. temperatures running into the 50s. it will be cool and brisk dry for the weekend staying dry well into next week. >> announcer: this national weather report sponsored by kay jewelers. every kiss begins with kay. the senate argues over drone attacks while a nearby navy base is testing the next generation of pilotless planes. dave martin shows us the drone that could soon be landing on aircraft carriers and why it's nothing you've seen before. plus the hidden dangers of buying your prescriptions online. we'll show you why one in every four americans could be putting themselves at risk. and the high school football star's college plans are intercepted by his mom. >> it wasn't her necessarily grabbing the papers and running outside. it was more o family feud ahead on "cbs this morning." >> announcer: this portion of "cbs this morning" sponsored by the u.s. postal service. schedule your free package pickup today. different companies. well, technically i work for one. that company, the united states postal service® works for thousands of home businesses. because at usps.com® you can pay, print and have your packages picked up for free. i can even des. i wear a lot of hats.chnically i wear one. the u.s. postal service® no business too small. 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>> yes. >> reporter: unmanned aircraft offer the obvious advantage of being able to attack heavily defended targets without risking a pilot's life putting them aboard an aircraft carrier would give the navy the capability to launch strikes virtually anywhere in the world. >> the biggest thing is you don't have to worry about permission from other countries to operate a vehicle from foreign airfields. >> reporter: that won't happen until 2017 but two of these unmanned aircraft are flying over the persian gulf today, and have been for the past three years. >> david what about the concerns that this is now war by remote control? >> reporter: well, the navy and all the military services say there is still a man in the loo, even with the x-47b that you saw which was responding to a computer program, there was someone in a trail we areer with a computer that could have taken over that flight or given it a new computer command, so they say it is a remotely piloted vehicle, not an unmanned vehicle. >> david martin, thanks. you can see david's whole report on "next gen drones" this weekend on "cbs sunday morning." sunday bob schieffer talks about drones, cyber warfare and the chuck hagel nomination with senators lindsey graham and jack reed sunday on "face the nation" here on cbs. and if you've ever thought your mom was overprotective imagine what alex collins must be thinking. he's a nationally ranked high school football star who signed to play for the arkansas razorbacks only after tackling what may be his biggest opponent. jim axelrod is here to explain. >> reporter: good morning, norah. every college coach in the country will tell you the same thing, you want to recruit a high school football star then win over his mom. the drama playing out right now in college football is a public example of what happens when you don't. in the world of college football it might be the most important day of the year national signing day. >> the florida state university. >> reporter: the day when many of the best high school football players in the country sign the scholarship offer to play football at one of the many colleges recruiting them. it's a day full of drama. >> university of alabama. >> reporter: with the national tv audience tuned in to watch the announcements that could make or break a program. this year one of the country's best player alex collins missed out on signing papers and celebrating a scholarships. he's a highly coveted running back in south plantation high school. >> my mom thought i should wait. it wasn't her grinding up the papers and running outside, it was more of her protecting me making sure i want to go to school for the next four years of my life. >> reporter: monday collins surprised everybody, including family and friends by saying he would pass over the university of miami choosing instead -- >> the university of arkansas. >> reporter: under ncaa rules a parent or legal guardian must sign the binding letter of intent for any athlete under the age of 21 but two days later on signing day his mother andrea mcdonald, refused to sign the papers instead she ran off with them, so late wednesday night, collins called his father who hadn't always been present raising him. thursday collins brought his father to a press conference to sign the letter of intent. alex collins was an arkansas razorback. >> i have a good relationship with my mom, she's never missed a football game and i appreciate her for that. >> reporter: his mother wasn't done. she hired a lawyer from johnny cochran's old law firm. the attorney said mrs. mcdonald hopes all ncaa rules and regulations were followed during today's signing. she is not seeking any personal financial gain because her only concern is for alex's happiness and well-being. at that press conversation in which you which you just saw alex collins dressed in a camouflage story because this story isn't bizarre enough collins has spoke within his mom and she isn't against him going to arkansas she just wanted to buy him some more time before signing so that he didn't make the wrong decision. norah, anthony? 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in just a moment. good morning. the bay bridge is still a big problem spot. there was an earlier motorcycle accident in our 6:00 hour and it's been jammed solid well into the macarthur maze ever since. you're looking at a more than 20-minute wait just to get you on the span, the approaches are backed up, as well. use bart or the san mateo bridge. let's check the san mateo bridge. it looks okay free and clear in both directions. that is traffic. for your forecast, here's lawrence. >> the skies starting to part a little bit a few showers lingering outside but i think things winding down now overlooking san jose. a lot of cloud cover there but you can see to the north, you have some clearing skies. still some showers in the mountaintops. our high-def doppler radar is picking up on that even a light dusting of snow overnight. check that out throughout the day. temperatures will be cool and brisk. highs only in the 50s. dry for the weekend. it should be warmer, too. good morning everybody. it is 8:00 a.m. welcome back to "cbs this morning." the blizzard of 2013 is sarting, and millions are in the path of a winter blast that could break records and bring travel to a halt. flights are already getting canceled. it's getting much hotter in los angeles. gayle is at the staples center getting ready for the grammys. she has ll cool j, carly rae jepsen and more. the search resumes for christopher dorner. they had small search teams working this area through the night, but so far no sign of him. >> police in southern california may be closing in on a former officer who declared war on his own. >> makes you wonder what is his plan for the end game. >> the police are certainly on edge. this is an incredibly dangerous individual. >> it is already snowing here in new york. we're expecting upwards of a foot of snow. >> in the northeast, dangerous and potentially record breaking blizzard is dumping snow on millions this morning. >> nearly 500 flights canceled in boston more than 1800 in the new york area. >> the blizzard will really take shape tonight. it will depend on how fast the rain-snow changeover occurs. >> i'm standing in front of a very large unmanned aircraft. >> the controversy over the use of drones isn't stopping the military from testing the next generation of planes without pilots. >> every college coach in the country will tell you the same thing. if you want to recruit a high school football star then win over his mom. >> it wasn't her necessarily grabbing the papers and running outside. it was more of her protecting me. >> blizzard warnings are posted from new york to boston with up to two feet of snow forecast and damaging winds. >> new york will receive up to 12 inches of snow this weekend. or as subway calls it, 11 inches. i'm norah o'donnell with gayle king and anthony mason. charlie rose is off. blizzard warnings are up as a historic storm moves into the northeast. some areas could see heavy snow and hurricane-force winds by tonight. cbs news weather consultant david bernard is tracking the storm. david, how bad is this storm going to be? >> real bad in spots, norah. maybe some people will get off a bit easier. it's way too soon to say who that is going to be. we're all getting ready for this major storm. here we are this morning, the storm is taking shape on the outer banks of north carolina. the thinking is this is going to continue to the northeast paralleling the coast all day long. this takes us to 7:00 this evening. it's going to be real tricky in long island and the new york city area. when the changeovers occurs that's will have a lot to do with how much we see in the city. heavy snow by this evening, through tonight, into tomorrow morning. the worst of it will be across southeastern new england by the time we get to that point in time. now, the snowfall potential, it still looks like that corridor running from southern new hampshire and massachusetts, most of connecticut and rhode island, that's where the heaviest snow potential is. we're looking for potentially significant snows as far west as new york city and further north. even albany will get a pretty good bout of snow with this as well. so we have blizzard conditions in spots developing later today and tonight. that mean wind gusts to near 60 miles per hour. hurricane-force gusts near the coast, power outages and near zero visibility. that means travel will be very difficult. some spots could have coastal flooding as well. >> thanks david. new york and new jersey are still recovering from super storm sandy. now they face another potential disaster. seth doane is in new york. seth, good morning. >> reporter: good morning, anthony. as you can see the snow is already falling here. that means we're already starting to see flights canceled throughout the region as well. more than 3,000 flights have been canceled so far throughout the northeast and amtrak is reducing its rail service throughout the northeast corridor. we are under a blizzard warning here in new york city expectth upwards of a foot of snow and 50 to 60-mile-per-hour winds which could make removing that snow even more difficult. as you move further north boston is expecting upwards of two feet of snow. so it's been a busy morning this morning here at this salt depot in new york city. behind me you can see some of the 250,000 tons of salt new york has ready to spread on its roadways with 365 salt spreaders. we're also getting reports of long lines at gas stations at grocery stores as people start to prepare for this blizzard. anthony, gayle, norah. >> seth doane, thank you. more than 100 police officers are searching the mountains outside los angeles this morning for a former police officer wanted in three killings. yesterday in their rush to stop christopher dorner police actually accident and wounded two women delivering newspapers and fired on a third person. bill whitaker is at los angeles police headquarters. good morning. >> reporter: good morning, norah. this morning christopher dorner is on the run, accused of a killing spree that already has taken three lives. in his rambling online manifesto, the center of this massive manhunt say the people who know him probably can't believe what they're seeing hearing and reading in the media. his online diatribe is full of anger and threats, but the 33-year-old ex-police officer starts calmly addressing his friends. you are saying to yourself that this is completely out of character of the man you knew who always wore a smile, he writes. >> that's frankly what makes this so bizarre. >> reporter: oregon attorney james usera made dorner on the football team in 1998. they became friends, went rabbit hunting, debated politics. >> my experience with mr. dorner was overwhelmingly positive. i never saw any indications of violence or aggressiveness. certainly not anything that would suggest to me that he could commit the crimes he's been accused. >> reporter: he remembers dorner as a good student who served his country. dorner writes he was proud to serve in the naval reserve, even prouder to become an officer with the lapd something he dreamed of since being an explorer scout in his teens. >> he just wanted to be an officer. >> aaron alford was dorner's college football coach. they've kept in touch over the years. >> he was also -- it fits who i am. i like the military and i think the transition to being a police officer would fit. >> reporter: during his three years with the lapd the man with the smile became angry and depressed, accusing a fellow officer of using excessive force. a review panel found he had lied. dorner was fired in 2008. in his manifesto he writes i stood up for what was right and you did nothing but get rid of what you thought was the problem, the whistle-blower. you will see what a whistle-blower can do when you take everything of him, his name. he offers word of advice for everyone from tim tebow to talk show host ellen degeneres. for every insult he suffered in the lapd dorner adds he's turning his military and police training against those he says did him wrong. i will utilize every bit of small arms training demolition ordnance and survival training i've been given. his friend james usera remembers one more thing, dorner was especially sensitive toward anything he considered a racial slight. in his manifesto he did say he believes race was a factor in how he was treated by the lapd. when the truth comes out, the killings will stop he writes. then adds ominously, unfortunately i will not live to see my name cleared. gayle, norah, anthony. >> bill whitaker thank you. senior correspondent john miller is with us former head of the crimes division at lapd. good morning. what's going through the mind of a lot of these lapd officers who are now on this manhunt for christopher? >> you have different sets of officers. there are the people mentioned in his manifesto who are thinking am i safe? i can take care of myself. is my family safe? 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grateful. knock on it. knock on it. ♪ >> you must have done something right, ll cool j. i remember. i was here a year ago. i was actually here a year ago. and i'm wondering what your reaction was as grammy host. of course, we were all very sad about whitney houston's death but here you are not only talking about whitney houston's but you're the grammy host. i know you were sad about it. >> of course. that's the first thing. you're sad. then i got nervous because i realized everything has to change. what are we going to do? how am i going to address this? >> how do we speak to this time to this day? there is no way around this. we've had a death in our family. >> look we have this terrible tragedy that happened, and we have to address it in a respectful way. >> but it's still a celebration of music. >> but it's still a celebration of music. so we had to find that balance. >> so here we are a year later, ll cool j, and how are you feeling? you've got be feeling pretty good. >> i feel pretty good. >> you know you can do it. >> i know i can do it. but it's challenging. you climbed everett's once before but you still have to check your ropes and bring extra oxygen because you're going back to everest again. >> dress cold this year no breast, no butts, no puffy bare skin exposed. is that you? >> i still don't know what i want to wear. talking about musicians, them putting a dress code in place means they may come halfway decent. let's get clothes on them. all the dress code is going do is get clothes on them. >> the best thing about hosting the grammys is what? >> being close to the music. >> you seem to have so much fun doing it. >> just being close to music. being close to music. that's a beautiful thing. >> he said he wasn't sure what he was going to wear. he said he was trying to decide between speedos and a see-through shower curtain. i voted for both. you can see it right here on sunday night at 8:00 p.m. 7:00 p.m. central. he was in a great mood. it was a very 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southern california a search continues for ex-lapd cop christopher dorner accused of killing at least three people. he posted a manifesto online vowing revenge for getting fired years ago. his burning truck was found near big bear lake yesterday. a major snowstorm in the northeast is having ripple effects here in the bay area. the storm has prompted more than 3700 flight cancellations including 38 departures from sfo and 17 arrivals. some eastern cities could get up to three feet of snow by tomorrow. stay with us, traffic and weather coming right up. good morning. the bay bridge is improving ever so slightly after an earlier motorcycle accident. all lanes are cleared. unfortunately, we're still seeing good sized backups behind the pay gates well into the macarthur maze. the bart or the san mateo bridge would still be a great option for the friday morning drive. elsewhere coming up the guadalupe parkway, northbound 87 approaching curtner avenue an accident there multicar accident just cleared to the right-hand shoulder. but it's still slow going especially in the northbound lanes. that's traffic. for your weekend forecast, here is lawrence. >> all right. our weather improving as we head in toward the weekend, leaps and bounds. the skies beginning to part just a bit. still some scattered showers popping up outside. looking pretty gloomy looking bat towards sutro tower. more sunshine into the afternoon. maybe a little snow dusting across the mountains. hi-def doppler still showing showers over the santa cruz mountains but that's quickly sliding southward now. by the afternoon, should see a lot of sunshine and some cool temperatures. plan on highs only in the low 50s into pacifica, about 55 into san francisco. about 54 degrees in san jose. you can see the blue over the mountaintops keeping those highs only in the 40s. warmer over the weekend, dry and warmer through next wednesday. you score little victories every day. now you can do it with dinner. introducing land 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justin bieber. we're talking about carly rae jepsen of "call me maybe" fame. she just walked into the set and it's all i can do not to sing to her. she'll talk about how that song changed everything. that's all ahead. norah and anthony, back to you. >> thank you, gayle. looking forward to that. right now it's time for this morning's headlines. the hughes con chronicle reports a criminal investigation is underway after confidential e-mails from the bush family were hacked. e-mails with phone numbers, home addresses for both former presidents were compromised. the "wall street journal" says cheaper blends of coffee are getting more popular. bargain hunters are pushing the demand. the demand for more expensive blends is down because of weak economies in the u.s. and europe. korean airlines is building a $1 billion hotel and office sky kraeper in downtown l.a. it will stand 73 stories tall and should be ready by 2017. the "new york daily news" says there was a sticky situation for one 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that? >> i think it's so important as a company that offers a sweet treat, whether you're ice cream or cinnamon rolls to understand that people are going to give themselves discretionary calories, they deserve to treat themselves. we all have a responsibility to offer choice options and portion size. so a person who wants to share that roll with their friends, they can do that. we have a beautiful 300 calorie minibon that allows people to indulge a little more responsibly. >> we talk to a lot of entrepreneurs and business leaders on this show. so few of them are women, women in leadership positions. why do you think that is? >> i think that's changing. you're starting to see a lot of mid -- sort of mid tenure professional women that are that next generation of executive leaders. but i think it's been a convergence of women wanting to take their places leaving the home mothers. they end up in a position of conflict where they get to this point in their career where they love their job and face the opportunity to move up. but they're also looking at their personal goals with their family. i think now that -- i think things are changing and that young women are learning how to balance that how to manage it. and companies are getting a lot more understanding and flexible of different family needs, whether it's a young woman looking to raise a family or a more tenures employee who needs to raise their ailing parent. >> kat cole thank you very much. >> my pleasure. when it comes to the grammys, getting the best new artist award can be the key, alicia keys has won before. this year's nominees are getting it for the range and depth of their talent. ♪ tonight we are young ♪ >> ever since new york-based pop rock trio fun released their sophomore album, "some nights," they've been on a wild ride. their song "we are young" spent six weeks at number one and became the unofficial anthem of 2012. >> pretty unusual for a rock band to have the kind of success you're having these days. >> we've been doing this for such a long time. if we would have thought this would be the album, we'll get nominated for grammys and sell millions of singles, that kind of just left a long time ago. >> the band's been recognized with six grammy nominations this year including best new artist. ♪ ♪ >> if you can call them that. do you think of yourselves as new? >> it's been 12 years we've been doing this. this is the year that we've had our impact on whatever the culture is in a brighter sense. that's what best new artist is recognizing. >> it's true the grammys best new artist award isn't necessarily about being new. the official rules state that the artist must have released at least one album, but not more than three. >> success is preparation meets opportunity. i think the eight years of prep -- >> the lumaniers are another group with a long journey to the top of the chart. they've been playing their mix of music since 2012. ♪ i belong with you ♪ >> but last year's self titled album launched them into the mainstream. their single "ho hey" is still on the chart eight months after the debut. >> if you get the grammy is that the cherry on top? >> just retire after that. >> that's it? >> we talk about the grammys, it's kind of like a family that meets to gather for their inheritance. we never knew that was coming to us. it's weird to be disappointed if we don't win. it's just nice to get the recognition. >> the only other group up for the award are the alabama shakes. unknown just two years ago, the four members were juggling part-time jobs in the back woods of alabama when they decided to risk it all and record their debut album "boys and girls." >> if you don't do it the prize will remain the same. we had to quit our jobs, take a risk and go on that tour. ♪ ♪ >> blending hard rock retro soul and alabama blues, the group promises the best new artist award won't shake things up. >> it's not going to change anything as far as our music goes. >> over in neighboring tennessee, nashville's 21-year-old hunter hayes is the youngest and only country artist among the nominees. >> i always wanted to be a part of this industry and genre. to be now representing the genre is such a noble task you know. i don't really deep myself worthy. ♪ all i ever wanted ♪ >> hayes' number one country hit "wanted" is on his self-titled debut album. he co-wrote and co-produced every song. he also played every single instrument. >> if i get bored with one instrument it's just on to another. >> but the only other solo performer nominated may give all of them a run for their money. 25-year-old hip-hop single frank ocean's album "channel orange" is up for six awards including album of the year. but whether it's been a year of hard work or a decade in the end the award means the same to all five nominees. >> it's a big deal. it's a massive honor. it feels good to be recognized by our peers. ♪ ♪ all right, anthony. >> love that album. it's going to be a top race. five very talented acts. >> gayle, who are you rooting for? >> listen i was looking at anthony's piece. i'm now sort of smitten with this hunter hayes. like that song. i like it. >> i love who you've got coming up. >> yes, yes. we planned it very well because this is crazy but carly rae jepsen, here she is. one of last year's biggest hits there it is called "call me maybe." she got up early or maybe never went to bed. >> i've been awake. i stayed up for this one. >> she's going to stick ♪ there was one tune you ♪ ♪ >> there was one tune you simply could not escape last year. even general colin powell. "call me maybe" has made carly rae jepsen up for not one, but two awards on sunday. good morning. >> good morning. >> do you sort of feel like cinderella? >> yeah, i think that's a pretty strong comparison to that kind of going to the ball for the night. >> i say this because last year you were sitting at home watching the grammys in your pajamas. >> yes. >> this year you're going to be on the grammy stage presenting and in the audience with your fingers crossed thinking okay, maybe this could do it for me. >> yes, there is that sort of feeling of oh my goodness, i get to wear a dress and go to this big ball event. >> do you know what you're wearing? are you aware there's a dress code this year? >> i know. >> could i ask you this ms. jepsen. please make sure your buttocks and female breasts are adequately covered. check? >> check. >> thong-type >>. >> make sure that there's no visible puffy bare skin exposure. check? >> check. >> let's talk about what a ride this has been for you. here is justin bieber who heard the song, and before you know it we all heard it. >> yes. >> what has this ride been like since you know justin heard it and it started picking up stream? >> i remember in the beginning when he tweeted and called my manager and scooter vaughn got involved, i remember thinking it's too good to be true. i didn't call anybody. i kept it to myself. my immediate bandmates knew. in general i was very hush-hush. all of a sudden people said what's going on in your life. i have no idea. >> it's been number one for nine weeks. over 212 million people have looked at your video. i'm thinking this is the time you've arrived. >> it was kind of a group project. even that video was done by a friend of mine. two of my best buddies from canada. >> are you feeling pressure to make sure you're not a one-hit wonder? >> i don't feel that pressure. i know that i'm not. song writing is sort of the main thing for me. >> the lyric you said was a filler lyric. that catcher song wasn't something you even meant to be on the record. >> yes. >> that was a filler for you. >> it was a group project. when i was singing the lyrics no thought was that we would keep it. whatever happens happens. >> whatever happens has happened. you've got stiff competition, congratulations. you are there. thank you carly rae jepsen. we'll look back at the week that was. you're watching "cbs this morning." hopes she's made the right decision in her dress choice. she says of all these years of judging people maybe she should have been nicer, she says. you can see the grammy awards 8:00 7:00 central here on cbs. norah and anthony, back to you in new york, new york. >> great interviews. love see inging you. that does it for us as we leave you, let's take a look back at the week that was. have a fabulous weekend. ♪ o beautiful for spacious skies ♪ >> this was the longest super bowl ever. also then the most bizarre. >> to the end zone. he's in for the score. >> i literally finished an interview with the man in charge when the lights went out. >> another piece of adversity. just one more thing you've got to overcome and find a way. >> for the touchdown! >> one of the most memorable super bowls of all time. ♪ america ♪ >> good morning, angels. >> good morning, charlie. >> the baltimore ravens beat the 49ers 43-41. >> you just won a super bowl. could i see a happy face and a smile? there you go. blizzard conditions across the northeast. >> last thing they need now is another storm. >> you're absolutely right about that. >> is the message to america this morning get busy in the bedroom is the best way to serve your country? >> if he escaped, what -- >> would be set free to a zoo or something. i'll take him. >> charlie's taking the goat. new warning is in response to people use inging vine to watch and share porn. >> i was going to but i'm not. >> one tank. >> sisu come take the food. okay. >> she found a girlfriend. >> we like her already, don't we? >> that's how we differentiate alzheimer's from just benign forgetfulness. >> we have benign forgetfulness all the time. >> this morning. >> this morning. they had to convince you, why? >> my conscience got to me. >> right now in united states about a third of patients are getting the wrong treatment. >> what is your reaction to taking blood pressure? >> they say, what, are you turning this into a doctor's office or what? i got out there and started doing it. breaking news this morning, three southern california police officers have been shot. >> christopher dorner has been named the primary suspect. >> where do you get the stories? how does this song originate in your heart? >> if i knew where they would be, i would go there more often. >> who is that guy? who is that guy? >> 43 years old. >> not getting older rs charlie. you're getting better. >> when they call you a hero you're finally going to realize that you don't need to be a doctor to help others. ♪ alleluia ♪ >> your realtime captioner: linda marie macdonald good morning. it's 8:55. i'm michelle griego with your kpix 5 headlines. police in southern california spent all night searching without success for a former l.a. police officer. christopher dorner is accused of killing three people because he feels he was unfairly fired from his job. authorities plan a mid-morning update in big bear lake where dorner's torched pickup was found yesterday. new evidence set to be unsealed today in the murder case of a silicon valley millionaire. ravi kumra was killed during a home invasion robbery at his monte sereno mansion in november. raven dixon was charged with harboring one of the murder suspects. evidence against her has been sealed until today. san francisco's muni system will increase inspections to try to prevent another cable car accident like the one that injured 7 people on wednesday. the cable car was stopped suddenly by a bolt in the tracks that came from a switch plate. now those bolts will be checked weekly to make sure they don't come loose. here's lawrence with the forecast. >> storm system winding down now. looks like skies going to be clearing out as we head toward the afternoon. out there still some very gray skies toward san jose. but the showers even tapering off there now. hi-def doppler radar showing a couple of raindrops over the santa cruz mountains. if you look to the mountains toward the afternoon you may see a light dusting of snow later in the day. temperatures in the 50s outside. it is going to be a cool and brisk day. over the weekend should stay nice and dry and temperatures should be warmer. >> we'll check your "timesaver traffic" coming up next. don't wait for presidents' day to save on a new mattress. sleep train's presidents' day sale is on now. save up to $500 on beautyrest and posturepedic. get a sealy queen set for just $399. even get 3 years interest-free financing on tempur-pedic. plus, free delivery, set-up, and removal of your old set. keep more presidents in your wallet. sleep train's presidents' day sale is on now. superior service best selection lowest price guaranteed. ♪ sleep train ♪ ♪ your ticket to a better night's sleep ♪ >> hearst a live look at the bay bridge toll plaza. here's a live look. still a mess. some improvement after the early-morning motorcycle accident. it's been blocking three lanes. all lanes have been opened for quite a while. unfortunately the damage is done. westbound 80 slow from cutting to the toll plaza. here's a live look at the nimitz. 880 in oakland, northbound slow and go from the coliseum all the way towards the downtown oakland exit. and a quick check of our maps. northbound 17 at laurel road, accident blocking the right lane. it is still sluggish from sugarloaf. lifeti that's definitely a fair trade. whoo! lk with friends, you meet new friends and you keep those friendships. it was such a beautiful experience. 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"casserole week" roars to a memorable close. it is delicious. the family will gobble it. even oscar winner jeremy irons is taking note. >> i'm so impressed, the way you take things out of the oven they are not burnt. >> rachael: and -- >> fight approximating myself it was so great. >> rachael: going into orbit around the world according to gayle. >> bedroom fun lights on or off? >> lights off. >> what is yours? >> rachael: lights off, i don't even look down in the shower gayle, no! [cheers and applause] >> rachael: hi, guys how are you? welcome, welcome, welcome. i'm very excited to get to our first guest today because he's a first timer to our television show. i'm also excited because it is day five of "casserole week." 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ArkansasUnited-statesAlabamaAustraliaBrooklynNew-yorkDelawareCaliforniaSan-diegoSan-bernardino-countySyriaRussia violence against women. >> with valentine's especially and it's a good gift to go. >> reporter: in some places guns could be a popular present this valentine's day. ♪ good morning and welcome to al jazeera america, i'm stephanie sy, a powerful winter storm hammered the northeast a day after bringing the south to a stand still and people are digging out of the message included another round of snow overnight and the northeast got hit with 20" of snow. the south also reeling from the storm and georgia and the carolinas still in the dark from massive power outages and responsible for deaths up and down the coast and grounded thousands of flights and biggest disruptions are charlotte, atlanta and philadelphia and we are tracking the storm's impact ap we are standing by in greensboro, north carolina but we begin in new york. >> on this valentine's day there is no love for mother nature and more snow fell overnight and into the morning as the region already deals with another powerful storm. after getting hit hard by a storm on thursday a big part of the northeast got another blast of snow overnight and the nation's capitol was a ghost town and airport busy on the runway and not with planes but snowplows and maryland which exhausted the budget for the year is dealing with to feet of snow. >> we were sliding all over the roads and as big as the trucks are and we are sliding and i'm pretty sure they do not have the truck at home. >> reporter: people in new york, new jersey and connecticut have no power which for some means no heat. >> you get over a third of an inch and the danger zone and half an inch or over you should expect widespread outages. >> reporter: pennsylvania is also recovering from widespread power outages and the heavy snow in philadelphia, that city has broken a 130 year record for the most 6" plus storms in one season. >> snow remains a very dangerous storm that we are dealing with in philadelphia. >> reporter: in new york commuters slid through nearly a foot of snow thursday. some relief when the snow stopped in the city but then came the rain turning many streets into a slippery mess. in brook land a pregnant women died after being struck by a snowplow in a grocery store parking lot, her baby delivered alive by an emergency c section. new york governor has a state of emergency for part of the state and neighboring new jersey is under a state of emergency. and as the storm goes up the east coast hundreds of schools which closed across massachusetts where the storm is still dumping heavy snow and some areas could see as much as two feet. >> stay home and don't come out the roads are terrible, stay home. >> reporter: this is the 12th storm to hit the region this winter and what made the latest storm particularly tricky is it kept showing and snow and sleet and freezing rain and then snow but people are exhausted with dealing with the long, cold, snowy winter. >> reporter: jennifer reporting for us in new york city and thank you and let's head south where jonathan martin is standing by in greensboro, north carolina and jonathan that region still in bad shape 24 hours after the storm swept through the area. >> yeah, it really is stephanie and you think about some of the communities got 21" of snow, not as bad in greensboro and where 8-10" fell but the roads are worse today than yesterday and look here because everything that melted last night refroze overnight and now you have a bunch of crunching snow and what you cannot see is black ice and people ready for the temperatures to findly warm up today so they can be on the end of the storm that has been crippling and in some places historic. the latest winter storm finished blowing through the south by thursday afternoon but the impact is still being felt by millions across the region today. here in north carolina plows were out in force cleaning the remaining snow and tow trucks began to remove the abandon cars and still warning residents to stay off the roads. >> mother nature is still right here with very dramatic weather swings and expecting hazardous road conditions. >> reporter: another problem is power outages and people in the south are managing in the dark and without heat. >> trying to get the lights back on. >> reporter: and georgia governor in augusta and tens of thousands are without power and mississippi to virginia it's about digging out and greenville, south carolina the salt is almost gone, the concern there black ice. >> it's going to get bad again. early in the morning it's going to be rough. >> reporter: it's the roads that are treacherous, in some cases deadly, in virginia a record snow fell led to the death of a man working for the department of transportation and killed by a dump truck that struck him as he pulled over and stood on the shoulder by his snowplow. and right now there are 100,000 people in the state of north carolina without power and i can tell you the city really is shut down and we were out yesterday just trying to find a place to eat. we went by 20 restaurants and every one was closed except for one and we had to eat there and most people are staying off the roads. temperatures expected to warm up in north carolina in the mid 40s today so finally some of this snow and ice will start to melt away. stephanie. >> jonathan martin reporting from greensboro, north carolina. erica farari is at new york's laguardia airport and tracking delays and cancellations across the country. good morning, erica. >> reporter: good morning, stephanie, there are few airports along the east coast that have not felt the impacts of yesterday's storm. some 6,500 flights were cancelled yesterday. today that number has gone down significantly to about 1300 flights but there are still massive delays. now here at laguardia airport in new york there is some movement happening and flights are getting off the ground. last i looked at the big board there were about ten cans -- cancellations and delays and flights are taking off and it was a very different story yesterday when there were a lot of unhappy passengers across the country who were stranded. >> horrible and it's valentine's weekend and i came here on a business trip and leaving to go home. >> you have to deal with that. it could be worse. >> i feel frustrated and feel disappointed about what i can do. and the airline company, they just say stay here and wait. >> reporter: and stephanie here is an interesting fact, the large number of storms we have had this year have led to the most flight cancellations in 25 years. now since december 1st of this year alone there have been 75,000 cancelled flights and we still have two weeks left in february and all of march and we will keep our fingers crossed in laguardia airport in new york and back to you. >> thank you so much and we are not done with this storm yet and let's bring in metrologist nicole mitchell to show you where it's lingering and how long. >> for most places it's cleared out and to the digging out stage at this point with another one on its heels and we will have something else to watch but as we look at the radar what we will see is going up the coastline and there was an interesting mix, if you were right along the coast where some places switched over to rain and it made a reverse pattern in the totals in some cases. inferior you were seeing significant amounts of snow. parts of maryland for example we saw over two feet in a couple of spots, pennsylvania inferior and even new york interior, a foot, foot and a half not out of the question and close to the coast lien and the totals, boston is in the 3" range versus dc around a foot because that was more rain in boston. now it continues to move up the coastline. the other thing you need to be concerned with is it's very gusty out there. a lot of winds gusting in the 20s and a couple of places in the 30 miles per hour rarnl so what snow is out there will be blowing around and kind of battering you in the face which is never pleasant. here is where it goes. by this morning it will clear boston, maine probably around midday. there is already another system on the heels though. we are only going to get a brief break today in most cases before the next round comes in tomorrow. the good news is this one has less snow associated with it and as we clear out some watches and warnings in one direction we see them pile up in the midsection of the country south of the great lakes where the snow is coming through this morning and this is the band we are talking about into iowa with areas of snow and 2-4" but we are getting snow weary out there. >> relentless winter and stay with al jazeera for continuing coverage of the severe winter storm. the white house is backing off its request that afghanistan's current president sign a new security deal. the agreement would determine how many u.s. and international troops will remain in the country. the change suggests the u.s. might be ready to wait and see what karzai's successor has to say about the situation and he said he will not sign any new security agreement until after elections are held this april. karzai ruffled more feathers in washington where he ignored and released 65 detainees held at a prison near kabul. the u.n. chief mediator said an impasse is hurting the deal of ending the civil war in syria and he is meeting with the war torn country again today in geneva but says failure is always staring them in the face. top russian and u.s. diplomates are promising to keep the talks alive. the u.n. humanitarian chief is urging immediate action in syria and says the cease fire in homs is not a long-term solution and needs to be a plan to get humanitarian aid to those who need it. hundreds of civilians in homs have escaped the violence in resent days but fighting is ranging in other parts of the country and the human rights say in three weeks since talks began nearly 5,000 people have been killed in syria. there are more reports of executions anvid villages being burned to the ground and they killed men and women in the eastern part of the country and we report that the violence is taking a toll on aid efforts. >> reporter: this food is going to feed hundreds of thousands of people displaced by fighting in southern republic of congo and battling government troops and there is a growing humanitarian crisis and take at least three days for the food to reach the most vulnerable. >> translator: tomorrow situation is volitile and worried and everyday the villages are burning down and running from village to village and makes it hard to know where people are and how many need help. >> reporter: they are concerned about the growing violence and this village, the capitol of the providence was recently attacked allegedly by myanmar rebels and she wants the u.n. to protect her family from more attacks. >> translator: the soldiers said if you hear shooting stay in the house, don't come outside because you will be killed. but we still don't feel safe. as the people ran in the bush. >> reporter: there are not enough soldiers or u.n. troops to patrol the province roughly the side of spain and the fighting displaced more than 400,000 people. this area has been attacked several times and people live in constant fear. this house belongs to the chief. when the fighting started he ran away and has not been seen in a while. but the armed groups say atrocities committed by soldiers and not them and they want a referendum held so the people can choose whether to separate from the democratic republic of congo. the province which is rich in minerals is a source of income for the government and letting it go may not be an option, al jazeera on the province. >> reporter: there are at least 40 armed groups in the drc eastern region and ethnic and competition for control of the area's mineral resources killed millions over the past two decades and lawmakers in belgium approved assisted suicide law for children and the law which is first of the kind in the world allows terminally ill children to be asked to be put to death and the parents must approve and three doctors and a psychiatrist will have to certify the patient is aware of the consequences of their decision. and the king phillip is expected to sign it. in the uk entire neighborhoods are under water and how the flooded areas are getting the last thing they need and getting more rain. plus shining a light on violence against women, it's a global dance party known as one billion rising. forget flowers and jewelry, we will hear from women who want guns for valentine's day. ♪ another round of heavy rain making flooding in england even worse and good morning and welcome to al jazeera i'm stephanie sy and people are trying to cope with that disaster in a minute but these are the temperatures this the country and nicole mitchell is back. >> good morning and as we start out the door the temperatures on the east coast are so critical that interior with colder temperatures and it was snow and close to the coastline with temperatures close to freezing and snow totals varied from place to place because of that. still cold temperatures and that is why in atlanta it's 31 refreeze and it's a very slick morning. in the midwest temperatures briefly warmed but i don't mean they were warm, they were not as cold, another 3 in minneapolis. through the day i mentioned atlanta freezing conditions right now but as we get through the day this is going to be important, 55 degrees that allows us to start melting off some of that ice because at this point we have no other way to get it cleared off and it's very hard to clear off the ice and good news and up the coastline it's mild and the temperatures around 40 degrees, however we had the next weather system come in so you will see some temperatures drop as we get in the next couple days by a few degrees back solidly in the 30s and one part of the country with a warm up la in the 80s and it will be mild. >> the river breached its banks as the uk battles the wettest weather in years and they have been flooded and homes evacuated and the country in southern britain is on high alert and several more storms are coming. the government has promised to help homeowners rebuild and as jennifer glasse reports one community is working to get back only its feet. >> this is st. paul where the community has pulled together to help its own and guided by father rooper originally from chapel hill, north carolina. >> this is food to go out and there is cold and hot food and all sorts of things. >> reporter: the waters spilled on nearly every street here and father michael tours the area daily. how much of the parish is effected? >> two thirds is under water. >> reporter: they visit their homes and move what hasn't been ruined. where are you heading today? >> i will take stuff and put it in a friend's shed and then back to my parents. >> reporter: aid comes from the unexpected kindness of strangers but not everyone is here to help especially after dark. >> and close to the school, there have been definitely some break-ins. >> reporter: the empty water logged homes too big a temptation for some and this is the edge of the parish and they are helping as many people as they can and all they can really do now is wait for the waters to go down. it doesn't look like that will be soon. the ground is soaked and there is more rain to come. the british army has arrived with men and trucks to help support the community through whatever comes next. >> we are providing some power for the civilian effort to relieve some houses in the area. >> reporter: the waters are expected to rise again and a new storm to hit on friday with areas expected to see another inch and a half of rain and every one here including father michael is trying to take it one day at a time. jennifer glasse, al jazeera, england. >> reporter: more than 1100 homes have flooded in the valley since the rains started falling last month. senator chuck shumer is trying discharge petition to allow the immigration bill to bypass the house committee process and it would go directly to the house floor for a vote sidestepping majority opposition. the process has only been successful once passing campaign finance reform in 2002, if the house democrats support the plan he would still need more than a dozen republican signatures. people who signed up for health coverage under affordable care act and 1 in 5 people did not have insurance because they did not pay premiums and 2.1 people were set to start on january 1st and a month to pay up, the last step to completing enrollment and officials say they don't know how many people missed payments because the website to process premiums is not finished. california is considering putting warning labels on soda and sugar drinks and it is sponsored by moonen has support and it would require a warning label on soda and juice drinks with more than 75 calories per 12 ounce and read the safety warning drinking beverages with added sugar contributes to obesity, diabetes and tooth decay. the companies oppose the idea saying it unfairly singles out one type of product for regulation. the winter weather is having an impact on the sports world and john henry smith is here to tell us how it's keeping some college schedule makers pretty busy and good morning. >> the world of nicole mitchell is colliding with mine and the world is winning and ice across the country is forcing schedule changes and various sporting events and forced six division ones to be postpones and louisville smu is moved from thursday to friday and both games played at 6:00 p.m. eastern and football prides in playing the weather and it's still on in north carolina at ferman university, two americans take center stage in sochi and bode miller and ligity are the last people of the skiing event in 2010 and 2006 and both in trouble after finishing 12 and 18 respectfully in the down hill portion of the event this morning, 6:30 a.m. eastern they will try to save themselves in the super combine. metal winner team canada and taking on norway and score in the second period and shane webber has a goal with canada on the board and second period and dallas star jamie and that team canada takes a 2-0 lead in the second period and they trade goals and not good to bring norway back and canada beats them 3-1. in speed skating not much expected of china in sochi but all she has done is give them the first gold metal with one of the dominant performances and .67 seconds is the largest since bonnie blair 20 years ago and heather richardson finished 7th place. america is doing better in the women's skeleton event and picus-pace has 157.43 and good for second place behind great britain and the final two runs will wrap up 10:30 eastern this morning. men's figure skating he took a brutal fall during the program thursday and crashing in the wall before his momentum stopped him but to great applause he picked up and finished his routine without further incident and he will not win the gold but japan may after the first skater that is over 100. to the nba, la lakers played thursday like they really didn't want to set the lakers home record for consecutive and led by 10 in the fourth quarter but that is when durant scored in a 35 point quarter for okc and 107-103 win and that is the look at sports this morning. >> thank you. struggling to survive. >> it was pretty bad. but i've seen worse and it's been much worse. >> reporter: how this long winter is impacting the bottom line for small businesses. plus shining a light on violence against women, a global dance party known as one billion rising. a pink gun would be cool. i would be happy. >> reporter: and a police department encouraging people to give a gun as a valentine's day gift. and taking a live look at the vatican where people francis will be getting in the valentine's spirit and greeting engaged couples going through the catholic marriage preparation courses and it's called the joy of yes forever. ♪ it will carry over into the february/march sales. purchasers put off in january hopefully will be shifted into the later months in the future. >> consumer spending drives 70% of economic active ci. the winter -- activity. the winter storm postponed janet yellen's second day of testimony. the senate banking committee will re schedule. no new date has been set. >> it's enough to make a corvette lover cringe. a disaster at a museum dedicated to the cars. we look at the science behind sink holes. al jazeera america. we open up your world. >> here on america tonight, an opportunity for all of america to be heard. >> our shows explore the issues that shape our lives. >> new questions are raised about the american intervention. >> from unexpected viewpoints to live changing innovations, dollars and cents to powerful storytelling. >> we are at a tipping point in america's history! >> al jazeera america. there's more to it. ♪ welcome back to al jazeera america, i'm stephanie sy and people are digging out from a powerful winter storm and the northeast got covered with almost two feet of snow and the storm has grounded thousands of flights across the country. there are major disruptions at airports in charlotte, atlanta and philadelphia while many people took a snow day for some working through the storm was a priority. america tonight reporter lori glehay explains. >> nobody wants two storms back to back but when mother nature deals you just have to deal as well. >> reporter: john and his dad joe are doing their best to deal with the situation left at their family restaurant outside philadelphia. they are among 150 million people pounded by this latest snowfall. a tough blow as they were just getting back on their feet from the ice storm last week. >> i heard a song, boom, boom. the power outage is no more and then we have a very cold night. >> reporter: not only did the family lose power in their home for a few days their chinese restaurant had to close. >> i remember going with my dad to the restaurant and moving all the food around and refrigerators to plug those in generators so the food didn't go bad so that was stressful. >> and it survived and so did the fish in the tanks for customers who visit. but as they reopened another storm shut their doors a second time. >> and we are totally out, you know, because of all the snow accumulated on the roads and parking lot, you know, we are not able to open for business and we decided to remain closed today because we figured a lot of customers would not be able to make it out of their homes either. >> reporter: in washington d.c. driver warren fudge is faring a little better in the weather with the help of cab fare. >> what is going on, man? >> reporter: he is a fuel truck driver by day who says he needs two job to help him pay the rent. that's why people also hire him through a cell phone app called uber-x and it's an on line service to transport people in his own vehicle like a taxi. >> responsible for insurance, licensing, registration, taxes and everything. and it's not like we work for uber we are a partner with uber so it's just like being self-employed. >> reporter: fudge takes advantage of days like this when the roads are tricky and the construction site where he normally works is closed. his personal suv helps him make end meet. >> you know as far as wintertime construction work we go through periods where we don't work as much as we would in the summertime and there is not much work available and with bills a rent being really high out there, it's just you need two jobs to make it. >> reporter: like any customer we paid for our ride with fudge as he navigated the streets and how he makes the best of such miserable conditions. >> it was pretty bad but i've seen worse and it has been much worse. as far as the plows they have done a good job clearing the streets. >> reporter: we were the 9th customer and wanted to make 200 by the end of the day and said the bad weather is an advantage because most part-time drivers are not willing to drive on the roads. >> today like this is a good day because there is nobody on the road. you know, so it's more demand. everybody wants to go somewhere. i had a couple people that needed to go to work and had no way to get there and they really showed me some appreciation. one guy wanted to try to tip me and we are not supposed to take tips so we didn't take tips and he went and got me a cup of coffee and works at mcdonald's and got me a free cup of coffee so i appreciate that. we are reporting from washington and you can catch america tonight at 9:00 p.m. eastern right here on al jazeera. women in afghanistan are protesting against domestic violence and 100 people marched through the city on kabul and speaking out against a new draft law which will ban people from testifying against relatives and it will limit justice for victims of domestic abuse but it has not been signed by karzai. women in afghanistan are not the only ones drawing attention to violence against women and people are expected to take part in a grass roots campaign called one billion rising for justice and dance rounds the world to raise awareness against women and girls. she is the coordinator for one billion rising for justice and is from ann arbor, michigan and thanks for being with us and happy valentine's day and it's staggering and according to the u.n. and world health organization 1-3 will experience sexual violence in the lifetime globally and 64 million are child brides worldwide and 140 million women and girls have suffered genital mutilation and there are more statistics i could list. what do you hope this movement can achieve? >> well, happy valentine's to you and thank you for having me on your program this morning. i think that the one billion rising campaign has brought the issue of violence against women front and center for discussion all over the world. and has provided this amazing global platform upon which activists and communities can rally around to bring this issue to the forefront to their legislators and to their politicians, to their judiciary, to the police, to all these places where justice ought to be given out but is not carried out in most cases. >> reporter: this is the event's third year, have you already seen some tangible results from this movement? >> actually it's the second year so the inaugural one billion rising was 2013 and was the first one. this is the second one and the first one was really sort of to highlight and to show what one billion people looks like and this year we are really focusing on the justice piece because that is what seems to resonate throughout the whole world where women and girls are concerned is that perpetrators get away with rape and domestic violence and all kinds of violence with impunity. and so this is also focused this year and seen tangible results and more and more women are speaking out against violence. we have seen more women victims come forward and talk about the issues. this has a way of making sure that the perpetrators are brought to book. there are laws that have been changed across the world. gosh, it's just hard to imagine how huge this is but we believe that after this particular year we will see even more resolve. >> reporter: the movement really has spread to many countries. how did the movement become so global and are there places you have not reached that you would really like to? >> well, last year we had 207 countries sign up. and the movement has grown so big because of the passionate work of activists on the ground in their communities. you have to realize that february 14th is actually the combination of lots and lots of advocacy. of collaboration among activists in the communities and we come together on this particular day to actually showcase, if you like, all the work that has been going on prior. >> reporter: is violence against women growing worse in places? and where have the numbers improved? >> reporter: it's hard to say whether it's grown worse because what we are seeing is i think violence against women always existed and probably at the same proportions that we are seeing it's just that i think the media now has been able to sort of bring into focus just how prevalent and how ubiquitous it is for women and in places it's a cultural phenomenon and we are hoping with time we can undo by raising consciousness, by education, and actually the more we continue to keep a focus on violence against women i think the more it will become a zero tolerance issue. >> reporter: i'm curious why you became so personally and passionately involved with the one billion rising movement. >> to be honest i'm a mother of four daughters. i'm a woman. i grew up in zimbobwai and my work is in south africa and i see my sisters and continue to see my sisters go through horendous level of violence and i want a different futures for my daughters and the daughters through the whole world to be honest with you. >> reporter: global coordinator for one billion rising for justice, thank you so much for speaking with us this morning. a federal judge in virginia has struck down the state's ban on same sex marriage and the second state in the south this week to make a decision on the legality of gay marriage and a kentucky judge said the state must recognize gay marriages performed in other states and although the court did not specifically address the ban. currently 17 states allow same sex marriage. and states are increasing the rights of gay couples and people are making moves to restrict them and john reports on one state's fight that is pitting freedom of religion against the freedom of sexuality. >> reporter: in the push for same sex marriage at least one state is resisting and kansas may have a controversial law on the books and some consider blatant discrimination and a new bill beyond the conservative state would give businesses the right to refuse service to gay couples. on wednesday the kansas state house approved the bill, 72-49. it's now headed to the state senate's judiciary committee. the legislation would protect people and businesses from government sanctions if based on their religious beliefs they turn away same sex couples and critics are attacking the bill as homophobia and he says it is hurtful and no place in society and precisely why we are moving the bill and said there have been times throughout history where people have been persecuted for their religious beliefs because they were unpopular. this bill provides a shield of protection for that. >> reporter: that was al jazeera's john and kansas senate president says the bill is unlikely to pass in its current form. breaking news in the world of business, it's official, joseph bank is buying eddy bower for $825 million in cash and stock from private equity owner golden gate capitol and it comes over a take over battle between men's warehouse and joseph bank and we will find out how up beat people are over the economy over disappointing on retail sales and labor market and expect to see a small improvement in early february from january. wall street futures are flat at this hour and the dow starts above the key 16,000 level. s&p is 1829. nasdaq is 4240. in asia markets ending the day higher after inflation data out of china is steady by the nikki fell 1 1/2% and they are posting slight gains. gm is recalling 780,000 cars in america and effects cobalt s and g 5 made between 2005 and 2007, a facility ignition switch can shut off the engines causing crashes and six deaths links to the problem and gm neither makes either car. the black market has been hacked. reports say silk road two's entire bit coin wallet worth $2.7 billion was stolen, silk road two was launched in october after the original site was shut down by the f.b.i. out of gifts for valentine's day, one police department is encouraging men to give guns to ladies in their lives and brandon found out why. >> she shows off her valentine's gift from her husband of 37 years. >> he travels a lot and wanted me to have one for protection. >> reporter: the 9 millimeter and perhaps a different token of love but one endorsed by the police department which recently took to facebook to encourage the gift of safety in the form of a firearm. >> it has over 2000 likes and everything and most of them have been positive remarks. >> reporter: and nearby fire as ashl -- arms in texas and men are leaving with guns to give as gifts. >> and it's a good gift to get. >> reporter: pink and purple are for women customers looking for a new gun but you won't find them in the store with valentine's they are all sold out. thomas here with his girlfriend to fire from a gun they share and then surprised his girlfriend with a firearm of her own. >> no, that did not cross the mind and i don't know how happy she would be about that. >> reporter: he knows now because we asked. >> a pink gun would be cool. i would be happy. that would be cool. >> reporter: tonya waxler certainly likes what she is leaving here with. >> we decided which one i was most comfortable with and purchased it. >> reporter: officers with the pd stress safety first adding a gun should not be in the hands of someone who has not fired on a gun range for. brandon with al jazeera katie, texas. >> reporter: more traditional valentine's gifts with flowers and they will spend $2 billion on flowers for a special someone and in detroit homes have sold as little as $1 and giving three homes to aspiring writers for free. these three houses in detroit may not be much to look at, they are old, abandoned structures, eyesores to many in the diverse community. but when toby barlow and a few friends came across these properties they saw room for growth. >> there are plenty of people taking apart and tearing down homes but not a lot of people restoring homes so we thought it would be a great opportunity. >> reporter: two houses were sold at $1,000 apiece and acquired a third through a donation and the plan is to renovate and give the homes away to three aspiring writers for free and it's called write a house project >> this is a city that needs and deserves writtens if you are a poet or journalist or novel list there is a lot to write about and inspiration. >> reporter: more houses are being torn down in detroit than there are being built. once word got out about this project, the news spread fast, not just locally but worldwide. >> let's get this going. >> reporter: shannon lowell has worked and lived here all of his life. >> and trying to put the soul back in the skeleton of a neighborhood. i think that is a good thing. >> reporter: as you can see there is still a lot of work to be done. it will cost between $25-$50,000 to renovate each house and once the work is complete, the selected writers can move in. the only cost to them will be to pay property taxes and insurance. barlow believes that it's a concept that could literally hit home. >> and our hope is that it inspires people to do something differ here, we are focused on writers but there is no reason why you couldn't use this model and bring teachers or say to a fire department or the police how would you like a house. >> reporter: after money is raised for the project a nonprofit that teaches the youth carpentry will begin work and they will welcome applications in the spring with hopes of making a difference in detroit, one house at a time. i'm with al jazeera, detroit. >> reporter: detroit's population has lost more than 1 million residents since the 1950s. it's a place where you can create just about anything. the space that is giving innovators the tools they need to bring their ideas to life and the city where thousands of people may have been exposed to measles on the transit system. >> and the south and east clearing out from one big weather system and we have another one we are starting to watch and i will have the weekend forecast. >> have a look at this, taiwan a very festive end to the lunar new year celebration and how the spring festival is wrapping up, some pictures of fireworks in taiwan. ♪ welcome back to al jazeera and a place that makes dreams a reality and this is where the snow and rain may fall across the country and nicole mitchell is back. >> we have both of those things going on a the big weather system to hit the south and east coast is clearing off and we are monitoring behind that, one area of snow in the midwest and look at the very active pattern we had in the pacific northwest recently and i will start on this direction because this is some heavy rain right along the oregon and california border and the whole area is under dry conditions all the way north to south on the west coast so it's needed moisture. we had enough of this recently that it will start to den the ground a little and that is great but so much snow for the higher elevations and start to see that again and rain for the lower elevations and a little warmer with the last round that it melted some of the recent snow that we have a lot more concerns in terms of some of the creeks and rivers flooding around the areas and the areas in green you see most are flood watches and higher elevations is just the driving is difficult with the new snow coming in. speaking of new snow coming in we have a little disturbance that moves across the northern tier and great lakes but this area is developing. what we see moving into iowa in the last frames and that is what will continue to move across the country hitting the east coast by the time we get to late tonight and tomorrow. already a number of watches just south of the great lakes have started to come up for the winter storm conditions. in the core of this it looks like 2-4" but as we just clear out one item in the northeast and you don't want to hear there is snow in the forecast tomorrow even if it's lesser amounts. >> make i end. the island of java in indoe k de -- indonesia and it has been spewing ash and two killed when the home collapsed and the military called in to evacuate 100,000 people and airports at three airports have been can't sled because of the ash and it ur ruptured a few years ago and killed 30. in san francisco may have been exposes to a man with the measles and the student road on the bart transit system and believe he contracted the highly contagious disease traveling in aisa and riding the rails from february 4-7 could have been exposed and more than 400,000 people ride the bart each week and most people who are vaccinated are immune to the measles but the problem is with unvaccinated people or kids who may be vulnerable. russell simons is known for culture and he is an advocate for ending the war on drugs and he spoke about it this week on talk to al jazeera. >> the war on drugs has done more to destroy the fabric of the black community than anything we can think of. not the effects of jim crow and the effects of slavery, it's the war on drugs have taken innocent, diseased people, locked them up, educate them in criminal behavior and dumped them back in the hood with no hope. >> reporter: and you can see some of that and the entire conversation with russell simmons this sunday at 7:00 p.m. eastern on talk to al jazeera. in seattle there is an unusual cafe where you can get expresso with high-tech manufacturing and gives customers the tools to make anything they can imagine. >> it's a place where anyone can walk in and make anything with just about anything. from sewing and knitting machines to laser cutters and 3d printers. >> we have parts, supplies, snacks, free internet, coffee. >> reporter: metrics creates space is a place to meet, mingle and make. it strung out of matt's idea of what he calls the tool curve. >> at the bottom of the curve is hammers and nails and things everybody has. >> reporter: the curve goes up to the super modern high end presses, printers and cutters. >> these tools are things you would not find in your house and now we have some things that are not found in the university lab. >> reporter: like the proto laser that just came in. it can shave weeks off an electronic project by hunting circuit boards. >> metrics is open every day of the week noon to midnight and as with most workplaces there is a vending machine in the corner and not just for snacks but you can get cookies if you want them but do you need a circuit board or a tvro -- romote or any kit, it's all here. and he designed incubators and microscopes during the day but at night he has a chance to get out and play. >> there is a lot of like minded geeks like me that come down here and spend time. >> reporter: they helped spur his idea for a make it yourself 3d printer and raised $120,000 on the online fundraising tool kick starter. >> and if a parent can assemble a kids bike can probably put it together with a child helping in about a weekend and start printing. >> reporter: once you have it assembled row can print the parts to make more 3d printers and it was the cool tools that got tam in the door here it's the creative people that keep him coming back. >> when you put these things together in a room in a place like this, that is when the magic really happens. >> reporter: for matt the hardest part might be figuring out what the next big thing will be so he can build it or help others build it. >> reporter: that was allen reporting. the metric create space allows walk ins but price to use the equipment are less expensive if you become a member and they have uncovered an ancient mummy over 3,000 years old and dates back to 1600 bc and found in a wooden sarkoglifs and decorated with feathers and they will study it to learn more about the identity of the mummy. ralph waite has died and the father of the wall tens in the 70s and set in the great depression and acted in the cbs crime drama and cis as seen in the photo, his manager did not reveal the cause of his death and ralph was 85. and walters joins us with a look at the stories we are following for the next hour and good morning. >> parts of the northeast dealing with 20" of snow from the same storm system that caused the massive power outages across the south. in britain entire communities along the tems are under water because of serious flooding and bracing for two more storms expected over the weekend in that region. a federal judge in virginia striking down the ban on same sex marriage. also ahead why things are boiling in the balkins and how extreme unemployment now leading to violence in bosnia. syria, egypt and iran and ukraine and the games and we will talk about how putin is making his mark on the world stage. >> reporter: and i'm metrologist nicole mitchell and as one storm moves out another on the way for parts of the east coast and i'll have the forecast. >> reporter: and al jazeera continues in two minutes with dale walters and libby casey and i'm leaving you this hour with more of the end of the lunar celebrations taking place in taiwan. ♪ >> al jazeera america is a straight-forward news channel. >> its the most exciting thing to happen to american journalism in decades. >> we believe in digging deep. >> its unbiased, fact-based, in-depth journalism. >> you give them the facts, dispense with the fluff and get straight to the point. >> i'm on the ground every day finding stories that matter to you. >> in new orleans... >> seattle bureau... >> washington... >> detroit... >> chicago... >> nashville... >> los angeles... >> san francisco... >> al jazeera america, take a new look at news. >> digging out from a second round of snow, some areas of the northeast dealing with up to 20 inches, that same storm system that knocked out power across the south. >> the philippines working to recover following the typhoon, the strides the country made and challenges that lie ahead 100 days after the storm. >> social and political unrest in bosnia not seen since the end of that civil war 20 years ago. >> there are plenty of people taking apart homes but not storing homes. >> making homes a symbol for detroit's recovery. one group's plan to turn the motor city around. >> good morning, welcome to aljazeera america. i'm del walters. >> i'm libby casey. >> millions in the northeast are waking up to slashy winter mornings. snow hammered the area, some areas hit with 20 inches of snow yesterday. it didn't end after daylight. another round of rain and snow swooped in overnight. >> the southeast blamed for 21 deaths nationwide and thousands in georgia and carolina still in the dark after trees snapped power lines, leading to massive power out. >>ages. >> we have our team of reporters tracking the storm's impact but begin in new york. jennifer, good morning. people are waking up to another rough commute today. >> indeed they are. good morning to you, libby, as the city wakes up and people start making their way to school or work, there is certainly on this valentine's day no love from mother nature. >> after getting hit hard by a winter storm thursday, a big part of the northeast got another blast of snow overnight. the nation's capitol was a ghost town but its airport busy on the runway, not with planes but snowplows. maryland which has nearly exhausted its winter budget for the year is dealing with two feet of snow. >> we slide all over the road. as big as these trucks are we're sliding. i'm pretty sure no one has this type of truck at home. >> new jersey and connecticut have some with no power, meaning no heat. >> you get in the danger zone, you get up to half an inch or over, you should expect widespread outages. >> pennsylvania is always recovering from widespread power outages with heavy snow in philadelphia. that city has broken a 130 year record for the most six-inch plus storms in one season. >> snow remains a very dangerous storm that we are dealing with here in philadelphia. >> in new york, commuters slid through nearly a foot of snow thursday. some relief when the snow stopped in the city but then came the rain, turning many streets into a slippery mess. in brooklyn a pregnant woman died after struck by a snowplow in a grocery store parking lot, her baby delivered alive by an emergency c-section. new york's governor declared a state of emergency for part of the state while knowledge is also under a state of emergency. as the storm snaked up the east coast, hundreds of schools were closed across the state of massachusetts, where the storm is still dumping heavy snow. some areas could see as much as two feet. >> stay home. don't come out, no, the roads are terrible. stay home. >> even though the storm is expected to taper off tonight, in fact, we haven't seen snow for a number of hours. the concern, libby is that enough snow will melt as the temperatures warm up, creating dangerous black ice and that will impact the evening commute. >> jennifer london, thank you so much right here in new york city. >> our coverage continue witness jonathan martin in greensburg, that ragen is still reeling 24 hours after that storm moved through. >> people here are certainly not used to this kind of snow. 21 inches fell in north carolina here and in greens borough, a little left, 10 to 12 inches or so. the roads are worse than yesterday because all the snow that started to melt last night quickly refroze overnight. we are standing in a road here, not many people are coming by. a lot of people waiting for later this afternoon, because the temperatures are expected to go up about 45 degrees, finally they hope putting an end to the snowstorm that has been crippling and in many cases historic. >> the latest winter storm finished blowing through the south early thursday afternoon, but the impact still felt by millions across the region today. here in north carolina, plows were out enforce cleaning the remaining snow, while tow trucks began removing abandoned cars. that state's governor still warning residents to stay off the roads. >> mother nature is still right here with very dramatic weather swings. we're still expecting hazardous road conditions. >> another big problem, massive power outages, forcing many across the south to manage in the dark and without heat. >> we're run ragged trying to get the lights back on. >> georgia governor saw first hand the havoc caused in augusta. tens of thousands in his state are still without power. from mississippi to virginia, it's about digging out. in greensburg, south carolina, the salt's almost gone, the concern, black ice. >> early in the morning, it's going to get rough. >> the roads have proved treacherous and deadly. in virginia, a man died working for the department of transportation, killed by a dump truck as he stood on the shoulder behind his snowplow. the big concern that in story, black ice everywhere on the roads, that's why schools are closed, businesses closed. in fact, we had trouble even finding a place to eat yesterday, because pretty much every business here in greens borough is shut down here today. about 100,000 people still without power, but again, everyone waiting around 1:00, 2:00 today when temperatures are expected to finally go above freezing. >> jonathan, thank you very much this morning. >> we are at laguardia airport tracking the delays across the country. erika. >> good morning, libby. yeah, there are few airports across the country that were not affected by yesterday said storm. some 6,500 flights were canceled yesterday. now today, that number is down significantly. last we checked, it was just under 1400 flights. now here at laguardia airport in new york, there is movement happening. last i checked, there were about 10 canceled flights and a few delays but for the most part, flights were getting off the ground. >> how have things been in the airport this morning so far? >> fine, except for this very long line. yeah. so, but i mean, it's usually moving along. you kind of take the understanding that they have a lot to deal with, so just sort of be patient and wait. >> considering we still have two whole weeks left in february and all of march to get through, travelers will likely have to hold on to that patience. here's an interesting fact. the snow and ice storms this winter have led to the most flight cancellations in 25 years. >> live in laguardia airport in new york, thanks so much. >> it's not over yet. let's check in with nicole mitchell to find out about where the storm is now and what's on tap. >> it's moving out, so that's going to give us a little bit of a break, but there's already another weather system behind this, so winter hasn't ended yet. as we move across the country today, you can see the system behind it now into the central plains and we'll watch that. here's a system we've been monitoring. this has a long history through the south, as well. as we moved across the country, ashville, north carolina, the day before with the snow coming down was seven-inches, over seven-inches, a record. philadelphia, washington, d.c., farther to the south almost had a foot of snow. some parts of town actually did. as you got farther to the north, boston, three inches of snow. with the pattern, some of the coastal cities were seeing a little more rain mix in and then as you got interior, that really changed things. just to tell you how to put this in per perspective, parts of maryland were at over two feet. this will continue to move out through the day today, all right boston, for example, which has seen a little more snow right now will probably within the next couple hours get out of this and parts of maine mid-day, probably what we're looking at. in the meantime, winds gusting in the 20-30-mile per hour range, that is still really blowing the snow we had out there. as this system exits, the one i pointed out in the midwest right now already by tonight could bring new snow to the coastline. we'll have more on that coming up. back to you. >> nicole mitchell, thank you. >> stay with aljazeera america for continuing coverage of the storm and its aftermath. >> the u.n.'s chief made 80 other saying a political impasse is hampering a deal for syria. they will be meeting again in geneva today, failure staring them in the face. top diplomats are promising to keep those talks alive and russia's foreign minister was critical. >> those backing the opposition wanted to make regime change. everything they want to talking is the creation of a transitioning governing body. >> in the three weeks since talks began, 500 people have been killed in syria. >> at least a dozen bodies were found in a grave in a muslim rebel camp, violence now at the level of ethnic cleansing. it's unclear who committed the killings but christian militia's are increasing retaliatory attacks. nearly one quarter of the country has fled their homes. >> secretary of state john kerry asking china for help in dealing with north korea. he wants beijing to bring the north to the table to talk about nuclear disarmament. he's asking the chinese president to roll back on what is called aggressive steps in territorial disputes with smaller anybody's. south korea has agreed to proceed with reunions for families separated by the korean war. the meetings were threatened to be haled because of the south's hill military exercises with the u.s. >> it's been 100 days since the typhoon in the pill teens. three months later, millions of people are still displaced. aljazeera returned to tacloban to see how people are recovering and rebuilding their lives. >> the streets are bustling again, but life is anything but back to normal. electricity and running water have been restored to most place, but after the typhoon, much of the devastation remains. dead bodies are still being found in the debris and survivors remain haunted by the memories. 66-year-old fisherman lost his home and five members of his family. >> i thought humanity would be wiped up. every was water, defense dark and wind and waves howling. i left it in god's hands. >> what's left of his family have been surviving on donations. like others in this community, he also lost his boat in the storm, his only means to earn a living. >> to prevent a similar kilowatts free, the local government has banned anyone from living 40-meters from the shoreline. many people here have nowhere else to go and rebuilt their shelters exactly where they used to be, just meters from the water's edge. >> the local government has built temporary bunk house to say accommodate the displaced, but there aren't enough for those in need. housing is just one of many challenges facing these communities. >> the infrastructure was ruined, people trying to get back into their livelihoods, especially the vulnerable and poorer people in society, it's difficult for them to get them on the first rung of that ladder. >> more than 650 million u.s. dollars in aid have come in, but solutions for long term rehabilitation aren't implemented fast enough for many. >> they keep calling me things, but no help has come. what about our livelihood. what do we do when the relief runs out. >> these children aren't as worried about the future. they take each day as it comes and unafraid can still build their sand castles on the shore. aljazeera, tacloban. >> the fill teens president said rebuilding will cost more than $8 billion. sunday marks the 100th day since that disaster. >> yet another victory for same sex couples, virginia saying it view lathes equal protection statutes in the law. this is the second state making a decision on the legality. kentucky said gay marriages must recognize marriages performed in other states. 17 states now allow same-sex marriage. >> two republican senators are looking to protect the states that don't recognize same-sex marriage. texas senator ted cruz and mike lee of utah are introducing a bill called state marriage defense act, similar total defense of marriage act which the supreme court overturned last year. political analysts say the bill has little chance of making it to the democratic controlled senate floor. >> senator chuck schumer trying to revive immigration reform with with a discharge petition, allowing the immigration bill to by pass the house committee process. the measure would go directly to the floor for a vote, side stepping the republican majority in the house. the process has been successful once, passing campaign finance reform in 2002. even if all the house democrats support the plan, he needs a dozen republicans, as well. >> one in five people didn't have insurance last month because they didn't pay their premiums on time. 2.1 million people were set to start coverage and given up to a month to pay up. it's the last step to completing enrollment. obama officials don't know exactly how many people missed the payments, because the website to process premiums isn't finished yet. >> the dallas morning news saying wendy davis, they are spending big on president obama's 2012 reelection team, $1.5 million is how much she spent. >> that shows she is serious something the governorship and democrats serious for seeing in roads there. >> did the same thing in virginia. >> they are looking at 2016 in texas and verge. >> aren't we in 2014 right now? >> the way politics works, you're always looking forward. >> president jacob zuma gave his state of the nation address thursday, but the cape times say his speech lacked substance. the president told parliament to wait until after upcoming elections for concrete plans. those elections aren't until may. >> one of the leaders in south africa gave a zero on a scale of one to 10 on the process uma has made. it's tough to be the one with nelson mandela's shadow. >> with the presidential election looming, he only opens himself to more criticism trying to make concrete plans. >> u.s.a. today says the president will have meetings today, but with the snow in washington, d.c., they could be playing golf. >> researchers making a break through in the hunt for new energy sources. how this development could result in new power supplies with very little waste. >> $2.2 billion, that is our big number of the day. it is a huge investment in alternative energy. first of its kind and also could be the last. ♪ what is this place? where are we? this is where we bring together the fastest internet and the best in entertainment. we call it the x1 entertainment operating system. it looks like the future! we must have encountered a temporal vortex. further analytics are necessary. beam us up. ♪ that's my phone. hey. [ female announcer ] the x1 entertainment operating system, only from xfinity. tv and internet together like never before. >> now to today's big number, $2.2 billion. that is the cost of that giant solar project opening in the california desert. there is a problem, the heat, the intense heat killing birds near the plant. >> officials found dozens of dead birds during testing in december. they include falcons, night hawks and sparrows. the panels reach temperature of 1,000 degrees fahrenheit and regulators say this is the first and likely last time they'll approve such a project. >> welcome back to aljazeera america. others are making major strides producing what many believe to be the ultimate source of clean energy. >> first, the temperatures across the nation. nicole mitchell is here with more. >> nothing close to 1,000 degrees. as we get out, we have temperatures still below zero through a lot of the south. we warmed up a little during the day. that melted and then we had some areas of refreezing overnight especially bridges and overpasses, that always tends to happen more quickly so watch for slick spots with temperatures like 30 degrees right now in birmingham. up the coastline, temperatures around freezing made interior places below freezing snow and coastline got more rain. the snow totals have been all over the place from this last system. temperatures milder today, atlanta 55 will get more of that ice melted off. >> back to that thousand degree problem. while some researchers in california are having problems, other states making break through is developing into sources of energy. their work could lead to an endless supply of energy without waste. >> scientists say it's a major step toward the holy grail of clean energy, nuclear fusion. in a laboratory experiment reported in the journal nature, science activities at california's lawrence live moor lab produced more energy out of fusion than was contained in the fuel used to create the reaction. unlike nuclear physician, used in atomic weapons and nuclear power plants, fusion produces energy forcing atomic particles together. fusion is the power that fuels the sun and stars. it does not create any explosion, leaves behind no radioactive waste and produces no greenhouse gases linked to global warming. fusion's few he will source is hydrogen, the most plentiful element in the universe. the experiment deploys 192 powerful lasers that focus enormous amounts of energy in billion of a second long pulses. scientists did not reach the break through point called ignition, a sustained fusion reaction that produces more energy than used in the entire pros. researchers say they have a long way to go before they reach that goal. rob reynolds, aljazeera los angeles. >> it could be used to make new weapon systems. >> joseph a. bank is buying eddie bauer for $825 million from cash and stocks. news of a deal comes amid a takeover battle. shares are down more than 1% before the market opens. >> we'll find out how upbeat consumers feel about the economy after disappointing data on retail sales and the labor market. economists expect a small improvement innocentment in early february from january. >> wall street set to open higher, dow futures up. in asia, market ending higher after inflation data out of china remained steady. european markets are posting gains after encouraging data on economic growth. >> general motors recalling 780,000 cars in north america. they will recall the cobalts and pontiac g5's made between 2005 and 2007. a faulty ignition switch can shut off the engine causing crashes. there have been six deaths linked to the problem. g.m. no longer makes either car. >> cluster headaches can be more severe than migraines. nicknamed suicide headaches, they come with intense attacks and have been known to drive people to extreme measures. those who experience them say the government should do more to help. >> describing the pain of a cluster headache is one thing, showing it is quite another as many patients have done recording their own experience. >> i'm about an hour into my attack and it's getting worse. >> the waves of pain spread from the major facial nerve but seem to be activated by the brain's area that regulates the sleep and wake cycles. >> these parts of the brain are acting in concert to create these short but incredibly intensive severe storms of pain for cluster headache patients. >> they can last one to three hours at a time coming in daily attacks or in cycles lasting months. >> after four months of this, your suicide looks like a pretty good option. it's not that you want to kill yourself, you want to get rid of the pain. >> it's a disorder that can make normal daily activity nearly impossible. >> i just keep myself isolated because i can't be around people. i need to be in my dark room in bed or just in a dark room period, because that's the only place i can feel ok, and basically it's waiting out the pain. >> once a year, sufferers come to washington, d.c. to appeal for help, which has been lacking. >> breathing pure oxygen has been shown to shorten the attacks, but the government's medical insurance plans won't cover it and the newly institute the of health have sponsored only one small research study. >> substances can treat cluster headache... >> when l.s.d. was first discovered, he was looking for migraine and cluster treatments. that was in the mix at that point and then got shelved for 40 years. >> as restricted substances like marv become a mainstream treatment for some illnesses, those suffering cluster headaches want the law to give the same kind of special attention to their pain. >> cluster headaches affect approximately one in every 1,000 people. >> it's incredible the pain that they go through. >> the pictures are so vivid there, that's why they're trying to get congress to pay attention. >> vladimir putin throwing his weight behind egypt's military ruler for president. what that could mean. >> years after the bosnian war, citizens take to the streets in anger over the countries economic system. >> our hope is that it inspires people to do something different here. >> we'll tell you about the plan one group has to rebuild detroit, especially abandoned neighborhoods as opposed to tearing them down. >> america is climbing in the medal rankings. we'll look back as a productive thursday for team u.s.a. in sochi. al jazeera america. we understand that every news story begins and ends with people. >> the efforts are focused on rescuing stranded residents. >> we pursue that story beyond the headline, pass the spokesperson, to the streets. >> thousands of riot police deployed across the capital. >> we put all of our global resources behind every story. >> it is a scene of utter devastation. >> and follow it no matter where it leads - all the way to you. al jazeera america, take a new look at news. there's more to finical news than the ups and downs of the dow. for instance, could striking workers in greece delay your retirement? i'm here to make the connections to your money real. >> good morning. anti-government protests spreading across bosnia bringing to light social problems not seen in 20 years. >> one group is helping turn detroit's staggering problems of abandoning homes around and they're looking to artists to help. >> the israeli government is slamming european union officials comments, sharply critical of expanding israeli settlements. a european parliament member saying israelis receive four finals more water than palestinians. those comments are prompting protest. >> on the outskirts of jerusalem, thousands of israelis declare this land is theirs. this is the israeli right wing, they are settlers demanding their government build on territory that would be the heart of a future palestinian state. he is pressuring leadership to expand settlements on palestinian land. >> these people would clearly say all of the land of israeli belongs to the people of israel. >> 3,000-acres, critics say it's so large -- >> it is simply not willing to provide -- >> so far, israeli's only built this highway and police station. the u.s. has strongly pressured the government not to build more, but today, the housing minister said he won't listen to the u.s. >> we will remain here and we will build here, he says, as part of greater jerusalem. >> this isn't only about land. it's also about politics and sending a message to the united states. these people feel that in the current peace negotiations, the u.s. has abandoned them. >> at home, before the rally, he takes out his bible. >> this land that you see, i will give it to you and to your children and those children after you forever. >> he feels god gave israelis this land. he moved here from new york as a teenager, shows me his house that according to international law israel has taken illegally. he argues that the u.s. is trying to force israel to give up land in peace talks. he said a u.s. document outlining steps to peace will be refused. >> the government includes a majority of right wing parliament members who are unwilling to just say here's a piece of paper, let's give up our lives and aspirations for a piece of paper. it's not going to happen. >> today's demonstration was one of the largest right wing rallies in years. they hope the more they protest, the less likely the government will give up land for make peace. aljazeera, occupied west bank. >> current talks are based on a two state solution, calling on the palestinian state to be established alongside israeli. >> the u.n.'s chief mediator says a political impasse is hurting a chance of a deal with syria. they will meet again in geneva today. he said failure is staring them in the face. top russian and u.s. dip mow mats promise to help keep talks alive. russian's foreign minister was critical of those favoring a syrian opposition. >> >> we have an impression that those backing the opposition wanted to make the entire communique a subject of the talks for regime change. everything they want to talk about is the creation of a transitional govern body. >> the human observe atory for human rights said nearly 5,000 people have been killed in syria since talks began. >> vladimir putin met with germaegyptian army leader, sisi. an expert on european security at the and corporation joins us from washington, d.c. to talk about russias image and role on the international stage p.m. thanks for joining us. i want to read to you something mr. putin said. he said i know that you, defense minister have decided to run for president of egypt that i wish you luck personally and from the are you sure people. who is this geared towards? >> egypt and the rest of the world. putin is making clear that he intends to play a role in the middle east, and is backing sisi for president. >> how does the u.s. take what he says? is there an international audience intended, as well? >> to some extent an international audience, but i don't think the united states will be particularly bothered by the fact or surprised, i should say by the fact that russia now is backing egypt. they've had a long relationship with egypt stretching back to the 1950's, and egypt needs economic assistance and military assistance, and russia is trying to get back into the middle eastern game, so it's not much of a surprise. >> we've got some finger pointing, russia criticizing the u.s. for what it calls delivering in international affairs and the audio tape of the u.s. diplomat knocking the european union with a four letter word, what is putin trying to position himself as? where is he putting hips right now? >> right now, i think his most important concern is the olympics, and therefore i don't think, wouldn't expect a dramatic move by russia in terms of ukraine until after the olympics are over, because this would have a rather poor impact on russia's image, but once it's over, i think he's likely to play much more assertive and active role in trying to woo ukraine back towards russia. >> so we have a late gallup poll that just came out. i want to go over these numbers for you. 63% of americans find putin unfavorable. 60% down on russia. >> russia is not supposed to be an ally, it's a partner or supposed to abpartner, but that has never meant that there wouldn't be differences between russia and the united states, and this is just one more example of the fact that the partnership is very limited in its scope. >> give us a sense of how syria factors in to the relationships here. the security council is debate ago measure on aid for that country, differs from one sponsored by russia. do you think putin would risk looking like he's not supporting humanitarian aid especially trying to burn issue his image with the olympics? >> i think he would, because not too many people are paying attention to syria. he's played his what i would say is a weak hand or rather skillfully, and he's obviously as with egypt, wants to get russia back into the middle eastern game as a regional, sees russia as a regional power. >> i want to hear more from you about how significant that president in the in the middle east is, how much russia needs a foot hold there, influence in order to be able to feel it's a world power. >> psychologically, it is important. i wouldn't over-dramatize the role russia's playing, but the fact that it's been active in syria and now more so in egypt, again is a reflection of the fact that putin wants to see russia back on the international stage and considers it russia to be an important regional power. >> thanks so much. steven laraby from the and corporation joining us this morning from d.c. >> several al-qaeda inmates are free after away attack on a yemen prison, officers and gunman killed. a car bomb exploded at the prison gate, no one claimed responsibility for the attack. yemen is dealing with a threat from one of al-qaeda's most active wings. >> pakistan is honoring its police officers killed in an apparent suicide bombing attack, 11 officers died when their bus was targeted leaving a training police center thursday. the attack in the city is one of the bloodiest in recent months. no one's claimed responsibility for the killings. >> officials from the european union expect it to arrive in sarajevo next week to solve problems in bosnia, rocked by a week of protest at a level not seen in decades. laid off workers and angry youth took to the streets and rioted, following the collapse of four privately owned companies. officials were forced to deal with the riots and some said time to take the issue seriously. >> what happened there is a wake up call to the european union and international community. we need to focus more effort on helping bosnia towards the european union towards nato membership. >> we are joined now by tanya, part of the negotiating team that put together the peace accords decades ago. the country remains deeply difficulted. what do you say to people who say here we go again? >> i worked on the implementation of the accords, i didn't negotiate them. this isn't about what happened during the war. this is about economic injustice, a huge economic gap between the political elites and the people. we're talking nearly 40% unemployment among the general population, among the youth over 60% unemployment. we're talking about politicians that have the liest salaries in the region. >> you maintain this is an economic problem and that the european union and the west needs to look at what's going on there now, because it could get worse? >> it is an economic problem, also a political structure problem, because the accords negotiated at dayton stopped a terrible war, but it was not a document that basically set forward a likely democratic outcome. >> i want to show our audience exactly what you mean by this being a come about hersome political state. one state, five presidents, the federation has been called cantons, or regions, 127 registered political parties. in washington two can't get along, is that the biggest part of the problem use that? >> it certainly is a structural problem, there's no question about it. it's a burdensome system, set up at dayton to stop a war. it does not yield to proper democratic governance, so what the problem is with that system is that the high representatives in e.u. charged with implementing those accords and keeping the political elites accountable. they've failed to do so for over a decade, and that's part of the problem, because they supported these politicians that have not carried out their duties. >> are we also not looking at a case of the well running dry? when europe was doing well, the economy in both europe and the united states and russia were doing well, they say there was a trickle down effect, but in the case of that area, the balkans, the money is tight, no aid to give out anymore. >> a couple things about the economic situation. one is 20% of the g.d.p. come from remittances from people from abroad. people left that country and migrated to over 80 countries around the world. that is what keeps that economy afloat, the problem is that the e.u. and including the united states really has not forced the political class to carry out its responsibilities, and part that have is corruption. when we look at the privatization issue -- >> corruption has been rampant for decades. >> corruption is part of the problem. when you look at the privatization process and the corruption of that process, that's ultimately what kicked off the initial riots in tusla, considered the most multi-ethnic, harmonious part of the country, that is indeed a wake up call. >> 45% unemployment, 62% for youth. what do you do to fix that? >> first of all, you listen to them, and they are now holding citizen plenums around the country. >> do you think, what about e.u. membership? is that a solution? >> it is, because that is part of its process to join the e.u. they have to adopt certain reforms including a decision by the court of human rights that said bosnia has discriminated against people who are not croat cannot run for office at the highest levels. >> thank you for joining us this morning. >> thank you very much for having me. >> 18 members of congress have signed a letter to president obama asking him to drop marijuana from a list of illegal drugs the federal government claims have no medical value. the letter was written by oregon congressman and signed by 16 other house democrats, along with california republican daniel orbacker. they want him to take it off the schedule one list. removing from schedule one would make the plant available to researchers and allow those to sell it in states where it's legal to claim federal tax deductions. >> rhode island is making moves to be the third state to legalize recreational marijuana, treating we'd similar to alcohol. adults would be able to grow their own marijuana plants. colorado and washington state realized recreational use of pot and 20 our states allow it for medicinal purposes. >> turning to sports, the american striking it big in slopestyle events in the winter games, but a rough day for two top men in figure skating. we turn to john henry smith with a look at all the action from sochi. >> at the'm u.s.a., they got greedy for medals in men's skiing. the results were impressive. >> make it a triple crown for u.s., leading the slopestyle skiers on a medal roll. ten full spins within 15 seconds while he skiid over the ramp backwards. he took gold. teammate grabbed a silver, a third bronze. christensen got the hero treatment. >> now that we're the first slopestyle medalists is even bigger and that we swept, can't believe it. it's perfect. >> i think today was one of the most in sane competitions that we've ever had. >> more awesomeness from the u.s. men's hockey team. in a smashinging debut, they won 7-1, scoring six goals in the second period in less than 14 minutes, setting up a showdown with russia saturday. >> we're going to play a russian team at home, their home country cheering them on. the skill level on that team is probably the highest in this tournament, so we're going to have to work our butts off, do the little things and play our blue collar hockey in order oh to win that game. >> it was a sad last hurrah for one of the titans of figure skating, limping off the ice for the final time after falling during warmups thursday. he had injured himself in practice wednesday. he was the first figure skater in the modern era to win medals in four different olympics. american skater jeremy abbot was able to go on after a bad fall, smashing into the rink wall attempting a quadruple toe loop. he lay on the ice for sometime, but got up and completed his program. >> here's your medal count, norway leading with 13. the nexter land and u.s. tied with 12, russia has 11, germany 10 total medals, seven gold. that's tops in sochi so far. right now, sweden and switzerland underway in men's ice hockey, later today, qualifications for women's aerials in freestyle skiing. >> i can't get over people skiing backwards and then doing tricks. >> hard enough time i ever going forwards. >> the women are just as amazing at this skiing. it's incredible. >> thank you very much. >> detroit has come up with an artful solution to deal with the surplus of abandoned homes. why a pen and your imagination may be the key to say unlock the doors to a new home. >> lawmakers in one state taking a new approach discouraging people from drinking sugary beverages. why the next soda may come with a warning label. >> you are looking live right now at hartford connecticut among other things, the home of libby casey's father, a snowy commute there. detroit trying to turn art into a promising future. >> where the snow and rain are falling today, so many struggling with their commute. >> we've had the big system moving through the south and up the east coast causing problems in places in the south, the weather long gone. the east, pores of new england, but still problems behind that. the next two systems, one in the midwest in the later frame in the parts of iowa with snow this morning and then the northwest, it's like the spigot has been turned on recently. we've had system after system, the moisture needed, but so much rain and snow recently that it's actually and with some warmer air, all of this especially in our coastal rivers and streams, there's been a little flooding concern. you can see a lot of those areas on green, otherwise pinks and purposes, we've had storm concerns. the next one coming will make its way to the east coast already tonight. back to you guys. >> nicole, thank you very much. california thinking about putting warning labels on soda an sugary drinks with 1475-calories per 12-ounces. the proposed label would read like this, state of california safety warning, drinking beverages with added sugar leads to diabetes and tooth decay. beverage companies say it singles out one type of product, opposing the idea. >> homes in detroit have sold for a dollar, and one non-profit is giving away three homes to aspiring writers for free. >> these three houses in detroit may not be much to look at, they are old, abandoned structures, eyesore to say many in this diverse community, but when toby barlow and friends came across these properties, they saw room for growth. >> there are plenty of people take ago part homes and tearing down homes but not a lot of people restoring homes. >> two of the houses were sold to them at $1,000 apiece. they acquired a third through a donation. the plan is to renovate and then give the homes away to three aspiring writers for free. it's called the write a house project. >> this is a city that i think needs and deserves writers, whether you're a poet, writing essays, whether you're a journalist, a novelist, there's a lot of inspiration here. >> more houses are being torn down in detroit than there are being built. once word got out about this project, the news spread fast, not just locally, but worldwide. shannon has worked and lived here all of his life. >> it is trying to put the soul back into the skeleton of a neighborhood. i think that's a good thing. >> as you can see, there's still a lot of work to be done. it will cost between 25 and $50,000 to renovate each house. once the work is complete, the selected writers can move in. the only cost to them will be to pay property taxes and insurance. >> barlow believes its a concept that could literally hit home. >> our hope is that it inspires people to do something different here. i mean, we're focused on writers, but there's no reason you couldn't take this model and bring teachers, tell the fire department or police, how would you like to have a house. >> after the money is raided, i don't got carpentry will begin work. applications will be welcomed in the spring with hopes of making a difference in detroit one house at a time. aljazeera, detroit. >> detroit's population lost more than 1 million residents since the 1950's. >> at the end of our second hour, del has a look at what we're following this morning. >> libby, parts of the northeast still dealing with up to 20 inches of snow, that same system that caused widespread power outages across the south. in britain, communities near the thames under water, bracing for two more storms expected to dump more rain this weekend. >> a federal judge in virginia striking down that state's ban on same-sex marriage. >> we'll talk about comcast, $45 billion deal to buy time warner cable met with mixed reviews. the change subscribers could face with that and the hurdles that remain if the deal has to go through. >> the aljazeera morning news continues. del is back with you in just two minutes. real reporting that brings you the world. >> this is a pretty dangerous trip. >> security in beirut is tight. >> more reporters. >> they don't have the resources to take the fight to al shabaab. >> more bureaus, more stories. >> this is where the typhoon came ashore. giving you a real global perspective like no other can. >> al jazeera, nairobi. >> on the turkey-syria border. >> venezuela. >> beijing. >> kabul. >> hong kong. >> ukraine. >> the artic. real reporting from around the world. this is what we do. al jazeera america. >> buried in snow with another round on the way, the impact the storm is having on millions up and down the east coast. >> going to be another rough day for travel, airports cancel thousands of flights. >> virginia, same-sex marriage, what a judge had to say on the ban on couples tying the knot. >> hacking the websites here. simple as that. >> it's a class that teaches people how to be better hackers. we'll tell you why they say this is really a good thing. good morning, it is the last thing people on the east coast want to hear, more snow is on the way today and tomorrow. more than 100 million people continue to dig out from this latest storm. it dumped two feet of snow in some place. the wet, heavy snow and ice leaving hundreds of thousands of people in the dark. power crews now working around the clock just to get everyone's power restored. >> airports around the country brought to a grinding halt, thousands of flights either canceled or delayed. we have the story covered from all angles, including the airports where more delays are expected today. the southeast where the big problem is getting your lights back on and northeast where people are navigating piles of snow to get around. that's where we'll begin, in new york. i'm hearing that more snow is in the forecast. >> good morning, del. well, there may be more snow in the forecast for tomorrow, but i can tell you right now, new yorkers are wake to go a very welcome sight, sun and blue sky. it did snow more overnight but stopped many hours ago. i can tell you it is giving a much-needed reprieve to an area that has already seen three major storms so far this year. >> after getting hit hard by a winter storm all day thursday, a big part of the northeast got another blast of snow overnight. the nation's capitol was a ghost town, but it's airport busy on the runway, not with planes, with you about snowplows. neighboring maryland, which has nearly exhausted its winter budget for the year is doing with close to two feet of snow. >> we slide all over the road. as big as these trucks are, we're sliding. i'm sure no one has this kind of truck at home. >> many have no power, which for some means no heat. >> you get over a third of an inch, you're in the danger zone. half inch or over, you should expect widespread outages. >> pennsylvania is also recovering from widespread power outages with heavy snow in philadelphia. that city has broken a 130 year record for the most six-inch plus storms in one season. >> snow remains a very dangries storm that we are dealing with here in philadelphia. >> in new york, commuters slid through nearly a foot of snow thursday, some relief when the snow stopped in the city, but then came the rain, turning many streets into a slippery mess. in brooklyn, a pregnant woman was struck by a snowplow in a grocery store parking lot, she died, her baby delivered alive by an emergency c-section. >> a state emergency for new york, while new jersey is also under a state of emergency. as the storm snakes up the east coast, hundreds of schools were closed across the state of massachusetts, where the storm is still dumping heavy snow. some areas could see as much as two feet. >> stay home. don't come out, the roads are terrible. stay home. >> what new yorkers are now facing as the weather clears at least temporarily is all the snow is starting to melt just as fast. if we pan the camera around here, you can see a lot of the snow here, a lot that fell overnight is already starting to melt, and turning into this big, slushy mess. the concern as we get into the day is if the temperatures do drop and they will, of course, as the day goes on, all of this snow that has melted could turn to black ice and threaten the evening commute. >> live in new york, thank you very much. we go to the south now where they are still reeling from those back-to-back storms. jonathan martin is in greens borough, north carolina. how are they handling things? >> they're not used to this at all. we were hearing yesterday this is the biggest snowstorm or snow totals in about 15 years for people here in this region, so certainly something they're not used to. the snow is starting to peek out, the temperatures expected to rise to 45 degrees, hopefully melting away the snow. it will likely take a couple of days. about 10-20-inches fell here. what started to melt last night quickly refroze. we're in the middle of a road, not many people taking chance along it, because the are the conditions now are still very, very dangerous. >> the latest winter storm finished blowing through by early thursday afternoon, but the impact still felt by millions today. in north carolina, plows were cleaning the remaining snow while tow trucks began removing abandoned cars. residents are warned to stay off the roads. >> mother nature is still right here with very dramatic weather swings. we're still expecting hazardous road conditions. >> another big problem, massive power outages forcing many to manage in the dark and without heat. >> run wrath trying to get the lights back on. >> georgia governor saw first hand the havoc caused by the storm in augusta. tens of thousands in his state are still without power. from mississippi to virginia, it's about digging out. in greenville, south carolina, the salt is almost gone, the concern there, black ice. >> it's going to get bad. early in the morning, it's going to get rough. >> it's the roads that have proven treacherous, even deadly. in virginia aba snowfall led to the death of a man working for the department of transportation, killed by a dump truck as he pulled over and stood on the shoulder behind his snowplow. as far as power outages here, we understand right now just about 100,000 people still without power. hopefully those numbers will quickly go down. this area here is pretty much now, we were out last night trying to find a place to get something to eat. we went by 20 restaurants and tried to find one open. schools are closed today and near the four seasons mal, the big mal, nobody's out today. it looks like a lot of people staying home, because it will take a while before conditions can get good enough for people to travel on the roads. >> jonathan, thank you very much. the last thing anybody wants to here, more snow on the way. nicole mitchell has been strangling the groundhog after groundhog day and says she is going to do it again. >> thank you for at least blaming the groundhog instead of me for all of this. we already have another system we're watching, at least with less snow. as one system clears, we have another in the midwest that will come this way and a lot of rain into the northwest. let's get to those snow totals. some were higher farther to the south. washington, d.c. almost a foot, that was a record. a few localized spots did see over a foot. ashville north carolina, seven inches. new york, 10 inches, boston three. that's areas where rain mixed in with temperatures going just above freezing rain. i want to mention washington, d.c., almost a foot, all of last year, we only got about three-inches. this and almost a foot is what we see in an entire season. definitely this has been a season we will remember, but the new york total doesn't even put us close to a historic snow. it just depends where you are as to how bad you thought this was. this is clearing out and already parts of new england later today we'll see this into the afternoon, northern parts seeing clearing. behind it we have wind gusts making it feel cooler and any snow might be blowing around. as that system clears, in the midwest, it is start to go head this direction. tomorrow, more snow, less snow, maybe two to four inches, but still, we're getting a little weary of shoveling it. >> as you might expect, all of this bad weather taking a toll an air travel across the country. we are tracking the delays and a lot of cancellations at laguardia. >> there were few airports across the east coast that were not affected by this storm. in fact, yesterday, some 6,500 flights were canceled. now today, that number is down significantly to around 1500 flight cancellations this morning. here at laguardia airport, though, things are looking up. last i checked, there were just a few cancellations and delays, but for the most part, flights are getting off the ground here in new york. that's good news for travelers. i spoke to a couple this morning, including a pilot. >> so is your flight taking off on time today, captain? >> it is, so far. >> where are you going? >> to northwest arkansas. so far it's on time. shouldn't have problems today. the weather obviously today is better than yesterday. i don't anticipate problems. >> how often things been in the airport so far? >> fine except for this very long line. yeah. it's usually moving allege. you take the understanding that they have a lot to deal with, so sort of just be patient and wait. >> here's an interesting fact, the snow and ice storms this winter led to the most flight cancellations in twenties five years. we still have two weeks left in february and all of march so get through. del. >> erika live at laguardia. if you have a flight, phone ahead and stay with aljazeera america. we will have continuing coverage of the storm throughout the day and over the weekend. >> the white house backing off its request that afghanistan's current president hamid karzai sign that security deal determining how many troops will stay in the country. the country might be ready to wait and see about his successor. karzai ruffled more feathers in washington thursday, ignoring protests from the u.s., releasing 65 detainees held as a prison near kabul. >> the u.n.'s chief negotiator saying an impasse is hurting chances of a syria deal. meeting with the syrian opposition and government coalitions says failure is now staring them in the face. top russian and u.s. diplomats promise to keep talks alive. aljazeera's diplomatic editor james bays in geneva. that is a grim assessment. what happened today? >> we have even more grim news, i think and those are comments from the russian minister. remember, the u.s. and the russia are supposed to be the co sponsors of this process. now, russia is hitting out at the west and u.s. for trying to derail this process. that has really serious implications for this deal, because the u.s. and russia are the once who came up with the idea for these peace talks but also for that deal on chemical weapons. u.s. and russia there are also the two nations behind this. the u.s. is already saying it doesn't believe the syrian government is doing enough and is stalling. remember, these two deals, the deal for the peace talks and also the chemical weapons deal are the reason that washington backed off launching a military attack on damascus last summer. we are at a very important moment now and secretary of state john kerry has said that now president obama has asked him and his team to come up with new policy options. >> james, i guess the situation that really calls the most attention is that while they talk, people are dying. the syrian observe atory for human rights saying, nearly 5,000 people have been killed since talks began. is there a sense of urgency that they have to do something and something quick? >> there's a sense of urgency among some of the parties, but if you listen to the opposition they believe the syrian government is quite deliberately stalling and while stalling, dropping barrel bombs, launchinging new offensive at a key strategic town near homs, they believe the government is stalling to intensify fighting on the ground. now we have a dispute between the u.s. and russia who were supposed to be the two countries trying to get this going. we have big problems. >> james bays joining us live from geneva, thank you very much. >> there has been a rare agreement, north and south korea saying yes to reunions of families in the north and south. the two have been holding high level talks this week, today's announcement making no mention of the military drills the north was opposed to. both sides agreed to stop exchanging verbal insults and continue to talk. >> it is almost been now 100 days since the typhoon struck the philippines, more than 600,000 people killed, 3 million homes damaged. three months later mails of people still displaced. we return to tacloban, the largest city directly hit by that typhoon. >> the streets of tacloban are bustling again, but life is anything but back to normal. electricity and running water have been restored to most places, but three months after the typhoon swept across the fill teens, much of the devastation remains. dead bodies are still found in the debris and survivors remain haunted by the memories. 66-year-old fisherman lost his home and five members of his family. >> i thought humanity would be wiped out. everywhere i looked, there was water. i looked up and it was dark and the wind and waves were howling. i had no hope that i could still be alive after that. i left it in god's hands. >> he and what's left of his family have been surviving on donations, like others in this community, he lost his boat in the storm, his only means to earn a living. >> to prevent a similar catastrophe in the future, the local government has banned anyone from living forth meters from the shoreline, but many people in village here say they have nowhere else to go and have rebuilt their shelters exactly where they used to be, just meters from the water's edge. >> the local government has built temporary bunk house to say accommodate the displaced, but there aren't enough for those in need. housing is just one of many challenges facing these communities. >> the infrastructure needs help, the poor people in society, it's difficult for them to get them on the first rung of the ladder. >> more than 650 million u.s. dollars in aid have come in, but solutions for long term rehabilitation aren't implemented fast enough for many. >> they keep calling meetings, but no help has come. what about our livelihood? what do we do when the relief runs out? >> these children aren't as worried about the future. they take each day as it comes and unafraid can still build their sand castles on the shore. aljazeera, tacloban. >> the president of the philippines saying rebuilding will cost more than $8 billion. sunday marks day 100. >> epic flooding in the united kingdom, people bracing for more. what some homeowners face besides rising waters. >> we're going to get second class service at very high price witness no options to choose. >> concerns over that megamerger between comcast and time warner. some fear the customers will be left paying on this one for a long time. >> straight ahead, gay rights advocate celebrating a big win in one state. first all the temperatures across the nation and whether or not everything that melted is going to refreeze. >> we've had some of that overnight, be careful in places like the south. temperatures are starting to get above freezing, atlanta 34, birmingham 30. watch for slick spots. up the coastline, temperatures right at that freezing mark and again tonight could be doing the same. watch for a couple days of those freezing temperatures and possible refreezing. now we'll be able to melt a significant amount of this into the south today. temperatures yesterday made it more into the 40's, but today into the 50's, that will really help melting that ice off. up the coastline, a little more 30's and 40's today, but behind this system and with another coming in with more snow, those temperatures drop into the day tomorrow. if you really want the mild stuff, texas some temperatures in the 70's and widespread through the southwest, a lot of temperatures in even the 80's, so if you're taking advantage of the long holiday weekend, maybe that's the place to, some sunshine. >> there has been another victory for same sex couples, a federal judge in virginia saying that state's ban in unconstitutional violating equal protection laws. it is the second state in the south to make a decision on the legality of gay marriage. wednesday, a judge in kentucky said that state also must recognize gay marriages performed in other states, although it didn't specifically address kentucky's ban on same sex unions. currently, 17 states allow same-sex marriage. >> two republicans senators are now looking to protect states that don't recognize same-sex marriage. texas senator ted cruz an utah senator mike lee introducing the state marriage defense act, similar to another act overturned last year. the bill has little chance of making it to the senate floor according to analysts. >> java is on high alert because of a volcano spewing ash. two were killed when debris caused part of their home to collapse. the military's been called to help evacuate 100,000 people. flights have been canceled. the last time it erupted was 17 years ago. >> the thames breaching its banks with the wettest winter in years. every county on the south is on alert and more storms on the way. the government promises help. one community isn't waiting. >> not far from the swollen thames river, about 25 miles west of london is st. pauls. the community has pulled together to help its own. guided by father michael roper, originally from north carolina. >> this is all food parcels to go out. there's cold food, hot food, there's all sorts of things. >> the waters have spilled on to nearly every street here. father michael tours the area daily. >> how much of your parish is affected? >> two thirds of the parish is underwater. >> where you are heading? >> i'm bog to take as much stuff and put it into a friend's shed and then back to my parents. >> aid often comes from the unexpected kindness of strangers, but not everyone is here to help especially after dark. >> two, three streets over closer to the school, there have been break-ins. >> the empty water-logged homes, too big a temptation for some. >> this road is the very edge of st. paul's parish. father michael said they are helping as many as they can and all they can do now is wait for the waters to go down. >> it doesn't look like that will be soon. the ground is soaked and more rain to come. the british army has arrived with men and trucks to help support the community through whatever comes next. >> we are providing some man power to assist in a civilian effort to relieve flooded houses in the area. >> although the waters have receded, they are expected to rise again. a new storm is due to hit friday with some areas expecting to see another inch and a half of rain and everyone here, including father michael is trying to take it one day at a time. >> more than 1100 homes flooded since rains began last month. >> the nation's biggest mortgage lender is slowly getting back into the sub prime home loan business, far go expected to extend credit to high risk borrowers. banks tightened credit standards after those same sub prime loans figured the financial crisis. wells fargo is looking for more sources of revenue after refis slow. >> joseph a. bank is allowed to cancel the pressure if it reaches a deal with men's warehouse. >> the cold weather seems to be good for campbell profit, saying earnings rose 71% in the last quarter. soup sales jumped 5%. >> we're going to find how upbeat consumers are about the economy. today's report on consumer sentiment follows disappointing data number that came out on retail sails and the labor market. they expect a small improvement in consumer optimism. >> looking straight now to wall street, looking at a mixed opening ahead of data, do you futures up just a point, the dow kicking above the key 16,000 level, s&p 1829 nasdaq at 4,240. asia markets ending higher after inflation data out of china remains steady. european markets are higher after encouraging economic growth data. >> russell simmons passionate when it comes to ending the war on drugs. he talked about it with soledad o'brien. >> the war on drugs has done more to destroy the fabric of the black community than anything we can think of. not the effects of jim crow and the effects of slavery, it's the war on drugs. you take an innocent people, lock them up, educate them in criminal behavior and dump them back in the hood with no hope. >> you can see the entire interview this sunday at 7:00 p.m. eastern time. that is talk to aljazeera. >> it would be one of the biggest mergers in history, but some say comcast acquisition of time warner is bad for business when it comes to their customers. >> also, there could be a major break through that could change the way we get our energy. scientists saying that we are one step closer to an endless supply with little if any waste. >> a class where people are taught to be computer hackers. they say they're doing to it catch the bad guys on line. >> things are not bowedding well for bodie miller in sochi. we'll head to the slopes. >> you are looking live at sochi where the games continue and the u.s. is making some gains. all the details and heights straight ahead. it will carry over into the february/march sales. purchasers put off in january hopefully will be shifted into the later months in the future. >> consumer spending drives 70% of economic active ci. the winter -- activity. the winter storm postponed janet yellen's second day of testimony. the senate banking committee will re schedule. no new date has been set. >> it's enough to make a corvette lover cringe. a disaster at a museum dedicated to the cars. we look at the science behind sink holes. >> welcome back to aljazeera america. these are the stories we are following. >> the east coast digging out, some parts hammered with two feet of snow. power out courages reported in new york, new jersey, connecticut and pennsylvania. flights are taking offer once again this morning. more than 70% of all the flights canceled in boston, philadelphia and washington, d.c., the snow and ice this winter causing the motor flight cancellations in 25 years. >> a grim assessment from the u.n. chief negotiator on a way forward for syria, saying the talks in geneva are making very little progress and failure staring all sides in the face. he met with delegates from the syrian opposition and government today. >> cyber crime on the rice, as evidenced by attacks on major retailers. one school in new york is teaching students how to use hacking for good. >> every week, dozens of students order pizza, play music and fire up their lap tops. >> you're really hacking into websites here. >> yep, we are. we are. it's kind of scary when you think about it. >> let me get your attention. >> it's called hack night. here the websites they're breaking into are fake. >> you ever made our own version of flickr, pretty much. >> teaching students how to become so-called white hackers, good guys who can fight off cyber attacks. >> the best way for us to defend against the attackers is to understand how the attacks are working in the first place. >> recent breaches exposed the vulnerable of the on line world. only 11% of companies are properly protected. >> i will not pay with anything using a credit card. i will pay cash everywhere i go. >> cyber security professor swears he almost knows too much. >> i see the ways that hackers can get in, the ways things can go wrong. >> if i could see what you see? >> you would see the world as a scary place. >> gangs, criminals are turning on line for cash and technology changing so quickly, it's difficult to keep up. >> there's almost a check list of a million things you have to do right and if the attacker finds one that you didn't quite do right, then they've hacked your system. >> companies launched bug points, offering cash or prizes to anyone who finds problems with their systems. >> submitted a form on the user's behalf. >> kevin discovered a security flaw in a major on line retailer. >> didn't do anything with it, but it's something bad could happen later down the road. >> he shares his knowledge with classmates. >> in the end, it's up to them to not take what they learned and do mean things with it. with great power comes great responsibility. >> a great power especially in demand. jonathan betz, aljazeera new york. >> i want to look at some of the figures on this. we are seeing now that in 2012, cyber crime costs the average u.s. company $11.5 million, last year, as we had been reporting, 40 million target customers had their credit card and debit card information compromised by hackers, 7 million had their personal information compromised as well. are companies taking cyber crime seriously? >> i think they're absolutely taking it seriously, what's become apparent with recent attacks is keeping up with the different types of avenues and attacks out there. these attacks are a great example that being aware of just how exposed the point of sales systems are and the networks leading to those systems is possibly and avenue not everyone took seriously at a threat before but certainly are doing so now. >> i've read that you have had your credit cards hacked. i've had mine hacked. only 11% of businesses adopting the industry standards with reward to say security. why? >> well, it's a large expense for the companies. there are countries outside of the u.s. a little more ahead of adopting secure technology, such as chip and pin transaction specific encryption, but i think once the companies are required to keep up with those trends or its regulated, we'll see swifter action. we've already had the companies that are affected by some of these latest issues commit to accelerating their efforts to adopt more secure transaction technologies and enable to more secure purchasing process for their customers. it's still going to be sometime before allowing these entities in the u.s. to catch up with other parts of the world. >> these credit card companies are making billions just off of us using their cards. why aren't they required to do so? i go back to the old days of what she the only thing you had to worry about was not having enough of it or somebody ripping you off. >> i think we're probably not far from that, but some of the onus is on the issuers of the cards and retailers themselves, as well. if there's doubt or concern about the security of those cards or the pros of using those cards, then, you know, you're absolutely right in that there's going to be times you have to evaluate what you're doing with your cards, who you're spending it with, what merchants you're doing business with and if you feel more safe and secure using cash, you a at his have that option as a consumer, there will be a time when our retailers and the card industry are forced to utilize these more secure methods. while not flawless, definitely offer a more safe and secure transaction process for consumers and limit the attack surface. >> what do you say to people who say this is now a younger man's game that as the younger generation gets tech savvy, they are better at hacking? >> well, there's two side to say that. it's definitely -- we're growing up in thing a of digital natives and the environment of in this eco system of white hat-black hat hacking and where to find certain information, good information, bad information is much more obvious to the younger and current generation than it was to my own generation. people are growing up in this environment, they've never known it to not be there. there's a lot to be said for some of the earlier generations or my own, for example, where you have experience and you kind of know how these things popped up, you know the evolution of the threats and actors and where the motivation is and where to find them. it goes both ways, but there is something to be said for those going up in a time where they've not known any different. >> jim, thank you very much. >> researchers in california saying they have made a broke through in their effort to find a new source of energy. their work could lead to an endless supply of energy without waste. >> scientists say it's a major step toward the holy grail of clean energy, nuclear fusion. in a laboratory experiment, scientists create more energy than used in the fuel to create the reaction. in a laboratory experiment reported in the journal nature, science activities at california's lawrence live moor lab produced more energy out of fusion than was contained in the fuel used to create the reaction. unlike nuclear physician, used in atomic weapons and nuclear power plants, fusion produces energy forcing atomic particles together. fusion is the power that fuels the sun and stars. it does not create any explosion, leaves behind no radioactive waste and produces no greenhouse gases linked to global warming. fusion's few he will source is hydrogen, the most plentiful element in the universe. the experiment deploys 192 powerful lasers that focus enormous amounts of energy in billion of a second long pulses. scientists did not reach the break through point called ignition, a sustained fusion reaction that produces more energy than used in the entire process. researchers say they have a long way to go before they reach that goal. rob reynolds, aljazeera los angeles. >> nuclear fusion could be used to develop weapons. >> in sports, one week down, one to go, the winter olympics in sochi. >> bodie miller could use fusion to get things going. they were in big trouble in the super combined after finishing this morning's downhill portion in 12 and 18 spots respectively tried to save themselves in slalom. miller's time of 51.9 was only good enough for seventh place in that event. neither legty nor jared goldberg could do better, none medaling. switzerland was also down after the downhill portion, but top spot in the slalom with a few skiers to go. switzerland has taken a second gold medal in cross country skiing, winning the classic style race ahead of sweden abalso taking the top spot in last sunday's ski-athalon. >> a bobsled crash, one of the only 20 sleds not to make a run. it was only a training run. the wall street journal reports that the american speed skaters are being hampered by suits that are not exactly up to snuff, being made by under armor. american seany davis, word is that he wanted to wear his nike suit and put an underarmor logo on it to compete in future events. america is in very good shape in the women's skeleton event. the pace turning in a time of 157.3 for second place behind great britain. the final two runs wrap up competition around 10:30 eastern time this morning. >> critics who said a russian skater should have let a younger skater take his spot are saying i told you so after leaving because of back pain. he did help russia win a gold medal this year in team figure skating. he was russia's only men's figure skater, so his withdrawal means no medals for russia in men's singles this year. crashing hard into the wall, another skater to great applause picked himself up and finished his routine. he won't be winning gold, but japan looks poised to do that after becoming the first skater to get a score eclipsing 100. >> the l.a. lakers played thursday like they really didn't want to set the record for home losses. they led kevin durant and visiting oklahoma city thunder by 10 into the fourth quarter thursday night, but that's when durant hit the after burners scoring 19 of his 43 points in a 35-point fourth quarter leading them to a come from behind win. the lakers now have lost 17 games in a row. >> i remember glory days for the lake jeers wasn't that long ago. >> as we have reported, comcast reach that go deal to acquire time warner would make comcast the largest cable provider in the u.s. if approved, comcast would then control a third of t.v. and broad band services in the country. aljazeera takes a look at that deal and what it would mean for consumers. >> by any measure, comcast proposed bid to take over time warner is huge. by buying the second largest cable provider, comcast would have roughly 33 million subscribers cementing its place as the countries largest cable company. >> when chase both j.p. morgan, that was only a $33 billion deal, so this is a really large merger. >> the deal was unexpected and comes after comcast became a major content producer by finalizing its purchase of nbc universal. comcast is the largest provider with 22 million subscribers, satellite direct t.v. and dish network follow. time warner is next with 11 million. smaller companies have more than 4 million each. what can consumers expect? one analyst said changes for consumers won't be dramatic. >> consumers who are in comcast markets probably won't see any change at all. time warner cable market consumers will see subtle changes to their services, some sorts of improvements over time, although that will probably take a while to implement and integrate, but relatively subtle over time, although not inconsequential. >> comcast is more aggressive with t.v. everywhere products, allowing content on mobile devices. comcast also has more on demand programming, comcast calling it pro consumer, critics think not. >> in 19 of the 20 largest cities in america, there's just one choice or will be after this merger, comcast as their local cable monopoly. the problem for consumers means they're going to get second class service with no options to choose anybody else. >> while the two companies have no geographical overlap, the deal is expected to come under intense scrutiny from federal regulators. comcast said it will shed 3 million subscribers, but some observers expect more concessions will be needed. aljazeera. >> is this a good thing? amy young is an analyst in new york. craig is president of free press in washington, d.c. to understand the size of this merger, let's look at the numbers. comcast time warner with close to 22 million subscriber time warner, roughly 12 million. with the reach of over 30 million subscribers in the u.s., is this a good thing? >> i think from a consumer perspective, people are always worried that bigger will mean something that's negative for the consumer. you have to remember cable companies don't overlap. there's no overlapping zip codes, so combining them actually gives these companies much greater skill -- >> even though they don't overlap in terms of service area, they do in terms of there being one mace the management sits and they make the decision how much everybody pace. >> again, you have to remember, this is a business of scale and as scale increases, this is actually pro consumer, helping innovation and could potentially drive higher broad band speeds, which is the reason people like and use cable companies these days. >> i think the supposed benefits of this merger are being vastly overrated. the one thing you never hear is that prices might go down. they won't. cable prices go up and up and up some more and this this merger is allowed to go through, that's going to be the consumer experience. this deal will also give the new giant comcast so much control over what we watch, hear, read and download, really unprecedented control. this is also about your broad band connection beside cable t.v. and it would be number one in all categories. >> is it your feeling that they will be signing off an a monopoly? >> i certainly would call ate near monopoly, unprecedented media power certainly in the cable business, comcast would be the dominant company, the number one internet service provider which they already are. this combined company would offer service to with it thirds of americans. that's an incredible amount of gate keeper power if you want to get a cable channel, access internet content, all that have goes through comcast. they would become by far, i think the most powerful media company in this country, no one else would be close. >> here's the thing that you hear a lot of consumers say. they see mergers take place, the companies getting bigger, but also see their bottom line, their bills getting bigger, too. can you name an instance where there has been one of these megamergers and the consumer won by paying less? >> you're see that go at t mobile, sprint, at&t verdicts and mergers have actually helped lower prices for telecom and wireless services. i think this is one scenario. google fiber coming in, they're much more video options than ever before, including netflix, hulu and amazon. >> the benefit for consumers has been in stopping mergers. the just department stopped the at&t mobile personal their created more competition benefiting consumers seeing new pricing plans and lower prices from actual competition. consumers benefit when companies change behavior because of facing competition. google is only in a couple of markets. again, comcast would be in 40 states if this deal goes through, giving them a lot of power over things like netflix which need to ride over those cable wires to reach viewers. >> you have to ask yourself what jane and john doe who just want to watch sports why they need high speed and the bills. thank you for being with us this morning. >> it is a place where you can create just about anything. the space giving innovators tools they need to bring new ideas to life. >> tracking the end of the storm and glick of another. back with our final forecast. al jazeera america. >> welcome back to aljazeera may. i'm del walters. set a putting a new spin on the cafe. let's find out what is going to happen next with weather. >> we have a long holiday weekend ahead for some. we're getting one system cleared out. new england will be out from under this. we have another disturbance coming into the midwest poised for the northeast and mid atlantic. the west coast has been extremely moist with lower elevations, heavy rain, higher elevation snow, enough that between that and the fact that it's been a little warmer and some melting of the recent snow, there could be places that get three inches or more over the weekend, but we are seeing some flooding areas especially rivers and streams, so watch for that. the midwest is a system that will continue along. this has less moisture with it, so in the core of all of this two to four inches and on the periphery, one to three as this moves along, we've seen snow in iowa for example this morning. this is starting to hit up watches and will hit the east coast just as we get out of one area of snow. back to you. >> in seattle, there is an unusual cafe where you can get espresso with a side of high tech manufacturing. it gives customers the tools to make just about anything they can project. >> it's a place where anyone can walk in and make just about anything with just about anything. >> from sewing and knitting machines to laser cutters and lead to printers. >> we have parts supplies, snacks, free internet, coffee. >> metrics create space is a place to meet, mingle and make. it sprung out of matt's idea of what he calls the tool curve. >> at the bottom of the curve, you have hammers and nails and things everybody has. >> from there, the curve goes to the super modern high end presses, printers and cutters. >> these tools are things you would not find in your house and now we have some things not even found in university lab. >> like the protolaser, it can print circuit boards. metrics is open every day of the week noon to midnight. as with motor workplaces, there's a vending machine in the corner, although not for snacks. if you need a circuit board, old timey t.v. remote control, it's all here. terrance gets a chance to get out and play at night. >> there's a lot of really like-mind geeks like me that come down here and spend time. >> those like minded geeks helped spur his idea for a make it yourself lead to printer. he raised more than $120,000 on the on line fundraising tool kickstarter. >> a savvy enough parent that can assemble a kid's bike can probably put is together with a child helping in about a weekend and start printing. >> once assembled, you can print the parts to make more 3-d printers. while it was the cool toolles that first got tam in the door, it's the creative people that keep him coming back. >> when you put these guys together in a room in a place like this, that's when the magic happens. >> for matt, the hardest part might be figuring out the next big thing so he can build it, or help others build it. >> that is alan reporting and that's it for this hour of aljazeera. thanks for joining us. this is the 900 page document we call obama care. and my staff has read the entire thing. can congress say the same? there's more to it. consider this: the news of the day plus so much more. >> we begin with the government shutdown. >> answers to the questions no one else will ask. >> it seems like they can't agree to anything in washington no matter what. >> antonio mora, award winning and hard hitting. >> we've heard you talk about the history of suicide in your family. >> there's no status quo, just the bottom line. >> but, what about buying shares in a professional athlete? real perspective, consider this on al jazeera america as a leading industrialized nation, why are we power less to prevent these outages? why is hamid karzai setting free? and the high cost of valentine's day. hi, i'm antonio mora, here is more on what's ahead. >> we're going to continue to monitor the power outages. >> frozen rain and sleet may be
ArkansasUnited-statesThames-riverConnecticutJerusalemIsrael-general-IsraelWest-bankLouisvilleKentuckyBrooklynNew-york why the organization may reverse its controversial stance of excluding gay scouts and troop leaders. >> and get ready for a weather roller coaster ride. we're about to get a taste of spring and the possibility of snow all within a few days. thanks for joining us tonight tonight at 10:00. i'm shawn yancy. >> i'm brian bolter. we begin with the dramatic standoff between a bank robber and police that unfolded live on our air two years ago today. >> tonight one of the employees held hostage inside that bank is sharing her story for the first time. she sat down with fox 5's lauren demarco for this exclusive interview. >> before we saw this scene the gunman emerging from the bank hostage in hand he had spent about an hour inside the building terrorizing the staff who just arrived for their shift. diana vera's desk was inside an office in the bank. she describes the day that she will never forget and how it has impacted her life. [ sirens ] >> i'm hearing gunfire. let's lock those doors. we need to lock those doors. >> all right. we are following breaking news right now. >> the live coverage was terrifying. a gunman holding a bank teller hostage outside of the capital one in takoma park, maryland. in a matter of minutes two years of that frightening morning bank employee diana vera is still recovering from the traumatic experience. >> it totally changed my life. >> she was in her office just to the right of the front door when the suspect walked in. she immediately sensed something was wrong. >> it had snowed that week. normally our customers would take off their hats and gloves and this person didn't. that's what caught my eye. >> moments later 43-year-old carlos espinoza pulled out a gun and demanding cash. diana was the only one present who spoke spanish and who could communicate with him. >> a lot of people say it's a cliche, but your life literally does pass before your eyes. >> she says he yanked her by the hair and put a gun to her head. >> there are times i still feel, you know, that piece of metal. >> diana says she will never forget the chilling words he said. >> do as i say and you won't get killed. that really struck with me. i kept repeating to him i have a grandson. i have a grandson. >> as employees scrambled to bring the robber a bag filled with cash police began arriving at the scene. >> he first saw we were surrounded, so i thought he would just kind of shoot me, shoot the other girl and shoot himself because he was not getting out of there. >> fortunately none of the victims lost their lives. espinoza grabbed a bank teller. he held a gun to her head and walked her outside, but when he slipped on a patch of ice, she took off running. police shot and killed him on the spot. diana says it was the thought of her family that helped her get through the ideal, but ironically in the days and months that followed diana's trauma took a toll on her children as well. >> i was nonaffectionate. i was enclosed in my room. it affects everybody that's close to you. >> she didn't leave her house for three months. >> checking the windows making sure he's not out there where in my mind i know he's dead. they had to defend, you know, us, you know, and that's the only way they could do it, but i still feel sometimes that he's present. >> diana has not been able to return to this area since the incident two years ago. she still works for the bank, but she's been relocated to an office where she no longer works with the public. diana says she's still seeking closure. >> god forgive me for saying this, but i have not been able to forgive him. little by little i've tried to let go and it's been very hard. there are times where your mood is great, you're moving on and there are times where the days are not so great. >> she's found focusing on helping others through charity work to be therapeutic and she doesn't take anything for granted. >> our lives could have ended that day, but god said no. you're staying down there. you still have some work i need you to get done and that's what i'm doing, doing the best i can. >> lauren demarco, fox 5 news. >> diana and the other employees including the teller you see in the chopper video kept in touch for the first few months but have since gone their separate ways. as a mother of three and grandmother who still works a full-time job, diana was very much in control of her life and she says the hardest thing for her was that complete loss of control of having a gun to her head and she still is working to get over that. >> she's been through so much. we understand she's also working to help other people who are in her shoes as well. >> yes. she says therapy and support from family members goes a long way, but she also thinks that she would have benefited from the understanding and guidance from someone who had gone through a similar experience, so she's now looking into starting up a support group for survivors of traumatic experiences. >> thank you. another bank robbery, this one in silver spring. it happened in the 11000 block of georgia avenue this afternoon. montgomery county police say a man walked into this capital one bank and walked out with cash. no one was hurt. tonight police are still investigating. a news alert out of virginia, jury deliberations will resume tomorrow in the trial of a former culpeper police officer charged with murder. daniel harmon-wright is accused of kill bag trisha cook last february. the injure -- killing patricia cook last february. the jury got the case this afternoon. harmon-wright testified in his own defense last friday, told jurors when he attempted to question cook while she was sitting in her car, she rolled up the window, trapped his car and tried to drive away. other witnesses have disputed this version of events. closing arguments in the anne arundel county executive trial of john leopold. two doctors and the personnel for the county testified. the defense contend leopold suffered from crippling back pain in 2010 when he is accused of using his police detail to run personal and political errand. prosecutors say leopold defrauded taxpayers. another big story tonight, the boy scouts of america may be making some major changes. the organization is considering ending its ban on gay scouts and leaders. final decision could come as early as next week. fox's jonathan hunt has more. >> if they ever found out that you were homosexual that you would lose your vigil and the order of the arrow. >> reporter: the boy scouts of america in a stunning reversal from their age old policy against admitting gays and lesbians saying their future scouts honor and sexual orientation won't be in question if their board agrees to loosen its restrictions. in a statement released monday saying in part, "this would mean there would no longer be any national policy regarding sexual orientation. the group's restriction now prevents what scout rules call open or avowed homosexuals from participating as scouts or scout leaders. the enactment comes after years of nationwide protests over their no gays policy. in 2000 the supreme court upheld their ban. one former eagle scout reacting to the possible reversal. >> there appears to be a step in the right direction. to deny one young boy or young man the opportunity to be in community with the others, it's just so sad. >> reporter: the new policy would leave it up to local scout troops and found sponsors, the conservative family research council accusing the boy scouts of bowing to the strong armed tactics of activists saying if the board capitulates to the bullying of homosexual activists, the boy scouts' legacy of producing great leaders will become yet another casualty of moral compromise. change could come as soon as next week after the organization's board holds its annual meeting. jonathan hunt, fox news. >> we asked our facebook friends what they think about the boy scouts ending the ban on gays. 50% think it's a good idea. 40% do not. 10% are undecided. we got off to a frozen start with some seriously slippery conditions this morning, cleared out for the day, but what's in store for tomorrow? sue palka in the fox 5 weather center. >> for the first time in several nights it does not look like the area will be below freezing. we expect no problems tomorrow, although there is a little bit of fog out there, but you'll be surprised when you see these temperatures and by the way, the range in temperatures because d.c. is 44 degrees. that is typical for our average high for the day, but get down to fredericksburg it's 54 and then look up toward frederick and it's 36 degrees. so we have an 18-degree spread. tomorrow we may also have some similar temperatures challenges because we still have the wedge of cold air hanging on in the north and east while it's definitely breaking to our south of the raleigh and richmond and pittsburgh are all 50. so we're surrounded by warmer air that wants to try to move on in. check out temperatures overnight. we're not going to be slipping below freezing. d.c. about 38 degrees, some areas of fog, but most places not that cold. in fact, i think the coldest reading we'll find is frederick with that overnight low of 34. we've got everything in the forecast this week including a nice change to warmer weather, a bit of a break. that. , we're going to see temperatures surging over the next couple days, but also that strong frontal boundary that you see coming is going to be game changer. so between the warmer temperatures we have and the mile night on tap tonight at 38 degrees we'll also have to be talking about heavy thunderstorms, possibly severe and snow showers, brian, all in the span of a few days. we'll show you that seven-day forecast from accuweather coming up. congress has passed a new bill to help victims of hurricane sandy. the bill would provide $50.5 billion in emergency relief, at least $16 billion to be given to state and local governments through grants of the housing and urban development department it. will now move to president obama's desk for signature. the storm killed 140 causing billions of dollars in property damage. coming up next a nasty norovirus bug invades the d.c. area, what you need to know to keep your family healthy. >> a witness described it as opening the gates of hell, new details about the horrific nightclub fire that killed more than 200 people including the safety codes that were ignored. >> coming up on the news edge at 11:00 a divided country on the gun control debate, those for and against stricter gun laws, the latest on the president's plight to keep guns out of the hands of criminals. >> keep it right here. fox 5 news at 10:00 is just getting started. there is no mass produced human. so we created the extraordinarily comfortable sleep number experience. a collection of innovations designed around a bed with dual-air technology that allows you to adjust to the 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she thought it was food poisoning but found out otherwise when the infection landed her in the emergency room the first night. >> there was this nausea, vomiting. it went on for about 12 hours and i wound up dehydrated. >> reporter: two days later noah got sick, too. >> my stomach was bubbling a lot. i threw up a couple times and i was just in the bed, like my stomach really hurt. >> reporter: what the morrises had is what doctors say is a new strain of a highly contagious norovirus called the sydney strain because it started in australia and has caused outbreaks around the world. it's spread easily through direct contact at work, school or other enclosed areas. >> i'm a real estate agent shaking hands all day. it's so easy to transmit. i wasn't surprised at all. >> reporter: symptoms include stomach page, vomiting and diarrhea -- pain, vomiting and i do re, why chills, body ache and fatigue. -- diarrhea, chills, body ache and fatigue. wash your hands frequently. disinfect areas when someone gets sick and if you come down with the stomach flu, drink plenty of liquids. that's what this mother and son did now feeling much better after their battle with the norovirus. >> noah and i got it out of a family of four. so i'm keeping my fingers crossed that my husband and daughter don't wind up sick. >> as usual, young children and elderly adults have the highest risk for severe illness. the cdc says it is too early to know if this new strain of norovirus will lead to more outbreaks. >> at least 16 people in five states -- at least 16 people in five states have suffered salmonella food poisoning linked to beef. in michigan seven people ate a raw ground beef dish last month at a detroit restaurant. health officials say consumers shouldn't eat uncooked meat. the cases have been linked to last week's recall of more than 1,000 pounds of ground beef from two michigan businesseses. the very latest on a developing story in -- businesses. the very latest on a developing story in brazil, families and friends gathering to remember loved ones killed in a party in santa maria. more than 230 people died and hundreds more hurt, fox 5's will thomas following the developments. >> good evening. many victims were under the age of 20 and some were minors. investigators say acoustic tomorrow insulation on the ceiling of that club caught fire. hot ash started falling onto the dance floor and that's when panic set in and thousands of people all at once tried to get out. chaos outside a tiny brazilian nightclub called kiss sunday night. the last known images from inside minutes earlier show the stage lit up by a small pyrotechnique show as the band played. suddenly flames engulfed the ceiling. according to survivors, concertgoers were stampeding towards the club's only exit pushing and shoving each other trying to get out. police say security guards briefly tried to block people from leaving thinking they were trying to skip out on their bar tabs. brazilian bars routinely make you pay the entire tab at the end of the night of the investigators think the club was overcrowded and the use of pyrotechniques wasn't supposed to happen. translator: the law says that a club like that has to have all the protective equipment. the people there did not have it. 1 has to be responsible for -- someone has to be responsible for that. >> reporter: the first of many funerals are beginning. fire officials believe most of the victims died from smoke inhalation even before the flames reached them and they say many died being trampled in the rush to the exits. translator: we can't believe this. this is something that left its mark on the city and will leave its mark for a long time to come. it's an enormous tragedy, very big. >> the story has startling similarities to 2003 in rhode island when the band great white took the stage at the station nightclub. in that tragic case pyrotechniques set fire to flammable soundproofing tomorrow. concertgoers frantically tried to escape and many didn't, just like the heartbreaking stories we're hearing out of brazil. 100 people died. since then rhode island has introduced haws to avoid a similar tragedy -- laws to avoid a similar tragedy including sprinkler laws on businesses. >> that club had double the maximum capacity when the fire broke out. piles of bodies were discovered in barrel and it's believed the bathroom door was -- in the bathroom and it's believed the bathroom door was confused with an exit. police are looking for the fourth person in connection with a fire. it happened to be the last weekend of summer break for many of those students. a long time maryland legislator hurt in a fire thursday night has died. 80 clearly christine jones died saturday at a baltimore -- 83- year-old christine jones died saturday at a baltimore hospital. she was found thursday inside her home after a fire. in her final year she was the assistant floor leader for house democrats. d.c. has a lot of extra doe. the city is about to announce it has a surplus of more than $400 million. what will it do with all that cash? the story straight ahead. also ahead. >> reporter: it looks like a snake, swims like a fish, but would you eat it? i'm karen gray houston in georgetown where they're kicking off a campaign to help get a monstrous predator out of the potomac. when it comes to money, the d.c. government is in great shape. in fact, the mayor is expected to announce tomorrow the district has a surplus of more than $400 million. the question now is what to do with it? fox 5's matt ackland takes a look at the debate over what to do with the surplus. >> mayor gray is expected to announce tuesday where this extra cash came from. an insider says it's over $400 million. so what do you do with all that extra money? >> give it to the people that really need it. >> reporter: calvin mcintosh and many others believe social services should benefit from the surplus. >> we don't believe the city has to save of penny. >> reporter: some believe the district should focus the extra cash on those who need it most. the district is growing, but affordable housing is a big issue and widespread poverty remains a problem. >> there are a lot of our residents that are still struggling. so it's really important that we use some of the additional resources to make some of those investments in programs that will really help everybody succeed. >> reporter: but council member jack evans says save the extra cash. the $400 million would bring the overall in the bank savings account for d.c. to $1.6 billion. >> the magic of 1.6, it gives us two months of expenditures in the bank and that's what wall street looks at what they're determining ratings. >> reporter: the mayor is likely to side with council member evans. one reason is the possible cutbacks in government spending on capitol hill. if that happens, the extra cash will be needed. >> but it would be the responsible thing to do. >> reporter: things can get much better when it comes to the district's finances in the future. tax revenue is expected to go up. some estimate as much as $200 million. in the newsroom matt ackland, fox 5 news. d.c. officials turned down donald trump's request for a tax break. trump's organization will be required to pay millions of local property taxes to redevelop the old post office. trump and his daughter asked if the district would forego taxes to facilitate redevelopment, but the mayor and the council said no. a major change to immigration laws in the works now and it has the thumbs up from both political parties. we'll break it down coming up next. >> also ahead a developing story overseas, the clues that could lead police to an american woman missing in turkey. this is fox 5 news at 10:00. a major announcement on capitol hill today could reshape the debate on immigration. a group of bipartisan lawmakers have agreed on an immigration reform deal. the center piece, a path to citizenship for the 11 million illegal immigrants already in the country. fox 5's tom fitzgerald has more. >> reporter: in place known for more conflict than compromise, a bipartisan announcement to overhaul immigration laws. >> americans overwhelmly oppose illegal immigration and support legal immigration. >> reporter: their proposals would set up a process for illegal immigrants to become u.s. citizens and increases in border security that are tracking for immigrants here on visas, green cards for people who earn advance degrees and creating an immigration verification status system for employers who cannot find u.s. citizens to fill jobs. >> we have been too content for too long to allow individuals to mow our lawn, serve our food, clean our homes and even watch our children while not affording them any of the benefits that make our country so great. >> if i want to secure the nation, i cannot secure the nation unless i know who is here to pursue the american dream versus who might be here to do it harm. >> reporter: in the 2012 election 71% of latino votes went to president obama. florida republican senator marco rubio a possible 2016 presidential candidate was a key member of this senate reform team. >> we also have to ensure that we don't do anything that encourages people to come here illegally in the future, but by the same token we are dealing with 11 million human beings. >> reporter: for its part the white house welcomed the deal. president obama will travel to nevada tuesday to lay out his vision which overlaps with the senate version. >> the president believes that it's very important that we move forward on comprehensive immigration reform. it's the right thing to do for the country. >> reporter: passage is widely expected in the senate, but the roadblock could come in the house. the rep conservatives have voiced concern -- republican conservatives have voiced concerns about creating paths to citizenships before holes in u.s. border security are closed. in an effort to gather more republican support for these proposals the path to citizenship has some stopgaps built into it. the senators say they will not allow those portions of the reforms to move forward until goals on border security are met. in the newsroom tom fitzgerald, fox 5 news. >> fox 5 political analyst mark plotkin joins us now to help break this down even more. we know this is a bipartisan group of lawmakers besides marco rubio, who are the other key players? >> yes. john mccain who is the standard bearer of the republican party who in 2007 tried to do something and it failed in the senate. jeff flake, a new freshman senator from arizona, formerly a house member, and finally for regional distribution lindsey graham, not a raving liberal, another republican from south carolina. so the real component of this that makes it special is that it is bipartisan and it has some very important republican names, especially in the senate. >> it's nice to see them working together for a change, but i got a question. do you think this shows a new willingness by the mainstream gop to compromise especially following their huge defeat in november? >> i think more than anything something tom brought out, 71% and in the shows went for president obama. mitt romney did worse than john mccain did amongst hispanics. you remember the talk about self-deportation. john mccain said it over the weekend saying look, we can't win nationally. republicans can't win nationally if we're perceived as anti-hispanic and that's the than republicans now get. >> -- and that's the rap that republicans now get. >> we've heard opposition calling this amnesty or essentially allowing illegal activity. how likely do you think this is to pass both houses? >> this is a set of principles where the eight senators came through. the devil is always in the details in the legislation and the key stumbling block is when or how do you measure whether they've made the necessary security border guarantees so they can go forward? but this is a break-through saying 11 million people who are here illegally we're going to create a path way to citizenship. we're going to be tough on allowing any more illegal immigration and let's see if house republicans and for that matter, some house democrats buy that compromise. >> we know the president was criticized a bit last year for not pushing this forward fast enough. how committed is he to this plan? >> he said over the weekend to a group of hispanic leaders that this is his no. 1 legislative priority. >> all right. fox 5 political analyst mark plotkin, thanks so much for coming in. >> thanks, shawn. a developing story in turkey tonight, a new york city woman missing after traveling overseas alone. sarai sierra never made it to her flight. they're looking at security camera footage from the area where she stayed. the 33-year-old made the trip alone after a friend canceled the last minute. >> it's hard having to leave my kids behind, but this is their mom. this is my wife. this is my girl of so many years. >> her husband and her brother are traveling to istanbul to help with the search. a washington redskins player left hawaii after a bar fight kept him out of the pro bowl. trent williams was reportedly hit in the head with a champagne bottle and shocked with a stun gun. williams does not face charges, but he needed stitches. the nfl kept him on the sidelines for the game. he got to keep his pro bowl status and pay. it's not what you'd expect to see on the menu, why an event tonight featured a snake fish entree. >> and a truck flips over and almost hits a biker, the story behind this incredible video coming up next. toyota passes gm again. the japanese automaker is officially the top car company in the world selling more than 9.7 million vehicles last year. toyota first overtook gm in 2008 but lost that lead two years ago when a tsunami in japan closed down some of its factories. meantime there's a sale at j.c. penney's again, one year after the struggling retailer got a new ceo and ditched all discount sales in favor of a low pricing plan, it's bringing the sales back. turns out a lot of shoppers went away when the discounts went away. barnes & noble is closing the books on a lot of its stores. amid the surging popularity of e books the company saying it could shut down 1/3 of its locations over the next 10 years and that investment in college may not be paying off right now. a new study shows nearly half of working americans who graduated from a university have a job that does not require a four-year degree. that's business. i'm dennis neil. >> this fox 5 stock market report is brought to you by your lexus dealer. live life heroically. i got it when we could download an hd movie in like two minutes. 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[ male announcer ] progresso. you gotta taste this soup. of green giant vegetables it's easy to eat like a giant... ♪ and feel like a green giant. ♪ ho ho ho ♪ green giant a very close call for a motorcyclist who narrowly escaped serious injury in china today. the biker stopped at a traffic light, has to quickly get out of the way as a tractor trailer flipped over in the intersection. he came very close to hitting some cars. amazingly no one was hurt. a small plane crashed into new york's hudson river yesterday evening near yonkers. two people were on board the single engine plane. when it hit the water, the victims put on their life vests because the plane began sinking. >> we're in the water. we're filling up. we're going to have to bail. all right. the plane definitely we're going down. we're going down. okay. the water is freezing. ing. >> i'm sorry? >> i'm not going to make it to shore. >> okay. we have an officer en route and we have a boat near. >> the man and woman were in the water for about a half hour until the police boat rescued them. the couple is now being treated for hypothermia. here's some stories we're working on for the news edge at 11:00. >> this is my dog. i was a mess. it was maybe a month before christmas. >> a dog lover gets the surprise of her life when she is reunited with a best friend from her past after a long agonizing 10 years apart. >> plus one stinky potty policy, why the male students at one pennsylvania high school aren't allowed to use the bathroom whenever they want. we'll explain. wx maryland state fishery experts and a local seafood wholesaler are teaming up to fight the explosive growth of a monstrous growth in the potomac. they're thinning out the population of the dreaded snake head fish and it may require human intervention. >> reporter: tony and joe's seafood place in georgetown, not where you'd expect to find the infamous chinese snake head fish. >> you'll have to describe what the people are eating. >> reporter: at a special benefit fair some of our area's most prominent chefs showed off their skis at making snake fish palatable. maryland state natural resource officials and seafood wholesaler pro fish are kicking off a campaign to raise awareness about an invasive species that's become a local nuisance. >> they're what we call an apex predator, top of the food chain, go after everything and they have no natural predators themselves. >> reporter: they are not a pretty fish. >> they have fins like a regular fish and they can breathe out of water. so they're since in mud slithering like a snake or they're out of the water. so that's where they got the connotation they can walk. >> reporter: here's a novel idea, knock down their population size by serving them up for dinner. >> this is one of our strategies to get rid of them and get them out of the water. >> reporter: nfl hall of famer and former redskin john riggins was down with the program there to tape a segment of his tv show riggo on the range. >> joe thiesmann is calling the plays. >> reporter: he agrees there maybe only one way to reduce the snake fish population. >> i think it's a great way to deal with it. as the slogan goes, if you can't beat it, eat it. >> reporter: chad wells, executive chef at the rockfish in annapolis has a special recipe. >> i took some snake heads, took the skin off and bones out of it and i marinated it in chimi cherry which is a parsley and vinegar,%ly sauce. >> reporter: it looks a lot better -- vinegar and a base saw was. >> reporter: it looks a lot better without that ugly head on it. for now you can only get snake head at a handful of local restaurants, but it may be coming to a seafood market near you soon. karen gray houston, fox 5 news, in georgetown. >> did she say it tastes like chicken? >> she said i was going to chicken. >> a brave soul. >> i think it probably has a better chance of starring in a sci-fi movie with that face. >> i'd be surprised what sea bass look -- you'd be surprised what sea bass looks like. let's talk about that forecast, a bit warmer soon. >> warmer weather for a brief hint of spring, couple days, and then we're back to some cold stump, but i'll take two days, nice to get a break and maybe some less dry air in here. what we had going on this morning, a lot of two-hour delays because there was a touch of freezing rain and sleet around the region. that won't repeat tonight. sorry, kids, you won't get to sleep in tomorrow morning or parents or teachers. we're staying above freezing tonight. there may be a few areas of fog. it does not look like the fog will be real widespread. it is a hint of spring the next two days. most places should get into the 50s tomorrow and mid-60s, maybe some places pushing 70 wednesday. here's the tradeoff, not a lot of sun and there will be some rain and maybe even thunderstorms around wednesday evening and into the overnight hours. some of those storms could be severe and then after that strong front goes through thursday into the weekend we're colder again. there could be some snow showers floating around. that's why we've got a little bit of everything in this forecast here for this last week of january. for tomorrow 54 degrees, more clouds than sun, perhaps a little fog to start the day. i also have to say some of you might not get to 54 because there's still a little wedge of colder air trying to hang in especially north and east, but wednesday as a very strong front approaches, we think mid- 60s will be doable in the afternoon and again down to our south, some places near 70 and the evidence of that showing up on the high temperature map today, d.c. only 44 and the colder air lingering in boston at 31. you get to nashville, the high temperature today was 60 degrees. it was 74 in st. louis, how about that? big spike for january. 74 for wichita, 79 dallas and behind that more cold air. so the cold air out west, we'll get a little bit of that warm stuff pushed our direction. today we had some showers lingering and up to our north boston getting a little snow and freezing rain for new york as well. we are clearing out. we do have some clouds that will hang tough. i don't think we'll see anything more in the way of precipitation, but tomorrow night there could be a spot of drizzle because this kind of wedge of cold air tries to hang out a little bit at night. temperature now still 44 degrees. it's been stuck at that a number of hours. so it hasn't dropped. fredericksburg is 53 degrees, winchester 52. we are surrounded by air trying to warm up as the warm front moves through the region, but some of you might not get so lucky. it may stay 34 degrees in frederick tonight, 38 38 d.c. and a little fog here and there. this warm front might keep you in the mason dixon area a little chill her. sometimes these warm fronts take -- chillier. sometimes these warm fronts take forever to come through. here is our strong front wednesday, pushes a lot of warm air direction and will fire up a line of thunderstorms because there's cold air behind this one. as that cold frontal boundary pushes on through there's even the risk that some of the thunderstorms we see wednesday night into the first part of thursday in the overnight hours could be strong to severe with heavy rain and also very strong winds. we're expecting a pretty severe weather outbreak tomorrow night across louisiana and arkansas. we'll see how that pans out. for wednesday morning clouds around, maybe a touch of fog here and there. pausing this wednesday jump ahead till 5:00 wednesday and look at the squall line from all the way through pennsylvania down into virginia and even into the carolinas. what does that do to us? it holds together according to our futurecast for friday evening, swings through by wednesday night and then back in the colder stuff to end the week. your fox 5 accuweather seven- day forecast, enjoy the milder temperatures, a little hint of spring and as we close out january and say hello to february, we've got groundhog day on tap, 37 degrees we think for saturday. super bowl is sunday. i think new orleans will be in the 70s. we'll be in the 30s, good thing we're not doing it here. there could be snow showers into thursday and friday, but we don't think it will be anything real heavy at this point, but back to the cold stuff by the end of the week. >> thanks, sue. spiking of the super bowl -- speaking of the super bowl that is the face of the ravens, franchise linebacker ray lewis talking to the thousands of fans who showed up for a super bowl sendoff rally in baltimore. lewis is retiring the end of this season. he says he plans to bring back the super bowl trophy to charm city. >> did this in 2000 and we're not going to new orleans for nothing else but to bring back another ring back to baltimore where it belongs. we love you. we love you. we love you. we're going to give you everything we got. baltimore, we love you. >> after the rally the team flew to new orleans. super bowl xlvii will be played this sunday. the ravens are facing the nfc champs, san francisco 49ers. even if you aren't a die hard ravens or 49ers fan, you're likely to cheer for one team over the other. fox 5's beth parker found out many people in our region who follow other teams during the regular season plan to cheer for the ravens on sunday. >> reporter: on the surface this man can seem a little conflicted. on the wall of his northwest office there's a photo of d.c. right next to it a picture of the empire state building in his native new york. >> first brooklyn and then queens. >> reporter: steve strauss is a new yorker transplanted to d.c., but his football liabilities lie somewhere in between. he grew up a giants fan. when he came here -- >> i would actually go to a few games at rfk stadium and every time i did i would try to root for the redskins but wound up not. >> reporter: eventually he rallied around the baltimore ravens. he bought season tickets to home games in 1999. >> i would go to bars and i'd see redskins jerseys all over and there are other bars in this area that are all steeler bars or green bay packer bars. where are the ravens fans? >> reporter: so he started a group in northern virginia for ravens fans. >> we're actually at 237 members. >> reporter: they meet for away games at rock bottom brewery in arlington. they don't get heckled much. >> i was out yesterday wearing a ravens hat. somebody ran by and gave me a thumbs up. >> reporter: that's what it's like to be a ravens fan around here, but what if you're a die hard redskins fan? then what do you do on super bowl sunday? >> san francisco. >> reporter: why? >> i'm just not a baltimore fan. >> reporter: baltimore is not that far way from d.c. so why not still a home team? >> i really don't want to get into too much discussion, but just some of the people on the team i don't like. >> reporter: how long you been a redskins fan? >> 1975. >> reporter: that's a long time. >> yes. >> reporter: who you rooting for in the super bowl? >> have to go with the hometown ravens, baltimore just because i live in maryland now and they're the closest thing to the redskins. >> reporter: but skins fans are still waiting to see this guy, their superstar, in a super bowl. in washington beth parker, fox 5 news. coming up next chris brown once again under police investigation, details of the alleged fight with singer frank ocean. >> next at 11:00 a heads up if you use mastercard or visa, who doesn't, the new credit card fee next on the news edge. 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ArkansasUnited-statesLouisianaIstanbulTurkeyNevadaAustraliaChadArlingtonTexasBrooklynNew-york together, we've saved a lot of lives by our collective action. >> the trump white house's push to restart the economy in contrast to that warning from dr. anthony fauci of serious consequences if states reopen too soon. good morning and welcome to "morning joe." it is wednesday, may 13th along with joe, willie and me we have white house reporter for "the associated press" jonathan lemire. more now from dr. anthony fauci during yesterday's senate hearing that if the economy opens prematurely it could lead to more cases, deaths, and a slower economic recovery. >> there is a real risk that you will trigger an outbreak that you might not be able to control, in, in fact, paradoxically will set you back not only leading to some suffering and death that could be avoided, but could even set you back on the road to trying to get economic recovery. because it would almost turn the clock back rather than going forward. that is my major concern, senator. >> dr. fauci, you have advised six presidents. you have battled deadly viruses for your [ inaudible ] career. so i'd like to hear your honest opinion. do we have the coronavirus contained? >> senator, thank you for the question. right now it depends on what you mean by containment. if you think that we have it completely under control, we don't. if you look at the dynamics of the outbreak, we are seeing a diminution of hospitalizations and infections in some places, such as in new york city which has plateaued and starting to come down, new orleans. but in other parts of the country we are seeing spikes. so when you look at the dynamics of new cases, even though some are coming down, the curve looks flat with some slight coming down. so i think we're going in the right direction, but the right direction does not mean we have by any means total control of this outbreak. >> you know, willie, donald trump and some of his more extreme supporters have been presenting a false choice to america, which is we can either worry about the virus or we can worry about reopening the economy. and right now we have to worry about reopening the economy because of the 30 million jobs that the president -- jared says the president feels responsible for. also, he should feel the burden of 82,000 deaths, not that he could have prevented all of those deaths, but that should also be weighing obviously on his mind. but, dr. fauci underlines such an important point that -- that i think is lost by donald trump and some of his more extreme supporters and some of those politicians on capitol hill and some of those militia members that are brandishing military-style weapons or standing in front of barber shops to open early. and as dr. fauci says, yes, there's a risk that you trigger more outbreaks that cause more sickness and more death, but also on the economic side of things, y things, you risk future outbreaks that set economic economy back, set return to greatness back. you know, the white house used to understand actually for a time there after the study came out from imperial college that this was a medical crisis and that until medical crisis was taken care of there would always be an economic crisis. i think they still understand that, but they have a president who is so impatient that he's looking past the future outbreaks. and there's an attitude, yes, people are going to die, as the president has said. he doesn't understand that's going to set us back more economically as we move forward. because americans aren't going to go get a hamburger if there's an outbreak and people are dying. it's just, again, it's not an either/or choice. >> no, it's not an either/or choice. and jared's right to say that the president has a responsibility to his 30 million americans. but that includes thinking about their long-term future. and i understand it's difficult to see the long term when there's so much pain in the short-term you want to rush people back to work. but dr. fauci's testimony yesterday actually wasn't anything different than he's been saying all along, which is that if we rush back too quickly he fears we trigger another outbreak. and, as you say, that doesn't just have public health consequence particulars has economic consequences. you open, rush everybody back then you've got to close down again. that's doubly bad for workers and small businesses. jonathan lemire, we saw out in the open yesterday, this contrast, this divide between the president and his doctors. the president up in the rose garden two days ago talking about how we've got to get back, we have to get back to work, transition to greatness is his new line he's using on twitter, we've got to get everybody back to work. and dr. fauci in that senate hearing calmly explaining why he has real concerns. the president and governors get to make those decisions, but the advice of drs. fauci and beneficiaries will have to weigh heavily on his decision. >> you're right, the testimony we heard yesterday -- i'm working on it -- the testimony we heard yesterday, from all the officials, but particular dr. fauci, was like a bucket of cold water on what the president -- his relentless tone of late to try to push the nation to restart and the economy to reopen on a number of points. and dr. fauci wasn't dealing with politics, he never once said in these words that the president was wrong, he didn't turn to any sort of attacks. in fact, he was very careful the way he spoke, as he always is, and he stuck to the principles and the guidelines, and the science, and the medicine. and there are a few clear warning signs. he suggested that a vaccine which the president has been suggesting suddenly might be available by year's end, he said could be a year or two or more away. he suggested that when pressed by senator rand paul in a rather contentious exchange, you know, he said that while the scientists believe if you have covid-19 you'll have immunity afterwards that you'll recover, that they didn't know that for certain just yet. he tried to pump the brakes on the ideas that schools could resume this fall, universities in particular. and then on one thing that was particularly striking is that he talked about the death count. and we've heard the president, we've now well over 80,000, and the president privately has been suggesting he thinks that's too high. he believes those numbers are inflated. he's cast a little bit of doubt on this private publicly but privately even more so suggesting that the media were trying to pump the numbers up and make him look bad. dr. fauci went in the other direction saying we probably have a significant undercount number of deaths, that it's far higher than those that we know and that some american deaths will never perhaps ever be accounted for, but they were to be blamed on this virus. >> well, if you talk to doctors, if you talk to nurses, if you talk to people who are actually on the front lines and not politicians who are trying to score political points. >> yeah. >> they will all tell you that they think that there is an undercount. if you talk to local officials, they will say the same thing. ems workers will say the same thing, that they found people dead in their apartments, dead in their homes that didn't come to the hospital because they were afraid to come to the hospital and apparently died of covid-19. >> some were turned away. >> and, yes, some were turned away, some were sent back home. but you know, mika, the president talks about how he's a war time president and this is like a war. >> yeah. >> you know, yesterday the dichotomy between what dr. fauci was saying and what the president was saying brought to mind that something ronald reagan's defense secretary came up with,a t and it was called t weinberger doctrine and talked about the things that were required before america went to war. cole len powell updated it later. you needed public support. because if you didn't have public support you'd end up in a quagmire like vietnam. this is a war. and we're at the same place here. majority of the poles show that americans still understand it's not safe yet to go back into restaurants. >> for sblur ure. >> to go back into baseball games. as much as we'd all love to go to baseball games and flood in restaurants. americans aren't safe. you look at gretchen whitmer in michigan, she's doing extremely well. mike dewine doing better than anybody else in ohio, he's balancing this every day. he's not saying we have to kick down the doors and reopen the economy. and so while, again, the president's trying to rush this, again, he has to have support of the american people because if you don't, then, you know, you can look at the experience of brian kemp in georgia who has extraordinarily low approval ratings for how he's handling this crisis. and part of that just has to do with the fact that georgians feel like he's rushing in there. so the president, of course, doesn't understand this. and i guess he's not going to understand this. but, without public support, without americans feeling like they're safe to going go back to restaurants, safe to go back to malls, safe to go back to baseball games, they're not going to do that. and it doesn't matter what a -- an isolated politician inside the white house or inside a governor's mansion says. >> right. so, willie, exactly what joe was saying is that what the president doesn't understand is that when you use phrases like transition to greatness and we have prevailed and you have a lockdown happening, you're in the face of a lockdown, everybody's in it together. and it's invalidating to the people who are impacted. and whort peop and who are the people impacted? literally everyone. literally everyone is going through this and they need honesty. they don't need phrases that completely don't match their reality. >> yeah, and there were a couple of decisions yesterday, mika, that underline your point and that underline the point that it's not up to the president. they're both in the state of california state university system nearly half a million students, 23 campuses, announcing now in mid-may that they will not hold on-campus classes this fall. so these universities and institution dollars wi institutions will have to make their own decisions about keeping people safe. the other has the l.a. county health commissioner saying we're going to keep our stay at home orders in place for another three months with some phased-in, they hope, relaxing of the standards over that time. but these are places, these are localities, universities deciding for themselves. we're not taking our cues from donald trump, we're doing what we have to do to keep keep safe. let's bring in a practicing physician, also a professor of medicine at harvard medical school. good morning. your take on the testimony we heard yesterday from dr. fauci from the director of the cdc as well. does it line one where you are in terms of opening? obviously politicians will make these decisions at the end of the day, governors and municipalities, but do you agree with dr. fauci? do you have his concern? do you share it about triggering some kind of an outbreak if there's a rush back to open society? >> good morning, willie. you know, what dr. fauci said yesterday, i think pretty much all health professionals agree with, is that the virus makes the timeline here. and you can't -- you know, you can't sort of happy talk the virus, you can't talk about prevailing against the virus unless you've actually managed to do so. and the evidence right now is based on the president's own guidelines for opening up is that majority of states are not there. most states are not there. and if you decide you're going to blow by that and go ahead and could doh do it anyway, there will be a resurgence. this is not a political desire. this is not people trying to be critical of the president. this is the reality of the virus as we best understand it. and i think what we heard from dr. fauci was a real concern. and i think it was echoed by the others as well. not as clearly what's we heard from dr. fauci, but the others. essentially we're all saying the same thing. we have to let science drive this. >> so it seems like there's this focus on this controversy which the science just cancels out. if we don't want a resurgence, we can't have 80,000 people or 40,000 people dying again, dr. shaw. so what is the way forward to safely reopen and high is it so ha hard to understand that when we're talking about basic science? >> what's really interesting is i believe, like, if you listen to the republicans and democrats, there was pretty wide consensus, again, the words were a little different between the republicans and democrats, but pretty wide consensus among senators that we really need a national roadmap. and in some ways you could argue that the white house plan for opening up america again was that, was a start of that and it was pretty good, it was pretty science driven. and i think you heard from was the frustration that the administration has abandon its own plans and gone off of where science is, and that be can only lead to bad places. so a new analysis by "the associated press" revealed that even as president trump urges getting people back to work and reopening the economy, thousands of people are getting sick from covid-19 on the job. according to data compiled by the ap, recent figures show a surge of infections in meat packing and pouttltry processin plants and state prisons. there's been a spike of new cases among construction workers in austin, texas, where that sector recently returned to work. in the federal prison system the number of positive cases has increased steadily. as of may 5th, there were 2,066 inmates who tested positive up from 730 on april 25th. tennessee had the highest per capita rate, had nearly 1300 inmates and 50 staffers recently test positive at the privately run center. the number two county was nobles county in minnesota which now has 1100 cases compared to 2 in mid-april. the county seat is home to a pork processing plant in employs hundreds of immigrants. dr. j requeha, the way the virus with people getting sick, when you have them working together, not wearing masks, this virus can't be contained unless it's isolated or what is the other route? >> so, you know, mika, when you see those case thas that you ju brought up, whenever you put large numbers of people together you're going to get outbreaks. especially if the underlying rate in the community is pretty large. right now most people are staying at home. but when people start going back to the office, what's been happening in meat packing plants, what's been happening at construction sites, you're going to see more of those happening in auftss in offices. how do we know that? the white house has seen its own outbreak and they're doing testing every single day. the point is that we can't ever go back to work, we can. but we need to substantially lower the risk of outbreaks within offices, within factories, and that requires substantial testing. it requires low levels of transition. it requires people wearing masks. this is not rocket science, and we can do this, but we need a national -- the roadmap from the white house explaining what we need to do, not happy talk about how we've conquered the virus. we haven't. >> dr., thank you so much for coming on early this morning. very much appreciate it. >> and, jonathan lemire, i guess that's what's so frustrating and the frustrating actually to some republican senators and democrats as well certainly has to be frustrating to dr. fauci and other medical experts and scientists who are advising the president, they have a roadmap. they laid out a national roadmap. the president went out and embraced that roadmap as his own. and immediately after doing that, he began undercutting it and is encouraging states to not follow white house guidelines. so what's the current status of those white house guidelines that anthony fauci talked about again yesterday that the president announced a couple of weeks ago? are they applicable? are they not applicable? has the president -- has the president discounted them openly yet? or is he discounting those white house guidelines privately? where do we stand there? >> jared's comment sort of tipped the hand, if you will, joe, where the focus has certainly been more about the economic impact of late than the public health impact. this is a president whose inner circle both in the white house and his campaign team are very anxious and unhappy about where things stand with the economy. they were certainly dismayed by the jobs report, the unemployment rate that was released last week. and that is -- >> but, jonathan, excuse me for interrupting. i understand that's where the focus is. >> right. >> but do they not understand, is there anybody in the president's inner circle that is explaining to him that if he doesn't listen to dr. fauci, if he doesn't listen to health care experts, if he doesn't listen to doctors, if he doesn't listen to nurses, if he rushes in too quickly and if he ignores his own guidelines that he laid out to the public, then as dr. fauci says he causes another wave of infections which sets our recovery back even more. is there anybody in the white house that is explaining this basic reality to the president? >> the short answer is not really. you are having some of the public health officials like dr. fauci and dr. birx are saying that publicly but also privately in the situation room in the task force meetings chaired by the vice president. meetings, mind you, the president himself usually doesn't attend. but those are happening less frequently. even within the building there's the focus towards the economy, less of the public health. there are some congressional allies and outside advisers who are still warning the president about how devastating it would be if there were a major flare-ups again over the summer or, indeed, that second wave that dr. fauci yesterday again said he believes is coming. that there will be a second wave this fall and that that, of course, would devastate the economy in addition to costing thousands of americans their lives. the president has, on occasion, bent to the public health advice. he did most famously of course when he backed off his idea of reopening the country by easter. instead he pushed it back a few weeks. but the cdc guidelines were created. states haven't met the threshold to reopen, but the white house is not stopping them either. in some ways that's because the white house is putting the onus, again, on the states so if things go bad perhaps the president can blame others for what happened rather than himself. which is sort of par for the course throughout this particular crisis. but the -- while lastly as a key point, he's been told time and time again that they can't safely reopen until there is the widespread testing. and certainly that has improved, in that monday press conference in the rose guard than ended rather contentiously, there was certainly -- there is good news there, testing is better than it was. but it's not nearly high enough in order to really safeguard americans to go back to work. that's the point senator romney made yesterday during his testimony. he was very crit kaflt administraticritical of the nation's ability to test as much as needed. >> but the problem here when you have this controversy, it's almost fauci versus the president's point of view on this. science versus the president. this argument over how to reopen is taking the focus away from trying to solve the problem or safely muddle through it. and it be always consistently highlights one thing, that the president is repeatedly wrong. that he's either speaking aspirationally or falsely or dangerously. and every time the controversy comes up and the white house counters the science and people inside the white house get sick because they can't even contain it in their own ranks -- >> they won't wear masks. >> -- because they're so busy focussed on opening that they get it, they're showing to the american -- and it just -- the politics of this is what i don't understand. because if trump is masterful at one thing it would be on branding and rebranding and just stamping on the truth to move forward for himself. and he's constantly tripping on himself and showing to the american people just how wrong he has been every step of the way. >> well, and it hasn't caught up with him, not only over the past 3 1/2, 4 years, it hasn't caught up with him for his entire life until now. and because the president has been wrong so much, because the president's been lying so much in his briefings, because the president's been saying since january that there's nothing to worry about, that this is going to magically go away, jonathan brings up a good point. sometimes the president's lying and the president's magical thinking actually obscures the fact that we are making some progress over time. why? because we're america. because we've got the biggest economy in the world. because we've got the greatest scientists in the world. because we've got the greatest doctors in the world. because we've got the greatest universities in the world. we're going -- it does remind me of winston -- what winston churchill once again, which is that americans will always do the right thing, will always do the right thing after they've exhausted all -- every other possibility. we're going to get there. testing is starting to improve. not because of the president, you know, they've been lying to us. mike pence and the president have good going o have been going out lying to us about how many tests we were going to have. but even with washington not working -- >> yeah. >> -- americans are slowly starting to catch up. but the president's lies are slowly starting to catch up with him. you can lie about robert mueller and can he lie about the fbi, he can call the fbi thugs, he can lie about ukraine, you can lie about that and people don't care. most people -- it's like, come on, that's washington stuff, i don't want to hear about it. that's -- that's the democrats benghazi. i'm worried about getting my kids to college, i'm worried about keeping my job, i'm worried about all this other stuff. but when the president's lying about something that is so central to americans' life, health specifically their health, the life and the death of their parents or their grandparents or their children, and they focus. and there has been a tremendous cost. and you look at the cnn poll that came out yesterday, and only 36% of americans trust information that the president gives them about the coronavirus. 62% do not trust the information the president of the united states is giving about the most challenging crisis americans have faced since world war ii. and you see that in public and private polling. you look at wisconsin, a poll that came out yesterday, seniors by an overwhelming margin have abandoned donald trump and are now supporting joe biden. why? because donald trump's just not telling them the truth about this health care pandemic. >> yeah, the spread in that wisconsin poll among seniors was plus 18 for joe biden over donald trump. >> that's amazing. >> here's the number right there, marquette poll. plus 18 among voters 60 and over. should open some eyes in the white house. but, yes, donald trump, the problem for him is that this has visited people's lives. and in that same cnn poll that you referenced, about 40% of americans say they know someone personally who's been impacted or contracted coronavirus. so he can't wish it away because it's in people's homes and hospitals and the businesses and their communities. and this is not up to him. he doesn't know what do because at the end of the day it's not up to him. he can put pressure on governors. he can tweet liberate michigan. but at the end of the day, the governors in those states are going to do what's best for their citizens, despite any pressure they might feel. governor kemp probably felt some pressure in the state of georgia. he's suffering because of that. his poll numbers are terrible. his approval rating. so donald trump has something in front of him that he can't control by his actions really right now or his rhetoric, something that he wants to do, which is to reopen the country. it will be up to the american people to decide when that happens. >> all right. coming up on "morning joe," the speaker of the house nancy pelosi is our guest. plus, is vladimir putin well on his way to stealing the next election? we've got the author of that revealing new piece in the atlantic. and later, how american democracy is going digital from dr. fauci's testimony to joe biden's live stream. there's 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xfinity.com/prepare. atlantic. atlantic. atlantic. atlantic. we're on the campaign trail now and everybody says biden's hiding. let me tell you something, we're doing very well. we're following the guidelines of the medical profession, we're following the guidelines of the experts, of the dr. fauci's of the world. we're doing very well. matter of fact, we're winning if you look at all the polling data. i'm not saying that's going to last till november, i don't know enough to know that. but right now the idea that somehow we are being hurt by my keeping to the rules and following the instructions that are -- that have been put forward by the docs is absolutely bizarre. i reject the premise that somehow this is hurting us. there's no evidence of that. i'm following the rules. following the rules. the president should follow the rules instead of showing up at places without masks and the whole -- the whole thing. >> i'm sorry -- >> he's just so -- >> he wins that every time. >> yeah, checkmate. >> he wins that. >> checkmate. >> every time. >> yeah. >> willie, i understand the president and people -- some people inside the white house, most of them understand they're whistling past a political gr h graveyard. but donald trump snubbing doctors' advice in the middle of a pandemic that's killed over 80,000 people, we have new estimates it's going to kill 140,000, 150,000 people after donald trump snubbed doctors' advice early on and said this was nothing to worry about, he loses to a dude who says, hey, i'm going to follow the doc's advice. because guess what? most americans are following their doc's advice. following the advice of the doctors. i mean, joe biden's right. doesn't matter if you're republican or democrat, he's doing what most americans are doing. he's not showing one semiautomatic weapons and military style weapons trying to open up barber shops or not showing up in the michigan legislature with semiautomatic weapons to try to make a political show. he's not getting out in public, not wearing a mask to make a political show of it. people understand, they see what happens to people inside the white house when everybody else around them's wearing a mask but they're not. guess what thaps happens to the hold on, hold on. guess what happens? >> wait for it. >> they get coronavirus. you have to follow your doctor's advice on the most deadly pandemic in over a century. it's that simple. willie, biden wins that contest every day of the week. >> yeah. and for people insisting that joe biden get out and campaign, it's not clear where they would like him to go out and campaign. go on a rope line in scranton there's not going to be anybody on the other side of that rope booin li line. he's doing what the doctors said he should do. the concerns, and they're from democrats, reflect the larger concern and the urgency they feel of beating donald trump and they want to make sure that joe biden and his campaign are doing everything possible in every moment to make sure they win. because, jonathan lemire, despite the way the president has performed during this pandemic, he's going to be a tough opponent in the fall, democrats know that, and he has raised a ton of money quietly over the last few months, much more than the biden campaign and democrats have. >> no question, willie. the president's campaign manager brad parse sc scal said they'vet the death star and they're going to unleash a series of attacks against joe biden. perhaps he didn't see how the movie end and what happened to the death star, but what we're seeing here is they do have the financial advantage. although the biden kfrp dcamp de a good fundraising quarter. they've got a long way to go, trump had a huge start. but we are stheeg freeing that biden. we talked about a story last night, she's saying voters don't give a blank where he's filming from, it's how they connect with voters. and we've been reminiscing about kinley's porch campaign the last few days and that's where -- >> yes. >> we have been. we've been talking about it perhaps more than we should. but that's where joe biden is right now. fe they fe they feel he needs to stay home. he's following the guidelines, taking precautions, he's taking his own safety seriously and those around him. but he's trying to set an example for the public, and of course, there's a political vance advanta advantage here. they realize the best thing they can do is get out of druronald trump's way. he went to arizona, he's slated to go to pennsylvania, allentown, not too far from scrantton. but we saw after he occur taltd briefings, he had one again on monday, it devolved into myth truths. and the biden camp right now, they're very comfortable with where they. they're very comfortable with the vice president for now staying home. they know it will get harder. they know this summer and fall he'll have to engage more with the president who will be a tough opponent. but right now, they're happy to keep him in his basement. >> and, you know, willie, i remember, gosh, several years ago, maybe in 2008, maybe even earlier than that, peggy noonen was talking about how she would like to see a candidate do a front porch campaign and talked about why it would be so effective. alex reminds me that mike barn knack wil barnacle's campaign, his campaign is get off my porch campaign. not quite as effective yelling at the kids. >> he's been running that campaign for his whole life, joe. >> yeah. >> i actually think joe biden's basement campaign provides such a stark contrast to the circus, to the ridiculous, horrific side show that the president puts on almost on a daily basis, consistently wrong, consistently dangerous, consistently mean, consistently often bullying people and even sometimes with a splash of racism just to distract. >> just a dash. >> just a dash. just a dash. and honestly arguing whether or not joe biden is doing enough, when he's doing exactly the right thing which is following the guidelines and truly wishing this president was doing a better job and was focused on the pandemic, truly from the bottom of his heart worried about this. what more can he do but step aside and let this ridiculous you know what show play out. because the american people can see it. it's the same argument about showing the briefings. it's revealing to the american people what they've gotta as a president. >> tom nichols tweeted please, please keep doing the briefings every day, mr. president is one who fwoonts see t who wants to see the president lose. tom and a lot of others understand the truth, as do the president's white house staff, as do the president's campaign members, as do the president's financial supporters that him holding those briefings hurt him and hurt his political standing and hurt republicans as well. so, you know, campaigns are about contrast. >> yeah. >> right now you have a guy who's supposed to be in charge who has said he's like a war-time president thumbing his nose at all the rules. which maybe people thought that was cool during the 2016 campaign to talk about beating up people, having them beat up people and then pay for their legal fees. maybe they thought, oh, he's shaking things up. they don't feel that way and they shouldn't have felt that way in 2016. they don't feel that way now when it's not some poor protester that's getting beaten up, it's their mom or their dad or their grandparents or their children or their own lives. >> yeah. >> that are at risk. >> the argument that the white house is making right now is we must open up the economy in the middle of a pandemic with no testing and no vaccine on a mass level. >> they should listen to dr. fauci -- >> great. >> they should listen to dr. fauci. >> i know but that's their position. >> follow the white house guidelines, and testing is improving. testing needs to continue improving. they need to do the testing and the tracing and the isolating and the treatment, all the things that people have been talking about for months. coming up on "morning joe." >> we don't know everything about this virus and we really better be very careful, particular whether i it comes to children. because the more and more we learn, we're seeing things that this virus can do that we didn't see in the studies from china or in europe. for example right now, children presenting with covid 16 -- covid-19 who have a strange inflammatory syndrome very similar to kawasaki's syndrome. i think we better be careful if we are not cavalier in thinking that children are completely immune to the de immune to the deleterious effects. >> we'll talk about that next on "morning joe." >> we'll talk about that next on "morning joe." our members understand social distancing. being prepared and overcoming challenges. usaa has been standing with them for nearly a hundred years. and we'll be here to serve you for a hundred more. ♪ you're constantly weakening that enamel structure. pronamel repair allows more 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covid-19 and how concerned should parents be about their children getting this? how prevalent is it? >> it's still rare, mika. this is a condition that comes on typically weeks after the symptoms of covid-19 go away. if there were symptoms at all. most of the kids that have this either test positive for the covid virus, for the coronavirus, or they test positive even more of them for the antibodies. and this is something as even dr. fauci just mentioned, is similar to kawasaki syndrome which is a vascular disease. it's an inflammatory disorder of the blood vessels and it affects multiple organs at the same time. it's usually not fatal, but as we know now there are at least three children in the state of new york that have died and there are now nine more states that have patients, young kids typically, but up to 18 years of age have been identified so far that have this pediatric multisystem inflammatory syndrome associated with covid-19. mika. >> so i'm just curious, thinking outloud here, but the relationship that this has to covid-19, does that raise any questions about the coronavirus that there could be other sin dro syndromes that will pop schnupp what do ? what does this tell us. >> this tells us there's an immune response that will target the blood vessels and organs in general because every or zban supplied by blood and has blood vessels, so it's an immune response that comes after the virus has typically resolved. it doesn't suggest that we should be thinking of other similar syndromes, but it does link back to kawasakis. and even toxic shock, does have some symptoms to it, although toxic shock is the aftermath of a bacterial infection. this is the aftereffect. it's telling us that children are not as immune to disease and problems even as we thought even a month ago. >> i want to ask you about antigen testing, but let me go over the symptoms for parents. it's prolonged fever lasting more than five days, severe abdominal pain, diarrhea, vomiting, patchy blue, pale skin discoloration, trouble breathing and rapid breathing, lethargy and a fast heart rate. that's signs of the syndrome that have come up in kids and three children that we know of have died. the fda has given emergency authorization for new antigen testing to help detect the coronavirus quicker and cheaper. where does this fit in the grand scheme of testing and all the confusion out there? because we have so many different states and entities competing with themselves. >> this is a good natural progression of the scientific efforts. so this new testing that just got approved is allowing this particular company to take a look at pieces of the protheens co proteins that come out of or are part of the coronavirus. it is a rapid test and it's extremely accurate. when this test is positive, you basically can are sure that you have covid-19. if the test is negative, you can't be sure and you still have to wait on the more sensitive test results from the pcr test. but that takes typically hours or even days. so this new test is very important because it's inexpensive, it can be scaled up rapidly, it can be showing test results within minutes. so if you need the information quickly for treatment purposes, you're in a hospital, you're in an emergency room, this test will come to be very valuable. but don't forget, if it's negative, you still have to wait on the pcr test result which is still the standard that's out there, mika. >> dr. dave campbell, thank you very much. willie. >> welcome. let's bring in dr. steven core with corwin. doctor, good morning. it's good to have you back on the show. i would love a snapshot from you on your hospitals right now. obviously we were all so laser focused on the conditions in your ers and your icus over the last several weeks. if i walked into one of your icus this morning, how different would it look than, say, a month ago? >> well, we're a lot better. at our peak, we had over 800 patients in our icus. we're now down to about 400. which is still a huge amount, but it's half of what we had. and we're down to about 1100 total covid patients, down from a peak of 2,600. so we still have a ways to go, but we feel a lot more secure about this, especially as we see the curve moving down and continuing to move down. so much better. what we have seen, to dr. campbell's pointed, is we now have seen 35 cases of this cmis, this multiinflammatory syndrome in children. 80% of those require icu care. interestingly, 70% of the cases that we've seen are caucasian children, which is unusual in terms of our usual demography. so we don't think this will have a high prevalence, but it's still very worrisome in kids carrying the virus. so we are seeing that. >> what is the connection for people not familiar with that condition that you're describing in children, what's the connection between coronavirus and cmis? >> every one of these kids either test positive for the virus with pcr, the pcr test, or have had the covid virus and test positive for antibodies. so this is clearly related to an inflammatory response to the virus. and in the adults, of course, the hyper immune response is what happens in the lungs. this is a kawasaki-like syndrome. the heart, the kidneys, the brain. so it's very worrisome when these children develop this post covid. >> so if i'm a parent, doctor, and my child has tested positive for coronavirus and maybe recovered now, what am i looking for? because this will put up a lot of red flags for parents whose children have had coronavirus. >> fever, lethargy, abdominal pain, rash, shortness of breath in some cases because it can affect the heart. but typically high fever, led lethargy, rash, and ab dom nado pain. please get to your doctor if you think your child has this syndrome. >> doctor, you've talked quite a bit over the last few weeks about some of the failures in preparation for this pandemic, the things we thought we were ready for, quick testing is one of them. ppe was another one. what now do we learn from what you all have been through and you continue to go through? what has to improve? what has to get better as we confront, perhaps, another outbreak in the fall, but in terms of the next big virus that comes to this country? >> well, a few things. we have to develop rapid and early testing. we've talked about this, because once you have a pandemic, testing and contact tracing is very, very difficult to do. you've got to get the infection rate low to do effective contact tracing. this antigen test will be helpful as we move into the fall. it's very specific. it's not as sensitive as we would like. but when you have flu and covid together, the ability to determine both of those will be helpful. we clearly are going to stockpile ppe into a much greater extent than we did and we're going to make sure that our supply chain is much less fragile. and we're already stockpiling more ventilators in case this resurges in the fall because we know what our ventilator need was and will be. so those are the key things. and as you've talked about earlier, willie, you know, once you have this in the community, you can overwhelm the health care system. so if we opened on may 1st, you're going to see probably by june what the effect of this will be if we've not done it carefully. and that's, of course, what dr. fauci was concerned about yesterday. you can't ignore the scientific fact in the absence of a vaccine or an effective treatment. >> well, we are so grateful for all the work you've done and your doctors, nurses, your health care professionals over the last few months. we continue to wish you good luck. we're thinking about you all in there. president and ceo of new york presbyterian hospital dr. steve corwin. thank you very much. meek archts coming up, a new column says president trump has one overarching goal when it comes to his financial records, slow walk the supreme court until the election is over. rl the justicwill the justices ? 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tests whereas south korea had conducted more than 140,000 tests. so partially as a result of that, they have 256 deaths and we have almost 80,000 deaths. i find our testing record nothing to celebrate whatsoever. >> yeah. welcome back to "morning joe." it's wednesday, may 13th along with joe, willie and me we have chief white house correspondent "the new york times" peter baker. former u.s. senator now an nbc news and msnbc political analysts clair mccaskill. and donny deutsch joins the conversation as well. that was mitt romney just having a hard time with the way he felt the white house testings are, so to speak, sugarcoated the way testing stands in the context of the world in the united states. >> well, you saw him with the president at a recent press conference. >> yeah. >> and he's learning to say the things that you need to say -- >> to survive. >> -- to stay in the president's presence. at the same time, willie, again, because this administration has said so many false things about testing, it is easy to overlook the fact that even without donald trump taking control of this situation, without him using the defense production act, without him using the power of the federal government to do in this pandemic what fdr did during world war ii, you've had great work from private companies. you've had great work from universities. and there are advancements in testing. now, the testing is still, like the abbott labs testing that we've heard so much about, there are reports that, you know, sometimes 15% of those tests are inaccurate. that's a real problem. so we still have a long way to go. but we are making some progress, it would just help if the white house, if the president, if the president's aides would just tell it to the american people straight so they he would have a clear idea about where we stand and where we need to go. because we're event wlually goi to get there. as mitt romney said, the south koreans immediately came together. they had their first case the same day that we had our first case. and as mitt romney said, the results were so divergement testing, the results were so divergent when it came to death tolls there's no comparison between south korea and the united states in how we handled this out of the gate and no one should ever draw those comparisons. >> and the president has moved on from this question. he said outloud two days ago at the white house, we have prevailed on the question of testing. we did it. they had signage made up talking about how they'd accomplished their goals on testing. >> mission accomplished. >> mission accomplished. we've got the most in the world. but as we've seen a million times on this show, as a per capita number we fall way down in world rankings. we just had dr. corwin on, obviously the icus and ers hit hardest by this crisis, he said the biggest failure as we go forward and learn from this was that we thought we could have testing very quickly and that be we would have contact tracing, we would know who had it and isolate those people and move on from it. he said it turns out we didn't. and i think hospitals thought state governments and certainly the federal government would have a quick program to deal with the question of testing. and the fact of the matter is, there was no testing program nationally. there remains no testing program nationally. the president famously said what's the federal government supposed to do, stand on street corners and give out tests? well, it's been -- >> yes. >> yes. >> -- three months now since they had the chance to do that. the assistannswer is yes and ha done it. he's had the chance to use the production act. he's had the chance to launch a national program. but he says now we have prevailed, it's time to move on. >> the president didn't want to talk about this crisis. he didn't want to talk about it in january. he didn't want to listen to his advisers' concerns. he, of course, called the head of hhs -- said he was panicking. he got very angry when other administration officials in mid to late february started telling him the truth about this pandemic, became enraged and -- so we are where we are. and as far as the testing goes, the cdc, president trump's cdc, the trump administration failed miserably when it came to testing. we've talked about it before, but, you know, by the end of february, the fda came in and said to donald trump's cdc, if you were a private company, we would shut you down. and at that point, the fda said, okay, we're going to have to throw it open since the federal government has failed so miserably that the, we're going to have to throw it open now to private companies. that's just for people who don't know, that's how we got to where we are. so when donald trump says this isn't the federal government's domain, he's either ignorant about testing and the history of it, or he's lying. this was in the federal government's domain and the trump administration failed at it. so, again, they just need to start telling us the truth so americans can follow this. so we can figure out where we are in testing and tracing and treatment and isolation and moving forward and opening this economy. everybody knows you want to open the economy and you want to keep it open, because you can open the economy. >> right. >> you're going to open it. but can you keep it open? can you keep people coming to small business owners' restaurants, to family businesses all dotted along whether it's on pensacola beach or whether it's in des moines, iowa, or whether it's, you know, in northern california? can you keep it open? and we've said it, dr. fauci's said it, health care experts have said it, ceos have said it, the president's heard it over and over again. if you want this economy up and running again, you have to have more robust testing. now, will that stop incidents of outbreaks? no, that's not going to stop that. testing's not the be all end all. vaccine's a be all end all. and we could still be 18 months away from that. >> but why is he holding off on using the tpa? >> i don't know. if we're going to do live with this, if we're going to live with the risk that most people are going to ultimately decide we have to live with, the only way to do that and isolate the outbreaks that are sure to come is to have expansive testing and tracing. we need the white house to be honest with us so we can get this economy kick started again. >> here is dr. anthony fauci in his testimony yesterday. >> what i've expressed then and again is my concern that if some areas, cities, states, what have you, jump over those various checkpoints and prematurely open up without having the capability of being able to respond effectively and efficiently, my concern is that we will start to see little spikes that might turn into outbreaks. so therefore, i have been being very clear in my message to try to the best extent possible go by the guidelines which have been very well thought out and very well delineated. there is a relevant ri there is a real risk that you will trigger an outbreak that you ma you may not be able to control which will paradoxically set you back. not leading to suffering and death that could be avoid ready abo but could set you back on getting the economy going. >> dr. fauci, you have advised six presidents. you have battled deadly viruses for your entire career. so i'd just like to hear your honest opinion. do we have the coronavirus contained? >> senator, thank you for the question. right now it depends on what you mean by containment. if you think that we have it completely under control, we don't. if you look at the dynamics of the outbreak, we are seeing a diminution of hospitalizations and infections in some places such as in new york city which has plateau and starting to come down. nurnss. b new orleans. but in other parts of the country we're seeing spikes. so when you look at the number of cases, even though some are coming down, the kirve loocurve flat with some slight coming down. so i think we're going in the right direction. but the right direction doesn't mean by any means we have control of this outbreak. >> peter baker, the science of this and dr. faufrp whichci's t is easy to understand and most of it people knew before he testified before that senate committee. it's hard to reopen without mass robust quick testing and a lot more steps toward a vaccine. and it seems to me that the white house is consistently missing the moment, not meeting it, when it comes to where they could find unity and clarity and a way forward for this country. and that would be on nationalizing the efforts towards getting mass testing to the people. >> yeah, this is a complicated formula that we're talking about here between balancing these big imperatives, that being how best to prevent further deaths and at least minimize them as much as possible while acknowledging that the economy being closed down is also hurting a lot of people and is untenable in the long term. where you find that balance, how you manage to reopen, how you manage to prevent another outbreak of the type that dr. fauci is talking about is the key question here. and what we don't see at this point is a national conversation led by the president really explores these complicated issues in a way that people have confidence in. this is unfortunately a poll lor raised political environment where even if whatever the president were to say, you know, there's not a lot of trust in him on at least part of the population, a lot of the population. and he doesn't seem interested in having that conversation, he just simply wants to be able to push forward and ahead. even though he himself has embraced the cdc guidelines that dr. fauci talked about, many of the states that are reopening are actually, you know, in compliance with those guidelines. they're opening up without the 14 days of declining caseloads that those guidelines call for. and the president has done nothing or said nothing about that. he simply cheer leaded the reopening as fast as possible, even taking elon musk's side against california. wherever possible he is speak out in favor of loosening restrictions rather than maintaining them or finding precautions as you reopen. so he's not leading that conversation in a way that would give public health experts at least the confidence that this can be done without the risk of a major outbreak resuming. >> and, willie, he's not doing it in a way that gives him overwhelming majority of americans confidence. as we saw in a spade of polls. they just don't believe what the president's saying, the vast majority of americans, 63% in a cnn poll yesterday that came out shows that americans don't believe what the president of the united states is saying when it comes to the coronavirus. that obviously makes -- 62%, there we go. 62% do not trust what the president is saying, only 36%, little more than one -- a little more than one out of three americans believe what the president's saying when he talks about the greatest health care crisis of our lifetime. >> yeah. 45% of the people in that poll approve of his job performance. that means a bunch of people who approve of the job that he's doing don't believe the words that are coming out of his mouth when he talks about this pandemic. pretty extraordinary. and we see people do trust their governors by in large much more than they trust the president of the united states. we showed that poll in wisconsin that showed a lot of older voters, 60 and older, are running from the president as they watch him perform. clair mccaskill, it was a real sign of the times hearing with your former senate colleagues yesterday. everyone from home, lamar alexander's dog in the background. we had quarantine beards. you had tim cane looking like he was going to rob a stage coach afterward wearing that bandana around his face. but more importantly, dr. fauci did something he's been doing now for a couple of months, which is to go out and sort of artfully and somewhat delicately and diplomatically contradict everything the president of the united states is saying, the man who he effectively serves on that task force in the white house. he goes out systemically. he was asked about his relationship with president trump. he would have none of that. we get along fine, we have a great relationship, i'm focused on the science. but the science he's focused on and the science he testified about yesterday about the dangers of opening the society run exactly in contrast to the president's message. >> you know, willie, what struck me about that hearing, obviously fauci has gotten very good at delivering the facts and science in spite of the guy who occupies the oval office, not because of him. but what really was weird yesterday is that i think the president was probably pretty upset last night because he refused to let fauci testify in the house and said we'll do a senate hearing. and i think he expected the republican senators to do warm and fuzzy stuff about him, to celebrate donald trump, to say donald trump was wonderful. and one after another alexander started out by saying our testing was insufficient. bird pointed out that they hadn't even filled the positions of cdc for a bio surveillance. kennedy pointed out that the phase two testing and the vaccine apparently doesn't include children. there was, you know, romney, obviously, took a huge swing at the misinformation coming out of the white house. so this was not all hail donald trump he is wonderful, he has got it contained. this really was, in some ways, an old fashioned senate hearing where everyone was making good points about the failures of this administration to do their job, even though it looked weird and it was very strange because you're used to in those hearing rooms being like this, you know. you're so close to each other up on the dais. i thought it was also interesting, some of the senators stayed in their auftofs in the capital rather than walking down to the hearing room. what does that tell you how safe they feel? >> it is interesting. i love what clair just said, it was like an old fashioned senate hearing where, get this, senators were actually more concerned about their constituents than they were about whether donald trump was going to put out a mean tweet about them. you can survive the mean tweets, you can survive the lies, i promise. it's just a tweet. okay. so, donny deutsch, i want you to put on your ceo hat. i want you to put on your business hat, because, you know, through the years, of course, you love to hang out in the hamptons and talk about what a liberal you are because you think it impresses people in the hamptons. a lot of people and your friends in the hamptons. but, i know the truth, and the truth is that you're a democrat, you're a loyal democrat, but you're more -- you're kinda like bill clinton democrat. you're more of a centrist. you're more like a reuben-type democrat. so we've got a balancing act to undergo here. so let's just put to the side what we know, what most americans know. donald trump's not doing a good job with the coronavirus. donald trump's not telling the truth about the coronavirus. we assume all of that, okay. but you know, we can't keep businesses shut down. in fact, we need to figure out how to start moving, get this economy moving again as safely as we can despite the white house failures. so, what does that look like to you? because -- i can just -- i can just tell you, i had a friend of mine saying -- a doctor friend of mine saying back a month ago, i'm not going to be performing surgeries until september. i go, you're going to be performing surgeries in mid to late may. people are -- this is not going to continue. people are going to be patient to a certain extent. donny, i say the same thing to you. like, people aren't going to stay locked up in their houses forever. people aren't going to stay away from restaurants, from commerce forever. so as a ceo, balance this for us. what do we -- we hear dr. fauci and, yes, we have to follow the medical advice. i agree with that. but how do we open safely? how do we open sanely? how do we make sure that -- that a lot of -- that a lot of these absolutist positions are swept aside and we find a middle path forward here? because there is one. >> you know, first you start with the reality of the consumer that i have to understand. it's interesting, an apple tracking showed two states, tennessee, kentucky, one opened, one closed. both have what they call a plus 8% mobility rate. so the consumers are going to decide in the end, that's an example of where one state's open and one's not yet people are moving away the same way, which is rvery, very light. 74% would rather deal with the virus versus 24% open business. understand i'm dealing with a frightened population. and the first thing i do there is honesty and say until there is testing, until there is absolute testing that's going to allow to us isolate the hot spots, we can't open. it's not going to be an interesting pill to swallow, but as a ceo i get my people together, i get my circle together and say, guys, there is no balancing act until testing. south korea in march was testing at a 40 times rate that the u.s. was. so everything else is a discussion. official the end goal sis a vaccine. until then there is no balancing act without testing. that's what i do as a ceo. i say, understand right now even if i do open up, people are not moving. they've told us they're smart if not smarter than we are, get the testing done. >> okay. well the information that you -- you just provided us and the viewers about tennessee and kentucky, that's fascinating. and it really does go to the bigger point. i was talking earlier about the weinberger doctrine, you don't start wars unless you have public support of those wars. and colin powell followed up to adding on to that theory. what sure saying really underlines the fact that scientists can say whatever scientists want to say. economists can say whatever they want to say. politicians can say what they want to say. but, donny, as somebody who's spent his entire life obsessing on what consumers think, you've just basically said everything we hear is noise unless it makes the consumer feel safe. unless the consumer thinks that he or she can take their family to a restaurant, sit outside, socially distance, wear masks, do -- if the consumers aren't happy, ain't nobody happy is basically what you're saying, right. >> right. >> put it on a bumper sticker. >> the definition of marketing is understanding where consumers -- is and plucking in your product. so if our product is getting the economy open again, working back to a consumer's mindset, until they feel safe, the only thing that's going to make them feel safe right now is testing, it's all noise to your point. >> and it's, at this point, peter baker, i keep asking the same question, but is it upon the president? is it a possibility the president could be do more on this front by using a power that only he has? >> yeah, the defense product act, of course, allows him to, you know, mandate greater testing production capability in the country. but that doesn't seem to be his goal. his goal is, you know, to convince the country that we don't need anymore testing, they're already doing plenty of testing, mission accomplished as people said. and he is not adopting the view of public health experts who believe we need comprehensive testing. he's saying everyone who wants a test can get one. if you're symptomatic and sick, for the most part there are tests available these days. the question is what public health experts want to do is test people who are not symptomatic. people who do not show signs, but in order good to gto get a sense of where the virus might be. they're testing the people that come close to the president every single day. that's in order to create a workspace in which they can control any possible outbreak before it spreads too far. most all businesses in the country are not able to do that. they don't have the capacity do that kind of testing if somebody is not symptomatic, not showing signs of being sick. if you can't control the virus in the most secure building in the country, then how are you going to do it in all these other workplaces in 50 states in that's what people are worried about. >> so, pete, let r, let me ask follow up as this story continues and mika's asking about the defense product act and why didn't the president take a more aggressive approach to these. >> he still could. >> what's your reporting over ma the past month or two on why he is so reluctant do that? why has he been so reluctant to take a roosevelt-type approach to this pandemic that's already killed over 80,000 americans? now we hear is going to kill possibly as many as 140, 150,000 americans in this first wave. why has he pushed back so hard against a power that only he could implement that history suggests could make a big difference? >> yeah, it's interesting, of course, this is sa president wh doesn't shy away from asserting power in a number of scenarios and he does so he here. he's used it in a couple of discrete ways but on some occasions he's walked up to the line and pulled back. his argument is better to show you can use them to force them to do it without pulling the trigger. but he's shown a striking reluctance do so in a testing case. think what he's hearing from the advisers is we don't need to at this pinoint, we're already succeeding. he likes hearing the words they're succeeding,s he's adoptd and embraced that. you willer that th you will hear that in the days to come that they've mastered this and they don't need to do anything further because they have all of the tests that we need. we are testing around 300,000 a day today. the harvard global public health initiative said a few days ago that we need to be doing around 900,000 a day in order to have the kind of mapping that the country could use to understand where the virus is, where it's not, how to confront it where we find it. >> hey, donny, it's willie. first of all, thank you for taking some time with us before the dental assistant calls you in for your teeth whitening at the dentist office. it's a wonderful white backdrop there, my friend. looking very good. [ laughter ] >> but let me ask you something that we were talking about earlier today, which is the way that joe biden was running his presidential campaign. it's easy to forget we're in the middle of a presidential campaign. he's doing what all of the doctors have told us do, stay home. some reports are hammering in the democratic party that he's not visible enough and donald trump is owning the stage. what's your view of the way this is playing out right now? there is the one view that let president trump go out there and do what he's doing every day, which is, you know, putting out false information and hurting himself with these public addresses. >> that's it, you just nailed it. let him have the stage. as we all know an incumbent presidential election is a referendum on the incumbent, let him get out there. let him continually put his foot in his mouth. and the idealized version, i think the less of joe the better. joe biden, the ideal version of joe biden is as the best version because when he goes out there, unfortunately, he does stumble a little bit. but we know he's comfort food, we can trust him. we know he's solid. even if he completely disappeared and just gave the stage to trump, that would be a win for him. so you combine his less than stellar on camera performance versus let him stay back, to your point, there's no road mines out there. where is he going? let donald trump have the stage. trump can't help himself. joe, i know he watches the show, you told him not to, but, donald, keep doing what your doing, brother. that's all you've got to do to handle the democrats. keep getting out there, opening your mouth, biden you'll be fine. biden, you stay in the basement. >> clair mccaskill, what do you think about your former senator joe biden and the way he's campaigning right now? >> i think it's perfect. he is consistently showing empathy. he is -- has a message that is clear, remember he wrote an op-ed in january, in january laying all this out. so he has the high ground in terms of preparation. i agree, i think that donald trump, the more donald trump flails around with a chaotic message and the incompetence in this administration from top to bottom, i think the better it is for joe biden. especially for older voters. that's where he's really losing ground. and, by the way, the other important measure out there on polling that i noticed over the last few days, last time there was a lot of dislike of both candidates, hillary and donald trump. the people who dislike most of the -- both of them, most of them voted for donald trump. right now in polling, people who dislike both of these candidates, they're voting for joe biden. >> clair mccaskill, donny deutsch and peter baker, thank you all for being on this morning. and still ahead on "morning joe." >> the people, my people, are so smart. and you know what else they say about my people in the polls. they say i have the most loyal people. did you ever see that? where i could stand in the middle of fifth avenue and shoot somebody and i wouldn't lose any voters, okay. it's like incredible. >> that was 2016 and last year donald trump's private attorney said even if the president were to shoot someone on fifth avenue he could not be arrested or even investigated for the duration of his presidency. our next guest says another trump lawyer, jay sekulow, stepped back from that yesterday, but only just a bit. we'll talk about the supreme court fight for trump's records. plus, house speaker nancy pelosi joins the conversation straight ahead on "morning joe." pelosi joins the conversatn io straight ahead on "morning joe." how about no no uh uh, no way come on, no no n-n-n-no-no only discover has no annual fee on any card. that family doesn't have to take out of their house. it relieves stress off of me to let me know i'm doing something good for the community, not just papa john's. ♪ ambient sound fades in and plays throughout. ♪ ♪ ambient sound begins to rise. ♪ ♪ ambient 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politics. that doesn't bother me. but the clinton v. jones information does bother me. and the fact that what i hold today will also apply to a future senator mccarthy asking me future franklin roosevelt or harry truman exactly the same questions, that bothers me. so what i do? >> the president got his day in the supreme court yesterday as his lawyers argued to keep from disclosing his financial records to house committees and a new york grand jury. joining us now, nbc news and msnbc law analysts and editor and chief of law fair benjamin wh wittes. and barbara mcquade. thank you both for being with us. >> ben, worried about his 0% review, he's dragged in a bookshelf in that blue mass. so congratulations. >> that looks good. >> congratulations. >> room raider, eat your heart out. i -- i revel -- i was told yesterday that the only other person who'd only ever got ann zero from room raider was mitch mcconnell. so i have finally found something that i have in common with mitch mcconnell. >> there you go. well, let's talk about just absolute fascinating cases, the cases before the supreme court yesterday. and quite an interesting breakdown if you look at what justice breyer said, it certainly appears that this court is not going to lean on the presidents of u.s. v. nixon or clinton v. jones in this which were decided 9-0 and pretty clear cut. but as you described yesterday on your law fair podcast, the supreme court does not seem to be interested in following those precedents. >> i have to say under the relevant precedents which are not just those, but also a series of cases involving the scope of proper congressional oversight, this is not a hard case or neither of these is a hard case. and in order to make law that would be more favorable to the president here, the supreme court is really going to have to, you know, kind of bob and weave between some pretty strong precedents that all seem to cut in the other direction, frankly. that said, i was surprised or maybe i shouldn't have been, but i was once again surprised by the fact that the supreme court seems to be pretty political. and, you know, yesterday several of the justices seemed quite entranced by the idea that they should do that and they should -- and, by the way, not just the conservative justices, as the clip you showed from justice breyer suggests. there seemed to be at least some interest in protecting the presidency from what several of the justices called harassment by congress. >> barbara mcquade, you're writing about this and looking at a potential attempt to slow walk this to get past the elections. why would the president want to do that? what does that indicate might be hidden? >> you know, one of the arguments that trump's lawyers raised yesterday that actually seemed to have some merit to some of the justices was this middle ground, this idea that even if these documents need to be produced, they can only be produced after either the grand jury or the congressional committees show some kind of specialized need or heightened standard. that is, that these documents are essential and that the only way that they can achieve their goal is by looking at these documents that the president's documents. and i think the result of that would be to send it back to the lower courts for another round of briefing, work its way back up through the appellate courts which could take months. so this could be a strategy by president trump, even if he ultimately has to give up the documents or some portion of the documents, that it would get us well past november. and so these documents could not be used in any way against him in the election. >> so i had a flashback, ben, to my days at the university of florida law school and being peppered with questions about my law teacher. so i'm going to just defer to you and since you're with me you can answer this question. what is your response to justice breyer who says what we require of donald trump now from this congress may be required of a future fdr when a senator mccarthy demands personal or embarrassing information from him? what's your argument to -- to brush that aside and tell justice breyer that this is not going to be bad precedent for future presidents? >> well, first of all, my first reaction to him is, yeah, and that is exactly, you know, the court in some of the mccarthy era cases did set out a very cursory kind of limitation on the ability to -- of congress to subpoena things simply for purposes of exposure. but -- but by and large, yes, the answer is that the court has always acknowledged that congress has an exceptionally broad investigative power in its legislative activities, and that is potentially subject to abuse. and every recent past president in our adult lifetimes or maybe even longer than that, would be shocked to know that congress -- that the court is there to protect them against harassment by congress. i mean, did george w. bush not feel ma hawa feel harassed by congress after 2006? did bill clinton not feel harassed by the republican congress after you guys took over? did barack obama not -- i mean, you know, the idea that congress harasses the president, including about his personal life, i had thought that was kind of the bread and butter of american politics. now, i will say that, you know, they're in a highly polarized environment like the one that we have, it is not crazy to worry about the concern that breyer outlines. but, i do think it's a little bit late for that. because the supreme court ruled nine to nothing and breyer, by the way, though he wrote a concurnco concurrence was part of that ruling that paula jones could bring a case against bill clinton. and in that case the president was not immunized from that case and therefore would have to produce any kinds of documents and even sit for a deposition. and if that -- if a single citizen can drag the president into court and make him answer questions and produce documents, it seems a bit odd to suggest that the congress of the united states cannot. >> it is odd. and, of course, my personal belief is that this presidency is winding down and so what the court decides probably, you know, maybe donald trump will be able to run out the clock. but -- but having a president just decide on his own that he's not going to comply with any oversight requests from congress certainly does set a chilling precedent. so, barbara, let's talk about breaking news last night. fascinating news coming from the flynn case. judge sullivan said he was open to hearing arguments from others, from third parties, arguing against the justice department's dismissal of charges against general flynn. what's it mean? >> yeah, so there is a local rule in the district of columbia that says thsays a meek cuss brf can be filed. that is friends of the court, groups of lawyers cho who can file briefs. i think this is a great decision by judge sullivan, because it's an unusual scenario where you have both parties seeking the same relief. the government has filed a motion to dismiss. most certainly flynn's lawyers are not going to oppose that motion. and so the judge does not have the benefit of hearing the other side of that argument. certainly there has been a lot of outcry in the public that this is highly unusual and even diplomat politicized. and so by allowing emeke i can to file briefs, they can get the other side. these are common in the supreme court, but pretty rare at the district court level usually because the issues are more fact based and that legally based. but they're intended to help the court. so he has said he will issue a scheduling order so that he is not inundated with briefs. but briefs that he finds helpful to consider the issues in this case so that he can make a decision. because the ball really is very much in his court. judge sullivan is the one who gets to decide whether this case is dismissed or goes forward. >> barbara mcquade and benjamin wittes, thank you both very much for being on this morning. coming up, u.s. officials are accusing china of actions that some might consider an attack on american public health. specifically hackers targeting universities and pharmaceutical firms working on a coronavirus vaccine. that new report is next. plus, house speaker nancy pelosi will be our guest at the top of the hour. you're watching "morning joe." we'll be right back. you're watching "morning joe." we'll be right back. effortless is the lincoln way. so as you head back out on the road, we'll be doing what we do best. providing some calm amidst the chaos. with virtual, real-time tours of our vehicles as well as remote purchasing. for a little help, on and off the road. now when you buy or lease a new lincoln, we'll make up to 3 payments on your behalf. they're targeting nufrts an effort that could hamper their effort to find a coronavirus vaccine. u.s. officials tell this to the "wall street journal." the paper reports that this morning since -- this morning that since early january the two countries have waged cyberattacks against a range of american firms and institutions that are working the attacks raised the prospect that it could be viewed by the trump administration as a direct attack on u.s. public health and to an act of war because the attacks may have hindered vaccine research in some cases. such an interpretation will represent an escalation on how the u.s. government views cyberattacks against the country. they told the journal that china was the primary adversary amid the coronavirus outbreak with it's attacks more widespread and frequent. china and iran historically denied targeting the u.s. with cyber espionage. nbc news has not confirmed the journal's report. joining us now, the president on the counsel on foreign relations he is the author of the new book out this week entitled the world, a brief introduction. and in this case, of cyberattacks, richard, this is obviously part of the next frontier in warfare which would be to try to debilitate countries, in this case, when it comes to public health. >> absolutely. there's no rules of the road in cyber space. and the idea that people would be out there trying to steal intellectual property, that would be in character with what china has done over the years. we also have to think are there ways that we can push back? for example, why aren't we out there joining with others demanding investigations of all sorts of aspects of what china has done with the pandemic? why aren't we more critical of the arrest of democracy activists in hong kong? the chinese political leadership cares most about their position. about their prestige and i think that we ought to be relentless in zeroing in on that if they are doing things such as this, if this is in fact, true. >> and richard, the chinese have been such bad actors from the beginning of this pandemic. and pushing for transparency. and i think it's critically important. and their actions actually show that system. if the united states doesn't lea lead this world it's not lead. we still remain whether we like it or not in 2020 the indispensable nation. >> there's only two ways. one is we have to lead by example and unfortunately we're not. our response to this virus ought to be head and shoulders above everybody else's given our technology and our innovation culture here ands not. whether we're talking about testing or any other number of, you know, issues like protective equipment and then second of all we have to lead in the world diplomatically. we should be sitting with the europeans and others in a collaborative effort to develop a vaccine. these are global challenges. and neither one is the policy. and in all sorts of ways. europe, the whole process of europe knitting itself together. it's moving in the opposite direction. north korea is using more weapons and more missiles. it's being more assertive against it's neighbors so we can literally hopscotch around the world and virtually everything that was going on is going on. in some cases it's accelerated and in some cases it's simply worse because we have taken our eye off the ball because we're so focused on the coronavirus. so there's those saying i hope people come to their senses out of this and the worldc comes together and deals with the pandemic and deals with other issues. but it's quite possible that it will go in another direction. they'll get worse and we'll have all the challenges and what is worse, i think, what worries me is all of this will happen at a time that we and other countries will be devoting massive resources to fixing ourselves and all of our attention will be focused inward. >> and still ahead, what does $3 trillion buy you? we're going to ask speaker nancy pelosi about the new coronavirus rescue bill. the speaker joins us just moments from now. we'll be right back. r joins us moments from now we'll be right back. cancer won't wait. it won't wait for a convenient time or for 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how to deal with the sputtering economy. if passed the new bill would be the biggest emergency spending measure in u.s. history. sending aid to state and local governments, health systems and a range of other initiatives. however according to the washington post republicans have already rejected the bill before even seeing it describing it as a liberal wish list joining us is the speaker of the house. madam speaker, thank you for being on this morning. it's scientific and it's fair. that's number one in our bill is how do we open up the economy. how do we get rid of this virus, this villain and that is testing tracing, treatment and isolation. second to that is the honoring our heros. that's why it's called the heros act. in no particular order provisions call for honoring our heros. our first responders, our health care workers for sure. our teachers, our sanitation workers, food, transit, you name it. those that are on the front line and we help them by sending the money to state and local governments and that's where they get paid and they did it in large measure and we had important assistance for hospitals as well. so it's about testing. it's about honoring our heros and third it's about putting money in the pockets of the american people by some of the measures that you mentioned, unemployment insurance, direct payments, employment retention, tax credit, child tax credit and the rest. so this is -- whether they know it or not, the country needs to have this testing. and we have to have it so that we know the size of thiss challenge and we have to do it in a fairway so that we can end the disparities. when you see people of color, minority communities have a high rate of death it's going to say they haven't been tested or diagnosed or treated. so we think it's an answer and it's scientific in it's basis and fair to the american people as well as honoring our first responders. with hazard pay as well. it has other items that you mentioned but everything that i just mentioned has the former bills that we passed. we passed four bipartisan bills and testing and direct payments, those things. and we can defeat and defeat this virus and help people in the meantime and again, honor our heros. >> so madam speaker, so republicans are saying this is a liberal wish list and also saying you didn't talk to them, didn't talk to the white house, didn't talk to the senate and this isn't an opening bid by the house democrats. house democrats are just trying to make a statement. what do you say to them and what is the possibility of striking a compromise with this bill with the united states senate and the white house. >> yeah. well, of course. that's what we put down what we think this country needs. it isn't about politics. it's about humanity. whether they have to pause the out of work anger and pain that people are feeling. this is a time for us to really have a strategic plan to test trace, treat, and isolate. a strategic plan and doing so, to do so that will open our economy scientifically and instead of helter skelter. we're long overdue. our first bill in the house, bipartisan, march 4th, testing, testing, testing. they really didn't do it. our most recent bill, $26 billion for testing, we still don't see the strategic plan that is called for there. this isn't -- again, this isn't partisanship, this is science, this is humanity, this is about the family of america caring for each other. sensitive to everyone's concerns but also determined to get rid of this very resourceful virus is taking, as you have shown this morning, some ugly, even uglier terms. it's a big ticket. it's a lot of money. american people are worth it. we see the administration with the low interest rates. and we're thinking big and appropriately focused discipline. we have a plan, we have a goal. we have a timetable. we have benchmarks and we want to say let's open up the economy. it's all a negotiation but again, states, governors and mayors across the country republican and democrat desperately need this help. testing is so urgent, you keep showing that day in and day out and i thank you for that and again the american people need this help. but the key to opening the door is testing, testing, testing. >> thank you for joining us this morning. we appreciate it. there was a lot of news out of your state yesterday. the public health director in los angeles county announced effectively three more months of stay at home orders although she said it will be phased and then hopefully we can reopen slowly over that time, the largest four year public university system in the country is already now in may saying no classes in the fall. do you agree with those decisions? there's a lot of people in los angeles county that are saying, whoa, three more months. i can't survive this as a small business. i can't survive this as someone that's out of work. >> well, of course i agree with the decisions of the people on the ground and their particular venue and location. because as dr. fauci said earlier and i wish the president would listen to him or hear him even that you cannot think or pretend this went away and go out there. so yes it's inconvenient and it's even more inconvenient if you're going to be infected or worse. and that's the biggest fear. so that's the decision that the city of los angeles has made and the cal state system then i respect that. i'm very sad about september. i'm sad about september all hoping kids could be back in school. >> that hope is across the country. with your $3 trillion proposal comes on the back of four previous bills that amounted to $3 trillion. are you confident that this will go to the people that need it. and business owners that need it to survive? >> that is not in this bill. we do have it and emergency assistance grants. and we're asking for the documentation and there's been a great deal of success across the country but not totally so we just want to see because we were succe successful on these bills. and in reverse and we were able to have an impact and testing and the unrest which really has not been fully addressed and then the third bill kaulted t-- the trickle down bill, we're very proud of that. so with that as well as the bill the president recently signed, not even having a chance to get one of those loans for smaller entities, women, minority, native american, veterans, rural small businesses to have their opportunity. but we still haven't seen the data to support what may have been done there. it is an appropriate. we want it to work but want it to work for everyone. this bill is not addressing the ppp. this is about a mitigation for what is happening. we have funds to offset the attempt to fray the cost they have made in terms of the coronavirus. why have we not made a decision as a nation to do what we know is an answer by testing and i believe there could be some technologies and we'll speed up the test. and we're hopeful in that regard. this was said this morning by some of your guests. we have to stock pile. we have to stock pile. we have to have a supply chain we're not ready and it addressing the concerns in a positive way. by and large, against the post office and election by mail a few things that they're not supported by -- i hope that they'll be supportive of strong osha provisions that enable people to go back to work safely and protect employers because they have honored the mandates of osha. so it is -- this is as dry in the eye as it can be. it's objectively what scientists tell us we need to do and what people need and a definite need for state and local to have these systems. they may lose their jobs in the meantime. >> it's always great to have you on the show. thank you for coming on this morning. >> still ahead on morning joe, despite warnings from top officials about reopening too soon, it appears that americans are already on the move. we'll take a look at the new data on that. plus the rhode island 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americans are smart. they're watching, they're listening, they're paying attention. meanwhile, the new york times analysis of cell phone data found that tens of millions of americans already were leaving their homes in growing numbers. about 25 million more people ventured outside of their homes on an average day last week than during the proceeding six weeks according to the times and nearly every part of the country the share of people staying home dropped in some places by nearly 11%. no state saw a larger drop in the share of people staying home last week than michigan even though it's stay at home order remained in place. joining us now, nbc news science contributor lori garrett. good morning. it's good to see you again. you have been a good barometer for us over the course of this. snapshot of where we are now as we sit here in mid may a couple of months into this staying at home. how are we doing? what do we need to do better? you can't give a response for the nation because we don't have a anti-covid reaction overall. it's out to the states and localities so the answer how are we doing depends on where you are physically. >> so what about the hotspots like new york city for example where hospitalizations are down. we talked to a hospital saying where we are today is much better and all the things that we focused on hospitalization cases and ppe. so there can be the false sense of security that since new york has gotten better than where it was in a terrible place that the country is getting better. and considerably and i heard nothing but sirens 24/7, around the clock. sometimes 5, 6, 7 sirens at once and you can see and feel the sense of danger and death in the city. and that has dramatically changed. but because new york had so many cases and so many deaths we represent the majority of the database for the nation as a whole. if you take new york out of the equation and take the specific coast states. seattle area, portland area and the state of california out the country's epidemic is still very much on the assent and quite frighteningly so in certain parts of the country. >> there's obviously a lot of debate right now about how to reopen the country, when to reopen but without a vaccine we're in this in some way, shape, or form. dr. fauci testified yesterday and there seems to be a sense that a vaccine could be less than a year away. let's take a listen. you might be calling this committee that in january of this year, i said that it would take about one year to 18 months. if we were successful in developing a vaccine. the nih trial moved very quickly. on january 10th, the sequence was known. and develop a plan on the 14th of january we officially started the vaccine development. 62 days later we are now in phase one clinical trial with the two doses already fully enrolled. >> what would you say to the principle of the public school about how to persuade parents and students to return to school in august. let's start with treatments and vaccines first dr. fauci. to facilitate the reentry of students into the fall term would be something that would be a bit of a bridge too far. >> all right. so on vacciens there's a race against time to try to produce something that can work. what are the realities though of actually getting a vaccine to the people? people are describing the most optimistic scenario involving a revolutionary type based on this. vaccines are easier to make because you have the genetic blueprint of the virus that's circulating in china and you base your vaccine on the genetic blueprint. but the types of vaccines that you have had to yourself and you have given to your children are largely based on whole virus, the actual virus itself that's been killed and the immune system sees the spikes and things sticking out on the virus and reacts to it or on the spikes. but now we're walking into unknown territory. we have no idea how rapidly the fda can approve the type of vaccine and we don't know what the side effects might be. we don't know how it's going to perform in people and most evidence right now indicates that this whole class of vaccines, do not provide very strong immune responses. if we want the kind of immune response that's going to protect people for years these may not be adequate to the task. the other types all take longer to develop. and are harder to produce and pose greater challenges. >> is there a better way to get it to the people as soon as possible? the better way would be we had a form of testing that didn't involve getting a giant swab all the way to the back of your throat and then an appropriate that didn't require as many layers of technology all of which are running out of supply. you look right now and it's unbelievable what's going on in china and now they have six identified covid infections. they're trying in now fine remaining days to test 11 million people. or a pin pick of blood can be drawn that doesn't involve so many layers of laboratory work and that is like having a test just a piece of paper that would change colors somehow when you put a drop of blood or saliva upon it or give a clear reading instantly upon sight. that's what we need. we don't have it. there's forms of that in a stage of development and we're praying that we're going to get there and have a rapid paper test if you will. available in a few months. >> thank you very much. >> and still ahead, states across the country are beginning to reopen and in rhode island there's a new effort to get the economy going with the help from top tech companies. companies a look at that new piece next on morning joe. morning joe. tempur-pedic's mission is to give you truly transformative sleep. so, no more tossing and turning. because only tempur-pedic adapts and responds to your body... ...so you get deep, uninterrupted sleep. during the tempur-pedic summer of sleep, all tempur-pedic mattresses are on sale! confident financial plans, calming financial plans, complete 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>> well, in some ways it's not dissimilar from coronavirus where we have a big problem and we know that a threat is out there and likely to hit us. and the entire country knows the plan and the bipartisan consensus about the reforms that need to be in place to protect us and yet it's the statements like the ones that you read at the top of the segment where trump undermines everything that the bureaucracy is doing. he undermines all the bipartisan momentum for reform. so we are left in this position where we saw what they did in 2016 and we have seen what they have done in elections since then and the midterm elections in 2015 so we know that their tactics have evolved. they have this map of the united states electoral system and people don't appreciate that they probed the voting systems of all 50 states and the vendors that sell to counts and the to state and there are countless vulnerabilities and the russians know them and in 2016 they stayed their hand. they could have gone further and the intelligence community is a little bit confused about why they didn't cause more in 2016 and given that had president has essentially invited it and shown there's no price to be paid for it, what is the reason for them not to go further and they could probably do it in ways essentially undetectable to our intelligence services. >> frank. i want to ask you when the premiere league will restart in liverpool can be crowned the rightful champions of that league and of english football but that question can wait. i'm curious, you talk about the decentralization of our electoral systems. in florida, there's 67 counts and all 67 supervisors of elections can choose the way they're going to run. isn't that actually the united states best defense against widespread manipulations to the chinese and jurouranians. >> i don't want to know if you're wearing liverpool pajamas. it's an advantage in that the russians can't strike one computer system and manipulate the aggregate tally which is what they tried to do with ukraine in 2014 but what they can do is that they can cause -- they can cause problems in places that create suspicion. he will seize on anything that could go wrong. so really we're vulnerable to a feather push from the russians. the danger isn't that they will knockout the results or try to change the tally but they could hack into the wisconsin secretary of state office on election night and post fake results on there and those fake results will then cause trump supporters and trump himself to say that this whole election needs to be thrown out or that somehow the official results are illegitimate they're saying we have to stop this. they're starting to work on 2020. we have to put safe guards up so this never happens again and as you point out in detail in your peace it piece it's happening against and russians have gone around whatever safe guards were put in place. in fact when a representative of the office of dni testified to congress in february that russia was up to its tricks again you'll remember that president trump quickly fired joseph mcguire, the dni at that point for putting that message out there. so are there safe guards? have anything been put in place? has anything changed since 2016 and what has president trump done to undermine some of that work? >> so states in 2016 didn't take the russian threat seriously and they accused him of trying to federalize elections but since then dhs has done various exercises and installed some sensors on some of the state computing systems to protect those and that's a positive. and this should be extremely troubling to all americans which is when i went to talk to people on the hill on intelligence committees and you talk to people that served in the trump national security counsel, what they say is that the best russia hand in the intelligence community don't want to work on russia related issues because they're afraid of their work being politicized. they're afraid of getting fired for speaking truth and so they have asked to be removed from working on the russia issue. and when i ask senator mark warner, the ranking democrat on the senate select committee on intelligence he told me that he couldn't be sure that he could trust the intelligence that he was seeing and the government was producing about russia and i asked him if the russians were executing a major campaign, would our intelligence communities report that? so that to me is the most terrifying thing about where we stand. >> we'll close by reading this. events in the united states unfolded more favorably than any operative in moscow could have ever dreamed. not only did russia's preferred candidate win but he fulfilled the potential it saw in him, discrediting american institutions. the seams of american culture and isolating a nation that styled itself as indispensable to the free world but instead of complacently enjoying it's triumph, russia almost immediately set about replicating it. boosting the trump campaign was a tactic/democracy, rest in peace, remains the larger objective. vladimir putin dreams of discrediting the american democratic system and he will never have a more reliable ally than donald trump. a democracy cannot defend itself if it can't honestly describe the attacks against it. but the president hasn't just undermined his own country's defenses, he has actively abedded the adversaries efforts. keep that in mind. the piece is in the new issue of the atlantic. thank you very, very much. >> and frank, you'll never walk alone. >> all right you two. a key model is raising it's projection from the possible u.s. deaths from coronavirus and the rhode island governor gina raimondo will be our guest. morning joe will be right back. . morning joe will be right back your mission: stand up to moderate to severe rheumatoid arthritis. and take. it. on... ...with rinvoq. rinvoq a once-daily pill... ...can dramatically improve symptoms... rinvoq helps tame pain, stiffness, swelling. and for some-rinvoq can even significantly reduce ra fatigue. that's rinvoq relief. with ra, your overactive immune system... ...attacks your joints. rinvoq regulates it to help stop the attack. rinvoq can lower your ability to fight infections, including tuberculosis. serious infections and blood clots, sometimes fatal, have occurred... ...as have certain cancers, including lymphoma, tears in the stomach or intestines, and changes in lab results. your doctor should monitor your bloodwork. tell your doctor about any infections...and if you are or may become pregnant while taking rinvoq. take on ra talk to your rheumatologist about rinvoq relief. rinvoq. make it your mission. if you can't afford your medicine, abbvie may be able to help. being prepared and overcoming challenges. usaa has been standing with them for nearly a hundred years. and we'll be here to serve you for a hundred more. ♪ and we'll be here to serve you for a hundred more. there are times when our need to connect really matters. to keep customers and employees in the know. to keep business moving. comcast business is prepared for times like these. powered by the nation's largest gig-speed network. to help give you the speed, reliability, and security you need. tools to manage your business from any device, anywhere. and a team of experts - here for you 24/7. we've always believed in the power of working together. that's why, when every connection counts... you can count on us. the official statistic is that 80,000 americans have died from the pandemic. there are some epidemiologists that suggest the number may be 50% higher than that. what do you think? >> i'm not sure if it's going to be 50% higher but most of us feel that the number of deaths are likely higher than that number because given the situation particularly in new york city and to the health care system that there may have been people that died at home who did have covid who were not counted as covid because they never really got to the hospital. so a direct answer to your question, i think that you are correct that the number is likely higher. i don't know exactly what is higher but almost certainly it's higher. that's 10,000 more deaths than the models last prediction. a senior administration official tells nbc news that while they keep an eye on these outside models, the administration largely focuses on its own data, cdc guidelines and guidance from the coronavirus task force. joining us now, the governor of rhode island, very good to have you. >> i know. i know. >> keep going back to that. >> so great to see you governor. you're working hard to work with businesses and tech companies to begin testing and tracing in your state but what happens between then and now? then when all of that is in place and now when the economy is at a stand still and people are frustrated and worried about their economic security? >> the story is really one of innovation. so i don't think that any of us -- i have never had to lead through anything quite like this which means that we have to move fast and also think differently. so what i have tried to do is reach out and ask for partnerships. we partnered immediately with cvs, a hometown company here to ramp up testing. reached out to salesforce very early in the crisis and said, hey, you guys have to help me develop a best in class contact tracing system, and reached out to amazon web services. we are flooded with unemployment insurance claims like every stay in the country. i had people hanging on hold or busy signals, which is exactly what they shouldn't be doing during the crisis. now we're able to process 1,000 calls a minute. my point in saying this is every day is different. we have to be quick and react, but we have to be open and innovating and doing things differently. we do have to get people back to work. we have to do it thoughtfully, safely, slowly, but my focus has been flatten our curve, which we have done very successfully to taking aggressive and swift action, and then build systems, testing systems, contact tracing systems, symptom tracking symptoms, so people have confidence and feel safe, so that we can slowly get folks back to work. you know, we have an economic crisis here, as well as a public health crisis. when you're the governor, i've got a million people i need to answer to. they need to be both safe and healthy and slowly get back to work with confidence. >> governor, what about the bigger picture, though? as rhode island stands out in your ability to develop these partnerships, get testing and tracing in place, proper distancing guidelines met by the people, as you said, we've got to get the economy back going, what about the fact you're just one state and a lot of people move through your state. doesn't it defeat the purpose if other states are not on the same page? >> first, i want to give a shoutout to my fellow governors in this region. they're all battling this every day and doing a terrific job of that. about three weeks ago, we came together -- seven governors in the northeast -- to collaborate and coordinate or efforts, including travel, as you say, including joint purchasing of ppe. again, constantly innovating, doing things differently to meet the challenge. you know, rhode island is a small state nestled between two huge hot spots of the crisis. to the north boston, to the south new york city. so we have had to deal with that fact. i'm really quite pleased with where we are now. i was able to lift our stay-at-home order just the other day, but you're right, i'm in constant contact, and we're working together to protect our regional economy. >> governor, it's willie geist. good to have you with us this morning. you mentioned the slow reopening you started. some restaurants will be able to have outdoor dining, some retail with restrictions, of course. how are you weighing this balance that every governor and every municipality is having to look at right now, of wanting to get your people back to work, wanting to get your small businesses open and the public health questions that come with it. obviously the push from the president of the united states is let's open, let's open with greatness, to use his twitter term. how are you looking it as a governor who has to manage the 1 million people in your state? >> look, it's tough. everything is a judgment call. the governors are absolutely on the front lines. i hear from people every day. the stories of economic struggle are real. you know, i hear from restaurant owners who worry they may not be able to reopen. they can't sustain two or three months of no business. having said that, i'll tell you how i'm dealing with it. i believe in the slow-and-steady reopening. my goal, of course, is to reopen once. you don't want to go too fast and then have to pull back and reopen again. so the approach that i have landed on, after great consultation with public health experts, my team, businesses is, guys, it's in everyone's interest to go slowly and steadily. let's take 14 days, study where we are, and then take the next step. i'm leading with confidence. i truth the people of rhode island they're going to do the right thing. they know it's in their interests to follow the rules so they can reopen, but i never again want to have to pull back and shut down our economy. so we've landed in a place of slowly reopening, you know, like the dimmer switch, not the flick of the light, and hoping if you do that slowly, you never have to pull back. people get it. listen, they're frustrated. i get that, too, but we are where we are and i think we just have to accept it. >> governor gina raimondo, thank you, and we wish you the best of luck for this. >> thank you so much, governor. breaking news, paul manafort granted home confinement due to coronavirus fears. willie, i don't know that it will be popular what i say next. but good, what he did was wrong. what he did was not a death sentence. a 71-year-old guy, obviously in poor health, should not be left in prison to die. that doesn't just apply to people who worked for donald trump. this is something we'll have to wrestle with right now. prisoners are dying. again, i know there are a lot of prisoners -- we need to get reverend al to talk about this tomorrow. he's been concerned about this for months now and, yes, it does look like, once again, two justice systems. a guy like manafort will get out and others who aren't politically connected aren't, but hopefully this puts pressure for other nonviolent offenders to be released from prison. >> paul manafort is supposed to be out november 2024. i think there will be more pressure on low-level nonoffenders to clog up the jails. governor raimondo said it well there. my goal is to reopen once. that's the underlying statement of what dr. fauci was putting out in the hearing yesterday. if we go too fast, there will be trouble again when we go to the fall. that does it for us this morning. stephanie ruhle picks up the coverage after this quick, final break. final break. the men and women of the united states postal service. we're here to deliver cards and packages from loved ones and also deliver the peace of mind of knowing that essentials like prescriptions are on their way. every day, all across america, we deliver for you. and we always will. confident financial plans, calming financial plans, complete financial plans. they're all possible with a cfp® professional. find yours at letsmakeaplan.org. no uh uh, no way come on, no no n-n-n-no-no only discover has no annual fee on any card. yothat's why kubota'sl. 1,100 dealers n-n-n-no-no are working to keep you working. call or email your kubota dealer about 0% financing. no payments for 90 days offer expires 5/31. together we do more. make family-sized meals fast, and because it's a ninja foodi, it can do things no other oven can, like flip away. the ninja foodi air fry oven, the oven that crisps and flips away. and my side super soft? 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