that it would have been vacant otherwise? >> well you, know it is very puzzling, because he makes it sound like, look no problem, because it did not take anything out of the wallet of a billionaire, when all the ethics experts say it is not about, that right, and is about the appearance, it is about taking a ride on a jet for a three-day luxury trip, and then, never disclosing it on your financial disclosure forms, which asks you every year to disclose these gifts. i mean, i will say both alito and thomas who had a similar issue, they do not believe that ethics rules cover them. here but still it just seemed so strange, particularly because in this instance, the sky has issues and cases before the court. >> certainly has the attention of capitol hill, thank you, with us now berkeley judicial institute executive director and former u.s. district judge for the north industry to california, jimmie, fogle chair