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July 8, 2017
Agenda that was meaningful? >> exactly, every president, most certainly our national security advisers in the obama era were in the room. i cant remember when that did not happen. and secondly they did not have a note-taker. that was important for one reason, the he said, he said outlook. i dealt with that with lavrov, we had to deal with that to rebut things he would say. but more importantly, there is a transcript for the rest of the administration. how do you make policy when you dont actuall...
July 8, 2017
>> youve got it. and it is not unusual to get two different readings of a meeting, lavrov and his customary charlieing way, that was quite at odds with what secretary of state tillerson said. thats why there are note takers. they sit on the side of the room and they take notes. apparently president trump didnt want anyone else in the room. i guess he looks at every note taker and thinks of that person as being a leaker. but there are reasons you have note takers. >> there was a moment i want to...
July 8, 2017
Response. it seems theres not a particularly reliable narrator for what happened in that room. we have contrasting versions of what happened. the and there is a sort of grain of salt that it appears you have to take all accounts with. >> youve got it. and it is not unusual to get two different readings of a meeting, lavrov and his customary charlieing way, that was quite at odds with what secretary of state tillerson said. thats why there are note takers. they sit on the side of the room and the...
July 8, 2017
In the room. i cant remember when that wouldnt happen. but second they didnt have a note taker. and that is important for a couple of reasons. one because of this he said/he said kind of outcome. believe me i dealt with that with sergei lavrov when i was in the government. we had to dweel that to rebut things he would say. but more importantly there is a transcript for the rest of the trump administration. how do you make policy or implement policy when you are flying blind you dont know what wa...
July 8, 2017
At one point first lady melania trump came in to see if she could put an end to the meeting. it didnt work, the group went on for another hour. what happened there? what was that all about? >> i have no idea. like i said when i worked at the white house and then as ambassador i participated in many bilateral meetings, i dont recall something like that happening. >> and in your meetings, notes were taken? >> i was the note taker, often times the first meeting that obama had with prime minister pu...
July 8, 2017
The president of russia. >> all of the issues they had to cover were national security. >> of course. >> whether hacking the election or syria or north korea or nato. everything was a national security issue. there was nothing else on the agenda that was meaningful. >> exactly. and every president most certainly our national security advisers in the obama era were in the room. i cant remember when that wouldnt happen. but second they didnt have a note taker. and that is important for a couple of...
July 8, 2017
>> mike mcfall something happened today interesting. melania trump was playing an underthe radar role she sat next to vladimir putin at the dinner. here is an interesting detail. the one point the first lady came in in to see if she could put an end to the meeting. it didnt work tillerson said. the group went on another hour after that. what happened there? what was that all about? >> i have no idea. like i said, when i worked at the white house and then as ambassador i participated in many bila...
July 8, 2017
What happened there? what was that all about? >> i have no idea. like i said, when i worked at the white house and then as ambassador i participated in many bilateral meetings both with putin and before him president med vefld. >> i was the note taker. >> you were the note taker >> often times the he first meeting with president obama had with putin i was the note taker. let me say a little bit about that. number one its very odd to have not your national security adviser in the room. >> h.r. mc...
July 7, 2017
It was a very close circle. we certainly know that rex tillerson has personal relationships with putin going back from his ceo days. one of the things missing, chuck, is the faceless note taker. normally in these meetings there is someone with the responsibility to take notes. imagine two hours and 15 minutes and people trying to piece together their memories of what was said when every still la bell can matter. its hard to imagine that the translators had that responsibility or that tillerson d...
July 7, 2017
Things will be sitting there with the least experienced secretary of state in history. >> right. and im also worried. i assume theyll have an interpreter there. i dont know whether putin will want to speak in english. but im more worried that there wont be perhaps a note taker there unless of course secretary tillerson is going to take notes, which i would hope that he would do, but im guessing that he might not do because secretary lavrov wont take notes. im sure theyll figure out a way to get ...