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November 17, 2019
Other themes weve heard as you said. at one point he talks about trying to go to a meeting and he gets there and hes supposed to go in and take notes, and hes told he cant go in because sondland and yermak dont want a note-taker, they only want the two of them in there. how does that fit with the rest of the picture with what weve gotten about what bill taylor called the irregular channel of policy? >> the actual official channel of the state department had no idea what was happening in the irre...
November 17, 2019
Kershner, and ambassador wendy sherman, former under secretary of state for political affairs. shes an msnbc global affairs contributor. and ambassador sherman, i want to get your reaction to this new testimony that were learning of tonight from david holmes. this is a high ranking staff member in the embassy in ukraine whos a note taker. hes been in countless meetings with the president of ukraine and the previous president of ukraine. this is detailed man as it were, and this is a clear and pr...
November 16, 2019
That around. launching an investigation, and going on cnn and announcing this, it basically creates a narrative line. and by the way, the trump campaign announced it was spending millions of dollars on an ad campaign specifically on this subject. there is nothing subtle about this. its happening in plain sight. and it there was any doubt about it, the fact they announced this multi-million dollar campaign gives you an indication of what he was hoping to do and how he was hoping to frame this int...
November 16, 2019
Shes an msnbc global affairs contributor. and ambassador sherman, i want to get your reaction to this new testimony that were learning of tonight from david holmes. this is a high ranking staff member in the embassy in ukraine whos a note taker. hes been in countless meetings with the president of ukraine and the previous president of ukraine. this is detailed man as it were, and this is a clear and precise account of the gordon sondland phone call. your reaction to that. >> indeed. david holmes...
November 16, 2019
Other themes as you said. at one point he talks about trying to go to a meeting and he gets there and hes supposed to take notes, and hes told he cant go in because sondland and yermac dont want a note taker, they only want the two of them in there. how does that fit with what weve gotten about what bill taylor called the irregular channel of policy? >> the actual official channel the state department had no idea what was happening in the irregular channel. bill taylor was kind of the connection...
November 16, 2019
Member in the embassy in ukraine whos a note taker. hes been in countless meetings with the president of ukraine and the previous president of ukraine. detail man as it were and this is his clear and precise account of the gordon sondland phone call. >> indeed. he was in charge of the political section. he was the advisor about the politics of ukraine. not our politics but that of ukraine. and one thing your viewers and i hope the members of congress understand, even though he did not take conte...
November 15, 2019
Out of my mind. look, the claim from the republican side has been that nobody knows -- nobody heard exactly what the president was saying. nobody was in direct contact. this is all hearsay heres somebody that heard the words of the president himself. and who heard the word from the presidents mouth, the investigations, in the context of a conversation with gordon sondland about the call. it undercuts that to some degree. i dont think this will be the final word. but this is a step along the path...
November 15, 2019
10-page opening statement. it was read word for word to members of the committee a short while ago. that deposition is still ongoing but the statement is both detailed and it is damning. to set the context, david holmes, a political counselor at the u.s. embassy in ukraine is talking about coming out of a meeting with ukrainian president zelensky. as i was leaving the meeting i was told to join the meeting with ambassador sondland and mr. yermak a top official in zelenskys team as a note taker. ...
November 13, 2019
I understand hes got the right to get heat but he shouldnt be impeached. >> thats your interpretation. thats what these hearings are all about. charlie, if the republicans go after the reputation or character of bill taylor or george kent, will that be effective? do you think theyll do that today? >> that would be the worst thing to do. go after bill taylor? i mean, decades worth of service in vietnam, west point, ambassador to ukraine. this guy has a distinguished resume. apparently a very good...
November 13, 2019
He was apparently a compulsive notetaker in every meeting he had from the spring of this year until late september, after the release of the transcript of the phone call, that he had with a variety of aids in great detail, he discussed his growing realization that there was a condition, a link that aid to the ukraine, aid -- meeting with president trump and president zelensky depended upon zelensky making a public statement that there would be an investigation. an investigation of potential ukra...