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donald trump to just unseat him and his lead, but then really look at the whole pack and start to tick away folks one by one. >> s.e., the joe biden campaign and the democrats, they are going to start basically going after donald trump now-ish, they're going to start spending money now. do you think that's a good idea? what do they get out of that? >> yeah, i mean, they're basically pivoting to a general election, which is smart. you know, joe biden is the presumed nominee, but cornel west and rfk jr. are presenting some issues potentially. so i would clear them out of the way and start acting like the general election has begun and if that's the case you're taking on the front runner and that is uneek voe kplee donald trump. i think it's money well spent. >> ashley and s.e., thank you both very much. look forward to speaking with you in the coming days. coming up for us, the

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not accurate. devin nunes, house committee chairman who hasn onboard with this idea has not said anything. you wof there was something that supported the idea that nunes and donald trump had you would have heard it. >> and also, i will say, though, paul ryan saying we have more t. that's a lifeline to the president on this one. that is -- that is a -- it's almost like a significant break from the white house for now ish, but he's leaving it open with that statement until he says i've seen nothing and let's put it to rest, and i don't think paul ryan will say that, ough.s talk about pardons. shan, they're preparing pardons for potentially 30 people, and this is a power exclusive to the president. what do you make of this? >> i think it's an extraordinary abuse of that power. the pardon attorney system in the justice department is a very cautious one.