neil: i don t know. i covered at the time. that was a close call. that was a close call. every prominent democrat voted to stop it. you are right nretrospect tdidn t happen and like the prior incidents, it never happened. but i just worry about giving a president of either party cart blanch authority to go ahead and raise the debt ceiling t. does take away, what little incentive and back bone there is to show a back bone, doesn t it? i don t agree. neil, i have a lot of respect for you and this show. i just don t agree with you. what i wish would happen right now, let paul ryan the republicans are in control of the house. they have a budget committee chairman who is nationally regarded, vice-president of the republican party. let him hold hearings, engage the american people, pass a budget, challenge the democrats to meet him halfway neil: i am not saying [overlapping dialogue] neil: but they do come up with budgets. the senate has yet to introduce