I wont sugar coat this, this is a disappointing day for us. Democrats are declaring victory. Today is a great day for our country. Its a victory. Tonight, senator Bernie Sanders on how it fell apart after seven years of promising repeal. Real change begins with immediately repealing and replacing the disaster known as obamacare. [ cheers and applause ] and where we go from here with Michael Moore. I think we have to let obamacare go its way for a while. And another escalation in the devin nunes debacle when all in starts right now. Nobody knew health care could be so complicated. Good evening from los angeles, im chris hayes. Obamacare is alive and trumpcare is dead. And the Republican Party with control of the white house and majorities in both the senate and House Of Representatives is reeling tonight after failing to
achieve what has been their single biggest goal for the past seven years and the numberone agenda item of Donald Trumps presidency. Minutes before it was due for a vote
there s an indication that that s the way we re leaning. there was some spirited discussion over whether we should move forward or not on the vote. what is your message to those who have skepticism? we ve talked to senator portman and murkowski and they may have voted last time but now you re firing with live ammo and that does change the contents. well, the message to the american public is obamacare has failed. if you look at the individual market, if you re a plumber and your wife trying to buy insurance, obamacare has failed you. the prices are rising, double digits, in fact, 100% is the average that prices have risen for those in the individual market. so, obamacare has failed. the death spiral of obamacare continues. even with partial repeal, obamacare will still be in place and obamacare will still be a drag on the insurance markets and making it difficult for people to buy insurance. but isn t that why they re a little bit reluctant because there is no firm commitment tha
small businesses can t afford it. steve: sure. we have talked for years about the impact on the individual person who is getting the insurance. but sometimes we don t talk as much about the actual business. if have you a certain number of employees, then have you good to cover them and pay for them. if you have too many, or if the person is full time, you think you know, i really can t afford that i m going to have to cut them back from had 0 hours a week to 30 hours a week so i don t have to buy their healthcare. g.d.p. right now is anemic. 07 growth in the country right now. we want small businesses to grow from 49 to say 100 employees. obamacare has, perhaps stopped or prevented them from growing their business. because if they don t want to insure they re employees you have to pay a penalty. some employers may have paid. the harsh reality is those small businesses that do have
doesn t inspire me and the importance of know whag you are talking about when you are trying to pass legislation. well, obviously, you know, needless to say, one would think when you run for president of the united states, as trump successfully did, that you might want to know something about some of the most important issues face thg country, like health care. you might think that would be the case. remember a month ago, trump said boy, this health care thing is complicated. no kidding, it really is. i think the problem is, while obamacare has, in fact, done good things, 20 million more people have health insurance. we have ended this disaster of so-called pre-existing conditions, young people can get health insurance through their parents. there s a limit to how much people have to pay if they have a serious illness. what we should also and must understand, chris, is this is
run for president of the united states as trump successfully did that you might and with to know something about some of the most important issues facing this country like health care. you might think that would be the case. you ll remember a month ago trump said, boy, this health care thing is complicated. well, no kidding, it really is. but i think the problem is that while obamacare has, in fact, made done some good things, 20 million more people have health insurance, we have ended this disaster of so-called pre-existing conditions, young people can get health insurance through their parents, there s a limit to how much people have to pay if they have a serious illness.