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Undocumented or not doesnt matter. >> as long as they fill the detention facilities for days, months, or even years. >> sb-1070 and their copy cat laws sprouting up across the country represent the perfect money machine. >> joining me now is andrew gillam director of leadership program at the people for the american way foundation. thank you for joining me tonight, andrew. >> thank you for having me, lawrence. >> andrew, i am a half alert political observer. how is it this group could exist sinc...

Laws sprouting up across the country represent the perfect money machine. >> joining me now is andrew gillam director of leadership program at the people for the american way foundation. thank you for joining me tonight, andrew. >> thank you for having me, lawrence. >> andrew, i am a half alert political observer. how is it this group could exist since 1973 and im just hearing about it today? >> its an amazing phenomenon. alec has been around since 1973 and has been an integral part to the web o...

People living around sites. and those people who are drilling. but the reality is that the bill that is being presented today on the floor of the senate is also not going to help with gas prices at the pump because its going to be years before those wells go in the ground. so i think we need to stop the partisan taking sides. and we need to get together and figure out whats going to work in the interest of the country. >> i want to change subjects really quickly to presidential politics a little...

>> joining me now is andrew gillam director of leadership program at the people for the american way foundation. thank you for joining me tonight, andrew. >> thank you for having me, lawrence. >> andrew, i am a half alert political observer. how is it this group could exist since 1973 and im just hearing about it today? >> its an amazing phenomenon. alec has been around since 1973 and has been an integral part to the web of conservative organizations being pushed by youve already mentioned the k...

Walkoff winners in the ballpark. more sports in 20 minutes. and president obama, is he losing ground in the african-american community? well ask a veteran political observer and businessman next. >> the number of death threats on him and his family and anyone close to help i though had to be tough. like i said, thats why im here. >> after jackie robinson broke the color barrier, fewer african-americans are carrying the torch. well investigate why. its true. you never forget your first subaru.

the killing of osama bin laden, new details. we have correspondents covering all angles. theyll join us at the top of the hour. but first politics. ron paul wants president obamas job. he announced his intentions earlier today and plans a news conference at the top of the hour. the republican congressman joins newt gingrich in the gop race for the white house. a long time political observer, broadcaster and businessman has a new book, fail up, lessons from building successes from fai...

And especially about their marriages. okay? that said, a few weeks back maria shriver posted a video asking people to tell her how they handle transitions in their lives. a casual observer would say she was figuring out how to move on as the former california first lady. take a listen. >> like a lot of you, im in transition and people come up to me all the time and go, what are you doing next? what are you going to do? >> what are you going to do? so i guess people are still asking that question...

Agree with you. it doesnt seem like the republicans are coalescing around a candidate. perhaps thats a good thing. we need a lively debate and see who these people are. do you have a republican guy who has impressed you? >> first, let me say it is not unusual that there isnt a coalescing around a particular candidate this far in advance of the primaries. it should be the primaries where you get a sense who is going to end up leading the party. and i would point out that watch that call it, obama...

Agree with you. it doesnt seem like the republicans are coalescing around a candidate. perhaps thats a good thing. we need a lively debate and see who these people are. do you have a republican guy who has impressed you? >> first, let me say it is not unusual that there isnt a coalescing around a particular candidate this far in advance of the primaries. it should be the primaries where you get a sense who is going to end up leading the party. and i would point out that watch that call it, obama...

I mean, its amusing when you read it, the colorful language, the schemes. if youre an observer of chicago politics, you want to figure out who said what about who, it was great, but it didnt help convict. thats why theres just going to be less material, less charges, more streamline, hoping the government -- the government hopes to make their case better and more effective. i dont think this trial will last as long as the one last summer. >> shepard: i love a good circus. only hopes this one tur...