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MSNBC The Last Word With Lawrence ODonnell June 4, 2024 02:07:00

Charged with if donald trump went to the capitol on january 6th? >> in the days leading up to the sixth, we had conversations about potentially leading up to obstructing justice or defrauding the electoral count. >> lets hear about some of those concerns that you mentioned earlier in one of your interviews with us. >> having a privatization private conversation with pat late in the afternoon, the third or the fourth, that pat was concerned -- it looked like we were obstructing justice, obstructi...
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CNN Anderson Cooper 360 June 4, 2024 05:22:00

Fourth. pat was upset we would mess -- sorry about my legal terms here. that it would look like we were obstructing what was happening on capitol hill. he was also worried it would look like we were inciting a riot or encouraging a riot at-capitol. >> i mean, is that the closest were going to get to pat cipollone testifying? >> probably. but its enormously important in and of itself. because one of the crucial issues is what did thepeople in vauchblt here, including the president know what was i...
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CNN Anderson Cooper 360 June 4, 2024 01:22:00

Being very firm with my legal terms here, but that it would look like we were obstructing what was happening on capitol hill, and he was also worried that it would look like we were inciting a riot oren co encouraa riot at the capitol. >> is that the closest well get to pat cipollone actually testifying? >> probably, but its an important moment in itself, because one of the crucial moments here is what did the people involved here, starting with the president, know what was illegal? you know, di...
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MSNBC MSNBC Reports June 4, 2024 15:08:00

Hearing to keep the hearings in the forefront and drive the knife in during a week when republicans are reeling politically and from the aftermath of overturning of roe v. wade. >> barbara, legally speaking, and correct me if im wrong because im not a lawyer, there are two critical pieces to proving the crime of obstructing, one, that their actions obstructing the proceeding, and two, that the people involved had corrupt intent. do you think hutchison can provide that evidence? what will you be ...
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CNN Attack on Democracy The January 6th Hearings June 4, 2024 17:46:00

With pat late in the afternoon of the 3rd or the 4th. that pat was concerned it would look like we were obstructing justice or obstructing the electoral college count. i apologize for not being probably very firm with my legal terms here, but -- that it would look like we were obstructing what was happening on capitol hill, and he was also worried that it would look like we were inciting a riot or encouraging a riot to erupt on the capitol, at the capitol. >> in fact, in the days before january ...
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MSNBC The January 6th Hearings The House Investigates June 4, 2024 17:46:00

With path, late in the afternoon of the third or fourth that pat was concerned it would look like we were on instructing justice, or obstructing the electoral college count. i apologize if im not perfect with my legal terms here. but he was also worry thad it would look like we were enciting a riot or encouraging a riot at the capital. >> president trump expressed to multiple aides that he wanted to go to the capitol after his speech. here is what various aides told the committee about the presi...
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MSNBC The January 6th Hearings The House Investigates June 4, 2024 01:10:00

Because if any of them had been pardoned, they could turn around the next day and the asked to testify against trump, and if they were, they cant plead the fifth, which jeffrey clark did 105 times. so, did former president trump not pardon them because it would hurt him? thats the question i have. >> and given that he pardoned roger stone and steve bannon and others, the self-interest seems to be a big issue here -- >> michael flynn, putin, making things better for paul manafort. but this would ...
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MSNBC The January 6th Hearings The House Investigates June 4, 2024 05:10:00

Not pardon them because it would hurt him? thats the question i have. >> given that he pardoned roger stone and steve bannon and others, the self-interest really seems to be a big issue here -- >> michael flynn made things better for paul manafort. but this would touch him, this would hurt him. >> all this talk about blanket pardons, this isnt bed, bath and beyond. you cant just say you get a pardon for everyone of our all-time, and wrap yourself in it. the nixon example is interesting, that the...
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