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Been reported about the target letter, that trump received on sunday, it was that i could see an indictment here that doesnt deal with january six little. in fact, many people have commented that. and it could be part of smith strategy to kind of separate the case and put it into different indictments. and we will know soon enough i think. >> when you ever worked for him, did you ever think that it would be a situation like this, where he has, you know, tyson adele, maybe thrice indicted? >> wel...

Microscopic. >> interesting. the conspiracy to defraud the u.s. seems fairly straightforward in terms of what that portends and actually means, barb, but what about tampering with the witness? we spend some time talking at the top of the show about how tampering with the witness might not actually mean tampering with a witness, similar, but that it could actually be that umbrella for a potential obstruction of an official proceeding charge. what do you think this might mean, barb? >> my guess is...

Communist columnist for the los angeles times. and harry, what do you make by way of what we are getting in terms of specificity on the target letter, in these three possible areas of a possible indictment of donald trump by the january 6th grand jury that jack smith has empaneled? >> so, first, i am ready to call it an indictment, a -- indictment. target letters with, as night follows day, or followed by indictments. secondly, in terms of the charges two of them are quite well vetted end and wh...

Testimony of witnesses like former white house aide cassidy hutchinson. it could also be the same obstruction of an official proceeding section that the doj has used over and over again to prosecute january 6th defendants, the qanon guy and stewart rhodes the head of the oath keepers. it could also be both, we dont know. we dont know a lot, but what we do know is this. the other two statutes in projects mid target letter were described to nbc news as conspiracy to defraud the united states and t...

Are watching this unfold, and you know jack smith has been investigating in georgia, what are you thinking? if you are the district attorney of fulton county? >> yeah. you know, this is unusual, to have so many jurisdictions, both state and federal involved in prosecuting the same target. so, there is no rule thats is, for example, first in, first out. first indictment means first trial. so, i dont necessarily believe that we are going to see the first federal trial down in florida. the document...

Hutchinson. it could also be the same obstruction of an official proceeding section that the doj has used over and over again to prosecute january 6th defendants, the qanon guy and stewart rhodes the head of the oath keepers. it could also be both, we dont know. we dont know a lot, but what we do know is this. the other two statutes in projects mid target letter were described to nbc news as conspiracy to defraud the united states and the deprivation of rights. the conspiracy to defraud -- could...

To take advantage of the judicial system, in my book i referred to it as obstruction of justice as a way of life. it wasnt that he played close to the edge. he didnt acknowledge there were edges. it was probably only a matter of time that he did something that could result in an actual criminal trial. but again, the equities here, a prosecutor has to decide. many of trumps critics, of whom im one, miss the point. its not impeachment that stops him. its not indictment that stops him. its convicti...

Then, lets move to what is labeled as witness tampering. but when you look at the u.s. code -- ive got my big ugly blue book of federal laws here. i never leave home without it. the united states code -- you look under the witness tampering statute and there are more than 30 crimes. one of them is obstct an official proceeding. that is the obstruction of the certification of joe biden. who is the victim? congress. and then when you look at the deprivation of rights, who is the victim? we, the pe...

But that voters in battleground states, where the fake electors were advanced, their rights wouldve been interfered with by convincing mike pence to disregard the legitimate votes of folks in those 5 to 7 states. maybe somewhere in between, every voter in the country, and something much more microscopic. >> interesting. the conspiracy to defraud the u.s. seems fairly straightforward in terms of what that portends and actually means, barb, but what about tampering with the witness? we spend some ...

To understand. what does that mean? >> what it is is basically saying that you used your authority as a president at the united states to essentially deprive or undermine -- so every one of us has an opportunity to have our votes counted, are more votes to mean something, but by engaging the process and doing so as the president, at the time when you were still president, you sought to undermine one at the most core fundamental principles of american democracy which is, you all have a vote, and ...