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Rep. Jamie Raskin (D-Md.) fights to defend American democracy during Donald Trumps presidency and second impeachment trial while coping with the personal...

And i wonder one of the crimes tond which trump was referred criminally by the committee was obstruction of an officialwa proceeding. are thesest acts also part of wt will be scrutinized by d.o.j. as that obstruction? >> so i suspect that d.o.j., for whatever reason, has moved past the recommendations in the mueller report. many of them will be out of the statute ofil limitations by now. theres a iofive-year statute o limitations on prosecuting federal crimes. and perhaps hindsight will view tha...

The certification was illegal. the threshold for the first charge, obstruction of an official proceeding is actually consciousness of wrong doing. thats actually a lower bar than maybe some of the other criminal statutes. so i think that the justice department can build upon what the committee found and the evidence that the committee obtained and turned that into some sort of prosecution memo. i think thats where the justice department heads next. >> the january 6th committee dissolves tomorrow...

Investigation, its own interviews everything else. but now that weve turned the page on the january 6th select committee, what does the department of justice take from that and where does that investigation stand? >> i think the select committee gave a real head start to the justice department with respect to the political elements of kind of january 6th and trumps effort to overturn the election. a lot of the statutes that the justice department got a referral about, stuff like inciting insurre...

But a lot of what she said, isnt thats holding water so far. >> jill wine-banks? >> well its hard being the last when you have three billion people perceiving you. all really good witnesses. i would say, just follow and with like him said, which is how everything into relates. and how everything supports. and that all of these witnesses are republicans who worked in the white house. they are people that donald trump chose, they are not people who are opposed to him, they were his supporters. so ...

Am so reminded of. during -- it was always the obstruction is worse than the crime. here the crime is far worse than the obstruction. but when youre burning things in a fireplace, that happens in -- two. it was in the summertime and i cant remember if it was jared who was gonna burn documents. and he said, i cant burn it. theyll see smoke coming out. it will be suspicious. and the head of the fbi used a bird bag, which here they dont bother to use the bird bag, they were just using the fireplace...

I dont know if theyre notes he made. me memos, we dont know. mark meadows has been around long enough to know if this ever came to -- push came to shove and a criminal investigation was launched, he might be in the sights of obstruction for that activity. well need to know more before that is apparent, but its a very dangerous act, particularly since theyre government documents. >> its not just burning the documents. a couple of those episodes were after meadows met with congressman scott perry....

Legal authority. >> carrie, let me follow up. according to one of the transcripts released, the former white house chief of staff meadows burned documents in the lead-up to january 6th. so what stands out to you about his role in all of this? >> well, i do think that the former chief of staff mark meadows is one of the most interesting individuals in this whole series of events, because he really seems to be emerging as pivotal. he was there with the former president, in many meetings. he now ha...

To defraud the united states requires knowledge of fraud. obstruction of an official proceeding requires a corrupt intent. and so to demonstrate those intents one of the things prosecutors can use as evidence is consciousness of guilt. as evidenced by this desire to have blanket pardons. >> you know, pete, on the way out the door trump pardoned a lot of the architects of the coup. he pardoned -- whats his name -- bannon, he pardoned flynn who makes his way into the west wing in all of the days l...

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