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That would be stopping the electoral count. the legal standard is, was there an official proceeding? the answer is yes, obviously, counting electoral votes. and then again there is this corrupt intent that was shown by trumps actions and what he knew. he knew there was an armed crowd, he urged them to storm the capitol and he tried to join them. so it is a big moment. >> an obstruction of a official proceeding is the thing that liz cheney had her -- on. that is the thing she says is the most imp...

Evidence that would tend to not incriminate someone. but if you were thinking through this and looking to see how the evidence could fit together, you might view this lack of an effort to shut down a violent insurrection as circumstantial evidence, that the people who did that, donald trump and mark meadows, that they werent upset about the insurrection because they intended for it to happen. thats quite a leap and i dont mean to suggest that there is proof of that beyond a reasonable doubt. but...

Done a tremendous job of educating the public, and win this politically and weaken donald trump politically and i think there are republicans that are convinced that bill barr, you know, dismissing this idea that the election was stolen, and another aide, bill stepien, saying the same thing, and i think there are republicans who think of trump running again and i, they hear his accounts from republicans, including cassidy hutchison and there is a fatigue that this person is going to, i think in ...

Her hat on. that is the thing she says is the most important charge here. it is important to note that under the law, in that particular case, the intent to secondary to the actual obstruction of the hearing if that actually took place. david, thank you very much, good to see you as always. david rohde is the executive editor of thenewyorker.com. we appreciate you, thank you for your reporting. >> thank you. >> today the former trump chief of staff, mark meadows, denied the allegation that he so...

The obstruction of congress thread. that led to interference with the certification of the vote -- and perhaps the violence, perhaps they do come together. weve always thought, perhaps that was the case. there is a big difference between perhaps and proof beyond a reasonable doubt. >> right with him matter this important we actually have to make sure no stone is left unturned. thank you as always, former u. s. attorney, joyce vance. and just a minute we will be joined by a member of the january ...

Counting of electors votes and again, corrupt intent that was shown by trumps actions and what he knew. he knew there was an armed crowd. he urged them to storm the capitol. and he tried to join them. so it is a big moment. >> and obstruction of an official proceeding is the thing that liz cheney is hanging her hat on, that is the thing she says is the most important charge here and it is important to note that under the law, in that particular case, the intent is secondary, to the sbul instruct...

Saying the same thing. i think that there are republicans who think of trump running again, and i think they hear these accounts, including cassidy hutchison, and there is a fatigue that this person is going to come back, who is so erratic. i think the committee succeeded there. but in the end, it will be the justice department. and again, i heard today from a former official who is very much a centrist, actually a defender of bill barr. he felt that the cassidy hutchison evidence brought a crim...

Point where were seeing these two thread, the obstruction of congress thread, that had to interfere with the certification of the vote and perhaps the violence, perhaps they do come together, weve always thought perhaps that was the case. there is a big difference between perhaps and beyond a reasonable doubt. >> and with a matter this important, we actually have to make sure no stone is left unturned. joyce thanks as always. great to see you. former u.s. attorney joyce vance. in just a minute...

0 moments in american history, and it really helps to clarify what we saw on january 6th. the seditious tradition in american life. and the very real warning sense of what was actually happening, cnn documented, by people at the time. remember, those tactics, the armed violence and the coup, the attempt to overturn an elected government like in wilmington, it worked overtime. it worked. and the free black people in the south, many of those jurisdictions, did not see their freedom, their true dem...

>> well, i dont have any further details on that right now. ill just say that i found her testimony 100% credible. she would have no reason to make any of that up. the committee remains determined to get all of the evidence we can from all of the material witnesses that are out there. so well continue to pursue all of the facts and all of the leads. >> one last question we are out of time, liz cheney at the end of this hearing pointed out what sure did sound like witness tampering, saying that p...