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Points of leverage with egypt. the military receive $1.3 billion a year from the u.s. and that kind of leverage has been very important in recent weeks where u.s. officials made very clear to the egyptian military that excessive use of force would not be tolerated. massacres on the street would not be tolerated. in that sense, the international community, the u.s. in particular have a major role to play here and the obama administration is going to have to keep up pressure and follow through to ...

With western european friends especially the british and the germans. and today all supporters stood firmly together for an orderly transition, one that leads to a democracy but one that also ensures we dont have chaos on the way there. >> and i want to bring in mona here because, mona, obviously, the egyptian people -- even my experience there, they are very friendly to americans. but always against u.s. policy, foreign policy. there seems to be people saying that there is a hypocrisy here. how...

Interests there related to help on terror. >> are you saying it will be seen as betraying an ally and that message will be heard in saudi arabia and elsewhere? >> thats right, i think it will degrade our leadership with the intelligence services in the country and help us in the anti-terror fight and i think it creates problems for israel as well so im saying to support the opposition and let these events unfold, but do not be seen publicly depo deposing them. >> what do you think about that arg...

The military be playing in this? >> look, we have had -- i should say this, too, theres obviously a number of call and contacts that happen between our government and counterparts and the egyptian government. we are, thus far, pleased at the restraint that has taken place and encourage that even as we see reports of increased participation tomorrow by protesters that calm and nonviolence, once again, carry the day on both sides. so again, its our belief that, first and foremost, this has to be -...

About the universal human rights of people. hes on several occasions directly confronted the president mubarak on it. >> and we know that just after president mubaraks resignation last week, president obama, you see him there, spoke with him on the phone with a similar message, the level of support that mubarak can expect from the white house will depend largely on how the government there deals with this crisis. >> well, doug, obviously, president obama prodding president mubarak some way, cutt...

>> neil: the military vehicles are outside the expensive homes protesting them. this is a french revolution deal. >> another thing is how fast this happens. the obvious thing to look at egypt is iran. the return of the ayatollah. it happened over years. 78 is when it began and then the shaw leaves in 79. now in twitter age and internet age, all of that compressed like this. forget about putting a tank in front of my house. take me to the airport. >> neil: but you are a guy that trades stocks and...

Egyptian government throughout entities in this building, throughout this administration, the pentagon obviously is in touch with the military, the state department is in touch directly with the government and in touch with the foreign ministry. again, there are conversations that are had in many different buildings on on many different levels. >> you have repeatedly said that the u.s. is urging for reform in egypt. >> yes. >> what type of reforms concretely are you urging for? and is this reali...

That was an interesting line. obviously, doesnt get the mood of the country. >> never did. interesting part of that, one thing about earmarks, trust but verify. those always tend to find their way back into the appropriations they come under another name. >> sean: obama said this in his campaign, then signed the bill, 9,000 earmarks. >> i think reid is wrong. and i think you are right. reid doesnt get the mood of the country. >> sean: why didnt obama do it the first time? >> why didnt mitch mcco...

Administration. that the pentagon obviously is in touch with the military. the state department is in touch directly with the government and the foreign ministry. there are conversations that are had in many different buildings and many different levels. >> you have said the u.s. is urging reform in egypt but concretely what types of reforms are you urging? and is this realistic? the same region has been in power -- the same regime has been in power for 30 years. >> i outlined a couple of things...

That was an interesting line. obviously, doesnt get the mood of the country. >> never did. interesting part of that, one thing about earmarks, trust but verify. those always tend to find their way back into the appropriations they come under another name. >> sean: obama said this in his campaign, then signed the bill, 9,000 earmarks. >> i think reid is wrong. and i think you are right. reid doesnt get the mood of the country. >> sean: why didnt obama do it the first time? >> why didnt mitch mcco...