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We have a nuclear war. that is where we cannot and do not want to go. is there an off-ramp? it appears as though that off-ramp is going to be quite a ways away. putin is determined. he is now talking about sub subjugating, actually into and part of russia. where are we going to go with this? i always thought if these photos, these videos that are so prominent on western television, if they were in the hands of the russian people, the russian people could see these, what they are actually doing t...

But they will have to resolve on the battlefield one way or the other before they turn back to meaningful negotiations, but the fact that their meeting is an opportunity, when both sides agree that there needs to be an off ramp, but for now it is going to be largely symbolic and possibility rather than showing any progress at the table. ., ., ~ showing any progress at the table. ., ., ~ . ~ table. looking back in the world and _ table. looking back in the world and europe - table. looking back i...

Sanctions? yeah. >> because of the ukrainians military success, but also quietly working to try to figure out how to give him that off ramp weve been talking about now for a month or two? >> what would it be? >> because, again, i mean to further corner putin would be to invite tactical nuclear weapons. he has made the threat every day it seems. >> yeah, yeah. well, he has made a terrible decision here, right, and it is reflective by the way i think of the isolation in which putin operates. we ca...

So, look, theres always room for diplomacy. providing an off-ramp that is suitable to ukraine. second, if europe is this concerned, as they should be, the ultimate weapon that i think they have left is to shut off the energy supply. this is the most sacred thing to russia. and finally, making sure we truly give ukraine all the weapons they need to defend themselves. >> so its your argument that nato should be looking at the spirit and not the letter of the law, if the law is article 5:00? >> you...

Happens? >> i think the inclusion because ukraine president zelenskyy has been asking for air power. he got armed drones from turkey even before the war. theyve proved very helpful both in shooting at russian forces but also in finding, surveilling and locating russian targets. so anything that the u.s. can provide that goes in the air, this is going to be a big help. >> we know that russia is stepping up its assault on kyiv and other parts of the country. russian forces fired more than 950 miss...

That -- ukraine agreeing to not becoming a member of nato might be part of that golden bridge, at least one brick in it. they have to find, if you like a dignified way out is that what a that golden bridge means for president putin. a lot of people will say, of course, that man does not deserve any dignified exit whatsoever but the reality on the ground and in the air is that they have to give him what other people have called an off ramp, steve. >> steve: there you go, the off ramp could be a b...

Hit at specific times and to impact immediately. so, coupled with the economic fallout and with this kind of psychological isolation of the russian people being frozen out of competing and letting go and celebrating and all of the things that sports do, this is going back to cold war years. where the ussr, where russia was just kept out of everything. and the russian people, the last 20 years or so, have been entering a certain type of lifestyle. and no one wants to return to what it was before....

Its about -- its not just about geo politics, its about economic interest. i want -- i wonder what vladimir putins off ramp is? he needs a face saving measure. is he a quote, unquote. strong man. how does he get out of this with a win? i will tell you i would assume if you ukraine somehow is invited not just into nato but perhaps just into the eu, thats not acceptable to vladimir putin. its getting harder to find a win for vladimir putin. and if there is no win, you wonder what type of desperate...

Surprise to the kremlin? >> i think the general view is it has ban surprise. putin hasnt outwardly said that. he did offer a way today, an off ramp for everyone. he said everyone in the recently could essentially sleep easier if -- this just isnt going to happen but this is what president putin said earlier today -- if ukraine decides it doesnt want to join nato. then he says all of this is over. we no longer need to worry. thats not ukraines position. its not natos position. and actually, that ...

Tonight. what is putins and game with ukraine? my next guest has an idea up, turning me now from turkeys peter, senior fellow at the hudson institute. peter, so theres a lot of psychoanalyzing of latimer putting going on in the united states, some of it seems quite ill-informed. you have a view on this, whats the ultimate goal? >> i think vladimir putin is interested in restoring empire essentially, -- in the work that she published an essay, he began with belarus, now hes moved on to ukraine an...