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And until we take positive steps to do that , we will be in a biden will be in a losing position and we cannot afford that . and whats what kirk is suggesting would indeed be quite an escalation. i mean, the counterargument would be keep sending weapons in mass, allow them to fight to a stalemate that weve seen so far inflict massive russian casualties. then the trick becomes that negotiation. its true . i mean, is there an actual off ramp that is acceptable to the west that ends this conflict t...

Left behind in the cities, alex. >> cal perry, as always, thank you so much for that morning. boarding us now is been, rhodes former deputy national -- to obama and national political analyst. he is the author of after the fall, being american in the world we made. a crushing book as far as where we are right, now ben. let me first future reaction to this latest news about the russians may be moving their forces to donbas and not focusing as much on kyiv. and other major cities. i think a lot of...

Even realistic? >> well, look, i mean, i think to a certain extent the off-ramp is something that u.s. officials i talk to are trying to figure out. i think very senior members of this administration dont see an obvious off-ramp right now. and part of the problem is the maximalist goals with which putin approached the war. as far as u.s. officials were saying publicly and still believe that putin barely believes that ukraine should exist as a sovereign nation. and certainly the goals, according ...

And until we take positive steps to do that, we will be in the buy -- biden will be in a losing position and we cannot afford that. >> pete: what kirk is suggesting would indeed be quite an escalation. i mean, the counterargument would be, keep sending weapons, allow them -- and then it becomes that negotiation. its true. is there an actual off-ramp that is acceptable to the west that ends this conflict that isnt either russia pushed all the way out or ukraine completely taking over. >> i think ...

They do not care about their own people, so they can get in a mode where they say that everyone should go down. they can also, however, want to do something to save face. this is unlikely but because vladimir putin has this total media crack down right now, he could do something to save face like saying, okay, ukraine has accepted permanent neutrality. he could present that as a win. whether that would happen, i do not know. but that could be one out for him. but there is no other off-ramp. he n...

Well, yes, he would." what do you think could be a so—called off ramp for vladimir putin, a way out? there is no way out already. theres just none, unfortunately. i dont see any because for any way out, he needs to be able to claim a victory in ukraine. and there is no way its happening. thats why there is no way out and i think that the sooner the west would recognise that this regime needs to be overthrown and putin personally eliminated, the better it would be. we can do it, russians, ukrai...

Russian control here where they have advanced and then they just wallow up and annex more. or as youre the diplomat, do you have to keep certain things on the table because any diplomacy might be an off-ramp for the killing that continues as we speak? >> so to answer your question, ari. i dont think president zelenskyy has in mind giving up territory. i think going into this negotiation hell be demanding withdrawal. hell be demanding first of all a socfire. that has to happen exactly for reasons...

Russia is reassessing and theyve indicated theyre going to alter their tactics. lets give it some time. the next couple days, the united states working closely with allies and the ukrainian government will be looking for evidence of this shift. >> reassessing, could that be looking for an off-ramp for the war to end? >> well, weve made clear from day one that we want putin to stop this war in ukraine, and we gave him many opportunities in the weeks leading up to february 24th when they went in. ...

Those sanctions but to give them a lifeline, to buy oil, provide oil in the case of north korea and create session purpose financial vehicles that are designed specially to evade sanctions. i think we should expect beijing will do what its done in those two examples of iran and north korea and repeat that for russia. now, the oil sector, oil and gas is the one area that we have not gone all in on. i think that theres some logic in not going all the way just yet, leaving a little bit of space for...

Together, of freedoms of leaders of leaders being replaced an undemocratic normal way and a tolerant multi aspect society. and we are at a rules based system. if you have a rules based system internationally, you can place restrictions on multinational corporations, on fossil fuels companies and you get labor rights. but if you break each country into little warrens ex than any multinational corporations can do whatever they want and have whatever relations they want between individual leaders. ...