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Run. >> david, thank you. see you in the morning. >> don, best of luck. >> thank you. >> great to be with you, as always. >> got to get my sleep. >> i got this for you. get one of these, don. i want you to have one of these, you will need it. >> thank you, david. >> be well. >> real pleasure. >> and warning putin is preparing russian people for a possible nuclear war is an off-ramp in sight. thats a question for defense secretary william cohen. hes next. ♪ sing ♪ ♪ home decor ♪ ♪ cloth...

Putins rhett rinne. we have not seen any reason to adjust our own nuclear posture, nor do we vacations they are preparing to use them. but putin can de-escalate this at any time, and theres no reason to escalate. >> reporter: now t other very important thing that the president said in his comments to those donors in new york city was that he was trying to figure out an off ramp for president vladimir putin, asking how does he find a way out? and this is a question that the president, his top aid...

He has shown a willingness to do really irrational, almost catastrophically and rational things. its not clear how good our sources are to talk to him are. that is what is so frightening. its also not easy to see, as joe biden said, what the off ramp is. assuming that vladimir putin is not opposed, there is not going to be a peace agreement anytime soon, nor frankly should there be. the more success that yet the ukrainians have on the battlefield, the more desperate and dangerous putin becomes. ...

Here? the one danger of having a nuclear weapon as a deterrent is that once you use, it the deterrent effect is gone. >> that is true. i think that the general view among russian experts and nuclear experts is that it is unlikely that russia will use a tactical nuke, or any other weapon. but its possible. odds are, who knows. if its at 20%, 10%, nobody knows. and so that might be dropping it offshore, it might be dropping it in a remote area, hitting a ukrainian facility. but in some ways, i thi...

So he will be able to parlay some kind of negotiated kdefeat into a victory or a stalemate or something like that. i think right now we should just focus on helping the ukrainians win these battles because the pressure he is feeling, it means that he is also going to have to start to live with the reality he is not going to get his cake. he is not going to get ukraine. and we want him to get comfortable with that. and there are plenty of off-ramps, plenty of negotiations. he has said, which is o...

This war. the reality of urban wristbands, frankly, there is no safe -- putin. hes already failed. he failed to conquer ukraine. and he failed to conquer kyiv. hes even failing to hold a territories he wanted to act next and ukraine. he doesnt even control the territory he announced for the russian people in the world, he was annexing. so, we want an off ramp of sorts of visa from an escalation in use of nuclear weapons. but a face saving situation for vladimir putin, might not be possible right...

He went on to speak more length about foreign policy during this fund-raiser tonight, anderson, talking about what he believes, you, know they are still trying to figure out what the off ramp for putin could be in this war that he has been waging since february. saying that he basically believes the russian leader is trying to assess, where can he have this off ramp where he saves face on a global level. but also at home in russia. because obviously that has been a very big concern and big focus...

Comfortable with that. you know? there are plenty of off-ramps, plenty of negotiations. he has even said. which is one of the reasons one wonders whether he is just bluffing. he has said that he is open to negotiations. of course, on his own terms, that maybe. >> right. >> but he is, you know. i think the most important thing to do here is worry less about putin giving putin an off ramp, and just making sure that he can still feel the pressure. >> well, no doubt he has heard about this already. ...

Know fairly well within hes not joking when he talks about potential use of tactical nuclear weapons or biological or chemical weapons because his military is significantly under performing. that is one of the things the president expressed the most concern about is what if putin doesnt have an off ramp, what if hes cornered? what does he do then? no question hes ratcheting up the rhetoric about the prospect of nuclear war, just last week talked about defending russian territory by all means nec...

So it would be a kind of mutual suicide. and he wants to remind people that this is that dangerous, and that is why, dont take the first step. >> so this is a way, then, of giving, i would imagine, and offer, and off ramps, and since this war, started in the beginning of the war, actually happened on cnn with matthew chance. we saw the beginning of the war, we reported on the beginning of the war. what is the off ramp, is there an off ramp, do you see one for putin at this point? >> look, i thin...