proportionality will be a very important determining principle. after important determining principle. after what is happening today in the very clear objective of destroying as much of the ukrainian infrastructures they can come of the fact that a lot of these missiles were coming from crimea if, international community need to look at what they are supplying to ukraine, particularly the longer range missiles which would be able to reach some of these launch sites? i think it is really a no brainer to give i think it is really a no brainer to give to i think it is really a no brainer to give to ukraine. there is really no reason not give to ukraine. there is really no reason not to give it, including if you compared to some the escalations the russians have been part of. frankly. the russians have been part of. frankly, more offensive capability, so the frankly, more offensive capability, so the ukrainians can win this war more so the ukrainians can win this war more quick
missile attacks on soft targets in the ukraine. that seemingly something they are very enamoured with and sadly, i think they will continue to view that on a daily basis. but when you get it to the real aspects of increasing your offensive capability, say taking over air control and the skies of ukraine, they have failed so far. taking over the northern part of the black sea around 0desa, they failed miserably at that. their logistics issues seem to continue, the command control issues continue, and they continue to have significant morale problems. so i think it s more rhetoric than anything else. so wet that that is, rhetoric than anything else. so wet that that is, i rhetoric than anything else. so wet that that is, i mentioned rhetoric than anything else. so wet that that is, i mentioned it - rhetoric than anything else. so wet that that is, i mentioned it dniprol that that is, i mentioned it dnipro here, you mention soft targets, we also saw another place that was also hit,
of cruise missiles and other high technology missile attacks on soft targets in ukraine. that seemingly is something they are very enamoured with, and sadly i think will continue to view that on a daily basis. but when you get to the real aspects of increasing your offensive capability, say taking over air control in the skies of ukraine, they have failed so far. taking over the northern part of the black sea around odesa, they have failed miserably at that. their logistics issues seem to continue, their command and control issues continue, and they continue to have significant morale problems. i think it is more rhetoric than anything else. part of the shipments that are going in to ukraine, there has been an increasing technological sophistication with some of the anti air weapons that are coming from the west. so that may help. again, the proof will be
questions about tanks and ways to fight the battle in two ways. is it to defend themselves or try to have a more offensive capability to push back and defeat russia? and there can be a different answer depending on how you look at the aid packages. it s more than $3 billion the u.s. has provided. partners in europe and elsewhere in nato have been supportive as well. is and the president is also looxing to answer the question of what to do about ukrainian refugees who want to come to the united states. the u.s. believes many want to settle in europe to be closer to family and closer to home but as you pointed out, he s got a new program to make a pathway for them to come here. andrea. and trying to explain how to cut that red tape and not have a replay of what happened with the afghan refugees. your old boss told us this is a pivotal time.
we ve got a great offensive capability. what is our defense look like. and you know, we ve had our colonial oil pipeline compromised. we had jbs and major and we ve had government agencies, including the nsa, actually, compromised by russian hackers. so, then the question becomes, are we prepared for the repercussions. are the american public as divided and polarized as we are? are we ready for russian retaliation in the cyber realm if it impacts our professional and personal lives if we lose our internet, if we use the ability to gas because the electronic system is going to. are we ready for that with this condition where. and i fear we re not. but those are the questions being asked right now at the latest. listen, you brought up a very interesting point about the new roles as they are being written in realtime. i m curious, just because you re an expert in this subject matter, nato if it attack on one, attack on