Paula reid joining us now. this is complicated. everyone thinks they know of the defamation case. there s more than one. let s go through this chronologically. several years ago when trump was in office e. jean carroll alleged he raped her in a department store in the mid 90s. while he was president he responded to this denying the allegation and saying she, quote, wasn t his type. then she sued him for defamation. the trump justice department and attorney general bill barr said, wait a second, as president he has immunity. he can t be sued for things he says while president. that was controversial, but what was more surprising is when president biden was elected and we had a new attorney general, a new justice department, they agreed. they agreed to uphold this immunity protection. now the biden justice department is changing their mind.