Whats happening, he knows what roger knows about him, how much negotiation is there going to go on right now with sentencing coming, the type of prison, whether its allenwood, lewisberg, something much less pleasant, where they dont have a tennis court, where theres white collar criminals or sleaze balls, how much negotiation is the president capable of right now . In terms of where roger stone is sentenced, if hes sentenced to prison, thats not up to anyone other than the bureau of prisons. Didnt barr get involved with Manafo Manafort . The bureau of prisons does report to the attorney general. But in almost every case ive heard of, its a designation based on risk and how much time
is to be served. A second point, i also think roger stone has rendered himself absolutely useless. He has lied almost every time hes opened his mouth. It would be very hard for prosecutors to turn to him now to get Additional Information that they could use against others. Roger stone is useless. Hes a conv
Mean, thats the appropriate way to raise an issue with the ukrainian president , correct . Its appropriate for the Justice Department and the Prosecutor General to cooperate and to exchange information, yes. To the extent the president has concerns and to the extent the Attorney General is having u. S. Attorney durham look into it, isnt it entirely appropriate for the president to flag this for president zelensky and say youn touch with our official channels . Mr. Castor, i dont know the precise appropriateness of these kinds of relations. Now, were either of you involved with the preparation for the 7 25 call . I was not. I was not. How do you account for that . I mean, you were two of the key officials with responsibility for ukrainian policy. If the president of the United States is going to have a call with the leader of ukraine, why
wouldnt you ordinarily be involved with the preparation . Sir, we work for the Department Of State in an embassy overseas. Preparation for a president
went away, and, you know, essentially nothing has been further done with regards to burisma. during your tenure in ukraine, has there ever been any focus on reexamining allegations, whether it s of burisma or other powerful interests like sochevsky, reexamining it? is that on the part of the ukrainian government, is that what you re talking about? yes, leaning on the prosecutors general to clean up the oligarchical system? yes. as i mentioned earlier in my testimony, the u.s. was welcoming of mr. lutsenko s nomination to the position of prosecutor general because we were hoping he would clean that up. that in fact is not what
ukrainian is endemic, correct? that is correct. and it affects the courts, the prosecutors and there have historically been problems with all the prosecutors in ukraine, correct? i would say up until the new set of prosecutors appointed by president zelensky in the last two months, correct. okay. so the u.s. government, the real deal, he s a real reformer, he s genuinely interested in rooting out corruption, prosecutoring t prosecuting the bad guys, correct? i would say we are cautiously optimistic and we will work whether there s the political will to do the right thing and put forward genuine reform. at the heart of the corruption is this oligarchical system, correct, where the oligarchs take control often by