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And 4pm in vancouver, where Foreign Ministers from 20 countries are meeting to try to exert concerted pressure on north korea to give up its nuclear ambitions. The group is made up solely of countries which were involved in the korean war more than half a century ago, which means that two Key International players, russia and china, are not there. Barbara plett usher has the latest from canada. Members of an exclusive and its your club have gathered again. These other states that sent troops and aid to help the un effort in the 19505 aid to help the un effort in the 1950s korean war. Now they want to show solidarity in the face of a modern day korean threat. Missing from the guest list was china, an enemy in the 1950s war, but now a crucial ally in confronting pyongyang. The absence left many wondering what could really be achieved. And recent talks between north and south korea have eased tensions on the peninsular so the question was how ministers here would respond. The us took a to

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