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is it, you spent a lot of your working life doing other stuff beyond all things politics, to what extent when you see the headlines that we ve seen around this place in the last week or so is it illustrative of the society at large and the problems that society at large has, or something that is somehow worse here, for whatever reason that might be? i think it is because i worked ten years in the nhs, then ran my own business before i got into politics and i had been in politics for quite a long time as well because i m pretty old! i have been around a while and i think it s actually getting worse. do you? worse? what i had to deal with when i got here you know, mansplaining and just being treated like, you know, i don t know, a secretary, all that kind of stuff. having to speak very loudly to be heard. having to speak over men in meetings. not being listened to when you spoke up and i had to deal with that kind of stuff. but i think there are changes happening in westminster. i always