spring we ve been watching. it s been 18 months of this debate. what has that time cows, if you will as a country? what risks are now surfacing because we have waited this long, at least to say what the red line is? well, there is no really easy or ad advantageous for the united states to take. the international community stood as one in taking on gadhafi. on syria the international community is split. an estimated 20,000 people have died. the real challenge is how to you try to prevent genocide and the deaths of thousands of more as long as the regime of president bashar al-assad is still in
removal on gadhafi. just want to make sure we re talking about the same thing before i say, yes, i agree. i know i didn t agree. i do not agree with the way he handled it for the following reason. no, that s a different one. um i got to go back. let s see. i got all this stuff twirling in my head. we ll be right back. nergsecu i and economic growth. north america actually has one of the largest oil reserves in the world. a large part of that is oil sands. this resource has the ability to create hundreds of thousands of jobs. at our kearl project in canada, we ll be able to produce these oil sands with the same emissions as many other oils and that s a huge breakthrough. that s good for our country s energy security
go ahead. it is unbelievable. in the five years leading up to the arab spring, western countries arms sold about $2 billion worth of weapons to the five countries that came down hardest on protesters. how is that that s going to come back to haunt us western nations, isn t it? absolutely. in a whole range of ways. not only because people who if they do take power in some of these uprisings are going to be extremely angry about who armed the dictators that were oppressing them. that s the first instance. the second instance is what they re going to do with the weapons they inherit. and in the process, we re making ourselves and the producing countries poorer, and we re making a lot of incredibly dodgy middle men and agents a whole lot richer. jonathan? andrew, when the rebels in libya were starting their push on gadhafi, there were lots of people in this country
felt he was close with his loyalists. it was district number two. there s been fighting, intense fighting. people wonder, why so intense in this one neighborhood for reasons that are all too clear now. the fighting was closing in on gadhafi, so his loyalists decided to make a run for it and gadhafi decided to try to escape to another part of the city. some people left in cars. it appears now that gadhafi may have left on foot. the knnato strike happened. a gun fight happened. gadhafi was apparently injured in that gunfight, took refuge in this drainage pipe, was pulled out of the drainage pipe by the rebels, the rebels slapped him around, insulted him, pulled his hair, shot him at least one more time again, loaded him into a car, and then executed him with a gunshot bullet to the head. so much more ahead to see how
money that as these things occur not just now but in the future we can handle them without having just borrowing more money and that s a good thing for everybody, regardless of your political affiliation, regardless of where you live in america. every night the reverend al sharpton promises to feature a lively debate of the day s top headlines. don t miss the brand new politics nation weeknights at 6:00 eastern on in the nbc, the place for politics. there are new developments in the ongoing battle for libya. the wife and three children of hunted libyan leader moammar gadhafi have fled to neighboring algeria. the exit of the family is the latest and surest sign the embattled leader has lost control of the country. spokesman for libyan rebels says they consider algeria s harboring of gadhafi s family an act of aggression vowing to pursue their extradition. rebel forces have closed in on