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Is. >> laura: oh, is it? here is what sondland actually said about quid pro quo. he said that i, i said the resumption of usa would likely not occur until ukraine provided public anticorruption occurred. i still do not know why or by whom the aide was present in, but i assumed the aide had become linked to the proposed anticorruption statement. in other words, he was offering something called an opinion to the ukrainians about why military aid was held up. gentlemen, congressman devin nunes, ran...

Sounds like a turning point, it is. >> laura: oh, is it? here is what sondland actually i said aboutuo quid pro quo. he said that i, i said the resumption of u.s. aid likely not occur until ukraine provided public anticorruption occurred. i still do not know why or by whom thead aid was presented, bt i assumed the aid had become linked to the proposed anticorruption statement. in other words, he was offering something called an opinion to the ukrainians about why military aid was held up. gentle...