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Transcripts for MSNBC Ayman 20240604 04:08:00

americore linda portland special counsel in the first place he wanted to create separation between what the justice department was doing, and the white house and because he does serve at the pleasure of joe biden and he didn t feel like it was gonna be a good idea for him to directly oversee this. queso, if the white house where to start taking an attack position and using this as a campaign for joe biden, that would put merrick arland in a terrible position, i can t imagine anything worse. for the justice department or for garland, so i don t think you re gonna say that however to your point, that does leave this huge opening rhetorically for donald trump. joe biden, will stay silent because he s not supposed to be using the desk as apartment for

Transcripts for MSNBC Meet the Press 20240604 08:21:00

read the indictment. it s very easy to read filled with statements from trump s own mouth, reported statements, transcribed statements, statements by his own attorneys when the attorney/client privilege was held not applicable in this matter because he was using his attorneys to commit several felonies, felonies dangerous to all of us. he was essentially stockpiling information piles of weapons of mass destruction and showing people. the indictment goes through instances, two from bedminster where he showed top-secret documents, documents about military plans, how we would react if attacked, what are the military strengths and weaknesses of certain adversaries, stuff that he said out loud, this is top secret, i

Transcripts for MSNBC Meet the Press 20240604 08:46:00

next few months, several trump aides and allies are called to appear before the grand jury in washington. and then on june 5th trump and his lawyers go to meet with senior officials including jack smith to discuss the status of the case. three days later, june 8th, grand jury in miami indicts donald trump and walt nauta. on june 9th, the indictment is made public and it shows that trump is now charged with 37 felony counts and nauta is charged with six. and that brings us to today, the moment in which we find ourselves. and on tuesday, june 13th, trump is scheduled to make an initial court appearance at 3:00 p.m. at the federal courthouse in miami, florida. that is how we got to donald trump being indicted twice in three months. where we go from here, only time will tell. we ll be right back. only time will tell. we ll be right back.

Transcripts for MSNBC Meet the Press 20240604 08:19:00

i was shocked by the degree of sensitivity of these documents and how many there were, frankly, and so the government s agenda was to get those protect those documents and get them out, and i think it was perfectly appropriate to do that. it was the right thing to do, and i think the accounts under the espionage act that heelfully retained those documents are solid counts. that was donald trump s former attorney bill barr, the man who stood by his boss for two years, shielding him from legal accountability during his time in the trump administration. now even he thinks this indictment is, quote, very damning, and trump is toast, his word, by the way, not miechblt jack smith s office has made it clear he s seeking a speedy trial that upholds the law and

Transcripts for MSNBC Meet the Press 20240604 08:25:00

but none of those arguments and i thought very hard what they might be. the smoothest way to look at a case is to see what are the best arguments. i keep coming up empty. i don t think they have any good arguments. given how sensitive the material is here, some have talked about the classified information procedures act or what is known as sipa because it deals with the country s most sensitive secrets oop, it means there will be some limits on what can be said in order to ensure the government doesn t expose the national security information of the public? some of the really key evidence might never be accessible to the american people is. that a factor in this? how do you think sip pa will impact the trial and the reception of this case especially to people who as we know with donald trump and his defenders are skeptical of it, politicize it, tell you they re hiding information, they will

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