lot of moving parts, a lot of people to be wary of, difficult operating element. and an area that special forces knows in particular. we know isis is underground now in syria, but there are pockets of isis around the world yet. what we are reporting is the probable leader of the leader of isis. how significant is this? i d say quite, and natalie, you put your finger on it. it s one of the big questions here other than did we gather much intelligence to exploit is what s the big impact going to be. what s the impact going to be on the movement. he of course was an interesting leader. he was a leader for the i.s. and leader of the islamic state. he combined those elements and that makes him a rare figure or special in that regard.