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option. >> no greater mystery in the world than a relationship between husband and wife but it is astonishing and gets to the wonder about the marriage. good morning to you. it's sunday. we are happy to have you here. i'm christi paul. >> i'm martin savidge in for victor blackwell. it is wonderful to be here. let's start off with the news. this morning a glimpse into why president trump is so anxious about the russia investigations and increased his attacks on special counsel robert mueller. >> the president's son under excrete knee to helping set up that 2016 meeting with russians who had promised to dirt on hillary clinton. cnn sarah westwood is in live in new jersey where president trump is on his working vacation. this isn't a new investigation, by any means, nor a new meeting,
but why is president trump concerned about his son now? >> we have known about this meeting for a very long time, but what is only recently come to light is the fact that trump may have had advanced knowledge of this meeting or, very at the least, may have been told about it shorlted afttly after the fa is something the president has dined. michael cohen is preferred to testify to special counselor robert mueller trump had known about the meeting and contradict what donald trump jr. has already told congressional investigators. rudy giuliani, trump's personal attorney, is denying that trump jr. is in legal jeopardy telling cnn n a statement, it is not so. a year of investigating there is no wrongdoing on his part for ma matter or the president. nothing has changed. we are not worried about michael cohen he has no knowledge of
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cross-examination will go along those lines 10, 15 other questions i could ask in that chain of events that would get the jury to say, oh, okay, he has something here, wherein, he lied before, why isn't he lying now? why should we believe him now? i think the answer for prosecutors will be it's not just his word. there is documentary evidence which would substantiate the things he is saying. when you have a white collar prosecution, you have a paper trail as prosecutors have presented which corroborate exactly what occurred. in the case of the accountant, of course, that paper trail remains consistent, but then the question becomes you could have said something, right? you didn't. is there a reason for that? is there a basis for you having immunity? so that exposes them to the jury, but in the final analysis, while it may be good theater, i think the substance of the documents that the government has, just so much to overcome for the defense in the case. >> julian, karl bernstein said
this is worse this watergate. >> karl bernstein was at the center of the watergate. from all of the evidence that has accumulated over part of the scandal, he sees a person in power who, ultimately, is more corrupted than richard nixon. i think it's too early to tell. we are in the middle of investigations, rather than at the end of an investigation, and we have to remember, in the middle of watergate, it wasn't always clear where this was all going. but he is trying to send a powerful warning sign that there is more evidence now, this early in the president presidency, than there was about richard nixon when he resigns really two years after the investigation is launched. >> but we do need to point out that what manafort is on trial for are alleged crimes prior to his dealings with president
trump. donald trump citizen is not involved in anything manafort is talking about in court right now. >> but we have to keep remembering manafort was the head of trump's campaign during a critical period in the campaign. and so this story about who he is and what money problems he had and what he was doing all give shape to the person who was at the very top in the summer of 2016. so that is how the money manafort and the campaign are probably connected in the minds of robert mueller. again, this is an investigation that is in process so we shouldn't jump to conclusions yet. >> exactly. julian zeleny and joey jackson, i'm sorry, but we have run out of time. thank you, gentlemen. >> thank you. >> absolutely. on "state of the union" today, ed royce is on the show as well as former massachusetts governor duval patrick only here
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demonstrations circulated and then throws rocks and bottles and police raunched to disperse the crowd. a missing for a georgia child where they raid add make-shift compound in may. they didn't find the toddler but found 11 children from ages 1 to 15 years old and they say it looked like a third world country rev refugees. authorities believe the women are the children's mothers. another story. it's disturbing. a manhunt in texas for a father who is accused of killing his two young children. houston police say the children's mother found them stabbed to death in their own beds saturday afternoon. the woman told police after dropping off the 8-year-old boy and 1-year-old girl at their
father's apartment he called saying he was going to kill them. police say the couple had been married but recently separated. dozens of buildings and homes are damaged after a tornado touchdown down in webster, massachusetts. it took down trees and power lines and one person we know sustained minor injuries. well, it is hurricane season. and hurricane hector is now a category 3 storm and it's taking aim at hawaii. emergency management officials telling people there to prepare. >> meteorologist allison chinchar has the latest on hector's path. we say hawaii, we say what more can this area take? these people take, allison? >> yeah. we have spent the last few months talking about the volcano that is there but keep in mind hurricanes are not a rare occurrence. in fact, if it makes it to hawaii would be the third one to impact the islands in just the
last four years. they had one in 2014 and another one in 2016. we are talking about hurricane hector. right now winds 125 miles per hour, still gusting to 155 miles per hour. its movement is west about at 12 miles per hour. it's still basically in the middle of the ocean. still well away from hawaii but it's making its way in that direction. it is a category 3 storm right now, but it was just a category 4 just a few hours ago. but we are starting to see where that storm is moving. so let's take a look at where it is now. again, here you can see rounded by water, it's pretty much just in the middle of the pacific ocean. but just south to the west there you can see hawaii off in the distance. it is expected to remain a major hurricane for at least the next several days. that would be a category 3 or higher. it's a very small storm. in scale but typically with those it's hard to gauge intensity. they can go through what is called eye wall replacement cycles and we expect it to
remain a major hurricane until at least tuesday and then at that point this will weaken as it gets closer to the hawaii. this is the good news. if it hits hawaii you want it to be a weaker storm. the closest track takes it on the extreme southern end of the southern island. the kilauea on the north and eastern side. this is where a lot of the evacuations had taken place from a lot of the fissures had erupted. at this point, all they would end up getting is maybe some heavy showers at times with this track but the main portion of the storm would remain down to the south. >> allison chinchar, thank you so much. thinking about those people. >> we are. hopefully, it goes south. according to sources, president trump is concerned that the mueller probe may reach his family.
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25 minutes past the hour on this sunday. you're up early but we are ghaed that y glad that you are. i'm christi paul. >> i'm martin savidge in for victor blackwell. president trump is concerned about his son don jr. and making him lash out to mueller publicly. trump is always insisting his father didn't know anything about the meeting with the russians in the trump tower. joining me now to talk about this is brent who is an opinion columnist for "the hill" and jack kingston, a former senior adviser for the trump campaign. good morning to you both, gentlemen. >> good morning. >> good morning. okay. obviously, any time a man sees his family threatened, we would get defensive, so the president is human in many ways. unlike most folks, he does have
the power to pardon, and i would think don jr. would be the first one in light to get one, if it came to that. and so i'm wondering, basically, jack, do you agree or what? >> well, i think that is way down the road, martin. i think for right now, what rudy giuliani said is a better indication of what is going to happen and he is saying he is 100% confident that michael cohen has nothing to say. michael cohen has said on other occasions that the president did not know about this meeting, but giuliani went on to say there was nothing to this meeting. it was a meal aboeting about ad and didn't morph into any other action. whether information came out about hillary or not, there was no action item that followed up on it. so, you know, based on what giuliani is saying, he is feeling pretty confident there is nothing there. >> yeah. i'm sure he is. i mean, michael cohen made those kind of statements when he seemed to be on the president's team and that does not necessarily seem to be the case,
brett. >> it's amazing. whole thing is just incredible. yes, there was a collusion meeting at trump tower. it was billed as a collusion meeting, which is more fairly described as a conspiracy meeting. where the trump people, including three very close to the president, basically came to a meeting to get illegally obtained russian information to attack hillary clinton. now where i come from there is high odds that is going to be called a crime. i think it was a crime. i think the president has reason to worry about everybody in that meeting from the american side and if it turns out there is evidence that he knew about it in advance, i think he has even more reason to worry and that is a lot of reasons. >> brent, do you think he could bring these charges, obstruction of justice, if that what it will be, before the mid terms? >> i wrote a piece on friday, a column in "the hill" i think it will happen before the mid terms and how it happens remains to be
seen. but i think it's clear there was obstruction. i think what america is witnessing in real-time and rudy giuliani is almost an accessory to this, is a walking, talking, televised obstruction of justice every day. let me tell you. the midterm elections are going to be one day after the 50th anniversary of richard nixon being elected president. think about that. and next week is an anniversary of richard nixon resigning from the presidency and he gave the best speech he had ever given as he was about to leave the white house, one of the best speeches by any president where he said, some may hate you, but they don't win unless you hate them. in which case you destroy yourself. and trump is running around the country every day, most recently lebron james, telling us who -- >> hold on, brent. let's make this a conversation. jack, the manafort case, before we run out of time, i would like to get your thoughts because i'm
wondering how impactful do you believe, especially if there is a guilty verdict, that that would be as far as blow-back against the president and this administration and going forward, the other investigation mueller is focused on? >> i think, based on what brent has outlined they are looking at this thing not a matter of justice but a matter of politics. i think the case against manafort has been, largely, political. just think about this. for tax evasion, only 1% of the people are ever tried now when they go to jail it's like a three to four-year sentence, including, by the way, the maker of beanie babies went to jail and got in ty warner never went to jail. he had tax evasion -- >> what is your point, jack? >> he never went to jail but mueller wants 305 years out of manafort. i think the timing of it is suspicious. the fact he has nine prosecutors who donated to hillary clinton. i think all of this is really a smear on the justice system.
>> what about the evidence, jack? there is a significant amount of bookkeeping evidence. this is documents here. it's not just political rhetoric that is very, very suspicious. >> i'm saying this is a high profile case has nothing to do with president trump and that is one thing that the democrats don't want to admit but this was all for a potential crimes that had nothing to do with his short-term relationship with the trump campaign. >> i got it. okay. let's talk about this special election that comes up this week, because many people look at this as just a precursor of the midterms and i'm wondering, jack, how is it the president who won the 12th district there in central ohio, won it by 11 points but now the latest polling shows that the democrat and republican are almost neck and neck. how does that happen and what do you think has happened? >> i think the intensity is just there for the democrat party. it always is against the party in power of the white house and history is blowing in the face of -- the wind is blowing in the face of the republicans right
now. we had that same situation in georgia with the karen handle election as you know. both sides on a national basis pours in millions and millions of dollars. republicans eked out a win in which should have been easy, but when you're in an election year like this with the country very divided, you're going to have these tough races. >> and, brent, do you think the outcome of this race, in the 12th district, is the outcome of this fall? >> well, i think what you're seeing, across the country is not only a surge of enthusiasm among people, democrats but also many republicans who are really appalled by what trump is doing and they want to have change. i think what is going to happen in the election in ohio shows how much better democrats are doing even in a district that republicans should win by 20 points. i don't think it was a very shrewd strategy for the president to insult and tack and demean lebron james who is highly popular in ohio right before the ohio election.
i think it's absolute insanity. right now, his wife is disagreeing with him to her great credit about lebron james and his daughter ivanka is disagreeing with -- >> we are going to talk about tla later in the program. who do you think is going to win come tuesday in ohio? >> we will keep the seat and keep it because the economy is strong, opportunities are great, consumer optimism is high. and unemployment is at an all-time low and people don't want to change that. they like jobs. >> brent, real quick. >> i think it's a 50/50 race. i think democrats win the house in the midterm elections, possibly by more than people think because voters are fed up and want change from what we are getting from trump, period. >> brent budowski and jack kingston, good to see you both this morning. >> thank you. >> thanks, gentlemen. venezuela says there was an assassination attempt on its president. we are going to show you what happened. [ speaking in foreign language ]
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soldiers injured in that attack. they were part of a nato train and advise and assist mission the there. colombia is denied they were involved in an assassination attempt benefit the president d madu maduro. you saw the charges happen there near the president. there is his wife reacting to the first blast. another view shows soldiers scatterering after the second explosion. maduro said some have been captured in the attack. colombia's outstanding president, a source tells cnn maduro's allegations are
baseless. president trump has sent more military personnel for protection. i rode along withed borrow the patrol to find out what is happening. >> reporter: maybe you're expecting to see military trucks and troops on the border. they are not here. instead of hunting human traffickers or drug smugglers this sergeant is tracking down a pickup truck's electrical problem. he is a mechanic. specialist ndurrduran is at the border but he has a welding torch. some national guard troops have even served by cleaning the stalls at border patrol stables. operation guardian support is a long way from the president's tough talk of military mite. >> until we can have a wall and proper security, we are going to be guarding our border with the
military. >> reporter: you're not armed, correct? >> correct. none of our soldiers or airmen are not armed. >> reporter: they are out there walking beside the border patrol agents? >> correct. these are positions back off the border. >> reporter: in 2006, the bush administration sent 6,000 soldiers to the border. in 2010, president obama sent 1,200 but they were in full gear and armed. when specialist duran is welding at the border he needs two special agents to protect him since he is not allowed to carry his gun. is it possible the public has a wrong idea of what the mission is about? >> it's a support role. >> reporter: despite their diminished role, national guard troops are making a difference. the u.s. border patrol has more
vehicles. on patrol. thanks to senior airman adrienne ma guy ver as she and other guard members guard remote cameras. this is a first to get a sense what is going on it border. good and bad. >> is it good? >> yes. >> is it busy? >> yes. extremely. >> reporter: so far according to the u.s. border patrol the national guard has facilitated arrests and possession of drugs along the border. >> you're looking at border. >> reporter: sitting beside stephanie dixon looking out from her lonely perch from the border, there is not a senior soldier in sight. people thought they would be patrolling along the fence here and guns over their shoulder and
ride along with you. that is not happening? >> no. they are helping out the overall mission and putting more of us out here on the border to secure the border. >> reporter: border agent dixon may not see the soldiers, but she is glad they are here. somewhere. the use of the national guard is actually funded by the federal government, but it's the states that provide the troops and the funding for all of this is right now scheduled to run only through the end of september. after that, no one knows if the mission is going to be extended. christi? >> thank you, martin. first lady melania trump distanced herself from president trump's criticism and praising james' charity work. we will have more on that in a moment. the new sleep number 360 smart bed.
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president attacked james on twitter, her spokeswoman put out a statement saying lebron james was working to do good things on behalf of our next generation and that the first lady would actually be open to visiting his new school. i promise, that is a school for at-risk children. here is the thing. the statement also mentioned the importance of responsible online behavior with her be best initiative. cnn senior media correspondent and host of reliable sources brian stelter is here. a couple of things stand out to me. how about you? >> this started on a quiet friday night and president trump was apparently watching cnn and don lemon's interview with lebron james. a lot of our viewers saw it back on monday but it was re-airing on friday. the president was up late at night, apparently, it angered the president. lebron james did have some criticism for trump in the interview. kind of mild criticism, to be honest, but lebron said he would not sit down with the president if invited. that might have poked the president in some way. so you have president trump on
twitter insulting both don lemon and lebron james and what happened in the 24 hours after is so interesting. you know? you saw michael jordan, hillary clinton, and even melania trump all standing up for lebron james. an interesting combination of figures. here is part of the statement from melania trump. remember, this is all about lebron's school and his foundation in akron, ohio, that is helping the community. so melania trump came out and said, sounds like he is doing great work. community and, quote t looks like lebron james is working to do good things on behalf of our next generation. the first lady encourages everybody to have open dialogue about issues facing children today. here is a key part from the first lady's spokeswoman stevan grish grisham. you can imagine that moment, right? if president trump is criticizing lebron james
intelligence and the first lady goes and visits the school? well, we will see if that happens. this is another example of the first lady really publicly distancing herself from her husband. she doesn't have to comment. she didn't have to weigh in. but she decided to do that and, as a result, here we are. >> doesn't it take you into that moment? i just would love to know what happens after this happens and the first time the president sees melania and what he says. i have a synergy looking at him and saying, i'm going to do what i want to do. she is a brave, bold woman. >> no greater mystery than the marriage of a husband and a wife and true for all marriages and i wouldn't sit here and try to psycho analyze the trump marriage. it's a unique relationship. i think any husband or wife would look at this and say they have something going on. maybe melania trump wants to be very clear she is her own woman and wants to promote her be best campaign. certainly this fits into the be
best campaign about respect and kindness. the president is being questioned for that tweet and for his criticism of high profile african-americans. you know, i saw a journalist like dan rather and sports writers like bill simmons coming out and saying this is racist to see the president going after the intelligence of african-american leaders. that is something that continues to be debated on social media all weekend long. >> all righty. but then didn't he say i like mike? >> michael jordan. >> to michael jordan. >> michael jordan came out and supported lebron james so it might have back-fired in that case. >> brian stelter, thank you much. you will see him on brian stelter, "reliable sources" at 11:00 today only on cnn. don't miss it. for those who are going through right now, there is hope! you do have hope! there is something on the other side of this! >> an incredible message of hope from new hall of famer brian
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with the track history of lying to his face. >> dana: with the account at that particular time that peter doocy was reporting on. she testified on friday. she said she felt like it was wrong but she did it anyway. is she in any sort of trouble? >> well, sounds like not. i mean, one the tactics you can do as a prosecutor is saying basically look, i'm viewing you as a witness. i'm not making you any promises. you get up on the stand and tell the truth. the person gets up on the witness stand and kind of hard to impeach by cross-examination because they say i could still be charged. and they are kind of twisting in the wind a little bit. it gives them some credibility. i know there is a number that were immunized. she might have been one of them. >> dana: how awkward is it for the defendant to be there paul manafort and rick gates, colleagues for a long time, partners and now obviously on opposite sides of this very high stakes trial. how awkward is that for the lawyers in the room as well? >> look, that's pretty common in federal cases to see cooperators who had some
sort of preexisting relationship with the defendant. so, they are probably not going to give each other a little fist bump or high five as they pass. but i wouldn't expect a lot of theater either. most likely manafort's attorneys have said do not react. do not do anything but take your notes and let him do his thing. >> dana: i want to change topics really quickly because this trial we are talking about is not about collusion in any way. the story though that the white house and president trump's lawyers are still thinking about whether think would work with mueller to find some accommodation for interview of some sort or written answers. rudy giuliani, the president's top lawyer saying they will make that decision the next day and a half or so, but, listen, also, to the other trump lawyer jay sekulow talking about the donald trump meeting at trump tower and how he says he had wrong information i want to get your take on, this watch. >> a lot of information gathering as my colleague
rudy giuliani said i had bad information at that point. i made a mistake in my statement. as far as when did we correct it? the important part is the information that we've shared with the office of special counsel, i'm not going to get into the details. but we were very clear as to the situation involving that trip and statements made to the "new york times." >> dana: is there anything at all to be done or said about the trump team saying they had bad information from the president's son? >> yeah. you know, i think their message has been so scattered that it's kind of hard to take any of that all that seriously at this point. the message that comes out has been very inconsistent from the white house. i understand it's a pretty difficult situation in terms of your client being on twitter all day long. but they need to have a single message and convey that consistently. >> dana: james, are you new here? i don't think that's going to happen. let me ask you about one other thing. you have worked in the government.
you have worked on prosecutions. tell me about the use of false statements and how it applies here in this case and how maybe it didn't apply to hillary clinton and her team. >> well, i think that's a real interesting dynamic here. 1001, is the section that's charged for false statements to law enforcement. and in the oig report, dealing with the hillary clinton email probe, they specifically talk about how they knew witnesses were lying but james comey himself specifically said we are not going to waste our time doing these 1001s. we will either get a lead target or we are not. somehow that's completely reversed here. in the case we are talking about now trump probe 1001s are being given out bike pez dispensers there is a whole slew of them. i think it's an unusual use of discretion for them to swear it off in one high profile public corruption investigation but to use it quite freely in the other one. >> dana: it is curious indeed. james, thank you. >> sure, thanks, dana.
>> dana: as entrepreneurship signs an executive order to reimpose sanctions on iran tonight, after the trump administration withdrew from the 2015 nuclear deal. ambassador john bolton says this action had to be taken. >> and indication of how strongly we feel that the iranian nuclear weapons program, its ballistic missile program, its support for terrorism, its belligerent activity in the middle east have to stop. >> dana: joining me now is rich edson at the state department. rich, we are now hearing from iran's president hughes san rouhani. what did he have to say? >> we are, dana. the iranian president is essentially responding to president trump's offer to have a meeting, rouhani believes the president's offer is insincere. it's simply a made-for-television moment. he thinks it's an attempt to divide the iranian people. this is on the same days the administration is announcing that it will move forward to essentially undo the iran nuclear deal from the u.s. perspective. the sanctions that the united states lifted arrests
part of the iran nuclear deal, many of them will go back into effect at midnight tonight. these are measures that target iran's dealing in u.s. dollars. iran's currency abroad. its business in precious metals, aluminum and steel, coal and iran's auto sector. that's only phase one. in less than three months the administration will reimpose even more sanctions that the u.s. imposed as part of this deal. that hits iran's central bank and i'm production. the protests in iran, slowing economy and dramatic fall in iran's currency value shows even the threat of these sanctions is already hitting iran. senior officials are trying to cut off iran's funding of militias operating around the middle east and other international interventions and convince its leadership to change its behavior, dana. >> dana: tell me about the europeans. i understand they oppose these new sanctions? >> they do along with iran, china and russia. all these other country thras are trying to hold the
iran nuclear agreement together. germany, britain and france put out a statement earlier today saying quote we're determined to protect european economic operators engaged in legitimate business with iran. the preservation and maintenance of effective channels with iran and continuation of iran's export of oil and gas. on these as other topics, our work continues including with third countries interested in supporting the jcpoa and maintaining economic relations with iran. >> the journal is now reporting citing u.s. officials that germany is moving forward with a proposal that would essentially block a 300 billion euro transfer of money out of a bank in germany. that's something that the u.s. certainly would want to sees a the united states is lobbying germany and other countries to cut off ties, business ties with iran, dana. >> dana: all right. rich edson, thanks so much. an attempt on the life of venezuela's president. how he was targeted and who he is blaming. plus, an enormous fireball ripped through a major freeway in italy. hear what led to this deadly
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were injured. new concerns about voting in georgia after emails show election officials were aware of weaknesses in the system before the 2016 election. the man in charge, secretary of state brian kemp now running for governor facing criticisms about the state's vermont to hackers as we get closer to the mid terms. i'm joined by marianne march former advisor to secretary of state john kerry. so, the emails showed they knew they had problems back in 2016. now going forward, the state attorney general or the secretary of state brian kemp, so he is in charge. but he is also running for governor. he has set up a state level commission for 2020. is that good enough for democrats? >> shouldn't be good enough for any citizen of georgia want to make sure when they vote the vote is accurately. it shouldn't be left to one secretary of state who is warned of the problems did nothing to fix them in 2016.
doing nothing to fix it today and doing nothing to prevent it in november of this year when everybody goes to the polls. this is also a national security issue. so, we need the full force of the federal government to come in and help all these states from being hacked by republicans. now, you may have thought from that press conference last week that federal governments on the watch. >> dana: looked like it? >> it looked like it. but none of them are working together. they are each doing their own thing. no one is? charge. the person who should be in charge is john bolton who is not leading the effort. now you have a system overlook things and bad for everybody. >> dana: he inherited iting inht going back further in 2016 the trump people weren't in charge and you didn't see that show of force at the white house with all of the officials saying we are on top of. this that's right. and a big mistake by the barack obama and by then president obama. they did try to warn people. ended up on the day emphasis access holiday tape. they did not make doo enough to make sure that the election in 2016 was fair and counted fairly. the russians stopped from
hacking it that is something this have to own for years to come that no excuse for the trump administration to do better than they are today. >> dana: several states only have electronic only systems. if there is a concern you can't go back as georgia, delaware, louisiana, new jersey and south carolina. partial voting includes pennsylvania, texas, kansas, florida, tennessee, arkansas, indiana, kentucky and mississippi. that's a lot of places that need help. they were given congress approved $380 million for states. not all of this money has been used. not all has been -- and they are not using it uniformly either is that a problem? >> that is a problem. bigger problem is republicans in congress last week zero funded it there was supposed to be another $250 million. $380 million is woefully short what we need to do to make sure that the november 6th election is fair and russians don't hack them. remember they were here in 2016. they have not left. they are now hacking more than our election system. >> dana: they did say that from the white house just last week. >> but, again, this is not a coordinated effort. it shouldn't be left to the
states. it's a national security issue. >> dana: if i can switch gears on one thing. because, big picture, democratic politics, i wanted to ask you about, you know, remember, it's the economy, stupid? >> um-huh. >> dana: i think that bears out. but robert samuelson columnist at "the washington post" wrote today economic anxiety is increasinglily economic affliction. no one can increase it poor worries about staying poor. no one can escape i join the crowd own well-being being judged how well their children are doing. i wonder if it's the financial anxiety, stupid, might be a more apt description and do you think that anyone in the 2020 democratic field is thinking about this and able to sort of tap into that anxiety and address it. >> it's a great question, dana. i think they all are. especially when you see people appear at net roots last week very progressive group where a lot of potential 2020 candidates and took different cuts at that but the fact is when you look at life, and upward
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china market even though they agree. >> dana: thank you, william for that report. >> this is a small subset of individuals who think they can play by their own rules because they continue to get a slap on the wrist when we arrest them. >> dana: wave of gun violence in chicago this weekend. more than 10 people losing their lives. we'll have the details. political analysts closely watching a special election in ohio tomorrow. the house seat is up for grabs in a traditionally republican district. president trump stumping for troy balderson on saturday. >> if you want to have a border, if you want to stop the radical pelosi and waters, maxine agenda, there is only one choice in this election, that's vote for troy baldz. bald derson.
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getting so much attention? >> dana, this is the last special election before the midterm. shaping up to be virginia tight race in what should be a solidly red district. the current congressman who won the seat a republican won it by 37 points. romney won 'by 10 points. president trump won it by 11 points. the last time a democrat won this seat was way back in 1980. if the republican candidate, troy balderson loses it would be a very big deal it could also spell potentially big trouble for republicans heading into the mid terms. that's why we have seen parade of top republicans flooding in the district. the vice president came here twice. house speaker paul ryan. the state's governor john kasich and state's senior senator they have all come here. over the weekend, of course, we saw president trump come here and personally campaign on troy balderson's behalf. and president trump knows that this race is going to be all about turnout. he really tried to energize
his supporters and get them to vote on tuesday. >> a vote for troy's opponent is a vote for open borders which equals massive crime. they don't care about it they don't care about the crime. they don't care about the military and they don't care about your vets. >> his opponent is democrat danny o'connor a 31-year-old. he has been running on a very centrist platform. he has been very careful not to criticize president trump too much. it's very clear that he is trying to win over those republicans who have become very unhappy with president trump and his policies, dana. >> dana: kristin, i understand the governor of ohio has expressed concern that trump support could do more harm than good in this district. how does the candidate feel about that? >> if he agrees with the governor he is certainly not saying that i asked him that very question yesterday. he told me that he has no concerns whatsoever about president trump stumping on
his behalf. but i also asked him, you know, are there any policies any of the president's policies you disagree with. he cited the president's policy of separating families at the border and he also potentially cited tariffs. listen here. >> ag in this district is very important and agriculture is the number one industry here in the state of ohio. so i'm watching tariffs and what impact they could have. but that's -- i have a farming background. >> so, dana, this is going to be a true fight to the finish. one month ago, the monmouth university poll that everybody has been watching here it, gave balderson a 10 point lead. now that lead has shrunk to just 1 point. this is going to be very tight. both candidates working very hard all the way until election day which is just hours away now. >> dana: they better sprint to the finish. all right, kristin, thank you. for more on, this bring in our political panel, ty worked on the obama re-election campaign. also the democratic
congressional campaign committee's executive director for 2016. than hayworth is a former new york congresswoman and women independent forum board of directors highly qualified, of course. i saw today these headlines about this race any special election is like the most important thing. it's the biggest thing, it's going to be the bellwether but ty, why is this race so close now. >> you are seeing a backlash to trump americans fundamentally want a partisan government. it's getting closer and closer. energy on the democratic sighted and maybe not as much on the republican side and that's what breaking news out the fact that there is actually more republicans in the district. >> dana: dolls it have anything to do with the get out the vote campaigns? i'm curious about religion sterling of new voters. >> a lot of it is we have seen a surge in people registering for the first time to vote since donald trump was elected. a lot of that is backlash. but a lot of that is his supporters. this is what republicans are doing. that's why pence is there,
portman, kasich trump himself they need republicans to turn out or else there is not bodies to offset the democratic enthusiasm. >> dana: republicans have been willing to spend on this race. record amount of money a lot of fire power. there is theory that republicans are going to possibly lose this race only to win it and say actually president trump is more popular than you thought. >> yes, it's important to set expectations properly. one interesting observation, you know, there are and thai has pointed out. booming economy. almost to the point where folks are starting to take that for granted. republicans may be becoming complacent maybe we can adjust on other things. i watched troy balderson. the candidate can make a difference. i'm sure sea fine, fine man. but is he reading his speech at this great trump rally. he may not be quite as energetic and charismatic as
his young opponent who actually has reversed himself on supporting nancy pelosi. he actually said he would. >> dana: that's an interesting thing. it works in some places, will it work here? >> we will find out tomorrow. if it doesn't, then the republicans have now thrown out two playbooks. first playbook we are going to run positive on the tax cuts. they haven't spoken hardly one word about the tax cuts in ohio 12. then they are in the special and then they said we are going to run against pelosi. that's what they're trying now. if that doesn't work again, it didn't work in p.a. 17. they blamed rick saccone. if it doesn't work here they have 89 days to figure out a new playbook. >> dana: whoever wins, these two in this race tomorrow, do these same two people run again in november. >> yes. >> three months from now? >> yes. >> how much money might that cost? >> well, go ahead. >> i was going to say republicans will be right in there. you know that. >> to be honest, in the general, this probably
doesn't get much attention. like you said, this is much bigger than any one election. in november, it's one of 100. right now this is going to set the narrative. this is going to dictate fundraising. -- >> dana: can we talk about this race corey bush. 41-year-old pastor and single mother. she is challenging lacy clay in missouri's first district. running on progressive platform. medicare for all. abolishing ice. $15 minimum wage. she says she does not call herself a dlis. if elected first black congresswoman. what kind of recruiting has the dccc done here for a district like this and does she virginia chance of winning it. >> my guess is the dccc ♪ involved here. this is a very safe democratic seat. and we don't typically get involved in primaries, but, look, congressman clay has to figure out what every person when their name is on the ballot is how do i relate to my voters and where is the energy of my voters?
maybe they don't agree on everything, but they have got to figure that out. like that is the price of admission if you want to put your name on the ballot. >> does he need to fear an alexandria ocasio-cortez-joe crowley situation as in new york alexandria ocasio-cortez has been there to campaign for bush. >> dana: if danny o'connor pulls this out tomorrow what will the message be from the democrats? i have already said the republicanrepublicanslowered ex. have the democrats raised expectations too high or do you think they are just right? >> i think they are about right. the democrats' financial commitment has been about right. it's a hard thing because it is. what the democrats have been say something look, there are 60 more competitive districts. so for some reason danny o'connor does win, the talking point going forward will be look at our path now 22 seats to the majority. >> dana: nan one thing i did want to ask you is john kasich says i don't know if
it's going to help for president trump to come into this district. president trump number one needs to be visible in ohio. important state for him. he needs to turn out his base to vote for balderson. >> absolutely. >> does he run the risk of turning off some of these independents or energizing the democratic base? it's a real delegate balance. >> you are right. it's all in the president's hands. the president has proven to be a gifted campaigner in so many ways. i think if he merely could adjust his message just a intoit that he emphasizes, as ty has also said the economic accomplishments and the essential nature of the fact we are building on deregulation and fax cuts. that what troy balderson is going to bring for ohio 12 that danny o'connor as charming as he may be will not. and we need that every american needs it every demographic needs that i think the president needs to emphasize that great all encompassing all empowering message. >> dana: i will give you the last word do you want donald trump to campaign or not.
>> he is the most ubiquitous figure in our lifetime. republicans for good or bad will have to figure out how to deal with it. >> dana: we will keep paying attention. that's what we do. we love having you. thank you. >> thank you, dana. >> dana: senator ted cruz now warning republican voters to take the threat from his democratic challenger o'rourke seriously. the race is far too close to call for comfort. polls show the gap between cruz and o'rourke. the quinnipiac poll had cruz leading from 6% down from 11% lead in may. fox news alert on a deadly wave of gun violence in chicago. 11 people killed and 70 others were rounded just this past weekend. the mayor and police superintendent held a news conference earlier. >> as long as we fail to hold repeat gun offenders accountable for their actions, would he see are going to keep having these discussions on monday morning that's just the truth of it. >> there are too many guns
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means with rick gates and what it could mean for the president's former campaign chairman paul manafort. and what that witness may tell in court. plus, did donald trump jr. and the first son-in-law jared kushner commit a crime? we'll go through the presidential admission and the law. that's want to hour on shepard smith reporting. we'll see you then. ♪ >> dana: fox news alert. rick gates about to take the stand at the manafort trial. is he expected to be the government's star witness. let's go back to the courthouse in alexandria a virginia. peter doocy. >> one of the members of the fox news team spotted rick gates in the lobby of the courtroom a little while ago. as you look at the footage of him he has a big beard. but our producer, gomez who is inside says that rick gates was clean-shaven eanged was being taken in with two attorneys, one of
the attorneys was patting him on the back while they were in their way to an elevator. remember, last week the prosecution raised the possibility, the mueller team raised the possibility that rick gates might not testify, that they might not need him and they have a list with 21 more potential witnesses that they could call on. we weren't sure how many they would get through and how many they would take to the stand before they got to the person considered to be their star. rick gates, but now we know that after the prosecution started their case by laying out paul manafort's luxury lifestyle, things they were essentially saying that he spent a lot of money on so that he could have a very lavish life while they allege he was not paying taxes and they got into tricks that they alleged that he made, paul manafort with rick gates' help according to the way that the mueller team tells the story. now they will get the inside scoop from rick gates who was paul manafort's right-hand man in business at a consulting firm and
also at the trump campaign when paul manafort was the chairman for a couple of months. rick gates is throw the defense team argues not a credible witness because they want the jury to know that he is somebody they say was embezzling from man for the rick gates had his hand in the cookie jar. so, keep in mind and it's not clear how much the jury find out. rick gates has pled guilty to the lying to the fbi. that's what initially led to him flipping and cooperating and taking the stand today. this is a huge development. the biggest so far in the manafort case and we know they are still on one of the accountants testifying now. rick gates is going to be next. dana? >> dana: thank you. >> dana: supporters of president nicholas madeira are holding an rally
assassination attempt on the nation's ruler.
madeira regime. >> dana: joining me now is o'grady opinion columnist at the "wall street journal." you have your finger on the pulse of this region. what do you think happened on saturday. >> i think it's very hard to say because it certainly would be in the interest of the government to have a fake coup attempt. it allows them, as people have observed, to crack down on anybody that's a possible dissident. it wouldn't be unusual for somebody with a crazy idea to go and do something like that because, you know, at this point in venezuela, i mean, if you want to take madeira out, have you got to get in line. he is just really really unpopular. remember that there was a rogue policeman who flew a helicopter, that guy has since been killed. you know, there are a lot of people with sort of desperate attempts to make some kind of a regime change. so i wouldn't be surprised. >> dana: is it because the country that the people are in such dire straits. >> it's just terrible. you can see that from the migration and you see -- you
can see film footage of people walking across the bridge from colombia. and they are carrying suitcases. it's really sad. that's their only belongings they are basically leaving with the shirt off their back. >> dana: how is that acceptance of the colombians there in that border region? >> i think colombia has tried to be a good neighbor and understand that these people are desperate and so forth. but, you know, when you have such a large number of people coming at the same time in a big wave like that, it does put a lot of stress on public services and the economy and so forth. so, but the colombian president has been critical of the human rights violations and that's one reason why madeira named him as possibly behind the attacks. >> dana: tell me a little bit about cuba's involvement here in venezuela. running total. >> cuba is running venezuela and has been for a long time chavez went to fidel castro. he got basically the
infrastructure and the apparatus to come to venezuela and infiltrate into the government, into the military, so that they are basically, their intelligence group. they spy on people. and that's one way that they ensure that any plots that are developing inside the military are, you know, quickly put to rest. >> dana: bernard, let me get his name bernard hudson the former director of counter terrorism at the cia. he had there to say today i thought it was interesting after this happened. not only can preprogrammed drones swoop in from almost any direction but used by anyone with the means to buy them. worse, threats from the sky used to be exclusively the domain of the nation state. that has changed in the past two weeks. now a far broader and more allusive menace has emerged and must be addressed. and this is just the overall issue of possible rogue actors having the ability to use a drone to carry out an assassination attempt on a leader. >> that's why i don't put to
rest the idea that somebody could have done this who was actually really wanted to do some damage to the president. because i think that the technology is such now that, you know, drones and other kinds of flying from still a
process it has to be ratified and basically out of time to do that in this congress. if the republicans. one ever the consequences of that? >> we don't know because we don't know what the deal is going to be. you know, we know that president trump has wanted a less liberal deal. i mean, that in the classical sense of the word liberal. less free deal. and so, they might come up with something that is less free, that the democrats sign on, to perhaps. but that's not going to be good for the competitiveness of north america. >> dana: interesting. mary o'grady, thanks for being here. >> thanks. >> dana: a close call with a chicken nugget. how two police officers were able to save the life of a little girl. ♪ ♪ all you can eat riblets and tenders at applebee's. now that's eatin' good in the neighborhood. we really pride ourselves on making it easy for you >> tech: at safelite autoglass, to get your windshield fixed. with safelite, you can see exactly when we'll be there.
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Dana-perinoLotGatesJuryDocumentsFudgePaul-manafortOneInformationAccountantsTax-billCindy-laporta-damaging-testimony plants and meatpacking plants. these aren't the most powerful people and where do they turn? you have a right-wing house of representatives and a very right-wing supreme court. >> exactly and i think this is why so many people feel powerless and ironically some are feeling so powerless that they turn to somebody who looks like a strong man. >> wright, with a golden toilet. >> who was actually at this moment giving big tax breaks and promising more tax breaks to the biggest corporations. >> people need to know that the most important thing to remember is the massive trump tax cut will expire next year. he is not for the regular person. robert reich, thank you so much. that is tonight's "reidout". "all in with chris hayes" starts now. tonight on "all in" -- a hero's welcome on capitol hill for the architect of the insurrection. >> we are 100% unified behind his candidacy. >> a lot of support. >> the best speech i've ever heard. >> we are incredibly unified in working with president trump to get him elected. >> tonight, how congressional republicans became accomplices to the criminal ex-president. >> this is an outstanding group of people. i'm with them 1000%. they are with me 1000%. >> as trump pressures the speaker of the house to overturn his felony conviction. then, new reporting on undisclosed luxury gifts to clarence thomas. and why today's supreme court ruling on abortion pills is just the beginning of the battle, when "all in" starts right now. good evening from new york, i am chris hayes. a lot has happened on capitol hill since the last time donald trump was there. there was the deadly insurrection he incited. there was the biden inauguration he skipped. there was the record-setting second impeachment he faced and there was a time in the immediate aftermath of all of that, late january, february, march, it seemed he may never be welcome back. but we know how that turned out. today the former president and his 34 felony convictions tracked to capitol hill at the invitation of house and senate republicans where he was received like a different dawn. a crime don. seeking not supporters but accomplices and co-conspirators. >> they are using us as a bad example of democracy and they are getting away with murder and we are not going to let it happen. you are all elected or you are going to be elected again and reelected. i'm with everyone of you and i will be with you always. this is an outstanding group of people. i'm with them 1000%. we agree just about everything and if there isn't we work it out. >> the term kiss the ring has been used so often with trumpet has virtually lost all meaning, but it really was on display in washington today. everything about this appearance was meant to convey the idea of republican party unity and they all performed it strenuously. that unity essentially remaking the party of lincoln into a mafia type operation with him at the top. a man convicted in a conspiracy to pay off former paramore is because he feared their stories would complicate his campaign. a man found liable for sexual assault of exactly the kind he brags about. a man who surrounds himself with lackeys who have been convicted or charged of serious crimes. steve bannon, michael flynn. trump has pardoned or commuted the sentences of many of those men. of course they never snitched. because trump envisions interactions with people in these sort of organized crime transaction terms. you do for me and if i am in a good mood and i am happy with your performance, you will get a cut. the republican party signed up to be part of this. that was on display today with discussions behind closed doors. as sources told reporter jake sherman, trump singled out house republicans who voted to impeach him saying that out of the 10 that impeached only one is left. sherman pointed out that was wrong, there are actually two left, but this was trump basically doing his impression of al capone in the untouchables, pointing out all the people in his gang that flipped on him. a sort of snitches get stitches, stay on my good side message to the foot soldiers. if you think that pressure does not work, look at the outgoing majority leader mitch mcconnell. remember what he said about trump in the aftermath of the insurrection? >> there is no question, none, the president trump is practically and morally responsible for promoting the events of the day. no question about it. this was an intensifying crescendo of conspiracy theories orchestrated by an outgoing president who seemed determined to either overturn the voters decision or else torch our institutions on the way out. >> and yet here was mcconnell today. the old man, supplicant, submissive, bending over to kiss the ring. getting a breezy endorsement of trump's capitol hill pilgrimage. >> reporter: senator how was it seeing the former president? >> we had a good meeting. we shook hands a few times. he took questions from the audience and it was an entirely positive session. >> great work, mitch. despite all that plenty of those lawmakers were feckless enough to drip out details of trump's backroom talk to sherman and other reporters because you can never underestimate just how cowardly they are. for instance when trump told republicans today that milwaukee, where we are having our convention, is a horrible city. another source told reporters trump was rambling to the crowd. said it was like, and i quote, talking to her drunk uncle at the family reunion. of course in public those sources will get in line and kiss the ring and give the don whatever he wants. maybe you think this is all being too literal. hyperbolic with the metaphors. crime bosses. surely he does not embrace actual criminal gangs and racketeering and violence as a campaign feature. but this is now part of his campaign. listen closely to this because i still can't get over this. it flew almost completely beneath the radar on the mainstream media. i will include us with this, with the exception of the associated press and a few others. but it was on display at his campaign rally last month in the bronx when he shared the stage with a few supportive guests. >> where is -- where is he? come on up, fellas. >> always going to whisper your accomplishments and shout your failures. trump will shout to the winds for all of us. >> make america great again. >> okay so trump is doing a rally in the bronx. to trump those rappers are powerful allies. they are also criminal defendants in a sweeping gang case where prosecutors say they gave material support to a gang during a violent street war with another gang. >> brooklyn district attorney gonzalez says gang members used more than 30 guns to threaten or eliminate their rivals. in total gonzalez says there was one murder, for attempted murders and 12 nonfatal shootings. >> what we allege and learned during the course of this investigation was that he used a lot of the money that he earned to help facilitate further gang activity. he encouraged gang members to participate in violent crimes. >> sheff g, who is the rapper on stage with donald trump that he invited up there. prosecutors allege that he threw a party to celebrate a drive-by shooting in october, 2020, in which one alleged gang member was killed and five others were injured. murder. again, alleged. innocent until proven guilty in our system, but did you hear all of that? imagine what the new york post would have done with this headline if those gentlemen had shown up at a rally for aoc or if president joe biden introduced to them -- introduced them on stage. but the fact of the matter is that conservatives have a criminal as their preferred nominee and he is embracing a criminal model for the enterprise that is now the republican party. michelle goldberg is an opinion columnist for the new york times. tara, let me start with that. those two individuals on that stage. again, i can't believe it happened and these are not, you know, there are all kinds of ways people have been accused of crime. the system can be unfair, but they are accused of being part of a gang that has killed and shocked and maimed people and they are on stage with donald trump and i don't think it is an accident because i think this is kind of the vibe of the campaign. >> yeah, i talked about this right after the rally, i think on this network, as a matter of fact. pointing out how despicable this was and how this is seemingly okay now in the law and order republican party. it is such an affront to so many things and it is an insult to the american people that we are supposed to sit here and think this is normal. donald trump is a convicted felon. republicans are welcoming him to capitol hill with a hero's welcome. back to the scene of the crime where mitch mcconnell calls him practically responsible for an insurrection. pal around with accused murderers. this is all normal. it's just fine. it's not. it's not. he gets very frustrating sometimes when there seems to be a moral equivalence made between trump and biden and the way the campaigns are covered. like donald trump did what he did today. he is having these rallies where he is going on random rants about sharks and boats and electrocution. he is palling around on stage with guys who are also alleged criminals. meanwhile president biden is overseas representing the united states with honor and dignity of the g-7 and just entered a security deal with ukraine trying to maintain democracy in europe. there is no moral equivalence. your point about how this slipped under the radar and seems par for the course for donald trump, unfortunately this is who he is. he thinks this is okay and by the way for any black folks who think donald trump is on your side, this is what he thinks of you. black people will like me because i hang around with criminals and they were flashy chains and gold sneakers. it is such an affront, honestly, but this is who donald trump is. >> michelle, one of the thing that happens and again i use the mafia metaphor, because the unity is so intense. of course behind-the-scenes you have like talking to your drunk uncle. he was rambling. everyone goes and tells reporters and there is this distance. the unbelievable applause and then everyone going to tell the reporter that he was really nuts behind closed doors. >> right, it kind of brings back memories of 2016 to 2020, where you constantly had republicans in these really degrading displays of fealty and then they would go and try to distance themselves from it when no one was looking. maybe because they think it is all a game and we see how far it goes over and over again. i think after the mafia element, it is not just these two rappers. the trim campaign is leaning hard into mafia metaphors. you have seen the godfather t- shirts and merchandise with godfather iconography. donald trump has compared himself favorably to al capone. recently breitbart ran an interview with peter navarro, former trump official and probably future trump official if trump is reelected. currently in prison in miami. he gave this jailhouse interview boasting about how he gets treated really well because the guards and the inmates love donald trump. sort of how a made demand would be treated if he goes to prison and is still able to slice the garlic really thin. i think what is important is it is not just hypocrisy. not just a defiance of law and order. it is a different model of governance that a lot of republicans have embraced. a hierarchy based on personal relationships that they see as an alternative to technocratic liberalism. >> yes, mafia state as an aspirational model. and then i never know what's worse, like the people who are pretending or the people who are true believers. i think i know which category marjorie taylor greene is, but let me just play her reaction to seeing donald trump today. >> i really found his speech to be one of my favorite speeches. he came in, talked to the conference. he was very honest. he was funny. he was joking around constantly with everyone. he was really sweet to me. he said to speaker johnson, okay, you've got one more seat. you need to be tougher. i was sitting back a little ways. he saw me and he was like hello. he is always so sweet and recognizes me and said are you being nice? he was joking and said are you being nice to speaker johnson? he said okay, be nice to him and i nodded my head. >> the thing about this is, yes, there is always a duality here. he knows what he is doing and the transactional politics are real and they have all sort of bought into it. it is successful because they are willing to get on board for what it will mean for them. >> yes of course and to answer your question who is worse, the true believers or the enablers, it is the enablers 100%. the true believers, you can excuse it away that they are so far into it that it is not rational for them. the enablers are the ones who know better and are in a position to say no or to say stop, when no one else will. which is what conservatives were supposed to be doing according to bill buckley, the godfather of modern conservative history. they did not do that. they made a decision that this would be a transactional, politically expedient decision to suck up to donald trump who is a direct and immediate existential threat to our democracy. he wants a club talker see and they are okay with that as long as they get their piece of the pie, but no one is safe under donald trump. he will come for them, too. then we as a country and a democracy have to pay the price. that is why he has to be stopped. >> go ask mike pence who narrowly avoided -- >> correct. >> getting grabbed by a mob calling for him to be hanged. this is j.d. vance, speaking of people auditioning, to be the next person who may be facing that situation. no real republican with any credibility in the party is still blaming trump for january 6. i think it is a good thing. the republican party is in a good place. i think today was kind of like the button on the january 6 was bad era of the republican party. to whatever extent it was there, today was the definitive marking of the end. >> right and it has been coming for a while. this is obviously a candidate running extensively on january 6 rioters were heroes and warriors and i'm going to pardon the mall. the party has embraced him and embraced that message. j.d. vance is right. there are not very many republicans, if any, who have credibility in their party who will say what mitch mcconnell said after january 6 and what i think most of them know in their hearts to be true. >> michelle goldberg, tara setmayer, thank you both. 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spent the day whipping a bill that would allow presidents charged at the state level to move cases to the federal court. she is a contributing writer at the atlantic where she wrote about trump's absolute disdain for democracy and joins me now. when i saw this i thought that is nutty and not the way any of this works, but that has not stopped things before. i thought that about the mifepristone suit and look how far that god. so it does seem like they are on board, the house republican caucus, on trying to come up with some way of bailing him out. >> the house republican caucus may be on board, but i don't think that means whatever they are planning will work. if this bill went through i think there would be serious challenges probably made on realism. congress can't just miss around with state courts however it likes and of course he has already been convicted. his options at this point are really appealing through the new york state court system and then the supreme court. there are a handful of legal arguments that he could make on the grounds of federal law, but that will take a very long time and it certainly won't be done before the election. >> the reporting around the sort of scotus hail mary and this is the daily beast saying that most request for emergency action go to the justice assigned to a particular circuit. in this case it is sotomayor, who has ruled against trump in a most every case before her. the rulebook says the petitioner may renew the application to any other justice of his or her choice and theoretically continue until the majority has denied the application, which means he could keep on the slot machine until the right justice pops up. i'm with you again that that seems implausible even by the degree of standards of this supreme court, but that might be true now. all that stands between us and the unthinkable are are those people in power at the high levels going to do the right thing or do something transparently crazy? >> i do think this is a case for the courts. institutional equities are important to understand. it is also worth noting, the idea that he could ping-pong from justice to justice, that is not how the court tends to do things now. what they usually do is yes the emergency application will go to justice sotomayor and then instead of going to another justice it would go to the full court as a matter of practice and i think it is safe to say they would almost certainly turn it down. this is an extremely conservative court. it is a hard right court, but it is not really a maga court. there have been issues where trump's issues align with those of the conservative justices and uc benefits for him there, but it is really hard for me to see how he could even get to for justices who would be interested in taking on this case right off the bat. he really would be stretching. >> i totally agree and i think one of the things you see is mitch mcconnell had this sort of speech after january 6 that was basically like 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owns a high-end jet that can cost over $10,000 per flight hour to charter according to charter company estimates and thomas has repeatedly flown to a destination and back again on the same day. in a statement thomas's lawyer said the trips fell under the personal hospitality exemption and was not required to be asked closed -- to be disclosed. the reporter who broke the story about many of the undisclosed gifts, he and his rest of his team won a pulitzer for the reporting last year and joins me now. congratulations, by the way. three more trips. what have we learned? >> the thing that is so striking is the scale of it. we are looking at a picture where harlan crow's private jet, a particularly nice private jet was at the disposal of justice thomas and there are multiple incidents where, for example, flying from washington, d.c. to san jose, california, staying for a few hours and turning around and going back on the same day. that's happened repeatedly. and going from where the jet is based in dallas to d.c. to pick up the justice. it adds to a long list and the picture is a billionaire political donor in a real way subsidizing the life of a justice. >> they don't make clear the purpose of the trips that included trip from st. louis to montana. location of glacier park international airport. he was scheduled to be in st. louis for a speech. in one instance he flew from the east coast to san jose and returned home later that day. another he took a round-trip flight from washington, d.c. to savannah, georgia. this is how taylor swift or elon musk, that is how they get around. >> right, the round-trip alone, seemingly for some kind of lunch, we don't know what it was for, still, that could easily cost $100,000 for the flight. probably double the median income that an american makes in a year. it is an extraordinary amount of money. >> a $100,000 flight. >> yeah and last week justin thomas amended some prior years disclosure forms to disclose other things harlan crow has paid for. hotels and lodging and vacations. a trip to california. that is the third time he's done that. >> to be clear, these three no one knew about and no one reported. >> these were totally new to us. >> you had no idea? >> i had no idea. >> this is it, right? this has to be it. i think we have an absolute, definitive account. >> look, some of the reporting we did took myself and coworkers months of reporting to piece together these trips that justice thomas and justice alito also got. we don't have subpoena power. the senate judiciary committee does. they said today there would be a full report coming out this summer, so i would not be surprised if there are more revelations. >> they subpoenaed leonard leo as well, who basically told them to go -- >> pound sand. >> pound sand, thank you for stopping me from saying what i was going to say. harlan crow, he is cooperating. they are getting this from harlan crow. >> right. they authorized a subpoena. didn't actually issue attended became leverage in negotiations with lawyers and they came up with this deal where he is giving information about the past seven years. potentially not just travel. we will find out when the full investigation comes out this summer. >> we have to update our bar chart. it is a tough one to read. let's see, which one is thomas? right, there he is on the left. we might need to raise up that bar after we price these ones in. maybe this summer we will get more. can i get your response since i have you here about something justice alito said about your reporting. this is something that he said recently. surreptitiously recorded. take a listen. >> there are groups that are very well-funded by ideological groups that have spearheaded these attacks. that's what it is, you know. >> like who? >> propublica. propublica gets a lot of money and they have spent a fortune investigating clarence thomas for example. >> have you spent a fortune or are these ideological attacks? >> it was frankly disturbing to hear this because it was speculation based on no evidence. as one of the two or three reporters who did this work i tell you how it started, which was not a report on justice thomas and alito. we will report on how supreme court justices are spending their time when they are not at the court. it started with a stack of documents of travel records with no names and we pieced together that it is justice thomas taking private jets. we took a hard look at democratic appointed justices and simply found nothing equivalent. >> if we could put up that bar chart for a second, it is hard to find the signal for the noise in that chart. it takes a lot of energy to uncover that one on the left. >> right, if somebody out there knows about george soros funding trips, i would love to report it. you can find my contact information on all of our stories. >> thank you. coming up, as the supreme court rejects the attempt to ban the abortion pill, why the right wing is just getting started on 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all abortions in this country, as well as the treatment of miscarriages. it should remain easily accessible, but this case should not have made its way to the supreme court in the first place. it is shocking that it did. the case is based on faulty legal logic and was first introduced by a conservative group in amarillo, texas. incorporated there so they could file the case and ensure it would land before a hard right activist appointed to the bench by donald trump. predictably the pan -- plan worked. issued a nationwide injunction. the decision was mostly upheld by the court of appeals. that court of appeals is arguably the most radically right wing pro trump court in the land. the supreme court threw it out today because plaintiffs lacked standing and the entire ruse was too ridiculous even for this court. make no mistake, republicans may have lost this battle, but they are still fighting the war. it is all but certain that they will bring a similar suit again and will absolutely do so given the opportunity. they don't want to stop there. today senate republicans blocked a bill enshrining protections for ivf only a day after the southern baptist convention, the largest protestant this domination days protestant denomination in the country voted to condemn the procedure. the republican party and grassroots of the party truly believe in this. they are not going to stop there crow seed against -- stop there crusade against reproductive rights. joining me now is nbc legal correspondent lisa rubin. i guess let's start with the decision today which was not surprising. they kicked it on what are called standing grounds. what does that mean? >> standing is the notion that you have to be a person who has been injured to maintain a lawsuit. it goes back to the concept that the courts can only hear cases or controversies, not imagined grievances. what the court is saying is that the alliance for defending freedom did not have standing to bring their suit and there are a couple of lines. in one place justice kavanaugh says an organization that has not suffered a concrete injury caused by a defendant's action cannot spend its way into's standing by spending money together information and advocate against the defendant, meaning the food and drug administration's action. that is the good part of this. but as you noted, there are little easter eggs sprinkled throughout this decision that are sort of gifts to the antiabortion right. in large part because of one side can't have standing, the other can't either. one of the things this says is that doctors should not presume that they will have standing to advocate for their patients. that usually means something very different for pro-abortion doctors than it does on the anti-choice side. >> that's a great point. i want to read the standing argument the plaintiffs presented, because it is one of my favorites. this is from the initial, i don't think of this is the scotus brief or district court. doctors lose the opportunity to provide professional services and care for the women and child through pregnancy which causes harms to providers who can no longer care for their patients and bring about the successful delivery of a new life. you deprive me of the joy of delivering your baby, which is a tangible harm to me, ergo i have standing. the standing analysis survived the district court and survived the fifth circuit court of appeals. >> it is kind of galling and there is a twist on that argument, too. you deprive me of the ability to care for more deserving patients, the women who want to deliver their children as opposed to women who present in the emergency room having had a complication. >> hypothetically, to be clear. that hypothetically might do so. >> when i am forced to divert my attention from deserving woman a, to take care of you, morally bankrupt woman b. >> you can do this through the courts or through the department of justice if you have the teeth to do it. here is justice samuel alito talking about, he does not say the name, interestingly. he just reads the u.s. section and the solicitor general of the united states does say the name. listen. >> shouldn't the fda at least have considered the application -- >> i think the comstock provisions don't fall within fda's lane. >> the comstock laws, those are passed in the victorian era to outlaw basically all tools for abortion and birth control. >> and really sending them between states. if you want to talk about zombie laws and we have talked about them a lot on your show and others. these are statutes prohibiting abortion or things that allow people to achieve abortion. it was a zombie law and it was understood for many decades that the comstock law had no effect. why? because row was in existence. the biden administration has made clear they don't believe the comstock act needs to be enforced unless the intent is to help somebody accomplish something that would be unlawful and given the mail order prescription of mifepristone is lawful, then the interpretation is there is nothing to be done. a different administration however, you can count on the same sorts of folks to press that heavily with the department of justice. >> and i want to be clear. there are criminal penalties attached to the comstock laws. the department of justice could conceivably on day one start having the fbi arrest people and prosecute people for mailing abortion drugs. >> they may not even have to go that far. i think the lesson is that you can terrorize people into not doing anything just by having a law and having the threat out there that somebody could be criminally prosecuted for doing something. >> the comstock act, this is not a hypothetical. there are lots of folks in right-wing circles writing about and talking about this. lisa rubin, thank you. >> thank you. >> that is "all in" on this thursday night. alex wagner starts now. >> good evening. there are women already terrified making choices about bodily economy. >> certainly. >> fear at all levels of american society. thank you, my friend. today donald trump made his first visit to capitol hill. the first time since his followers ransacked the capital on january 6. to unde
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ran for the hills, so they would not have to say in public how they feel about taking away access to contraception. you better believe that americans should be scared about what republicans want to do, because they are coming after abortion everywhere in this country. they are coming after ivf in this country and they are coming after contraception. not just red states, but nationally. red states, blue states, purple states, everywhere. it is an extremist agenda and america should be alarmed. >> senator elizabeth warren, thank you for joining me and offering your wisdom and perspective. really appreciate your time. >> you bet, thank you. i want to turn now to an opinion columnist for the new york times. thinking for being here. we were talking to senator warren about revenge fantasies and i think part of the reason
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because they're coming after abortion everywhere in this country. they're coming after ivf in this country, and they're coming after contraception not just in red states but nationally, red states, blue states, purple states everywhere. it's an extremist agenda, and america should be alarmed. >> senator elizabeth warren, thank you for joining me this evening and offering your wisdom and perspective on all this. really appreciate your time. >> you bet, thank you. >> i want to turn now to jamelle buoy, an opinion columnist for "the new york times." we were talking to senator warren about these revenge fantasies, and i think part of the reason you've seen such a shocking response from the republican party is because they're legitimately shaken by the 34 felony counts. how do you interpret what is here to for just kind of an unprecedented spoken out loud plot to break the law in a partisan agenda?
CountryEnshrining-contraceptionIvfStatesEverywhereRed-statesAbortionElizabeth-warrenPerspectiveEveningUnited-statesExtremist-agendainitiated under donald trump and basically no one else is being prosecuted for. joe biden has said not one thing. he has not fired the prosecutor. he has not gone after the courts. first lady joe biden is sitting quietly in court and supporting her son as this plays out. this on the day that they are screaming on capitol hill about the weaponized department of justice. take a step back, shall we? can you imagine a universe in which donald trump allows the department of justice to prosecute don junior and keeps mom about it? no, got to let it play out. as republicans have ratcheted up the extreme lengths they would go to to tear down the entire notion of equal justice under the law, joe biden has gone to extraordinary lengths in the opposite direction and there is a real question as to whether any of this is getting through to voters. michelle goldberg is an opinion columnist for the new york
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