that was the network s news side doing it not the opinion side. fox does have reporters who try their best, but the network is defined by its cheerleaders like jesse waters who dined with trump at the white house earlier this year and got an autograph or his co-haas e. host on the five kimberly guilfoyle who is dating donald trump jr. does this affect her day job? how can any of her colleagues criticize trump when the president s son s girlfriend is sitting right there at the table? doesn t this cli kate the entire network s coverage of the trump family? i ve got to ask. speaking of quantity reese. lou dobbs is called into oval office meetings so he can offer his two pents. jeanine pirro has talked to trump about possible jobs, pete hegseth was rumored to be up for the va job. now, they are arguably more valuable to trump right where they are, but trump has poached
up in a situation like this, i have a feeling that there would be a lot of people appalled, a lot of people concerned. what s the attitude over at the fox organization? you know, i think it s split from the people i talk to. obviously the opinion side, such that it is, obviously the network has a point of view, but the sean hannitys, laura ingrahams, those people obviously are happy with this development. the news people, you know, shepard smith and others, i think are more aghast at this. and you saw, i think, a very telling quote in a buzzfeed article this week that was very critical. it was an anonymous fox executive being very critical of shine. so i think there is mixed feelings at fox. for those at fox who are trying to do somewhat of real journalism, this is just further proof that fox is state tv. you have the formered in wo ede former network head now running communications at the white house. was there anything from fox executives that tried to reassert their independence
shelby: the editorial board at the new york times tweeted out the numbers. howie: the opinion side, they can oppose the tax bill all they want. but suggesting call your senator. they take position on everything. but it s a little unseemly. shelby: now the bills have to be reconciled. so it s hard to say how it will end up. howie: there has been a steady drum beat that this doesn t help the middle class which at odds with the administration s argument that it does. shelby: i do think there is an argument that it does help the middle class. but it also helped wealthy americans. so there are a number of
shel shelby: the editorial board at the new york times tweeted out the numbers. howie: the opinion side, they can oppose the tax bill all they want. but suggesting call your senator. they take position on everything. but it s a little unseemly. shelby: now the bills have to be reconciled. so it s hard to say how it will end up. howie: there has been a steady drum beat that this doesn t help the middle class which at odds with the administration s argument that it does. shelby: i do think there is an argument that it does help the middle class. but it also helped wealthy americans.
it is much easier to be with his twitter pals over at fox and friends and with sean hannity and laura ingram and all the people who play this game with him. and i don t they re going to say they re not twitter pals. they hold them accountable from the right. that s what laura ingraham would probably say. she s not done a very good job of holding him accountable lately from the right. i ve been watching. all right, even brett bear said he s trying to get an interview with trump. journalists at fox have been unable to. last word? that s a really important point. the journalists, brett bear and schweppe smith, they have not been able to get the interviews. the opinion side of the network is the one getting all the access to the president because it is about mutual circulation of talking points, not real questions. everybody, stick around. much more right after a quick break here. including something we have come up with trying to talk about the difference between truth and a