claudine gay became, in some, was the poster child of that argument, right? we saw it initially as, they failed to respond appropriately to stefanik's question. suddenly, it -- became >> it was a terrible. hearing >> a terrible hearing. lawyered up, it's obvious that they lost their humanity in the midst of answering those questions, right? in some ways. then it became antisemitism on college campuses is actually a reflection of the fact that the students part woke. they are thinking that israel is a settler colonial state and these are the oppressors. all of this is a result of wokeism. if we could only understand that wokeism is destroying american hired cajun, we would understand the problem way base. we saw literally a concerted effort by the right. then, this black woman, alongside liz mcgill, and the president of i.t., these women
respond appropriately to stefanik's question. suddenly, it -- became >> it was a terrible. hearing >> a terrible hearing. lawyered up, it's obvious that they lost their humanity in the midst of answering those questions, right? in some ways. then it became antisemitism on college campuses is actually a reflection of the fact that the students part woke. they are thinking that israel is a settler colonial state and these are the oppressors. all of this is a result of wokeism. if we could only understand that wokeism is destroying american hired cajun, we would understand the problem way base. we saw literally a concerted effort by the right. then, this black woman, alongside liz mcgill, and the president of i. t., these women became the object of this,
focus is moving away from those three words towards efforts around well-being and in inclusion. does that tell you this is really a rebrand, that they are really moving away from dei? >> right, that has a lot of lipstick on a pig kind of feeling to it, right. like they are going to figure out a way to do this. by the way, if you remember back when the supreme court reversed the affirmative action decision and said you are not allowed to have quotas going into colleges, many university presidents, i believe including claudine gay at harvard herself, said we will figure out other ways to do it. so look, to get social justice, dei, wokeness out of institutions, and out of people's minds, it's very complex because it's become sort of a holistic world view and if you view the world only as oppressed and oppressors then to look at the world in a new way is going to be tough. i would say a lot of organizations will do a little bit on the margins to fix some
students on campus who felt unsafe? >> harris: that's such a critical question. one that we may never know the answer to because as i said, it seems to be well, a side hustle to protect this woman. >> i think that's right. look, i am a harvard graduate. i went to harvard college, harvard law school. what is going on now is outrageous. i think bill ackman is right. the entire harvard corporation needs to go. claudine gay's position at the university needs to be fully examined. to call it something other than plagiarism to me is absurd. and this is an issue ackman himself points it out where dei is used to turn society into oppressors and the oppressed. you know what? that's not a free university where there is freedom of speech.
digging and uncovered this. the antisemitism that tarnishes her tenure at harvard cannot and should not be minimized. there is the oppressor category because they are not on pyramid of adversity and it treats them as if they are always racist and treats them with they actually are treated as oppressors, discriminated against and sidelined in name of propping up other people. it must end starting with harvard. get rid of the dei group and fire pritzger. >> harris: coming up, president
within the higher education space but the corporation space. ist teaches lies the way we ought to view the world as being essentially an ongoing conflict between the oppressed and the oppressors. and this is just the fruit of that in terms of what we're seeing happen on campuses across the country. not just in the ivy leagues but stretching down into state schools and the like. i think this is just the most prominent example, i think, of holding presidents of these entities like we ought to not just to academic rigor but to expect them to follow their own rules and live up to their own code when it comes to treating these types of calls for the genocide of a people as being something that truly amounts to bullying and harassment under their own rules. not just something that is an expression of freedom of speech. >> harris: i want to get to the
you look at the testimony of the presidents of penyou lon harvard and mit, as you mentioned, two down, one to go, president penn has resigned. the president of harvard resigns, the president of mit. he needs resiresign because our universities are so cultural marxism. they divide everyone into dictims and oppressors s and anything is justified on behalf of the victims nto vict against oppressors. he tic that's why they can't stand up to anti-semitism. but it'sgainst t also why they e donald trump because they view him as oppressor. and that's why they ask you this. anything to go afters an him?r >> i'm not so sure that had the plagiarism not followed up to the horrific comment, to the horrific answer that elisele toe stefanik was able to get out thr of these three presidents. i'm sure she'd be gone today. and where i think the issue of her appalling comment on should be should have been
institutions of higher learning. lengthy post on x, he said in part, dei was a political advocacy movement on behalf of certain groups that are deemed oppressed. under dei, one's degree of oppression is determined based on where one resides and so-called intersectional pyramid of oppression, where whites, jews, and asians are deemed oppressors and sub set of color, lgbtq people and women are deemed to be oppressed. do you agree with him, and if so, that would not seem to bode well for jewish students on harvard campus. >> yeah, i think buzz words like dei are imprecise, so you know, i don't know exactly what is encompassed in dei and the ideology, but i think it's true there is a double standard when it comes to antisemitic hate speech at harvard. jews are looked on as the
but if we're right, a lot of them will go to jail. [cheers and applause] so let's have trial by combat. [crowd clamoring] ♪ ♪ - when giuliani appeared alongside donald trump on january 6th, what came to my mind was the riot at city hall. [crowd yelling] - [whistling] - they marched around city hall park in a peaceful and orderly fashion, but then, minutes later, thousands of cops stormed through the barricades and ran on top of cars as they charged the stairs of city hall. [crowd cheering and yelling] ♪ ♪ - people called it at the time the riot of the oppressors. [crowd yelling] a riot of policemen. [crowd yelling] - you have a bunch of off-duty cops. [crowd yelling]